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141  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's official! The Bitcoin Foundation has an accused pedophile on its board. on: May 13, 2014, 09:22:54 PM
Innocent until proven Guilty in Court by a Jury of your Peers 
with the option for an appeal(s)

Or trial by media, internet and Mob rule.

Take your choice people.

We aren't punishing him though, just speculating on the fact and making decisions on whether to make use of his services or have business relations with him.
142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowd fund Bitcoin miners on: May 13, 2014, 09:21:13 PM
Given the principles on which Bitcoin is based it makes one wonder whether the community would be willing or would be capable to donate funds to a credible company to run crowd funded miners so the network fees are significantly lower to non existent.

If credibility wasn't a factor would you donate?

"If credibility wasn't a factor would you donate?"

Yeah, right.

You, BFL, Lab_Rat, Terrhash and Hashfast all the way to the moon!

Exactly what I was thinking when I thought about it so this is the reason I am creating theoretical scenarios.
143  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's official! The Bitcoin Foundation has an accused pedophile on its board. on: May 13, 2014, 03:37:09 PM
People shouldn't have to post their private lives to try to defend their innocence.
If people think someone has broken the Law.
Report it to the police,    anything else is heresay and malicious speculation.
If and Until they are convicted in a court of Law, they are Innocent.



Because the court always has a fair ruling and not rotten to the core and houses the very same corrupt pedophiles and criminals.

Providing the evidence here so every single person can draw his own conclusions is the free market.
144  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowd fund Bitcoin miners on: May 13, 2014, 12:29:49 PM
I am curious whether this "decentralized" sack of shit community could actually be fiercely organized to better Bitcoin.
I don't see how this idea could work, but let's imagine for a second that it does.  Why do you think it would be better for users to pay for below-market fees when they could just pay the market rate for the transactions that they actually make?  Wouldn't your proposal just mean that some people are paying for more TXs than they are making and some are paying for less?  Wouldn't this just make the market less efficient?  

No, because if I am a businessman of means I can effectively "hijack" the network by investing a large sum of money into specialized servers/hardware. I could then dictate the fees and impose them on the network, this is where we are currently today.


The coins earned by fees is tiny compared to the block reward.  The economics of mining are mostly dictated by the block reward, not the fees.  The fees only affect the profitability of completely filling blocks due to the increased risk of orphans (but that is a separate issue).  So no I don't see how any group is extracting above-market profits from fees by monopolizing mining. 


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As you can see the fees were significantly lower in relation to the amount of BTC back at the day, if you calculate the worth in Gold or even monopoly money.

Fees have been dropping when measured in bitcoin and rising when measured in dollars.  This was expected.  Fees may drop in the future when the block size is raised, new blocks are communicated by hash to reduce the orphan cost, and floating free-market-based fees are implemented.  


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Of course the lower fees would cause additional blockchain bloating which is an issue in itself, none of the Bitcoin developers recognize that.

So why would you want lower fees below their market value if you are worried about blockchain bloat?  

Blockchain bloat is a whole other issue which can be addressed separately.

The whole point of Bitcoin is that you can send significant sums of money nearly free across the world, however the ever increasing fees dictated by the business oriented miners are slowly killing the network, I don't want to get into the debate whether the businessmen that are taking the initiative and risk deserve all those fees or are rewarded disproportionately (they would want to get their ROI as fast as possible to minimize risk) either.

What I had in mind isn't a pool but a bunch of servers geared towards hashing SHA256, some could perhaps be sponsored for publicity, some donated by the good people of Bitcointalk, etc. Since it's all charity and not business oriented we would never have an ROI and continue to let the servers mine to keep the network free.
145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowd fund Bitcoin miners on: May 13, 2014, 02:43:02 AM
I am curious whether this "decentralized" sack of shit community could actually be fiercely organized to better Bitcoin.

I don't see how this idea could work, but let's imagine for a second that it does.  Why do you think it would be better for users to pay for below-market fees when they could just pay the market rate for the transactions that they actually make?  Wouldn't your proposal just mean that some people are paying for more TXs than they are making and some are paying for less?  Wouldn't this just make the market less efficient?  

 

No, because if I am a businessman of means I can effectively "hijack" the network by investing a large sum of money into specialized servers/hardware. I could then dictate the fees and impose them on the network, this is where we are currently today.

As you can see the fees were significantly lower in relation to the amount of BTC back at the day, if you calculate the worth in Gold or even monopoly money.

