My numbers say it's always better to buy than mine. For  Monero, my home server pushes around 15 H/s (a single thread) because that's the right thing to do even if you don't mine. If everybody did this, we would have no centrazilation problem.

I feel like you just got trollrolled.

Well you kinda answered yourself, only the numbers can be smaller. My home server is 24-thread and its a pretty common rig. I suppose i could squeze say 500 H/s. If i had 2 I would be at the lower bound of my interval. If i had a rack of them I would be close to the upper bound. Similarly for say, a school computer lab.

I can't answer the first question because I don't mine.

I am not too worried about the hashrate.

1.If you look at the chart it grows on a noisy exponential. It's faster than I expected, but it is more consistent with strong interest (and high price) than a secret GPU miner.

2. I have just started studying CryptoNight in detail, but so far it looks like GPUs are not going to be a killer if they do happen.

 A. CryptoNight is indeed almost memory-bound in theory, and monero miner is indeed almost memory-bound in practice (after Noodle's un-de-optimization). This means there is no uberminer, maybe a heavy optimization can double the rate again. The other CryptoNote coins are afaik still de-optimized so someone mines at 4x the rate others have.

 B. On a GPU the high latency of GDDR3/5 and the tiny caches of the shaders means that most time will be spent waiting for the RAM, to a much larger degree than on a CPU. This is not too say there is no compute, but there is not a lot of mindless compute like in BTC. CryptoNote is more computationally intensive than BTC on the crypto side and it is latency-bound (i.e. it does a lot of mindless memory access) instead of compute-bound, so that's why typical hashrates are so low compared to anything else.

 C. Slow-hash uses AES at some point. Most modern CPUs have dedicated hardware for it, but GPUs are terribly slow at large integer arithmetic.

It could be possible that CryptoNote is indeed CPU-only for a few years at least. This doesn't mean it doesn't have it's own problems, and that's one reason I asked about the attack vector thread.

3. IMO monero is overpriced for now. Botnets don't hoard, so they tend to keep the price low. I don't have a problem with this. On the other hand they do secure the network. Someone rightly said upthread that the miner network is itself a botnet.

4. I believe a large part of the network hashrate is individuals with 1-10 kH/s mining alone. I don't think this is a problem either.

Is there a thread to discuss attack vectors and slowly specify the protocol? Right now the code is the spec and that's a recipe for black swans (see BTC hard fork in 2013).

I think it's important to start the discussion early because there's a lot of work to be done before it's time to code. We need documentation, we need to audit all code and we need to think about attacks.

Where should such a thread be created?

That article is way too relaxed given the true magnitude of the problem. There was an article on zerohedge a few weeks ago. Apparently more than half of all that debt is not used for school at all. There are people who do the third useless undergrad degree because you don't need to pay the student loans when you study. So you just get degree after degree on student debt. Some people apparently understand the black hole they're falling into any say there's nothing else they can do. They just hope the government will forgive them, because federal student debt is not bankrupt-able. And you know what, the government will, going itself further into the black hole. Indirectly, like, allow people to take undergraduate degrees forever. I'm sure they can just add the death-defaults to freddy and fannie.

Man, relax. All the negativity is shortening your life and all this energy is better spent elsewhere.

Allow me to correct you on a matter of semantics. A troll, by definition, is entirely conscious of the facade they play. It is the name of the game to make it as outrageous as possible but realistic enough that it is not dismissed out of hand. So everyone should know the troll is full of shit, but everyone should believe others might fall for it. This is when you get an echo chamber of warnings about the troll, of other trolls recognising the act of trollery and joining the act. The ultimate troll is a Chaos Master. I strongly believe now that Jorge is an expert troll. Look at how smoothly he argued that he's playing the devil's advocate. Then he admitted he knows the audience is not the target of his obligation.

And all we do now is sit in the middle of the echo chamber and keep feeding the troll. Jorge is likely on cloud nine.

A very lucid argument for playing devil's advocate. I believe Jorge is a troll of much underestimated skill. My respect for you grows again, sir.

The exchange is still very new and possibly buggy. For example, there are orders of negative size in the orderbook. I don't know what to make of that except random bug.
Manual withdrawals seem to be a problem for many, but I can't see why.
The MRO community probably trusts you more than Kozi.

I don't think you'll go free for a few weeks at least 

Sounds like Huobi is in full zero-reserve-mode.

With today's update, blockchain sync, hashing and mining are much faster on Core 2 (is anyone still using Core 2's?). Does this hold for other arches?

Add one more https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594826

Given that the Foundation is no longer trustworthy IMO this looks like just the next step in the long con. It's even worse if the PTB are behind Sunlot - don't forget how much private data Gox had. Witch hunting anyone?

Last year they had the same difference and at the time that was because it is much harder to get USD in BTCe. This was reflected in USDEUR too for example.

I don't know if that is still the case.

I use bitlisten minimized. I actually like the tunes, and big transactions sound dramatic.

They traded the first derivatives too if I'm not mistaken?

Why are you doing this? It refreshes on its own for me :/

The only thing I'm worried about is that the CB's freak out when stocks try to correct and put the printers on overdrive again. Nobody affords deflation right now. The tower of debt is too high compared to the tower of currency.

Impressive. You must be 10 years older than in March. And 20 wiser at least.

Normalize your holding by your initial investment. What's your ROI? Did you buy once at the beginning or did you accumulate?

When did you start trading and, if you bought 1 BTC when you started trading, how much would you have now?