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141  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your alignment? on: May 19, 2011, 04:38:26 AM
Hopping between all chaotic alignments.

Which version of D&D added nihilism? :p

I would classify nihilists (the real ones, not the cartoon ones that show up in movies as pictured above) as True Neutral.
142  Other / Off-topic / Re: Debate as a Bloodsport on: May 19, 2011, 04:32:25 AM
Yeah well you're just a dick.  Grin



Srsly though, I agree. Namecalling is something one ought to have left behind in elementary school (or grammar school for the non-US folks here).
143  Economy / Economics / Re: What happens when Bitcoins are illegalized in the whole world? on: May 18, 2011, 10:03:36 PM
Laws are nothing but the opinions of violent people backed up by violent threats. Most of them ought to be broken as often as possible. Especially since most of them are about preserving the power of those violent people, and with it, their ability to literally get away with mass murder, theft, and fraud.

You're right you don't have to do illegal things if you are anti-establishment. But if you don't, you're not very consistent.
144  Economy / Economics / Re: How to discourage hoarding - brainstorm on: May 18, 2011, 09:11:58 PM
It is an unreasonable concern. But seeing how people had already pointed that out in rare form, I decided to offer something that someone who worries about such a thing (however unjustifiably) can do to remedy it. Call it a placebo, if you want. But it isn't really, because encouraging more people to accept bitcoin is good advice even if nobody ever worried about hoarding.
145  Economy / Economics / Re: How to discourage hoarding - brainstorm on: May 18, 2011, 09:03:42 PM
Why would anyone want to discourage savings and investment?

Because they've drank the Keynesian kool-aid. But I'm willing to define hoarding, for the sake of discussion, as saving money to the point of a loss currency's usefulness as a medium of exchange. I'm aware of the extreme unlikelihood of that happening, but I do like to address people's concerns on level ground.
146  Economy / Economics / Re: What happens when Bitcoins are illegalized in the whole world? on: May 18, 2011, 08:06:33 PM
...I have no intent in doing anything illegal.

Why not?
147  Economy / Economics / Re: Eight decimal places isn't enough... on: May 18, 2011, 08:01:39 PM
The current software only allows division up to 8 decimal places. That's not a hard limit.

Even if it weren't, it would be possible for systems to be set up which would distribute shares of the smallest divisible value. It would be a problem, but not a hard one to solve - especially considering how widely it would already have to be used and accepted before we ever got to that point.
148  Economy / Economics / Re: Moving away from BTC, like the Gold Standard? on: May 18, 2011, 07:54:03 PM
I've only recently begun understanding Bitcoins and decided to ask my Economics professor about the viability of decentralized digital currency.

She responded by saying that it will not be sustained just as the Gold standard was replaced by the Dollar (in the US).
The Dollar is also backed by the Fed. and our confidence in it.

It sounds like she's pissing Kool-Aid i.e. she drinks the Kool-Aid so deeply and so frequently that her urine is mostly Kool-Aid.

Intellectual kidney failure ahoy.
149  Economy / Economics / Re: Moving away from BTC, like the Gold Standard? on: May 18, 2011, 07:25:57 PM
No-one will migrate to an inflationary currency. It's simple game theory: I stick here and my relative purchasing power goes up, or I go over here and my purchasing power goes down. Humans are selfish, and bitcoin fortunately supports that while keeping things fair Cheesy
You are assuming government never gets into the business of regulating the Bitcoin economy, as they did with the regular, formerly gold economy.

The regular, formerly gold economy was not consciously formed to resist the government's power over money. Bitcoin is being consciously developed to undo that power. That's quite an advantage.
150  Economy / Economics / Re: Moving away from BTC, like the Gold Standard? on: May 18, 2011, 07:23:12 PM
I see her point.

Let's say Bitcoin becomes as popular as the dollar. Banks start accepting it for deposits and making loans with it. At first you can cash out into your personal Bitcoin wallet.dat, but eventually banks start lending out Bitcoins from demand deposits. Bank runs occur. The US government institutes Federal Bitcoin Deposit Insurance and a Federal Bitcoin Reserve, institutionalizing fractional-reserve Bitcoin banking. Federal Bitcoin Reserve Notes are issued which are not redeemable in actual Bitcoins. And then we end up exactly where we are now.


The two solutions to this are

a) education about the problems of fractional reserve banking and the benefits of hard money

b) Making sure the default Bitcoin client is so useful that people don't feel the need to ever use banks in the first place.

