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walls just to drive the price up, and sell with high price, then the Dump come
is this how it's work?
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Please help:
where to check my transfer, (blockchain address) sent BC from Cryptsy to mintpal 20 minutes ago, still pending
http://blocks.blackcoin.pw is the blockexplorer |
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Please help:
where to check my transfer, (blockchain address) sent BC from Cryptsy to mintpal 20 minutes ago, still pending
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RE: BlackCoin virtual/real Visa and Mastercard
tl;dr this will never happen.
Preface: I'm not saying this to hurt BlackCoin. I believe in it, am invested in it, and put my company into it.
Content: That said, there's a lot of naivete going around here, from buyers who haven't been around the crypto community very long, and I think it needs to be set right. There is no point in people getting their expectations up about this.
This card will never exist. There have been a couple attempts since 2011 to do this with Bitcoin. The closest anyone got I'm pretty sure was Charlie Shrem. Visa/MC declined to give him permission after rounds of legal back and forth. At the time that was not V/MC policy because they had no policy on it. Now it is.
Visa and Mastercard have the ultimate say over whether a certain card will be issued, and they have a lot to lose from virtual currencies. They are not going to allow a direct route for withdrawal from crypto to fiat through an ATM. It's not going to happen.
I'm not saying this to burst anyone's bubble, I'm saying it so that a bubble will not form around this idea. Because those of us who've been transacting in crypto/fiat for a long time now understand that this is completely blocked by the card companies and is not going to get off the ground.
I completely appreciate what the OP is trying to do here and applaud his enthusiasm, but prior to a conversation with the card companies this is nothing.
Thank you for your comments. First read this if you haven't: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg5955668#msg5955668With all do respect but that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. There are already dedicated Bitcoin ATM machines in the US, and Canada has decided to allow customers to withdraw Bitcoin funds from standard ATM machines. You can already move your cryptocurrencies to a debit card with a few extra steps. I am just eliminating the few extra steps to make it easier for everyone. As I pointed out in my post it will not be called a credit card, but a rewards card. I am not attempting to be a financial institution issuing credit cards, or even PayPal, that is an entirely different thing. People will just be redeeming their BlackCoins for a branded BlackCoin debit card. To say something will never happen is simply ignorant, just as ignorant as me saying it will definitely happen. I rather try my best and be denied, than not try at all because of someone else being denied in the past, or because someone doesn't believe it can happen. And for the record, the representative I spoke with this morning said I have more than a 50% chance getting this approved with the wording and implementation I illustrated. PS: I remember the naysayers who said no major retail store would ever accept Bitcoin, how did that prediction pan out?The Bitcoin ATMs operate by doing BTC<>USD conversion on an exchange before they spit out the money and they are NOT using Visa/MC or any other fiat payment gateways to run the transactions. The whole reason they are "bitcoin atms" is because they are stand-alone machines, like a soda machine, operated by a private owner, who chooses to release BTC for a certain price against the inbound transaction. There is no way that cirrus or visa or other networks will allow a card that withdraws a crypto directly to fiat. I'm not trying to shoot down your idea, but I remember when Charlie and a lot of people were really optimistic about it. They started the project when we were at about $30 and they got rejected by MC sometime around the $200 level (for Bitcoin). Because technically, there's nothing illegal or wrong about this. Trust me, it will not fly. Do the research first with V & MC so you don't waste a lot of money before you find out they won't let you do this. Also Charlie is under house arrest now. In theory that doesn't have anything to do with this but in practice it's probably just not something you want to lean on real hard. Why you don't use this www.entropay.com for virtual and real Visa card, easy, accepted everywhere, you don't need approval from Visa Card, check, i'm using this from 4-5 years |
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Thank you:
BUY 0.00000002 146073.83924114 Peng 0.00292147 Btc
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Can anyone tell me who will sell at 1 sat 23045.25612858 Peng for 0.00023045 Btc
(just now he sold)
Is he in need of cash or just want f**k our alliance?
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Correct, none of the pools are working
But if devs did not make the source available to pool operators before launch, it will take them some time to get everything set up to go (one pool operator mentioned this earlier in the thread), up to 20 minutes.
So with a little luck, there will be pools available within a few minutes.
Bad that dev doesn't listen to recommendations about releasing source to pool operators prior to launch though...
