i have discovered a flaw with current PoS implementation
you can easily do a 51% attack with PoS blocks without needing large holdings
since PoS blocks are generated on a coin age basis, you could create TXO's delayed by a time offset at the minimum TXO cost for a future attack period
so after creating 10000 TXO of 1 MINT separated by 0.5 seconds to make sure 60 consecutive blocks are generated at repeated interval by your wallet 20 days in the future, the attack would last 1 hour and 40 minutes
enough to put the security and function of a coin in question
couple that with the fact the difficulty calculation includes PoS blocks, that would mean difficulty would jump to stratospheric levels making it impossible to mine PoW blocks
If you really believed this, then how come you have only told it to the Mint and Zeit community? because i came to the realization only an hour ago
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It seemed to make sense from my limited understanding and lack of awareness in the specific algorithms for proof of stake
currently looking at the source code, its likely i was wrong
if only it wasn't such a disorganized mess i could of avoided this embarrassment
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He don't know. HE KNOW FUD
If you have more coins you get the blocks sooner, so to do 60 mints in a row is near impossible. wrong, you generate a PoS block as soon as you hit 20 days condition, the only limiting factor is whether your block is accepted quick enough to not become an orphan, in which case your wallet would try again
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i have discovered a flaw with current PoS implementation
you can easily do a 51% attack with PoS blocks without needing large holdings
since PoS blocks are generated on a coin age basis, you could create TXO's delayed by a time offset at the minimum TXO cost for a future attack period
so after creating 10000 TXO of 1 MINT separated by 0.5 seconds to make sure 60 consecutive blocks are generated at repeated interval by your wallet 20 days in the future, the attack would last 1 hour and 40 minutes
enough to put the security and function of a coin in question
couple that with the fact the difficulty calculation includes PoS blocks, that would mean difficulty would jump to stratospheric levels making it impossible to mine PoW blocks
are people really not concerned about this? YOU CAN 51% ATTACK ANY POS COIN WITHOUT THE NEED FOR 51% OF SUPPLY OR ANY PoW HASHRATE AT ALLNot concerned because it is not true. Go ahead and try it if you think it is so easy. i am not interested in doing an attack, but you should be worried that it is doable. go over the logic THIS IS FIXABLE, BUT REQUIRES A HARD FORK I don't think so, but for arguments sake, what's the fix? reduce weight of PoS blocks in difficulty calculation set valid PoS block condition to use coin-days and not coin age, difference being coin-days is ammount of coins * coin age
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i have discovered a flaw with current PoS implementation
you can easily do a 51% attack with PoS blocks without needing large holdings
since PoS blocks are generated on a coin age basis, you could create TXO's delayed by a time offset at the minimum TXO cost for a future attack period
so after creating 10000 TXO of 1 MINT separated by 0.5 seconds to make sure 60 consecutive blocks are generated at repeated interval by your wallet 20 days in the future, the attack would last 1 hour and 40 minutes
enough to put the security and function of a coin in question
couple that with the fact the difficulty calculation includes PoS blocks, that would mean difficulty would jump to stratospheric levels making it impossible to mine PoW blocks
are people really not concerned about this? YOU CAN 51% ATTACK ANY POS COIN WITHOUT THE NEED FOR 51% OF SUPPLY OR ANY PoW HASHRATE AT ALLNot concerned because it is not true. Go ahead and try it if you think it is so easy. i am not interested in doing an attack, but you should be worried that it is doable. go over the logic THIS IS FIXABLE, BUT REQUIRES A HARD FORK
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i have discovered a flaw with current PoS implementation
you can easily do a 51% attack with PoS blocks without needing large holdings
since PoS blocks are generated on a coin age basis, you could create TXO's delayed by a time offset at the minimum TXO cost for a future attack period
so after creating 10000 TXO of 1 MINT separated by 0.5 seconds to make sure 60 consecutive blocks are generated at repeated interval by your wallet 20 days in the future, the attack would last 1 hour and 40 minutes
