Cloud mining? Entahlah gan. Sudah banyak cloud mining yang terbongkar kedoknya. Semuanya bagus diawal, ujung2nya baru ketahuan jika itu ponzi dan akhirnya tumbang. Menyisakan kerugian khususnya bagi para investor yang datang belakangan. Ane pernah jadi korban salah satu diantaranya. Harus ekstra hati2 dalam memilihnya, cari referensi sebanyak mungkin, perhatikan transparansinya apakah mereka benar2 punya alat miner atau tidak, pilih yang ga pake kontrak dan persiapkan mental untuk kemungkinan terburuk. Dan khusus untuk cloud mining bitcoin, dengan tingkat difficulty yang semakin menggila dan rate btc yang cenderung turun, ane kurang yakin apakah itu masih layak dijadikan sbg pilihan investasi.
Setuju gan. Kalo mau yang paling transparan dan terpercaya saat ini hashnest. Mereka produksi sendiri hardwarenya, dan nggak pake kontrak (walopun beberapa bulan yang lalu sempet keluarin kontrak PACMIC). Kebanyakan cloud mining yang pake kontrak sih jadi ponzi di tengah jalan (entah di tengah jalan berubah jadi ponzi gara2 difficulty makin naik atau dari awal emang niatnya ponzi). Kalo scrypt mining sih enaknya ada beberapa yang bisa merged mining, jadi MUNGKIN dari sana profitabilitynya bisa dijaga.
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kalau pemerintah sih lebih khusuk menghack uang rakyat gan ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) kayaknya malaysia juga pernah melarang deh gan, tapi para pebisnis dari malaysia tetap melirik bitcoin sebagai investasi. btw.. pernah belanja di bali pake bitcoin blum gan? katanya bisa makan di restotan dan bayar pake bitcoin. Menghack uang rakyat? Wah ane kurang paham apa maksudnya gan. Bali? Belum gan, wilayah jelajah ane baru sumatra, jawa, kalimantan. Itu pun cuma kota-kota besarnya doank ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Tapi ane memang pernah mendengar kabar tsb. Mungkin karena di Bali banyak turis manca negara. Akan jauh lebih mudah bagi mereka untuk membayar dengan bitcoin ketimbang repot2 mencari money exchanger. Nampaknya hal itu disadari oleh para pebisnis di Bali dan akhirnya mereka memberi tambahan alternatif pembayaran via bitcoin untuk memudahkan konsumennya dalam bertransaksi. Sangat bagus, semoga kota2 lain segera menyusul. sayang nya baru bisa di bali ya, btw di jogja udah bisa buat nyewa travel bayar pake bitcoin nih. Keren juga gan, nama travelnya apa tuh?
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- snip - BCS ya? Kalo pake kontrak (apalagi ampe setahun) ane males. Ga bisa cash out kapan aja. Sebelum scrypt.cc sih ane pake hashnest, di sana ada trade marketnya juga jadi harganya lebih murah. Operatornya bitmain (yang bikin antminer) jadi percaya lah, wong dia pasti pegang hardware. Tapi pas liat scrypt.cc dan liat2 reviewnya di internet jadi pindah aset semua ke sana ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Kalo mau nyoba 0.01 btc sih boleh aja gan, lumayan dapet ~900 kH/s Ane sendiri juga belum balik modal di BCS, masih kurang 30% lagi. Ane baru tau sih kalo BCS itu ponzi, soalnya waktu invest dulu ane belum tau tentang forum Bitcointalk ini. Kalo udah tau dari dulu mending ane ikutan invest di Scrypt.CC, sekarang juga ane lagi ngumpulin dana :v kalo menurut ane patokan ponzi atau nggak itu gampang gan coba cek aja badbitcoin.org di sana ada list websitenya. amhash, BCS, cointellect masuk sana semua ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Menurut agan sendiri Scrypt.CC itu termasuk ponzi gak? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Beberapa orang bilang itu termasuk ponzi, ane jadi ragu invest di situ... Itu ponzi gan, udah jelas ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Coba cari bukti mereka beneran mining, pasti gak ada scrypt.cc 1+2+3+4+5+6 => 6/7 = Ponzi (preliminary assessment) More info : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0Sorry ane counter. 