Could be jumping the gun here, but is Coinbase down?  It is down to me. |
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2014年8月初我曾经发帖说，比特币半年内都不会涨了，而且打压比特币最狠的将会是美国（那个帖子大家可以再找一下），然后发生了什么大家应该到看到了。那么现在，半年的时间快到了，接下来还会发生什么呢？相信很多人都想问这个问题，现在我可以非常明确地告诉大家：比特币即将迎来惊天骇浪一般的涨幅！！
可能有人会接着问，会涨到多高？1万RMB或者2万RMB（约3000美元）？具体能涨到多少，我也说不好，不过我在这里可以明确告诉大家的是：如果仅仅只是涨到2万RMB，那就根本算不上什么惊天骇浪般的涨幅了。如果说是第一波涨到2万，然后做一个调整再涨，对这个说法，或许勉强可以成立，但我个人认为在2万这么低的价位实在不需要做什么调整，5万左右或许有可能吧。
一个比较遗憾的问题是，行情爆发具体是哪一天，暂时无法精准确定。这一天按照军事术语不妨称之为D日，我暂时只能确定D日应该是在2月10日至3月10日之间的某一天。
肯定会有很多人对此不屑一顾、嗤之以鼻，甚至各种挖苦嘲弄，这很正常，当初我发那个贴，说比特币半年都不会再涨时，也是有一大堆人出来嘲笑我，这一次让他们继续笑好了。
值得一提的是，前两天有帖子说花街似乎也要大规模进场抄底，比特币价格在1月底之前会大pump，而且言之凿凿，我看了一下，感觉他说的原因确实不怎么靠谱，但从我目前掌握的一些情况看，有理由相信这事情确实有可能是真的，花街应该也是嗅到了某些极不寻常的味道...
虽然分析的途径不同，不过大家结论相同，算是殊途同归吧。 你是从业者吗？有好的想法的话可以线下聊聊。 |
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难得这个时候楼主还坚持来发帖
说说自己的看法：
1. 相对于比特币，我对人民币更没有信心，在中国，所有的资产好像都不安全，所以还是搞一点party不能随便搞的资产更安心
2. 我入场算早，手头有一些，没花几个钱，但是从不投机，主要太累，不如自己好好工作赚的开心
3. 如果比特币真的毁于强权或者人类自身的贪婪，对我自己的伤害还是可以忽略
4. 其实大家大可以花个几千块买几个放着，当成投资，然后笑看潮起潮落，我相信这点钱对于很多人来说不算什么，但是不明白为什么很多人会带着一夜暴富的投机心态进来
5. 你上面几个帖子怎么有吹牛的嫌疑？
谢谢大牛回帖。你的帖子很诚恳。 |
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At the price of $287, $20m will buy up 70K coins. And bitstamp will buy back 18-19k coins. I am neutral now, your guys to figure whether the price should go up or down.
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So $20mil to start with? That's a bit undrwhelming. Other ETFs are coming on the way. They are pending for regulatory approvals. |
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I heard bitcoin mentioned in cnbc and bloomberg tv many times this week. Good thing too.
When mainstream media is pumping, imo that usually means insiders are looking to get out. For example, Fox News didn't become all about bitcoin until it was over $950, and we all know what happened soon after. Main stream media is not pumping at all. They are bashing bitcoins in the program instead. |
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Bullish  I heard bitcoin mentioned in cnbc and bloomberg tv many times this week. Good thing too. |
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i don't understand...who care in which way they will refund us? why it's important to you?
Yes, coz 18K buy order will affect the price a lot. |
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1) Bitstamp has enough to cover in their reserve.
OR
2) They buy the 18K coins through second market or another route. They are NOT going to go to finex and place a market order for 18K coins if that's what some people are thinking. Stamp buying 18K coins will have no affect on the price.
Secondary market is the exchange. Primary market means miners. If you believe they buy from miners, it is understandable to me. But still, when miners supply the exchanges less coins than before (coz they sold most outputs to bitstamp), will the price go up or not? Let's assume that, miners usually dump 3600 coins to the open market every week. In the next ten weeks, they will sell half outputs, which is 1800 coins, to bitstamp. Now the supply on the exchange is the remaining 1800 coins. Will this move the price up or down? |
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Quoted from the coindesk article: "As of 13:00 CEST 24/05/2014, Bitstamp held 183,497.40310794 BTC in their cold wallet. Combined with the money that was in their hot wallet this totalled to about 45 BTC more than the total customer deposits and Ripple IOUs recorded in their database." Is this 45 BTC reserve enough to cover the 18K stolen coins? |
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They claim they already have more than enough Bitcoin in their cold reserves to cover the losses. There is no reason to buy it back. IIRC they were operating way over full reserve when they were last publicly audited.