enough to put the security and function of a coin in question
couple that with the fact the difficulty calculation includes PoS blocks, that would mean difficulty would jump to stratospheric levels making it impossible to mine PoW blocks
No. In order to get 60 consecutive blocks you would need a TON of coins. There is no way that 1 mintcoin will produce enough coin age to overpower the network's coin age for 1 hour and 40 minutes. 1 MINT all alone by itself would probably take years to successfully get on the blockchain. wrong, only the calculation for how much coins you generate uses coin-days valid block generation only uses coin age
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i have discovered a flaw with current PoS implementation
you can easily do a 51% attack with PoS blocks without needing large holdings
since PoS blocks are generated on a coin age basis, you could create TXO's delayed by a time offset at the minimum TXO cost for a future attack period
so after creating 10000 TXO of 1 MINT separated by 0.5 seconds to make sure 60 consecutive blocks are generated at repeated interval by your wallet 20 days in the future, the attack would last 1 hour and 40 minutes
enough to put the security and function of a coin in question
couple that with the fact the difficulty calculation includes PoS blocks, that would mean difficulty would jump to stratospheric levels making it impossible to mine PoW blocks
are people really not concerned about this? YOU CAN 51% ATTACK ANY POS COIN WITHOUT THE NEED FOR 51% OF SUPPLY OR ANY PoW HASHRATE AT ALL
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since PoS blocks are generated based on TXO age, wouldn't it be possible to generate a bunch of small TXO with slight time offset and cause a 51% attack?
i expected PoS blocks to use coinage to determine when to generate a valid PoS block, but it seems that is not the case, since 1000000 ZEIT would achieve 20 coin-days in 34 seconds if it were the case
im sorry but im bailing for now, i cannot take the risk of a public panic reducing my value to 0 this can be fixed, but it will require a hard fork
I still have hope for this coin and what it represents, we need better organization and more involvement to really go forward tho.
If that was the case... Novacoin, Mintcoin, and Blackcoin could all be hit by the same thing. I have yet to see that. Not sure if you're trying to cause panic or not. because no one has thought of it or tried to do it. but the fact is the logic stands for someone to be able to do it, the cost is the minimum transaction size * how long you want to maintain the attack I'm still not 100% sure I understand what you're saying. you can generate as many TXO as you want right? (granted its valid TXO and they are propagated and mined by the network, meaning it might cost the minimum transaction fee per TXO) PoS blocks are generated after a TXO has matured 20 days right? SO YOU DONT NEED 51% of SUPPLY TO DO 51% PoS block attack, infact you dont need any PoW at all to attack a PoS coin difficulty would rise to an unminable point i may be wrong
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i have discovered a flaw with current PoS implementation
you can easily do a 51% attack with PoS blocks without needing large holdings
since PoS blocks are generated on a coin age basis, you could create TXO's delayed by a time offset at the minimum TXO cost for a future attack period
so after creating 10000 TXO of 1 MINT separated by 0.5 seconds to make sure 60 consecutive blocks are generated at repeated interval by your wallet 20 days in the future, the attack would last 1 hour and 40 minutes
enough to put the security and function of a coin in question
couple that with the fact the difficulty calculation includes PoS blocks, that would mean difficulty would jump to stratospheric levels making it impossible to mine PoW blocks
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since PoS blocks are generated based on TXO age, wouldn't it be possible to generate a bunch of small TXO with slight time offset and cause a 51% attack?
i expected PoS blocks to use coinage to determine when to generate a valid PoS block, but it seems that is not the case, since 1000000 ZEIT would achieve 20 coin-days in 34 seconds if it were the case
im sorry but im bailing for now, i cannot take the risk of a public panic reducing my value to 0 this can be fixed, but it will require a hard fork
I still have hope for this coin and what it represents, we need better organization and more involvement to really go forward tho.