3. Baca lagi: pictures can be faked. BCS ngasih pictures, tapi kenapa bisa masuk badbitcoin.org? 4. Open Ended IPO: tidak berlaku. Masa IPO di scrypt.cc udah closed, sekarang kalau mau beli ya di trade market (alias dari user lain). 5. Referal program: hanya 5%. Tapi ya ane akui seberapa kecilpun persentasenya tetep aja itu referal program. 6. Nama operatornya nggak pake whoisguard. Cek di sini: whois.domaintools.com/scrypt.cc, nama registernya Marcelo Santos. Tapi ane bilang nggak ada yang menjamin nama ini beneran ada atau nggak (berlaku juga buat web lainnya). Dan yang penting adalah poin 7: Exit Strategy. Kalo udah berasa scam tinggal jual lagi di market dan withdraw. Nggak pake kontrak bulanan/tahunan yang nggak bisa exit kapanpun kita mau. Jadi total "ponzi poin" buat scrypt.cc masih ada di 1+2+3+5=4/7 (partially legit). terus di page yang agan kasih link, tulisannya juga preliminary assessment ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I can tell you the truth the admin left me out to dry. I have lost over 3.7 BTC here. the admin says my account has got hacked. as much free KHS he has you would think he would make it right to me. it was his lack of security why i got hacked nothing else. I am going to show you the block chains where i put in bit coins and where my bit coins left. I got scammed I don't want to point fingers but how do i know it is a hacker when the admin will not release me the ip address and info? it makes you cant help but to think there is a cover up. well any way i have lost over 3.77 btc here. details of all my khs being sold off. lack of security made me lost all my bit coins here. i honestly think something don't seem right. I got scammed use at your own risk admin will hang your out to dry. he has free khs laying around and could of made it right to me. i feel like i have been hang out to dry. I am being perfectly honest with you all here. I don't know what truly happened to my bit coins. I hate to say what i am thinking happened but eater way i blame it on the admin. ether he took my bit coins or his lack of security on his site got me hacked. there is no sms or wallet settings for protection. I got took and left out to dry. think again about using them. here is all my proof showing i have got took. my proof don't lie if there was an sms lock and wallet locking on his system i would still have my bit coins today. if the man would have any heart he would of made it right. now i owe people in the lending clubs money i cant pay. i borrowed the bit coins to go here to mine. I feel cheated i am sorry to bad mouth the dude.
blockchain.info from scrypt.cc wallet SENT FROM 1LKXtjrVsYfJHQwub9B27nZw1EQ2C9EjB6 SEND TO 2.03953349 (page 13 2015-04-01 16:34:06 ) 1MsvVkED9SxXK6FiLuRmiCAqNwXVERgxYy FROM 1N46AyMXfHw3HVnXDSpuy3KUvDwY6t4V1U 1.73285495 1MsvVkED9SxXK6FiLuRmiCAqNwXVERgxYy (PAGE12 2015-04-01 16:24:06)
sell 04/01/2015 04:24:23 price per khs 0.00001112 sold 3,245 btc 0.03608440 sell 04/01/2015 04:20:10 0.00001115 17,358 0.19354170 sell 04/01/2015 04:17:18 0.00001010 100,240 1.01242400 04/01/2015 04:16:03 0.00001115 20,630 0.23002450 04/01/2015 04:15:21 0.00001100 45,363 0.49899300 04/01/2015 04:14:49 0.00001090 52,054 0.56738860 04/01/2015 04:12:48 0.00001110 49,947 0.55441170 04/01/2015 04:12:08 0.00001077 20,500 0.22078500
funds being removed from my account Withdrawal Ammount: 1.73285495 To BTC Address: 1MsvVkED9SxXK6FiLuRmiCAqNwXVERgxYy . Withdrawal Ammount: 2.03953349 To BTC Address: 1MsvVkED9SxXK6FiLuRmiCAqNwXVERgxYy
wallets i sent my bit coins to going to the site. 1HKDSAqHTvRLawyqtd9qARxeDQ9dmgvNNk then some time in the admin changed my wallet # to 1AcNT36zKFhjas92krz9Q92w4SUNBnZaR2 .
Fred, since you're here, could you provide some 'screenshot of your wallet transfer or scrypt.cc page? I'm also concerned with the security of the website, but too many users posted about being scammed" and they also did not provide definite proof.
