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141  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Invest To Learning First on: April 29, 2024, 07:42:18 PM

Truly the best learning you can have in the market is exposure to it and experiences with market cycle. While waiting for market's movements and volume, that is when you do most of your research that you become prepared for earning seasons where most assets be it crypto or stocks usually rises. With terms of resources, there are many that is offering for free, but also for quality ones that those you can delegate where you must pay too. Yes it will be very helpful, but for me, I still enjoy doing my own research even sometimes I overlook some things that are important.  Grin

Haha, seems like these days the promotional and marketing strategies are at their peak, haha whenever I visit this section ah what bad luck I was quite active on the forum and this section but now these days things are different still point is whenever I look here, I found a couple of hot topics based on these promotions, and another trending topic of all time in this section is tips and tricks haha.

Anyway I have a tip for OP as you've mentioned as well work freely in the market expose yourself haha and let the market test your depth and emotions.
142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about building a library on bitcoin? on: April 29, 2024, 07:36:15 PM
Hmm, yup Blockchain introduced a good way to store and secure data but a large amount of data cant be stored on Bitcoin's Blockchain because this is not for what the Bitcoin network was created, there are many Blockchain networks that provide the large data storage solutions on-chain, but Bitcoin hmm it's not for data storage as you know the block size issue + each and every Block is super expensive compared to other networks.

AR, ICP, and some others in which top of the list is the file, haha I know its a Bitcoin discussion but the topic's nature demands alternative names.
143  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: April 29, 2024, 07:28:47 PM
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hmm, mai ak aj video dakh rha tha social media par jaha par kr bandy ny ya details mai bataya k q pakistan ki government ny ya faisla lainy ka socha hai k Ab solar panel system par b taxes lagna chaheyaa.. Dear mujy lagta hai har cheez ko sochny k bohat treeky hotay hain as sometimes hamain wo cheezain nai pata chal rhi hoti jo hamari smjh sy bahir hai... Us influencer ny bataya k Pakistan k Bijli wla edaara 10,000 ab unit mujhyy yaad nahi hai usny knsa use kiya tha well es mai sy 5000 ameer log use krtyy hain ot 5000 gareeb logg.. ameer log to solar pannel laga kar es bili ki bharti manhgayee sy bach jaye gy laikn es ki waja sy bijli hor mehngi ho jayee gi as jo 5000 ameer log use kar rhy hain wo b expenses ehno ny greeb logo k sir par daal diya tha....

Laikn abi tak ya law pass nai howa jis mai tax ki implementation howie hoo laikn jo b hai meray khayal mai to government ko solar system par taxe nahi lagana chaheyaa as ya kafi unfair ho jayee ga Baki ya ab goverment ki headache honi chaheya k wo log bijli ka lose kasiy pora karain... meray khayal mai government ko electrcity k sources ko bharhany chaheyaaa as jitny zayada sources hongy bijli untni hi sasti hogi or awam solar system par convert he nahi hogi.
144  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: You are responsible for your own safety. on: April 29, 2024, 05:24:14 PM
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ah, sadly surviving in the crypto space safely is getting difficult day by day one lets we are the old users in the crypto space and we can understand these scamming techniques but those who just step into this Crypto Industry can easily be trapped by the scammers but sometimes experts are also gets trapped by the Scammer because scammer keeps updating their scamming techniques.

Besides this part if someone still takes it easy will be a big mistake for him/her as only one mistake is needed for the clean washout in this space I have seen one of my friend> friend who has lost a fair amount just because of these kinds of scams so that is why we need to stay up to date for the safe survival in the crypto industry. Well thanks, Op for sharing this info with Us.
145  Economy / Economics / Re: How safe is it to keep your money and gold underground? on: April 28, 2024, 10:50:57 PM
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Well for the current time, I would never consider it a good thing, saving assets/money of any expensive ornament by burying them under the garden as it is a very ancient technique but for now we have banks or other advanced protected systems to make our money secure I also have seen many money/dramas where old people used to save their useful assets in this way but hahaha I think it feels good only in movies/films and dramas what do you think?

Do you still consider it a useful method of saving money/assets? what if you died without telling someone you have buried your assets at that place? Your child or other near one will not use your assets and this thing you will also not like in my point of view, Or what if someone opens your that specific place unfortunately? You will lose all of your assets.
146  Economy / Economics / Re: Starting a business without capital. on: April 28, 2024, 08:59:08 PM
Communication skill is required to do such business. The better the communication skill is, the more useful one is for this business. Every business needs communication skills but in this business without capital, if there is no communication skill with people, sales will not increase. And as far as I know, sales in this business will not increase.  Commission depends on. Also you need to have basic business idea. Ability to attract customers.