If that was the case... Novacoin, Mintcoin, and Blackcoin could all be hit by the same thing. I have yet to see that. Not sure if you're trying to cause panic or not. because no one has thought of it or tried to do it. but the fact is the logic stands for someone to be able to do it, the cost is the minimum transaction size * how long you want to maintain the attack couple that with the fact the difficulty calculation includes PoS blocks, that would mean difficulty would jump to stratospheric levels making it impossible to mine PoW blocks i may be wrong
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since PoS blocks are generated based on TXO age, wouldn't it be possible to generate a bunch of small TXO with slight time offset and cause a 51% attack?
i expected PoS blocks to use coinage to determine when to generate a valid PoS block, but it seems that is not the case, since 1000000 ZEIT would achieve 20 coin-days in 34 seconds if it were the case
couple that with the fact the difficulty calculation includes PoS blocks, that would mean difficulty would jump to stratospheric levels making it impossible to mine PoW blocks
im sorry but im bailing for now, i cannot take the risk of a public panic reducing my value to 0 this can be fixed, but it will require a hard fork
I still have hope for this coin and what it represents, we need better organization and more involvement to really go forward tho.
i may be wrong
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Have I missed something? Why is the difficulty jumped so high?
5-10 ghash? no pool in the list has all this power who is taking all these blocks? now is down to 0.8-1
PoS blocks are part of difficulty calculation network hashrate shown is calculated from difficulty seriously, care to skim over previous posts?
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5-10 ghash? no pool in the list has all this power who is taking all these blocks? now is down to 0.8-1
PoS blocks are part of difficulty calculation network hashrate shown is calculated from difficulty
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not only are we going to finish PoW a week early, we are not gona generate anywhere near the expected amount during our last week since PoS blocks are causing difficulty to spike
i think i can guarantee we will have less then 28billion ZEIT by end of PoW
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ZEIT new shape proposal: well not bad ... but doesn't it looks too .. I dunno it is nice - but ... but. too generic, looks like a shitcoin
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Have I missed something? Why is the difficulty jumped so high?
We keep popping up at number one on Coinwarz, that could explain it. We've also been added to two new exchanges, so pretty good day in regards publicity [edit] the networkhashrate has jumped up from 1.7gh/s to over 6gh/s so that's why the diff is up dont forget that PoS blocks are included in difficulty calculation, network hashrate is actually inferred from difficulty, not he other way around. might be allot of wallets generating PoS blocks right now My wallet doesn`t do nothing look at your incoming transactions and outgoing transactions match the outgoing ones to the earliest incoming transactions, those left unconsumed are the ones you will see PoS soonest from. ex: ordered by least recent to most recent in 11111 in 22222 in 5000000 in 300000 out 25000 in 666666 the out transaction would consume the 2nd and 1st TXO the wallet tries to make the smallest possible transactions in size, so the least possible inputs will be included but it also prioritizes base on FIFO
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Have I missed something? Why is the difficulty jumped so high?
We keep popping up at number one on Coinwarz, that could explain it. We've also been added to two new exchanges, so pretty good day in regards publicity [edit] the networkhashrate has jumped up from 1.7gh/s to over 6gh/s so that's why the diff is up dont forget that PoS blocks are included in difficulty calculation, network hashrate is actually inferred from difficulty, not he other way around. might be allot of wallets generating PoS blocks right now
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I didn't realize they replaced the wallet file on the site
i will try contacting the dev
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Z-28On the 28th much of the ZEITCOIN community will attack the sell walls with multiple repeated small buys ranging from 0.0001BTC to 0.01BTC throughout the day.
il be on this when morning comes, i think we can blast through that 3 satoshi wall no problem especially if we are 300, THIS IS ZEITCOIN!
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Can anybody tell why Zeitcoin wallet for Windows is loading my processor on 50-60%?
Because it's syncing? It is synced already, unlocked and opened for minting perhaps a virus is trying to bruteforce it? its also possible to bruteforce remotely,if your rpc port is open How do you close your rpc port and what are the consequences? firewall, router nat (dont forward to the rpc port) or just make sure to set ipallow to only local or router ip's but most of all, make sure you rpc password cannot be bruteforced or guessed
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