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- snip - BCS ya? Kalo pake kontrak (apalagi ampe setahun) ane males. Ga bisa cash out kapan aja. Sebelum scrypt.cc sih ane pake hashnest, di sana ada trade marketnya juga jadi harganya lebih murah. Operatornya bitmain (yang bikin antminer) jadi percaya lah, wong dia pasti pegang hardware. Tapi pas liat scrypt.cc dan liat2 reviewnya di internet jadi pindah aset semua ke sana ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Kalo mau nyoba 0.01 btc sih boleh aja gan, lumayan dapet ~900 kH/s Ane sendiri juga belum balik modal di BCS, masih kurang 30% lagi. Ane baru tau sih kalo BCS itu ponzi, soalnya waktu invest dulu ane belum tau tentang forum Bitcointalk ini. Kalo udah tau dari dulu mending ane ikutan invest di Scrypt.CC, sekarang juga ane lagi ngumpulin dana :v kalo menurut ane patokan ponzi atau nggak itu gampang gan coba cek aja badbitcoin.org di sana ada list websitenya. amhash, BCS, cointellect masuk sana semua ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Eh gan saya mau nanya nih kalau misalnya agan punya 0.01 Buat apaan gan soalnya kan masih baru dan bitcoin saya baru segitu nih
apa ada cloud mining dengan total harga 0.01 pliss gan
Kalau agan mau invest di CM. ada beberapa yg masih aktif, seperti zeushash, genesis-mining. bisa diliat reviewnya, mana yg ponzi mana yg belum keliatan https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.0Makasih gan ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Ane udah nemu website cloud mining review namanya cmonitor.com <--Bisa dilihat disana gan aneudah jadi membernya disana cmonitor.com nggak bisa dibuka gan, alamatnya bener? edit: yang bener cmmonitor.com gan ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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gimana dengan mining di scrypt.cc gan apakah masih aman invest di sana?
ane beberapa hari ini masih aman gan beberapa kali WD sama deposit lancar kok mainnya masih kecil sih (<0.5 btc)... agan invest 0.5 btc ya, itu hasilnya berapa gan setiap hari kalau invest segitu. Per hari BTC0.009, bisa balik modal 60 hari. Ada kalkulatornya kok di websitenya ROInya bisa cepet soalnya kita beli khs dari trade market, bukan dari operatornya. Trus enaknya lagi hasil mining bisa buat autobuy hashrate, jadi ROI makin cepet Beda sama cloud mining lain yang belinya dari operator kan pasti lebih mahal Kalo agan ragu atau mau stop, cash out kapan aja bisa, tinggal jual hashrate di trade market trus withdraw deh Sekarang trade marketnya lagi panas soalnya ada kabar si adminnya mau nambah farm lagi. Jadi aset khsnya bisa ditrading biar tambah banyak. Kalo mau daftar, pake referal ane ya https://scrypt.cc?ref=bajJgWah, jadi pengen ikutan, tapi ane maunya cuman invest sekitar 0.01 BTC aja :v Ikut gak ya? :v Eh, di scrypt.cc kalo invest 0.101 BTC tiap hari dapet 0.00188091 BTC. Tau gini mending ane dulu gak invest di BCS, 0.102 BTC dapet 70GH/s tiap hari cuman dapet sekitar 0.00075 BTC, dan bakal berkurang terus :v BCS ya? Kalo pake kontrak (apalagi ampe setahun) ane males. Ga bisa cash out kapan aja. Sebelum scrypt.cc sih ane pake hashnest, di sana ada trade marketnya juga jadi harganya lebih murah. Operatornya bitmain (yang bikin antminer) jadi percaya lah, wong dia pasti pegang hardware. Tapi pas liat scrypt.cc dan liat2 reviewnya di internet jadi pindah aset semua ke sana ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Kalo mau nyoba 0.01 btc sih boleh aja gan, lumayan dapet ~900 kH/s
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Kalo mau invest cek badbitcoin.org gan Databasenya lengkap, ketauan mana yang bodong mana yang nggak
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invest di cloud mining gan (hashnest sama scrypt.cc) sama belajar2 trading deh nggak laki kalo nggak pernah trading ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Yaps. Itu salah satu fungsi btc yang paling sedehana, tapi saran ane kalo invest di cloudmining itu gak usah terlalu banyak gan, secara sekarang ini banyak banget cloudmining yang macam ponzi betul banget sekarang banyak sekali cloud mining yang berguguran alias kabur memang harus hati-hati sekarang kalau mau main invest. kalau saya gunanya bitcoin banyak gan, buat trading, invest dan belanja online dll. benar gan cloud mining sekarang seperti ponzi gag benar2 mining sekarang hati-hati kalau mau invest bitcoin ke cloud mining lebih baik di invest sendiri kalau hargai naik baru di jual ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Kalo kata ane sih riset dulu sebelum cloud mining gan Satu-satunya tempat yang ane percaya sekarang ya hashnest Kenapa? Soalnya dioperasikan sama bitmain langsung (yang bikin antminer) Trus ada trading platformnya, bisa cash out kapan aja (nggak usah kontrak berbulan2 atau bertahun2)
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gimana dengan mining di scrypt.cc gan apakah masih aman invest di sana?