At this moment, bitstamp may have the incentive to bluff a little bit to stabilize the situation. We cannot know for sure if they have enough reserve to cover their ass. Anyway, maybe you are right. But both of us are just speculating. |
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Why?
1. If they just escape, there will be serious legal consequences. And the whole media world (CNBC, CNN, etc.) is watching at them.
2. They cannot refund USD. The purchasing price of stolen bitcoins are different: someone purchase at $1000, some at $0.25. If they refund by purchasing prices, many will be unhappy. Also, the market price is changing seconds by seconds. If they refund by the market price, many may be unhappy either because bulls may argue my coin has appreciation potential and I don't want the worthless fiat at all. Finally, if they refund by moving average price, people will argue why use 30 days MA instead of 50 days MA, etc. So refunding USD is near impossible for bitstamp.
For that reasons, I believe bitstamp will quietly buy back the bitcoin from the open market.
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Bitstamp has to manipulate/force the market into a big crash to be able to honor the funds in all people's accounts, only with a much much lower bitcoin value they will be able to cover their losses.
Be prepared. When bitstamp opens their trading again the bottom will be very deep down.
Bitstamp is not stupid. If they use bots to cheat the market, they know US Marshall and FBI will be after them. To manipulate the price down, you bears even dare to promote crime. Lol. Oh really? what about Mark Karpeles? does US Marshall or FBI follow his ass? I think he is doing pretty well these years, enjoying his Luxury life and at the same time investing in bitcoin bank project and some tv programs? Oh.. you would say he is an exception? Yeah, because of one outlaw, you bears felt no guilt for promoting crime. If you hack and steal another exchange, the price will drop further more. Why don't you become a criminal yourself and try if the law enforcement can catch you? Mark escaped the punishment for now, but that doesn't mean he will escape it forever. Even escaping from the law, may not escape from the God. Oh, I forgot, low life like you may not believe in the God. |
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Bitstamp has to manipulate/force the market into a big crash to be able to honor the funds in all people's accounts, only with a much much lower bitcoin value they will be able to cover their losses.
Be prepared. When bitstamp opens their trading again the bottom will be very deep down.
Bitstamp is not stupid. If they use bots to cheat the market, they know US Marshals and FBI will be after them. To manipulate the price down, you bears even dare to promote crime. Lol. |
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This further confirms my suspicion on the relationship of bears and thefts. Some bears, especially that 30K @ $300 guy, is very suspicious. |
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Hi guys,
I just back from a weed grower. That guy said shorting Bitcoin can bring me a great fortune and he is doing it now. I am no IT expert, could some people teach me how to open an account and how to do the shorting thing? I am willing to learn, especially when I am high and cool.
I have a few grands and could someone calculate how much I will earn if this god damn thing goes to zero? 5 times or 20 times?
Thanks,
Martin
Lol, drug dealers are also shorting the market with illegal money. The bear army is magnificent. |
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You're so butthurt that you're not even making sense.
Yep, OP is retarded. Yeah, you basher will never understand or share any insight. 574 posts/replies of garbage information? Good for you. |
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Pumping this post to get some feedback.  |
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物极必反，历史规律。惯性只会让你更加平庸。在配上楼主的话，大家自己理解吧。
我站在exchange的角度，只能说做空的人没有离场，没有提现！它们的钱还在，那它们是不是反手做多，你们自己想！第二，有花街的人在和exchange探讨入市时的法律问题。花街的基金在金融海啸后被监管的很严，想投资比特币要绕过一些法律问题。搞定了，就会进场。 我泄一些信息，因为我是从业者，我希望比特币业红火。其实很多大老板早就知道2015年的大趋势了，不过我们行业也很需要小散户赚到钱然后口口相传的那种public awareness，所以也要帮散户。 你不是说花街已经进场了吗 怎么还讨论法律问题呢？ 你们完了过来拉一把TilePay吧 Dude, 从第一楼我就是说的“即将进场”。呵呵。 |
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You're so butthurt that you're not even making sense.
+1 this thread is made to distract from how criminal permabulls are who bought coins for under a dollar and keep telling people here to buy 'cheap coins' at these prices when the downfall of bitcoin has actually become apparent and could be single digit prices by the end of the year. trying to tell people bears on here would be suspicious of a bitstamp hack is beyond retarded. The criminals and scammers are the permabulls trying to sell people the story of the 'cheap coins' and how bitcoin is going to take over the world when it's clearly not. Nice try OP If riding with the theft makes fortune for you, then please do it. We don't want to morally blame you, because there is no bottomline on human nature. |
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