The number of ICN tokens I purchased is still dropping. I assume this is because they are still processing orders. When is this going to stabilize?
like ICONOMI team announced pretty much from the begining of the ICO up to 10 days after ICO ends |
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@ ICONOMI - You need to delete the phrase "ICO OPEN" from the title of this thread.
And with this huge ICO windfall - I hope you expand the goals of ICONOMI far beyond just the "Fund Management Platform" mentioned in the thread title...
they already stated that both funds will be developed and go live already this year. BTW - before the funds reached the 10,000BC limit for platform funding |
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Trading my token in liqui depsoit disabled.
Szachta! How many times do we need to tell you that this scam exchange is trading IOUs and that the real tokens are only being released in 10 days? FFS. Just because of you pissing me off, i won't buy your stupid dinocoin.  or pizzacoin |
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when would be the tokens distributed?  seriously? all telegram, twitter, facebook and WHITEPAPER are not enough? For your sake I hope you haven't invested from your own capital, but you are just waiting for the free bounties Otherwise - do yourself a favor and read something about the project you invest in |
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Hmmm, why is the number of investors still increasing today? Do they get added only after their first payment is received?
FIAT money investors. In the old financial world it takes the banks up to 7 business days to conduct a transaction.. Long live blockchain! |
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This was most likely asked and answered, but there si way to much to read.
So
Since Crowdfunding exceeds 10000 btc the rest will go into ICONOMI Cryptocurrencies Index.
I see i only got ICN. So we will not directly get ICNX, but ICN will have a share in ICNX?
On the excess above 10000 BTC which is roughly 7160BTC we kick start the ICNP (performance). How it will work out is relatively simple. The ICONOMI team invest in different Crypto startups (ICOs etc) with the excess 7160BTC capital. When they make a profit we get 100% of the ROI as ICN investors instead of the 20% performance fund fee. So...I understand that, in addition to ICN tokens, ICO investors will also now get weekly dividends from ICNP...but...who actually owns the first 7160 BTC worth of ICNP tokens - ICONOMI or the ICO investors? Who has the ability to send one of these initial ICNP tokens to Polo and sell it for a personal profit (and thus forgo any future dividend payments)? good question. Iconomi team will post a separated paper/instruction as for the performance fund - it will be issued to the ICO participants only In my opinion it means that proportional part of the investments from EVERY investor will directly seed the fund - the same will be for profits - each investor will get proportional part of the profits |
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good funds to pump it to 3 dollar slow and steady  we wait what price is going to happen at the beginning of the market  3 dollar? not enough. it is around 5x from ico price. Lisk got there with little to no product/use so far IMO just wait for dividends and see how much u make weekly without any efort or check out the performance fund - i believe with decent management we can get 100% ROI in less than an year without selling a damn ICN token |
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I think around a week after token distribution. Untill then the price will be 5x from ICO price
And I think we see next week x5 on www.Liqui.ioShut the fuck Up with your scam exchange. We do not care. Die You idiot. Die. If you guys wanna put your money/private keys in this scummy russian exchange that fakes traffic - don't cry later!! x5 is not enough for this project - wait for the platform launch and first dividends - then you'll see what a real pump is If lisk did x5 from ico price with nothing real to offer (no offence lisk), what do u think a working platform with active funds and weekly dividends price will be? the all IOU idea is a scam - you are selling hot air. It is up to the users to decide about it - it is just my opinion that putting your money in a small non-regulated exchange that sells you something that has not been issued yet and does not even has a FINAL price - well, trading is a zero sum game, someone has to lose Have you a Link where we can see if the Traffic is Fake? You really should be given RED TRUST. YOu are a SHILL and A SCAMMER PHUCK YOU |