Who is the Dev here, can we contact him, or just abandon this coin? |
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Which pool is best for mining this coin
Please answer him, i don't work in mining, i don't know |
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This is the PenguinCoin thread, i'm asking PenguinCoin holders, PenguinCoin supporters:
Remove all your sell orders up to 10 Sat, we will sell our coin at 11 sat not less, do that for the entire month of April, make the Campaign work, charities will buy your coins at 11 Sat.
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1. you dont reach EVERYONE, not here and possible not in every forum you use.
2. ppl dont care about the coins anymore today. They want cash. So its altcoin -> btc -> fiat.
That's well said: altcoin -> btc -> fiat. Looking more useful for investing reason in this way: fiat <- btc <- altcoin and this converts to quite stable <- volatile <- highly madafucking volatileyou are all right, i'm not discussing numbers and direct fast profit i'm speaking about being usefull for your self and for the world you living in this is the last chance for your coin to have a higher value don't wait for an investor of 100 Btc, don't wait a pump, that will not happen PenguinCoin will die if will not get support from the community holders of Peng Then its dead, like 99% of all the other altcoins. Who needs them anyways ? BTC is enough. Sorry but thats a fact. Also dont expect the community to help, 99% also dont stand behind the coin, they dont care what coin it is. Will the price at xchange pay my electricyty and do I make profit with it is the only thing. No, BTC is not enough. It is too slow. I'm not sayin that penguincoin or other first generation altcoin will replace BTC but for sure there is a place for more coins than one. Tell me why pls. The ONLY reason for altcoins was / is: To get BTC faster then mining them directly. BTC mining means tons of investment for hardware. LTC was made to let everybody mine again with GPU+CPU So there is just that reason: To get btc in a affordable way. Dont tell me you want to tell every point of sale owner that they have to accept Doge, cat, moon or Penguincoin ? They dont even understand why they should accept BTC...so.. Altcoin are essential for Bitcoin and Miners if Bitcoin is the engine, Altcoins are the other parts of the machine no Altcoins > no miners That is 100% what I said. "to get bitcoins" without mining bitcoins. So you see, you dont need THIS special altcoin, every altcoin will do. So why should I be behind PENG then ? OR Cat ? Or name it. As long my GPU brings me profit Ill mine the coin, maybe trade it. PENG will not pay that. Just few Altcoins will survive in the next period i'm not inviting you to buy PenguinCoin, i'm just inviting the PenguinCoin holders to give value for what they hold and give a chance for the Campaign to work just useful Altcoins will survive, if you are PenguinCoin holder support the efforts to make your coin useful as an international way of donation |
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1. you dont reach EVERYONE, not here and possible not in every forum you use.
2. ppl dont care about the coins anymore today. They want cash. So its altcoin -> btc -> fiat.
That's well said: altcoin -> btc -> fiat. Looking more useful for investing reason in this way: fiat <- btc <- altcoin and this converts to quite stable <- volatile <- highly madafucking volatileyou are all right, i'm not discussing numbers and direct fast profit i'm speaking about being usefull for your self and for the world you living in this is the last chance for your coin to have a higher value don't wait for an investor of 100 Btc, don't wait a pump, that will not happen PenguinCoin will die if will not get support from the community holders of Peng Then its dead, like 99% of all the other altcoins. Who needs them anyways ? BTC is enough. Sorry but thats a fact. Also dont expect the community to help, 99% also dont stand behind the coin, they dont care what coin it is. Will the price at xchange pay my electricyty and do I make profit with it is the only thing. No, BTC is not enough. It is too slow. I'm not sayin that penguincoin or other first generation altcoin will replace BTC but for sure there is a place for more coins than one. Tell me why pls. The ONLY reason for altcoins was / is: To get BTC faster then mining them directly. BTC mining means tons of investment for hardware. LTC was made to let everybody mine again with GPU+CPU So there is just that reason: To get btc in a affordable way. Dont tell me you want to tell every point of sale owner that they have to accept Doge, cat, moon or Penguincoin ? They dont even understand why they should accept BTC...so.. Altcoin are essential for Bitcoin and Miners if Bitcoin is the engine, Altcoins are the other parts of the machine no Altcoins > no miners |
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1. you dont reach EVERYONE, not here and possible not in every forum you use.
2. ppl dont care about the coins anymore today. They want cash. So its altcoin -> btc -> fiat.