Yes, You are right as one should have good communication skills so that one can make/generate good sales in this field as we know that in this field as our each word matters to generate sales as our words work like an ad so the adoption of good words is very important as if the buyer will notice or feel your used words effective so then the chances of getting big sales will be increase.

There is a famous saying in our country that a marketer/shopkeeper should have good skills so that he can generate sales even if the selling chances of that item are less. This is why I also believe that one should focus on learning his/her communication skills before entering in the marker. Many of the people get flop in their new business because they don't have good communication skills.
147  Economy / Speculation / Re: After the dip in crypto, when are we expecting ath? on: April 28, 2024, 07:28:56 PM
With the information I gathered about cryptocurrency, I had interest and decided to buy some coins.
Being fully aware of the volatility of these coins, I was patient and did not panic as their were various degrees of ups and down and was told that this year is the best time to invest in crytocurrency due to the bitcoin halving which has taken place. I have been watching my coins dropping everyday in value thereby inducing fear in me as the value of what I invested has been on the continuous decline.
I do not know how soon they will begin to rise again.

You can also consider this dip because of Halving because if we notice the historical behavior of the market then the market always has been making corrections at the Halving Event well market sets back to the recovery phase now i am waiting for the good pumps in the market to happens. Hahaha For the current time market, is making me bored/frustrated as Bitcoin has been trading in the $60k-$65k Price frame from a very long time.

Besides This market will surely recover and pump back as it is the behavior of the market that it never remains in the same phase all the time. The market works on the pumping and dumping Phases... Give it time to recover you will see good pumps in the market. Do not take it as advice but yes you can use this advice as a reference for personal research. DYOR!
148  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: April 27, 2024, 02:52:10 PM
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Asslam o Alikum, Bro  first of all congrats for achieving a higher rank, hmm well main apki journey koo witness nai kar paya as from January finals thee, oske abad project, internship oske baad health issues and still facing some issue but InhsAllah I'll be here to help and guide actively now..

Bai to mention all these fellows there's a reason that I wanted to express why I was inactie from a long time.

Ye saab too chalta rehe gaa haha suna haa Zainmilk kaa Birthday haa yaa that as scanning maa pata chala isi page paa. hehe sai wala birthday haa yaa sirf account paa rakha howaa.
149  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where best to enjoy this forum... on: April 24, 2024, 09:28:53 PM
A look at the design of these forum speaks louder for it self... Saying you might not enjoy it using some devices...
When writing or reading I guess you know how it is with your android....
I didn't try it until reluctantly I decided to open bitcointalk.org on a computer system. Over there the difference was alarming compared to using your phone...
As much as it can be used on phone it is best with a computer system... I even noticed that without a computer system some challenges or updates one will not be able to follow up...


Haha, this is a Bitcoin forum and the fun is mostly in discussing lively threads on Bitcoin discussion, somehow you can find trading as well in the trading discussions. To just chill you can look forward to 2 hot threads in speculations on WO, Wall-Observers, and Buy the Dip and Hold.

Anyway mostly people find local discussions more helpful in guidance and information but to observe the trends and have an idea of what the community thinks what they know you need to look into other sections as well. My recommendation is to build good strength and connection in the local community first which will guide you in worth and information both then you can share views in rules boundary on other sections as well.
150  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Can Bitcoin be a full time career for investors? on: April 24, 2024, 09:15:22 PM
As we all know there are many investors that doesn't work for anybody rather than relying on their businesses and investment as their full time career and as well as depend on the return on their investment for the sustainabilities. So i wish to ask if Bitcoin has the potential that investors can rely on as full time career considering the inevitable uncertainty that are involve in Bitcoin investment such as difficult in price prediction and the volatile nature of the system which may pose some kind of difficulty to have adequate
Knowledge and better understanding of the system.

Maybe some of people will disagree with me, but nope it cant be, trading can be a full-time career but bro only Bitcoin doesn't possess enough potential to meet the daily expenses of a middle-class person, yup if you live a middle-class life, but you are quite rich with the inheritance money then you can say somehow you can manage to earn enough yearly return to live a good life but it will also require a harsh activity in the market, as market doesn't go upside always you need to make decision multiple times in a quarter to end with good returns at the end of the day.
151  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading with AI on: April 24, 2024, 07:34:02 PM
What I worry, is that there are people who are ponzi scheming other people saying it's AI. Think about it, what if I told you that it's AI trading bot, and then I took your money, and gave you money in return, even allow some people to cash out as well, but behind all of that, I am just paying you with your money and not with any profits?

