Did anyone notice that anarchy is back on the forum? Might have insight on our discussion. He was always on the forum during nov-dec 2010 when I first joined. Then went quiet except during times of high stress or high gains, didn't believe it was the same person until yesterday.
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Did you just receive your Avalon or is this more free association of thought?

I noticed that the trollie-moley population seems way too quite. Switching tactics maybe for articles and commentary off-forum. Most news articles have solid btc commentary by fellow bitcoiners to counter any FUD...  but this is the first time I sense the trolls are at a loss to counter the rise in prices without looking foolish.

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I just read Gavin's response.

Alastair Carnegie
Anybody see this in comments section? duh, erp derp!

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What would the time frame be for full implementation to alpha and are there any precursors or valid test cases that we can implement prior to a full product being available? Is the light version of this idea just as valid or does it need to meet any threshold value between inception and full run?

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I remember reading 'Decartes Error' 20 years ago and the story of Phinn just stuck in my head.
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PS. I hope this is the pre-accident version of him!

Just to clarify... merely Canadian, we love our hockey.
Sheesh! Eh?
Pass me a beer, hosehead.
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He was born in a crossfire hurricane... hey Phinn!
Put me on the list, but only if I'm the 99th pledge... it's a Gretzky thing.
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PS. 1 coin per pledge adjustable to current market rates lol

Currency in the ripple system is tied to reputation through indebtedness. Contractual obligation of works yet to be produced. Works already performed are forms of value that require some type of payment through a monetary-based system. Valuation does not always have to be monetary, hence barter systems and black market off-the-books IOUs. Two balances of debt and credit create currency to drive works and the contracts that support future works. Other forms of value would be memes and the transcendent nature of cooperative systems.
Bitcoin is an adaptation of a new meme applied to a highly competitive system - this transformation alone is valuable but still just one anchor of the triangle which will push all weaker systems aside. The other forms of valuation are under-utilized and ready to be exploited wholesale. Any guess as to what they are?
Ideas and the valuation of ideas is what the next anchor is. A simple app designed to foster real grouping, devoid of FUD and their ilk through a WoT that is fail-safe. Diaspora* is set to be one such engine, likely to require time and effort. Everyone is searching for that idea that infiltrates society at a deep level akin to facebook/myspace/aol/MSNMessenger which all grandmas will use and delight in. I am working on mine and I hope everyone involved in Bitcoin is thinking up that next killer app to compliment what has already been created here. Ripple/frecoin/OT server/blindbitcoin/TOR networks/MESH nets are here to help what is currently built and supports the anchor. The next anchor point is just over the horizon, possibly to come from someone involved in these meme-changing projects.
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April 2010, while researching information bottlenecks. I think I found it on Sourceforge/Freshmeat... not sure if there was a git repository yet? Actually spent too much time researching Ven?!?! Came back in late November and have been amazed ever since.
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I have given this subject lots of thought during the past several years and would like to add:

- Bitcoin is cryptocurrency defined by a decentralized protocol to control the information of value.
- Decentralization is key to longevity of any value system - no bottle neck within the network.
- Controlling information pertaining to value is the reason d'etre for cryptography.
- Value is what everyone argues about in the forums - hard to define or gather consensus.
- Value, specifically Bitcoin's, is tied to block discovery and/or any alt currency we wish to invent.

I remember Linux was despised for being free and open source software was vilified as unworkable in the not so distant past. Valuation of Bitcoin will remain steady, although our current attempts at comparison to fiat currencies, swing wildly on a daily basis. There will come a variant of valuation that is not tied to currency, yet mimic the decentralized, crypto nature of Bitcoin.

Bitcoin's wider acceptance in the greater population will rest with this 'value' system's ability to draw everyone, everywhere.
So, sometimes it's not all about the money - but what is it that you value?

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Troll alert!!

bleech!

Be forewarned that this is a troll post looking to goad comments.
troll-e moley!

Ok, PG and we can therefore derive?

PS. how's it going with that spike thing through the head?

Information unfiltered has a strange attractor among many groups that would otherwise be oblivious or unperturbed by a little known open source software derided as nerdcoin. The threat is not in the Bitcoin protocol or it's wide adoption, but in the meme change of knowledge. If allowed to prosper, Bitcoin and future iterations will undermine the misconceptions of present society and create a domino effect towards all bottlenecks or containment of free flowing information. We have brought hard attention to the commons and by using the same concepts as bitcoins (merkle tree et. al.) hopefully some kid has envisioned that phase-shift application for forums and documents.
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You forgot Dragons and Uruk-hai, paid professionals that target Bitcoin forums during times of duress.
Dragons have superior intellect training par excellence to guide trolling masses towards legitimate threads and long-time posters with the sole aim of distracting from proper posting. Uruk-hai are infiltrators that lay dormant until the dragons attack and do pile-ons and violent responses with endless thread production and support gibberish for dragon threads.
Or I could be completely wrong.

http://slightlyoffended.blogspot.com/

Does anyone know if Aaron Swartz still visits the forums?
He has extensive advocacy background and could possibly aid in preliminary ideas:
- source from the website: http://www.aaronsw.com/

EFF was founded to preserve the FOSS stance during the tumult of the late 90's and early century against a hegemony of Microsoft lawyers. They have not professed to be experts of finance. If Bitcoin was a simple software litigation issue then EFF would be the perfect candidate for our current woes. I think EFF is a formula that you take to ward off colds of the litigious nature. We have a severe case of fiscal cancer and no one is sure if Bitcoin is the cure or the disease. Either way, the remedy is a sister-style organization to the EFF that confronts the excesses and extremes within Bitcoin and the very certain attack from without.
The internal issues with Bitcoin and its offshoots are numerous but definable and therefor resolvable. The external issues will be multiplied by our success and unpredictable. We should ask for advice from EFF and other FOSS advocacy groups that are willing to guide us during this expansion phase.
Any thoughts from the grownups?