Of course the lower fees would cause additional blockchain bloating which is an issue in itself, none of the Bitcoin developers recognize that.
146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crowd fund Bitcoin miners on: May 13, 2014, 02:14:13 AM
Given the principles on which Bitcoin is based it makes one wonder whether the community would be willing or would be capable to donate funds to a credible company to run crowd funded miners so the network fees are significantly lower to non existent.

If credibility wasn't a factor would you donate?
I'd possibly donate. Depends how it's distributed.

If credibility wasn't a factor, I'd say probably unlikely that I would. Seems like a good scam without credibility.

I mean if credibility wouldn't factor in your decision, say Bill Gates comes up with this project, nobody would doubt his credibility.

I am curious whether this "decentralized" sack of shit community could actually be fiercely organized to better Bitcoin.

And I am by no means bashing the community, most of you are great people it's just that decentralized everything = in disarray. Are the Bitcoin members dedicated and informed enough to pull this off or will they be herded like sheep?
147  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is the Bitcoin Foundation a zombie organization? on: May 13, 2014, 02:01:41 AM
99% of people are sheeple zombies, so yes, some of them are bound to end up in the foundation.
148  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Crowd fund Bitcoin miners on: May 13, 2014, 01:59:23 AM
Given the principles on which Bitcoin is based it makes one wonder whether the community would be willing or would be capable to donate funds to a credible company to run crowd funded miners so the network fees are significantly lower to non existent.

If credibility wasn't a factor would you donate?
149  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's official! The Bitcoin Foundation has an accused pedophile on its board. on: May 10, 2014, 10:49:25 PM
The whole beauty of anarcho-capitalism is that you can either advance or degenerate at your own will.
"Anarcho-capitalism" is an oxymoron. Even in a stateless society, markets imply coercion, deception, and violence. Real anarchists don't like these things.

A real anarcho-capitalistic society would look a lot like modern Somalia. Goddamn libertarians and their utopian capitalist pipedream myths.

Learn the basics of anarchism here: http://www.infoshop.org/AnAnarchistFAQ

Right, I would learn from infoshop.org about anarchism, not from Atlas Shrugged, Anatomy Of The State etc.

Somalia is far from anarcho-capitalism, all of the damage to society occurs when a state is acting with absolute power while still under the influence of coercion, deception and violence.

Unless you can put a rational counter argument,  I win all the internetz points.
150  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How To Explain Bitcoin To Your Grandparents on: May 10, 2014, 10:42:52 PM
Explain? No.

Murder your grandparents, and melt your inherited fiat into crypto. Win at life.

This statement may be considered my professional financial advice as a Bitcoin Professional(tm).

That's not the way to win.

The way to win a sore asshole in the prison showers...
151  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's official! The Bitcoin Foundation has an accused pedophile on its board. on: May 10, 2014, 10:33:13 PM
Innocent until proven guilty would apply if the guy wasn't a homosexual, with a shady record of talking about renting abused "boys" on forums and he didn't move to Spain with a convicted pedophile after being accused.
Look, that's capitalism. You need to accept sex-slavery and wage-slavery, exploitation, poverty, war for profit, etc if you're going to accept capitalism.

If you want to join me in the ranks of anti-capialists, that's one thing. But if you like Bitcoin and "markets", you implicitly accept exploitation and sex-slavery. Sorry for having to be the one to burst your bubble.

P.S.
Age of consent in most non-puritan-hangover places in the world (ie outside the US) is almost universally 14-16.


Not in Thailand, where a 14-16 boy would be illegal.

I do agree with you, exploitation and sex-slavery are inevitable, but so is catching pedophiles and hitting them with a rubber dildo on the head or perhaps even killing them for entertainment.

I don't see what would stop you from offering pedophilia society cleansing services while making plenty of money from donations, sponsors etc in an anarcho-capitalistic society.

The whole beauty of anarcho-capitalism is that you can either advance or degenerate at your own will.
152  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's official! The Bitcoin Foundation has an accused pedophile on its board. on: May 10, 2014, 10:20:30 PM
Would you let your children play in your neighbor's yard if he just got outta jail for ONLY being accused of pedophilia, or would let them play, defending your actions to your other neighbors via, "He was only accused! Until he's convicted, STFU and let my children play inside and outside his home!"
What the fuck ever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

If you spread all this bullshit before anyone is convicted of anything, you're just as bad as the mainstream media who attacked Dorian.