Yup, your concern is genuine that most people do fake marketing, I can remember their narrative it's not fake marketing but just a strategy to attack people, why I'm saying that because a friend of mine bought a new Android phone and there was mentioned 12 GB Ram, haha you know these Chinese brand mention the expendable ram in their advertisement and he came to me said I got 12 GB ram phone in low cost initially I was surprised but at the end, as usual, we found it just a fake marketing strategy because those who don't know the actual use case and don't know the depth of technology and its role can neglect other things and get attracted to these things.

He said whatever its 12 GB RAM, haha I tried my best to tell him that bro its a memory expendable ram it can't help you as much, because hardware RAM and expendable RAM have a lot of differences as hardware RAM is fast in speed and the extendable one is regular memory which is usually ufs-2.2 not good to help in processing and PCB management.


Anyway telling this whole story is relatable because people buy the name only as if users who don't understand how Ai will help you out in the trading in analysis or decision making he'll just buy a dummy signal subscription or a bot subscription which will randomly take trade and make decisions and in the end, you'll lose money in subscriptions dn possible to lose you trade as well if you are not conscious.

So the point is to understand what is technology and its use then go a step ahead.
152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I don’t like the term “crypto” on: April 24, 2024, 07:23:58 PM
Hmm, whether you like it or not it is a fact that most people do use it in flow, I would agree with most of the points you've mentioned that yup there's a dark reality behind this term but buddy every image possesses the dark and light spots, and it's up to you that what you discover in the first look.

Anyway, the things are described in the figures haha and where is figure 1.1, it seems like you've copied some of the stuff it's just my blind attack, you should explain it a little bit bro. Bitcoin is Bitcoin and Crypto is Crypto haha initially wanted to comment a joke but I cant firstly I want to know about he figure haha.
153  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What could be a comprehensive guide for a newbie here? on: April 23, 2024, 08:37:44 PM
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That good you want to learn about Bitcoin and the crypto world/space so I would suggest you keep active here as many of the members make useful threads or posts on Bitcoin Talk you just need to read them and if you feel this is the thing you come to know for the first time or it increases your knowledge you can also reply to that member by appreciating him/her in the form of thanks. Keep participating in the discussion that also will help you to learn fast as in discussion you will be able to ask more questions that you don't know and you want to know about those things.

You may see many of the users/members guiding you in a good way... all required is your time, focus, and reading threads if you can manage it, I can assure you that you will feel a good amount of knowledge adding to your memory. Besides this Bitcoin is the King of all digital cryptocurrencies out there in the market as far as it is concerned with reliability, capitalization, adoption or dominance.... I have seen many new users who have no idea about cryptocurrency and Bitcoin have learned from this forum and I am also suggesting the same thing just stay active here and this will surely help you.
154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you increasing your bitcoin investments because of today halving ? on: April 23, 2024, 06:35:05 PM
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Ahan! That is really great as you are still accumulating Bitcoin for your portfolio if you don't mind may I ask you a question buddy you said that you are investing/accumulating Bitcoin for your portfolio weekly so this accumulation is from the weekly payment that you received from the signature campaign or you are investing into bitcoin from another source well there will be no problem you don't want to tell/share this part but that's really great you are still accumulating bitcoin.

Well, I hope you have filled your bag up in the recent dip of the market where we noticed that all the projects were in the good buying range along with bitcoin but To be very honest I was not able to invest more on that time because I did not available any USDT in my accounts well there is no problem haha as we know everything happens is for our good. Hope/wish we all will enjoy this bull season together.
155  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading campaigns helps level up trading for traders on: April 23, 2024, 06:23:49 PM
Traders mostly enter the markets to make profits or accept losses. But these days, trading platforms incentivize traders with attractive rewards and events.
An example is this event which offers lucrative prizes like Louis Vuitton bags, Rolex watches, and even a Tesla car for achieving higher trading volumes.

Hmm, there's no doubt that it is a win-win for traders and the projects both, trading volume and activities can be motivated by such events but these activities possess some kind of risk as well, mostly new project launches such as token rewarding or asset rewarding events in which they mostly restrict the user to trade with their suggested pair only, which can cause a loss if team play any shady trick don't hat time, so never get lost with the rewards by ignoring the risk management.

Haha, at the same time, these Bonus picks are for the whales who already possess a much larger capital and don't desire to risk more with such promotional campaigns, but the random distribution events really attract the retail users as well.