ane beberapa hari ini masih aman gan beberapa kali WD sama deposit lancar kok mainnya masih kecil sih (<0.5 btc)... agan invest 0.5 btc ya, itu hasilnya berapa gan setiap hari kalau invest segitu. Per hari BTC0.009, bisa balik modal 60 hari. Ada kalkulatornya kok di websitenya ROInya bisa cepet soalnya kita beli khs dari trade market, bukan dari operatornya. Trus enaknya lagi hasil mining bisa buat autobuy hashrate, jadi ROI makin cepet Beda sama cloud mining lain yang belinya dari operator kan pasti lebih mahal Kalo agan ragu atau mau stop, cash out kapan aja bisa, tinggal jual hashrate di trade market trus withdraw deh Sekarang trade marketnya lagi panas soalnya ada kabar si adminnya mau nambah farm lagi. Jadi aset khsnya bisa ditrading biar tambah banyak. Kalo mau daftar, pake referal ane ya https://scrypt.cc?ref=bajJg
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Trade your money into bitcoin, and do some cloud mining. Currently the only cloud mining I can trust is hashnest. It is operated by Bitmain (the company who made Antminer series hardware). With current market price, ROI is about ~230 days. Of course you could sell the hashpower back to the market.
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Is it possible to mining BTCitcoin without any capital/asset?
If you can "borrow" your mate's computer to mine altcoin and then trade it into bitcoin, then yes, it's possible. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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invest di cloud mining gan (hashnest sama scrypt.cc) sama belajar2 trading deh nggak laki kalo nggak pernah trading ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Lha klo misalnya ada cwe yang trading nanti dia jadi laki donk gan ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Hahaha jadinya cewe tomboy gan ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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invest di cloud mining gan (hashnest sama scrypt.cc) sama belajar2 trading deh nggak laki kalo nggak pernah trading ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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gimana dengan mining di scrypt.cc gan apakah masih aman invest di sana?
ane beberapa hari ini masih aman gan beberapa kali WD sama deposit lancar kok mainnya masih kecil sih (<0.5 btc)...
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udah ada yang pernah nyoba scrypt.cc? cloud mining scrypt tapi dibayarnya pake bitcoin. ane sih so far so good, returnnya cepet karena hashratenya murah ada trade platformnya juga (mirip hashnest) jadi bisa stop & withdraw kapan aja kalau dihitung poinnya dari postingan page 1 sih, masuk 1+2+3+6=4/7, jadi proceed with care kalo mau liat2 coba ke tritnya: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=444495mau iseng2 coba, bisa pake referal ane: https://scrypt.cc?ref=bajJg
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I m sorry for your loss but it s time you people learn not to play with scam websites. 60 days ROI? No photos, no existing miner which can support this, no transparency and you complain you got hacked? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) You would lose it one way or another. After this site being up for over a year , earnings are realistic and paid on time , never had a problem after with any deposits or withdrawals personally , everythi ng the admin has said he has done , sometimes after a little time delay , he is accessible and active and you still call it a scam , pictures can be fauxed so to me thats not a problem , if he is asked for info he gives it out and yes i have ROI there many times over !! Not many sites out there that can say they have done all that!! Show me any existing scrypt miner of any company which produces Asic which can produce 200 days ROI. Not 60 days, but over 3x that, 200 days. KnC? No. Zeus No. So what you tell me is some Brazilian website found a way to design a chip all these companies ve been unable to, to invest a few million USD in its manufacturing and then sell it to you without any reason? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Wake up dude and control your greed. It s a scam and you people re gonna lose your money. Note that the ROI on scrypt.cc is short because we buy hashrate directly from other user, not from the owner of the website. If you know hashnest, the hashrate price is noticeably cheaper if you buy them from trade market.
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