Also, where the hell have you been? Demonizing threats to the status quo by calling them sexual deviants is an age old trick of the power elite. See Julian Assange.

Let that sink in for a little while.

I mean c'mon.

Innocent until proven guilty would apply if the guy wasn't a homosexual, with a shady record of talking about renting abused "boys" on forums and he didn't move to Spain with a convicted pedophile after being accused.
153  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's official! The Bitcoin Foundation has an accused pedophile on its board. on: May 10, 2014, 07:39:39 PM
"accused"?
Let me know when he is convicted of something.
Phinnaeus Gage is also an accused pedophile.  Don't believe a word he says.  And certainly don't let your kids near him.

The above person is an accused dumbass as it is evident by his signature, please disregard any posts and/or financial advice he might give you.

Also, RAWWWDOOOOGGG, providing the #1 source of news in the wastes AWWAWWWAWWWAWWOOOOOO.
154  Other / Off-topic / Re: It's official! The Bitcoin Foundation has an accused pedophile on its board. on: May 10, 2014, 07:30:59 PM
"accused"?

Let me know when he is convicted of something.

Until then STFU.

Not sure if the following will resonate with you...

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https://www.mtgox.com/press_release_20140210.html

This is probably worse news than most of us expected. Not only are they not resuming withdrawls, they are claiming it is because of basic flaw in the bitcoin protocol.

If it's not true, it's still some really bad press.  

If it is true, then will hurt the confidence of BTC in the short-term, and the price of course.

This was posted below that the flaw has been discussed elsewhere recently:

https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg03890.html

...but, in the same vein, we're talking about perception.

Would you let your children play in your neighbor's yard if he just got outta jail for ONLY being accused of pedophilia, or would let them play, defending your actions to your other neighbors via, "He was only accused! Until he's convicted, STFU and let my children play inside and outside his home!"

I probably would unless he admitted to liking "boys" and being a pervert homosexual that frequents male prostitutes that he likes to abuse (and a dumbass).

Judge people by their actions, not accusations of the state.
155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Does the US Military Think Bitcoin Is a Terrorist Threat? on: May 10, 2014, 12:12:21 AM
Because if one day Bitcoin will actually become a threat they want to have a basis established in order to take it down to keep the party going.

All those Wallstreet jackasses are hooked on the dollar, they will send your kids to die in wars halfway across the world to impose dictators that would only sell the local natural resources in exchange to... you guessed it! USD!

You would be surprised at what draconian measures states are willing to take to keep the party going, there are limits imposed in India on how much gold, businessess, property etc you can own so you will keep all your life savings in the local currency with a 20% yearly inflation, people are buying Zynga Poker chips to store their life savings!
156  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Kids Are Using Bitcoin to Buy Fake IDs Online on: May 09, 2014, 10:26:32 PM
How is it immoral exactly again?

Morality != legality, it might be legal to fuck your mates wife but it is immoral, same thing the opposite. I just don't see how this is bad unless you let the state dictate your morals.
157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what are the chances that more than 21 million bitcoin will be created? on: May 09, 2014, 10:23:43 PM
If most of the miners agree to increase the 21 million supply every block reward they will win will be worth substantially less than what it was prior to the 21 million coins, everyone will dump their reserves the moment tyranny will infect BTC.
158  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: LoveCrypto, finally an easy way to send Crypto-Currency. on: May 06, 2014, 10:39:05 PM
Pretty cool tool and you sure deserve props as a 18 year old guy, I doubt there is a huge market for it though.
159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: May 06, 2014, 04:41:12 PM
The real question should be would you pick 100kg of Gold or the equivalent in Bitcoin given the fact that both will be delivered and stored safely for you?

It seems that only a complete jackass would pick Bitcoin over Gold, Bitcoin is great as far as currency goes and for speculation purposes, it's a great rival for USD and other monopoly currency, the real store of value is Gold though.
160  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could PoS not be inflationary in nature? on: May 03, 2014, 11:24:38 PM
The title says NOT inflationary.

Sorry I read it as "Couldn't PoS be inflationary in nature?" instead of "Could PoS be not inflationary in nature?"

Read Myth 10 on this page http://peercoinmyths.com/

The bottom line is a 2% yearly inflation or whatever number of inflation they set it to is inflationary in nature versus PoW-like linear creation of coins. While the adoption rate might catch up with the inflation thereby driving the price down.
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