156  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Pakistan on: April 23, 2024, 06:17:45 PM
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Wa Alaikum Asalam. Alhumdulila mai theek ap sunoo ap kasi hoo brother baki ya baat to sahi hai apki k dubai kafi advance country hai jaha par log new cheez or trends ko jaldi jaldi adopt kr laity hain laikn wo ya zoroor dakhty hain k kiya eski adoption worth it hai ya nai kiya ya cheez unko future mai faida dy gi k nai q k jaisa ap ny bola hai wo log apny goals ko ly kr kafi dedicated hoty hain. Baki crypto to day by day advace hoti chali jaa rhi hai as na sirf middle east duniya mai eski adoption bohat jaldi phaal rahi hai.

Or asa lagta hai k k ya bull run first and last most special honnay wala hai as maybe anny walay dinoo mai rules and regulations change ho jayee gi. and everything will be under control.Es k elawa agar hum dakhain dubai mai hr nai sy nai gari b as a taxi use hoti hai or haha jab forners waha jaty hai or dakhty hain k yar ya to hamari dream cars hai or yaha k log esko taxi bana kr use kr rhy hain to un k dreams ka b moye moye hoo jata hai.
157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How much did it cost to mine 1 Bitcoin back in 2009? on: April 23, 2024, 05:58:35 PM
Just a short question, does anyone know how much did it cost to mine 1 Bitcoin back in 2009?
Keep in mind that this was when the block reward for mining a Bitcoin was 50 BTC, and there were very few people mining. The BitcoinTalk forum member NewLibertyStandard set up the New Liberty Standard Exchange, and another forum user named Sirius sent him 5050 BTC in exchange for $5.02 through PayPal. This puts the first recorded price at which Bitcoin exchanged hands at $0.00099 per BTC12.

To be honest this is not the answer to your own question because here you are mentioning Bitcoin's market price, when they made a trade it was a market price, not the production price. The price really can be calculated hehe, at least on my end because I was not familiar with Bitcoin mining and I don't know the production scenarios for Bitcoin such as machine cost, electricity costs, etc, but if we compare the production costs we can say that the production cost was negligible.

But if you have efficient input values here are the simple formulae to calculate the production cost for the Bitcoin.... I've taken it from Reddit haha and confined it with the lazy AI tools so if this formula is not efficient don't get offended just put a note for my knowledge enchantment.

Production cost = (Electricity cost * Electricity consumption * Hash power on that time) + Hardware cost. it's a general formula there are some others but it's quite simple to understand about the production cost for one block reward then simply you can divide the answer by 50 because block reward was 50 Bitcoin.
158  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: When you make mistakes, do not fail to take corrections. on: April 22, 2024, 01:13:36 PM
Here most people go against the OP's recommendation people not only ignore the learnings after the failure even mostly people just take exit from what they were doing, learning, or experiencing in their domain. 99 Failures can be converted into a success which will be > than the 99 failures and this is how lives goes on every step when you fail you reshape your ambitions and your skills, and that is the process of true evolution.

__Peak is > Top __
159  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Need Advice for Cheap Swapping on ETH on: April 22, 2024, 11:59:21 AM
Hmm, bro to be honest I would first recommend the CEX, just buy and withdraw to your Metamsk wallet, this most the cheapest way to buy ETH, how? let me explain you don't need to pay the swap fees which is a big deal now these days but bro, to swap as well you need ETH in your wallet first, if you want to save more take the withdrawal of ETH on any low-cost L2.

If you want to directly buy ETH on your meta mask you can find a P2P seller, or metamask allows card buying as far as I know you can directly buy through a card. If you want to save on the network fees only the best way is to use the L2.
160  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This will be my first BTC halving on: April 21, 2024, 09:05:38 PM
We live in crazy times. This will be my first BTC halving and I'm so fucking happy that I learned about BTC and how FIAT money is basically a fucking scam in the past year. Thanks to this forum and happy halving y'all! Smiley

Hmm, this is your first halving OP, probably this is probably your first or second post as well on the forum, I cant get it for what you are thanking to the forum, anyways seriousness aside.

How are you doing with your accumulations, can you share your insights, as mostly here people discuss the strategies to accumulate Bitcoin as it is worthless to celebrate Halving if you don't own Bitcoin. So what are your next plans about Bitcoin we can discuss it here to find optimal accumulation solutions or anything informative because this is how we all grow in our times. With a proper discussion context, we can make this thread more engaging without having just random comments.
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