That's well said: altcoin -> btc -> fiat. Looking more useful for investing reason in this way: fiat <- btc <- altcoin and this converts to quite stable <- volatile <- highly madafucking volatileyou are all right, i'm not discussing numbers and direct fast profit i'm speaking about being usefull for your self and for the world you living in this is the last chance for your coin to have a higher value don't wait for an investor of 100 Btc, don't wait a pump, that will not happen PenguinCoin will die if will not get support from the community holders of Peng That is right, community behind the coin is the key. Devs should start main topics, community should support and follow or rediscuss what to change/add to push it further. Let's work together to create a better future!  +1000 We can make a difference, don't sell your PenguinCoin for a month
Give a chance for the Campaign to work |
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1. you dont reach EVERYONE, not here and possible not in every forum you use.
2. ppl dont care about the coins anymore today. They want cash. So its altcoin -> btc -> fiat.
That's well said: altcoin -> btc -> fiat. Looking more useful for investing reason in this way: fiat <- btc <- altcoin and this converts to quite stable <- volatile <- highly madafucking volatileyou are all right, i'm not discussing numbers and direct fast profit i'm speaking about being usefull for your self and for the world you living in this is the last chance for your coin to have a higher value don't wait for an investor of 100 Btc, don't wait a pump, that will not happen PenguinCoin will die if will not get support from the community holders of Peng |
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Help People, help your self
you are invaluable, Don't sell cheap
Make it Work |
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The 10 Billion Fund for better LifeIn cooperation with PenguinCoin, LeafCoin, Southern Charity Hub, +500 International CharitiesWe are launching the first and biggest ever charity fundraising using Crypto currency online Campaign period: from 31, March 2014 to 31 December 2014 Fund target: 10 Billion coin for participation contact us on: coordinator@leafco.inYOU CAN MAKE IT WORK |
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Net amount: +2115462.00 PENG Transaction ID: 8cce3b94f99d2884cca18b5dca0dd891253248dadfa3c7ef1a0b3b825dc4b38e Net amount: +300000.00 PENG Transaction ID: cff6f9d222effe1434966e5a0315e7ac305ae92fbb053583d7bb0bafb9a3602c Net amount: +500000.00 PENG Transaction ID: 33b33c935f898abf84125f5d83f14c26d46f83e8b305665224455ea941645759 Net amount: +5000.00 PENG Transaction ID: a2770dc2e9fcef5fed5776bda982fa9062431ff35eb6404f2364ee76173ebc17 Net amount: +6690.00 PENG Transaction ID: 3aab05b3eef59c7e44096d56f1c2a302093b81e288f99c02a5c89b623b9d6fbf Net amount: +1000.00 PENG Transaction ID: aea46d695f60e2c73f664e05f17204c5e744a974ea53b3c9541b29462b6077ae Net amount: +5000.00 PENG Transaction ID: 25589d6bc0794033ff52893d71e9a784098b1c7469cbae9f6f9f47c8c09e6222 |
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Hi everyone, PenguinCoin Community, PenguinCoin holders:
I'm trying since two weeks with all efforts to help PenguinCoin rise and survive
- i added PenguinCoin to my fundraising page as method of payment.
- i added PenguinCoin to the (The 10 Billion Fund for better Life) Campaign.
- i brought some investors for 22 Btc.
but still no reflection from this community,
-you still selling your coins at 1 Sat
-you don't believe in the coin you hold,
-you still building your sell walls at 2 and 3 Sat
-no donations, no action, no help, no cooperation, no support
I am sorry to announce that PenguineCoin will not be anymore in the (The 10 Billion Fund for better Life) Campaign next Monday and will be replaced by another coin unless the situation will be adjusted in the next three days,
and a big thanks for all who are helping:
mykitou42
black_whale
maxsolnc
gandol
nojle
multioptions
cryptoreview
Too sad to hear. Anyway, I'd like to donate some more PENGs (and bump the thread) please receive incoming TX  Recieved, thank youNet amount: +2115462.00 PENG Transaction ID: 8cce3b94f99d2884cca18b5dca0dd891253248dadfa3c7ef1a0b3b825dc4b38e I'm just asking to remove those selling walls at 2-3 Sat, don't sell your coins now (there are enough offer in the market) and show some more cooperation Sorry, but do you really think it works that way ? This all happens at an exchange with more then 1000 users, so dumping into that small buy wall is quite common. Also a lot of buys at 2 sat happen over past 2 days. If you want to kickstart the coin you need a LOT more then 20 btc. Remember moon ? They invested 100 btc into 1 sat buy wall in 5 days until movement begun towards 37 satoshi at the end. 1. you dont reach EVERYONE, not here and possible not in every forum you use. 2. ppl dont care about the coins anymore today. They want cash. So its altcoin -> btc -> fiat. I ask everyone to help and spread this strategy, most of the PenguinCoin holders frequents this forum. they want cash yes clear, they can have there cash 10 times more when the charities begin to use PenguinCoin as way of payment |
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Hi everyone, PenguinCoin Community, PenguinCoin holders:
I'm trying since two weeks with all efforts to help PenguinCoin rise and survive
- i added PenguinCoin to my fundraising page as method of payment.