Definitely this. A is more effective in the long term, but B is much easier to accomplish in the short. Either one will suffice.
151  Economy / Economics / Re: How to discourage hoarding - brainstorm on: May 18, 2011, 07:15:36 PM
There is only one way to do it. Get more people to accept it, so that would-be hoarders have plenty of opportunities to spend. And here is how you do that:

First, recognize that most businesses in the mainstream (your local supermarket, for example) are totally reliant on state capitalism. You will have to look outside the mainstream economy to find merchants who will accept bitcoin. Look further to find more who are open to persuasion. What we need to do now is to get enough people using bitcoin so that when - not if, but when - the dollar becomes useless as a medium of exchange, bitcoin already exists as an alternative. We won't find those people running brick and mortar businesses that have the approval of the FTC, FDA, and (certainly) the IRS. We will find them online, primarily; but also in the black and grey markets that the government so kindly provides for us by making "legitimate" business so hard to do.

People for whom reputation replaces licensing, and relationships substitute for advertising. Your landscaper who already takes payments under the table. The local farmer's market, where people barter all the time. Flea markets which trade off the books in bullion. Small-time, unlicensed contractors. Underaged laborers, illegal immigrants, used book sellers, greasy spoon restaurants, pawn shops... you can find them wherever you go if you look for them. Get to know them; build mutual trust. And then make an offer. Pay a little extra. Help them get started. Get them hooked - and then tell them to go and do likewise.
152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to call 0.001 BTC? (5 BTC Bounty) on: May 18, 2011, 04:16:07 PM
I would just call them credits.

With a strong sense of irony, I hope, since they are designed to be the economic opposite of "credits".
153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to call 0.001 BTC? (5 BTC Bounty) on: May 18, 2011, 02:25:45 PM
How about just sticking with BTC (and whatever symbol we finally agree on eventually) and using scientific notation? 1E-3BTC for 0.001, 1E-8BTC for one Satoshi etc

What ribuck said following your post. Also: WAY too many syllables. We're discussion shorthand here. One E minus three B T C is NOT shorthand.
154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: more bitcoin spam email (this could become a problem) on: May 18, 2011, 02:12:33 PM
Point of information: if you support the project, then why don't you advocate buying bitcoin?
155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would adoption of bitcoin as official currency by a small country validate it? on: May 18, 2011, 01:54:25 PM
Also, I don't see why any foreign country would legitimize bitcoin. With the debatable exception of Ron Paul, people become politicians so they can enjoy political monopolies. Bitcoin is destructive to that end.

Some countries have pegged their currency to the dollar. Others see the dollar as a threat.

That is because some countries are powerful enough to assert their own political monetary monopolies, while others lack such power, and their political classes are content to be parties to the benefits of the US monopoly. There is no political advantage to a nation adopting bitcoin. That is its best quality. I can see it being possible for a conservative monarch of some kind to use it in a misguided attempt to be a "laissez-faire ruler", but only theoretically.

What could be more likely is that a smaller polity might adopt it in the process of secession from a larger state (say, the Canton of Zug from Switzerland, for example) but even that likelihood seems marginal to me. And the US, as history shows, is rarely very friendly to secessionists. We can be nearly certain that if a US State were to secede with pro-liberty motives and use bitcoin, that would only solidify the Federal government's position against it.
156  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would adoption of bitcoin as official currency by a small country validate it? on: May 18, 2011, 03:01:11 AM
Depends on what and how much that country exports.
157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would adoption of bitcoin as official currency by a small country validate it? on: May 18, 2011, 02:57:43 AM
No, because the US government has the legal power under established precedent to ban the use of any foreign currency they choose.

Also, I don't see why any foreign country would legitimize bitcoin. With the debatable exception of Ron Paul, people become politicians so they can enjoy political monopolies. Bitcoin is destructive to that end.
158  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The $1000 Bitcoin, yes it's worth at least that. on: May 18, 2011, 02:11:09 AM
Good points all around, although I'm not entirely convinced that people will give up a 5000-year-old social technology so easily. I'm not attached to it, but I'm still going to keep some on hand just in case. But the good thing about a free market is it doesn't matter which one of us is right, because nobody's going to force anyone else to accept one way or the other.
159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Warning: Bitcoin4Cash fraud! Won't ever do business with Madhatter again. on: May 18, 2011, 02:01:38 AM
It's entirely possible that neither side is fradulent, but that a failure of the government managed postal system is to blame.

Possible.
160  Other / Off-topic / What is your alignment? on: May 17, 2011, 07:07:03 PM
I'm chaotic good.
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