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141  Economy / Speculation / Re: So who sold < $230? on: November 14, 2013, 03:46:39 PM
After seeing it go up my co-worker finally bought in at $204 (about 10).

After it then dropped to $180 and came back up he sold it all at $205.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9flTO7CYgo
142  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin crashes when those investing realise 2 things on: November 14, 2013, 03:45:27 PM
I actually tend to find a divisibility a good argument. However, one can find very difficult to own an atom of gold, whereas you can own 0.0000001 btc.

So, I do believe can crash because of this. I just hope it will return to a niche.

Let's compare apples to apples.  There are about 10 billion ounces of gold in the world.  Divide that by 21 million and you get that the final supply of each bitcoin equals about 476 ounces of gold today.  A Satoshi is 0.000 000 01 bitcoin, so it is equivalent in supply to .000 004 76 ounces of gold. 

.000 004 76 ounces of gold might sound small, but the equivalent value of that amount of gold at current prices ($1276/ounce) is .6 cents.  That seems oddly close to a reasonable base unit for a currency to me.

Coincidence?  I think not.  Satoshi knew what he was doing and probably based the final supply and initial divisibility off of similar calculations. 

+1
143  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Time to Boycott all US Companies on: November 14, 2013, 03:42:15 PM
The Bitcoin Foundation needs a structure like The Pirate Party. It's preposterous that all the power is centralized to US based foundation. Also, people need to boycut Avalon.
144  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin could be worth 100x more than today. on: November 14, 2013, 12:31:09 PM
A stock in Berkshire Hathaway Inc. is worth $172.000. Bitcoins could surpass that within a decade or so..
145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin entering the mainstream FINALLY? on: November 14, 2013, 11:58:17 AM
There are still not enough infrastructure supporting bitcoin for mainstream usage so no.

I have the feeling alot of companies are working on this. There is still a lot of first mover spots in different industries.. Even banks could benefit form integrating bitcoins, or they could eventually be left out in 10-20+ years
146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should mBTC become the default unit now on: November 14, 2013, 11:46:35 AM
No, we shouldn't change it. Otherwise we lose the pricing mechanism. Just like gold is calculated in ounces, we need to have a whole unit to benchmark against.

I don't see how we would lose the pricing mechanism, of course the price would be divided by 1000, but there would be more units equal to that.
147  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How do I change the identifier - blockchain on: November 14, 2013, 11:39:32 AM
I want to change my identifier to something I can remember but dont know how I have tried searching everywhere and cannot find anything...

In settings you can change your username to whatever you want
148  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many coins does it take to be a millionair (US$) right now? on: November 13, 2013, 10:26:16 PM
There is no better time to buy than the present.

As much as I love idioms, now is definitely not the right time to buy. Sure it may go up incrementally, or even explosively in the next couple weeks, but right now BTC is in a huge bubble, and throwing down money now instead of waiting a month or so will probably end up costing you money unless you can play the short run well enough.

Cause ya know what they say... A penny saved is a penny earned.

I beg to differ.. Bitcoin will explode even more within the next 12 months.. Those facebook brothers, ETF and China will push it above $1k easily.. And when the European Central Bank begins confiscating personal funds to pay off the Unions debt, crypto currencies will go through the roof aswell.

Also I bought a reasonable amount yesterday, so far im up 12%, and I'm hopefully gonna get some more fiat converted into bitcoins in the next months..
149  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How To Sell BTC With a Paper Wallet on: November 13, 2013, 10:12:52 PM
But I wouldn't store anything online, except for a hot wallet with 2-3 bitcoins max.. But I suspect 2-FA will not protect you if you recently used it to login, since it will only ask for 2-FA once every 10-20 minutes..
150  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: blockchain.info now using Bitstamp market price? on: November 13, 2013, 07:21:56 PM
Yea, I think Blockchain is using Bitstamp now since they are leading volume in western markets, when that is said I think gox prices are representative..

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qj9yb/mtgox_prices_are_more_representative_than_you/
151  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is going to happened to the lost bitcoins?? on: November 13, 2013, 02:19:12 PM
What is going to happen to the lost bitcoins??

I mean there are many different ways to lose BTC, for instance I started mining and after 4 days I just got 0.00000885 BTC, so I stop mining and I can not get the BTC out because at BitcoinCZ in order to withdraw money you must have at least .01 BTC so I will just leave the very little BTC I got mining and then they will get lost.