- i added PenguinCoin to the (The 10 Billion Fund for better Life) Campaign.
- i brought some investors for 22 Btc.
but still no reflection from this community,
-you still selling your coins at 1 Sat
-you don't believe in the coin you hold,
-you still building your sell walls at 2 and 3 Sat
-no donations, no action, no help, no cooperation, no support
I am sorry to announce that PenguineCoin will not be anymore in the (The 10 Billion Fund for better Life) Campaign next Monday and will be replaced by another coin unless the situation will be adjusted in the next three days,
and a big thanks for all who are helping:
mykitou42
black_whale
maxsolnc
gandol
nojle
multioptions
cryptoreview
Too sad to hear. Anyway, I'd like to donate some more PENGs (and bump the thread) please receive incoming TX Recieved, thank youNet amount: +2115462.00 PENG Transaction ID: 8cce3b94f99d2884cca18b5dca0dd891253248dadfa3c7ef1a0b3b825dc4b38e I'm just asking to remove those selling walls at 2-3 Sat, don't sell your coins now (there are enough offer in the market) and show some more cooperation Sorry, but do you really think it works that way ? This all happens at an exchange with more then 1000 users, so dumping into that small buy wall is quite common. Also a lot of buys at 2 sat happen over past 2 days. If you want to kickstart the coin you need a LOT more then 20 btc. Remember moon ? They invested 100 btc into 1 sat buy wall in 5 days until movement begun towards 37 satoshi at the end. |
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Hi everyone, PenguinCoin Community, PenguinCoin holders:
I'm trying since two weeks with all efforts to help PenguinCoin rise and survive
- i added PenguinCoin to my fundraising page as method of payment.
- i added PenguinCoin to the (The 10 Billion Fund for better Life) Campaign.
- i brought some investors for 22 Btc.
but still no reflection from this community,
-you still selling your coins at 1 Sat
-you don't believe in the coin you hold,
-you still building your sell walls at 2 and 3 Sat
-no donations, no action, no help, no cooperation, no support
I am sorry to announce that PenguineCoin will not be anymore in the (The 10 Billion Fund for better Life) Campaign next Monday and will be replaced by another coin unless the situation will be adjusted in the next three days,
and a big thanks for all who are helping:
mykitou42
black_whale
maxsolnc
gandol
nojle
multioptions
cryptoreview
Too sad to hear. Anyway, I'd like to donate some more PENGs (and bump the thread) please receive incoming TX Recieved, thank youNet amount: +2115462.00 PENG Transaction ID: 8cce3b94f99d2884cca18b5dca0dd891253248dadfa3c7ef1a0b3b825dc4b38e I'm just asking to remove those selling walls at 2-3 Sat, don't sell your coins now (there are enough offer in the market) and show some more cooperation |
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Hi everyone, PenguinCoin Community, PenguinCoin holders:
I'm trying since two weeks with all efforts to help PenguinCoin rise and survive
- i added PenguinCoin to my fundraising page as method of payment.
- i added PenguinCoin to the (The 10 Billion Fund for better Life) Campaign.
- i brought some investors for 22 Btc.
but still no reflection from this community,
-you still selling your coins at 1 Sat
-you don't believe in the coin you hold,
-you still building your sell walls at 2 and 3 Sat
-no donations, no action, no help, no cooperation, no support
I am sorry to announce that PenguineCoin will not be anymore in the (The 10 Billion Fund for better Life) Campaign next Monday and will be replaced by another coin unless the situation will be adjusted in the next three days,
and a big thanks for all who are helping:
mykitou42
black_whale
maxsolnc
gandol
nojle
multioptions
cryptoreview
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