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Hi all i see a lot of posts here from people asking the same questions - when it will be released, what will the price be, etc It makes u look like 12 y/o - just spend the same amount of time writing the posts for reading the whitepaper.. As for price (in my opinion): Iconomi is the first token that offers more than price speculation - u ppl r ignoring the fact that ICN tokens will pay weekly dividends. Not something u get with any other token so far. IMO it would be not wise to sell your tokens before you get a taste of these weekly dividends because: 1. Time to market is extremely short - only few months away. Look at other ICOs roadmap and compare 2. Before u start selling your ICN tokens, spend some time to understand what you have: * It is real equity in a platform that has just raised the biggest amount of crowd funding in Europe * The platform operator has a very solid and proven team that has already launched a successful and regulated fin company in Europe. Escrow and advisory are very solid and well respected * ~25% of the funds collected are FIAT money. This means investors from the non-crypto world. These people are getting 5-8% on their money ANNUALLY. Think about the hype it will make with some average profits from the crypto sector.. 1% monthly profit will make them 50% more, and 1% monthly profit is WAY bellow what any OK crypto-trader makes. * when the 2 funds will be online, ALL fees collected will go to ICN holders (until the operational costs are covered by ICO money) - meaning more dividends to us, meaning more people will join the ride, meaning more fees, and so on * Think about the traffic when the open fund platform will be open. You have a share of everything that is happening on ICONOMI platform - that is the ICN tokens 3. It is not that complicated of a project from dev point of view, and it brings huge money potential. 4. Once Iconomi will get the legal done, a lot of traditional investment money will flow in. 5.Look around u for blockchain progress and imagine how things are gonna look in 8-24 months two examples from non-crypto entities: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tech-blockchain-ibm-idUSKCN11Y28D?_ke=cm9iZXJ0Lm5hY2h1bUBnbWFpbC5jb20%3Dhttp://fortune.com/2016/09/28/blockchain-banks-2017/?_ke=cm9iZXJ0Lm5hY2h1bUBnbWFpbC5jb20%3D6. Visa debit card a lot more, but it is getting too long to make long short - u keep your tokens tight - you get weekly dividends, u don't support the sell pressure - ICN price goes up Excellent and informative post!!  any thoughts on what I wrote? Anyone? Would like to know what u guys and girls think about it |
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I think around a week after token distribution. Untill then the price will be 5x from ICO price
And I think we see next week x5 on www.Liqui.ioShut the fuck Up with your scam exchange. We do not care. Die You idiot. Die. If you guys wanna put your money/private keys in this scummy russian exchange that fakes traffic - don't cry later!! x5 is not enough for this project - wait for the platform launch and first dividends - then you'll see what a real pump is If lisk did x5 from ico price with nothing real to offer (no offence lisk), what do u think a working platform with active funds and weekly dividends price will be? |
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Hi all i see a lot of posts here from people asking the same questions - when it will be released, what will the price be, etc It makes u look like 12 y/o - just spend the same amount of time writing the posts for reading the whitepaper.. As for price (in my opinion): Iconomi is the first token that offers more than price speculation - u ppl r ignoring the fact that ICN tokens will pay weekly dividends. Not something u get with any other token so far. IMO it would be not wise to sell your tokens before you get a taste of these weekly dividends because: 1. Time to market is extremely short - only few months away. Look at other ICOs roadmap and compare 2. Before u start selling your ICN tokens, spend some time to understand what you have: * It is real equity in a platform that has just raised the biggest amount of crowd funding in Europe * The platform operator has a very solid and proven team that has already launched a successful and regulated fin company in Europe. Escrow and advisory are very solid and well respected * ~25% of the funds collected are FIAT money. This means investors from the non-crypto world. These people are getting 5-8% on their money ANNUALLY. Think about the hype it will make with some average profits from the crypto sector.. 1% monthly profit will make them 50% more, and 1% monthly profit is WAY bellow what any OK crypto-trader makes. * when the 2 funds will be online, ALL fees collected will go to ICN holders (until the operational costs are covered by ICO money) - meaning more dividends to us, meaning more people will join the ride, meaning more fees, and so on * Think about the traffic when the open fund platform will be open. You have a share of everything that is happening on ICONOMI platform - that is the ICN tokens 3. It is not that complicated of a project from dev point of view, and it brings huge money potential. 4. Once Iconomi will get the legal done, a lot of traditional investment money will flow in. 5.Look around u for blockchain progress and imagine how things are gonna look in 8-24 months two examples from non-crypto entities: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tech-blockchain-ibm-idUSKCN11Y28D?_ke=cm9iZXJ0Lm5hY2h1bUBnbWFpbC5jb20%3Dhttp://fortune.com/2016/09/28/blockchain-banks-2017/?_ke=cm9iZXJ0Lm5hY2h1bUBnbWFpbC5jb20%3D6. Visa debit card a lot more, but it is getting too long to make long short - u keep your tokens tight - you get weekly dividends, u don't support the sell pressure - ICN price goes up Nice will definitely for more than 8-24 months. dividends is something worth watching every week, i will keep ICN for years and years and may even be kept to secure my old life lol. but before that when will they list ICN on exchanges? I think around a week after token distribution. Untill then the price will be 5x from ICO price |