And for sure I am not the only one who is in the same situation, and also there are other ways to lose BTC, So the question is what is going to happen with those BTC lost?  will they ever be recover? will they be replace? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

in this scenario I would assume BitcoinCZ eventually gets the coins..
152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Any way to retrieve bitcoins through a paper wallet? on: November 13, 2013, 02:17:22 PM
Also, check if your key begins with a number 5, or a letter L or letter K.

blockchain.info may not accept compressed keys yet. So maybe that's why it think it's invalid.

I just swept a private key to Blockchain starting with 5K, also says all formats are supported in the import/export section.

Try importing a private key that starts with a K or L. Here, I'll use an example:

L1TU3ksw7CmMbT3JsVnSbCRUM7siEuUvo45ee9BjjMeCYYDtdiQA
Kyoy4Ji5yJqYXaohP6j9CD61YxZp7KrD3ps2N53PtrXdvTN6Pc6j
KxxHV1fNHUt9TB5rf3oag2kSkFowgqwXdZ23zPEzicRvQMxFs9K7

I just generated those from bitaddress.org

Keys that start with 5, including 5K are uncompressed keys.

Yea, I wouldn't know how to do that. I make my paper wallets on bitaddress.org with their brain wallet sections and just back up the private key in import format..
153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How To Sell BTC With a Paper Wallet on: November 13, 2013, 11:17:46 AM
What is the safest place to import the private key to?

I use Blockchain with Google 2-FA to sweep private keys, it's a breeze

154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Generate private key offline on iPad? on: November 13, 2013, 11:09:59 AM
But my main concern was, whether it was secure to generate a private key off an offline iPad......

As long as it is offline, yes.

My guess is that you plan to use it online afterwards. Do you know what kind of data is left is the browser cache, or if ios stores that kind of data somewhere. Maybe it wants to help you remember a password you forgot. This is all about that is theoretically possible.

Realistically, you could probably just generate that key online and be more than fine.

I'm not sure how much data the cache will pick up alot on bitaddress, but will make sure to clear all browser-related files from chrome/safari app.
Thanks for your answer
155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Any way to retrieve bitcoins through a paper wallet? on: November 13, 2013, 10:45:10 AM
Also, check if your key begins with a number 5, or a letter L or letter K.

blockchain.info may not accept compressed keys yet. So maybe that's why it think it's invalid.

I just swept a private key to Blockchain starting with 5K, also says all formats are supported in the import/export section.
156  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Generate private key offline on iPad? on: November 13, 2013, 10:29:31 AM
I still haven't gotten a single helpful answer.
One would be appreciated..
157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: For those of you that haven't realized by now, its time to start securing your $ on: November 13, 2013, 10:20:52 AM
Why not carve your private key into a tree and hope it makes a sound if it falls.

Or create a song where the nodes are based off the private key and print it to a discman/usb/cloud
158  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Generate private key offline on iPad? on: November 12, 2013, 05:50:38 PM
bump
159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Generate private key offline on iPad? on: November 12, 2013, 01:21:09 PM
As I'm not tech savvy enough to boot my computer from a live version of Ubuntu to generate a wallet through bitaddress.org, I considered going the way:

1. Go to bitaddress.org with a non jailbroken iPad
2. Turn off wifi
3. Make a brainwallet with a random phrase of +100 letters, numbers and symbols
4. Write down private key on a piece of paper, proceed to do several backups

I will safe the public key on a computer and then send funds from a bitcoin exchange.. This way my private key cannot get hacked, unless sombody has remote access to my iPad while offline, but from my understanding that should not be possible on an IOS tablet.

Can anybody tell me if this would be a bulletproof way to generate a private key?


How can it be a "brainwallet" if it is 100 random characters?
 1. You can only remember that if you have super human memory, or they are not really random.
 2. a private key is one third of that length - so why not just remember the private key if your memory is so good?
 3. this passphrase length is absolute overkill. In practice it won't protect you more than a 15-20 character random password - it will just increase the risk of you forgetting it at some point.

As stated I'm gonna back-up private key in physical form, just using brain-wallet function to generate a unique private key. (So I guess you could call it a paper wallet)
So yes, the passphrase will be overkill- indeed. But my main concern was, whether it was secure to generate a private key off an offline iPad......
160  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Generate private key offline on iPad? on: November 12, 2013, 10:55:17 AM
you can go to bitaddress.org and just save that page.

Then you don't need internet connection to open it, you just
need the file with the page and you can generate new addresses anytime
without internet.  All the needed javascript code is inside that one page:
it's designed to be client-side, usable offline.

Yea, I figured it was the same as loading the page and disconnecting afterwards.. However, I need a desktop computer for that, which will increase the chances of my private key being logged.. (since IOS tablets are yet to be filled with spyware)
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