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Hi all i see a lot of posts here from people asking the same questions - when it will be released, what will the price be, etc It makes u look like 12 y/o - just spend the same amount of time writing the posts for reading the whitepaper.. As for price (in my opinion): Iconomi is the first token that offers more than price speculation - u ppl r ignoring the fact that ICN tokens will pay weekly dividends. Not something u get with any other token so far. IMO it would be not wise to sell your tokens before you get a taste of these weekly dividends because: 1. Time to market is extremely short - only few months away. Look at other ICOs roadmap and compare 2. Before u start selling your ICN tokens, spend some time to understand what you have: * It is real equity in a platform that has just raised the biggest amount of crowd funding in Europe * The platform operator has a very solid and proven team that has already launched a successful and regulated fin company in Europe. Escrow and advisory are very solid and well respected * ~25% of the funds collected are FIAT money. This means investors from the non-crypto world. These people are getting 5-8% on their money ANNUALLY. Think about the hype it will make with some average profits from the crypto sector.. 1% monthly profit will make them 50% more, and 1% monthly profit is WAY bellow what any OK crypto-trader makes. * when the 2 funds will be online, ALL fees collected will go to ICN holders (until the operational costs are covered by ICO money) - meaning more dividends to us, meaning more people will join the ride, meaning more fees, and so on * Think about the traffic when the open fund platform will be open. You have a share of everything that is happening on ICONOMI platform - that is the ICN tokens 3. It is not that complicated of a project from dev point of view, and it brings huge money potential. 4. Once Iconomi will get the legal done, a lot of traditional investment money will flow in. 5.Look around u for blockchain progress and imagine how things are gonna look in 8-24 months two examples from non-crypto entities: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tech-blockchain-ibm-idUSKCN11Y28D?_ke=cm9iZXJ0Lm5hY2h1bUBnbWFpbC5jb20%3Dhttp://fortune.com/2016/09/28/blockchain-banks-2017/?_ke=cm9iZXJ0Lm5hY2h1bUBnbWFpbC5jb20%3D6. Visa debit card a lot more, but it is getting too long to make long short - u keep your tokens tight - you get weekly dividends, u don't support the sell pressure - ICN price goes up |
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i want a make love coin，proof of make love，thats will be popular。
I like the idea  would like to be the verifier |
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after reading the entire thing
If you were me, would you invest?
What is the main point which lead you to invest in this ico but not others?
Thanks, thinking to invest around $100 but still unclear whether its an A+ project or not
1. No one if forcing you to invest. 2. If you have even slightest doubt about this project, then you should not risk your money. 3. So far ICONOMI team is pretty on point with explaining nuances, strategy and future of this project - which is very good sign that it will indeed will be successful. 4. Which other ICO you considered as investment option beside ICONOMI? I doubt they are bigger at this point. 4. Which other ICO you considered as investment option beside ICONOMI? I doubt they are bigger at this point. Look at DECENT ICO and compare: website, platform(after login), team, activity, etc I wanted to invest there as well, but it just doesn't feel right. I really haven't seen a united team like ICONOMI is so far for quite some time. DOn't forget that they are a legalized financial company within EU. More than 1mil of euro was invested in the ICO so far - it is from people that do not hold bitcoins or any other altcoin. It shows a great interest from "outsiders". Can you show it for any other ICO? I was looking into DECENT and considering to invest. But they couldn't launch ICO properly it was not good signal. Main things that prevent me from investing: 1. They postponed launch for 24 hrs (to 9/11) 2. On second attempt site just didn't work - I tried 7times in first 2hrs 3. Their bonus was strange 50% for first 3hrs?? And also unclear - limited to some amount. After all this I just decided to strengthen my position here at ICONOMI Thx a lot! We were working really hard not to postpone ICO launch and we launched exactly on time thanks to our great Devs! So far there was no serious DDoS attack. Also we didn't start with some enormous percentage bonus and we also didn't invest 2mins before ICO launched for everyone else with out own tokens to receive that enormous bonus reward, which would be meant for "home" team only. Some other maybe did just that. I also looked at DECENT project (even posted at their page and did not get very positive answers). The 'contact us' form on their official site is not working for a week (despite few posts about it), the ico platform looks bad, the email notification for subscribers did not work (all these were due to external service providers problems) and few more. The token distribution they have just does not make sense to me - deducting 10% every week from the token value and this pumpie 50% bonus the first day.. all this and more makes me feel good about my early investment in Iconomi |
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How much and when would we get returns from this ICO?
Are the Tokens tradable?
seriously? perhaps make a small tiny effort and look at the whitepaper need link? Ok I read the whitepaper now. But still one doubt. Would we be sharing profit of the company , as the whitepaper says we would get % ownership on basis if number of icn we own yes, the percentage of ICN tokens you have represents the percentage of company shares correct, 1 million tokens = 1% Right now 1% costs about $60,741. usd then if i am having 1k ICN token in the end of the ICO then what will be the cost of the value that i am holding , because i am weak in mathematical calculation. LOL. No one can tell you exactly how much the coin's value will be at the end of the ICO and at the starting of Trade. almost 10 days still remaining in ICO so better to wait and keeep patience. you'll know at the time the correct price.. Personally I'm wishing that a ICN token should worth 0.005BTC at the starting. Personally I'm wishing that a ICN token should worth 0.005BTC at the starting. - why you want a 5$ initial price for ICN token? currently one token is around 0.05$ which is 0.0001BC |
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How much and when would we get returns from this ICO?
Are the Tokens tradable?
seriously? perhaps make a small tiny effort and look at the whitepaper need link? Ok I read the whitepaper now. But still one doubt. Would we be sharing profit of the company , as the whitepaper says we would get % ownership on basis if number of icn we own yes, the percentage of ICN tokens you have represents the percentage of company shares |
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How much and when would we get returns from this ICO?
Are the Tokens tradable?
seriously? perhaps make a small tiny effort and look at the whitepaper need link? |
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Hi all
first of all - I invested a small amount in the project and wanted to share some thoughts/concerns I have:
1. the newsletter did not reach all participants on time regarding the ICO, and looking at the bitcoins invested, the first few hours was HEAVY invested - i think the first one was 200BC and other similar sums
I read the glitches part - sounds more like an excuses. What will be when the real technical challenges will take place? Handling newsletter and simple API/website with 2FA is not the most complicated thing out there
2. The team - the founders are not technical guys, meaning a lot of devs will need to be hired and paid. Not sure what the founders will do in the next few months. Who is gonna be paid from ICO money and how much?
Not to offend, but going over the team info from the website, it sounded a bit forced: "...helping to organize events...", "supporting the community"... nothing actual that I could see
Besides Marián Hvizdo few words I couldn't see much more. Also - he says it CAN become this and that, he is the escrow of the project... donno, kinda fishy to me
3. Some technical impressions so far:
a. ICO portal (after login) - looks clumsy to say the least.
b. No google authentication, which is MUST for every ICO and other platform that respect itself ( I participated in few ICOs - all had google auth).
This one time code-to-email looong line looks bad, the menu to chose from (only 1 option) looks almost amateur
c. Need to login again if u want to see updated info.. no refresh??
d. Things just DONT work: Contact us form in the official website generates error in white letters over gray background - really hard to read it.
Where are the email addresses?? support@decent... Why just a web form? what happens if it doesn't work? what are the alternative ways to contact you exactly?
Do you really expect us to visit you there? Who is there anyway??
I know it is the beginning of the ICO, BUT it does't matter - coding is coding and the above points show me little dev skills or "let's publish it fast, doesn't matter how it looks like"
4. Coins distribution - definitely not my cup of tea - why ppl get less if they join during the ICO? It is acceptable not to get any bonus, but the fixed price should be the same - total cons issued/total funds
And no, cutting the bonus after X weeks is NOT the same as giving different price per token - 10% less every week??
5. Seems like the team is flying around the globe lately - from far east to USA, Bahamas?!!? Why Bahamas - is it a strategic place to be during the first week of your ICO?
New offices in Shanghai.. So, if your center is located in the far east - what r u doing in the Bahamas? Who is funding the flights/hotels/drinks? Is it the ICO money perhaps?
have some more, but that is a good start
Waiting for your thoughts
Hi, thank you for your thoughts. 1. We are using Mailchimp as a newsletter provider. 2. Dunno where you got this information. Matej Michalko studied Computer Science at EPFL in Switzerland and I studied mathematics and physics. The ICO money are not being used right now. Marian Hvizdos isn't escrow on the project he just endorsed the project because he believes in it. 3. As said before and cleared in the latest announcement regarding the ICO software, we used platform from Stratis and cooperated directly with Chris on it. 4. This price decrease is there to reward the earliest supporters. 5. DECENT is looking to become global project therefore we need to ensure the community is built up around the globe. This is currently payed from our own resources. You can see that ICO funds are still in the wallet https://blockchain.info/address/33WDB3nsVHH5qafCAriPb8Jmb1e3ptsY4hHope my answers satisfied you. HI again thanks for the reply, I will try to respond: 1. You are using external provider for a service that you obligated to provide to your customers - it is within DECENT scope or responsibility. We did not sign up to that external service, nor did we chose which one to use as your backbone service. From your answer it sounds like it is not your fault/responsibility. Why didn't you choose your service provider more carefully. After all, send email is not a complicated task, and it is one of the first relationship between you and the potential investors. Same goes for section 3 - eventually YOUR platform look bad, non professional and "glitchy" - why do we care whom platform it is in the background? Will we get the same answers for the real platform? 2 - Does it mean that you two are going to work on the code? What experience you have in blockchain development? 4 - price.. The 50% bonus on the first day is just to pump the investments so other can join the ride. You reward early supporters by providing EXTRA bonus to their investments (15-5%) and not by cutting the amount of tokens per BC by 10% every week. Sorry, but I just don't buy that - it jsut creates a bubble in the first 24 hours. Other ICO projects that are maybe more confident do not give this 50% pump bonus 5 - ICO funds are still held, but what will be after ICO finishes? Are you going to have salaries from the ICO money? If so, for what work? What about company expences? You know that are hundret legit ways to get personal expenses back. Still not clear why the Bahamas? Is it such a strategic place for DECENT platform? What about all the things that don't work, such as 'contact us' form? Sorry, it just doesn't see so good from here - what will be when the really hard technical challenges will start to pile up? hey asshole, nobody is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to invest. If you are unhappy with this opportunity, just give it a miss and if you already invested, then you should have done all that due diligence a long time ago. asshole? Why? because I raise legit questions? I invested less than 100$, I am not crying for the money I put in trying to get answers., or at least some kind of discussion. |
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after reading the entire thing
If you were me, would you invest?
What is the main point which lead you to invest in this ico but not others?
Thanks, thinking to invest around $100 but still unclear whether its an A+ project or not
1. No one if forcing you to invest. 2. If you have even slightest doubt about this project, then you should not risk your money. 3. So far ICONOMI team is pretty on point with explaining nuances, strategy and future of this project - which is very good sign that it will indeed will be successful. 4. Which other ICO you considered as investment option beside ICONOMI? I doubt they are bigger at this point. 4. Which other ICO you considered as investment option beside ICONOMI? I doubt they are bigger at this point. Look at DECENT ICO and compare: website, platform(after login), team, activity, etc I wanted to invest there as well, but it just doesn't feel right. I really haven't seen a united team like ICONOMI is so far for quite some time. DOn't forget that they are a legalized financial company within EU. More than 1mil of euro was invested in the ICO so far - it is from people that do not hold bitcoins or any other altcoin. It shows a great interest from "outsiders". Can you show it for any other ICO? |
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Just because a project attracts a lot of investment does not automatically mean that it will succeed- prime example, the DAO fiasco The problem with crypto is that all you idiots are super greedy and quite frankly, I am sure that 99% of you fucks only care about whether this shit will fucking pump like ETH did. Don't lie, you are all hoping for some ridiculous ROI. Let's just hope ICONOMI does not do a "Waves" Do you know an investor that does not look for ROI?? some of us are here for the long run, actually. I do agree that money collected is not a guarantee for success. I do hope that people that put money into projects like that one check other stuffs, like the team, the company behind, idea, road map, advisory, escrow, etc You sound a bit angry (or u r just some 16 y/o with a lot of zits on your face?) |
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