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141  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Never say die to Bitcoin on: October 19, 2018, 01:31:54 PM
For those who say that Bitcoin is dead then it is futile and useless. I think there are still many things that are far more important.
Because if you look at the situation that exists then Bitcoin is still worth it and there are still many people who use Bitcoin.
This has become a benchmark that Bitcoin will continue to exist and is needed by many people in conducting financial transactions.
142  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money on a long-term period on: October 19, 2018, 01:08:23 PM
when you make a long-term investment you must prepare your patience and also your mentality because imagine if your case goes in and invests when the price of bitcoin is $20k and currently the price of bitcoin is $6k, I am sure you will feel very depressed because you have lost so far when you invest you have to wait for the right moment when prices start falling, don't invest when prices are high.
Yes, it's one of the things that really needs attention. Patience will determine whether we can deal with all the conditions and situations that exist. Basically a long-term investment must definitely go through various difficult things. Now this is the reason why patience and emotional control can determine different outcomes. When we are more patient, we can think about being able to reach and make the best decisions.
143  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: mengapa setiap Exchange baru yang hadir selalu melakukan ICO. on: October 19, 2018, 12:47:52 PM
saya ingin bertanya mengapa setiap Exchange baru yang hadir selalu melakukan ICO. bukankah tanpa melakukan ICO mereka sudah bisa beroperasi. lalu untuk apa sebenar nya token mereka ?

dan saya lihat dulu sebelum ICO populer Market - market Exchange yang baru rilis tidak memiliki token Utility.

bagaimana dengan pendapat kalian. mangapa melaksanakan ICO begitu penting untuk sebuah proyek yang memiliki konsep market Exchange. 
Pada dasarnya mereka mencoba untuk mendapatkan modal dalam mengoperasikan exchange yang mereka miliki . Bukan hanya exchange saja , hampir semua project di dunia mata uang digital maka membutuhkan ICO pada saat ini . Mereka semua mencoba untuk menarik investor karena untuk membangun sebuah project tidak membutuhkan biaya yang sedikit . Dengan mendapatkan modal maka tentu hal ini dapat membuat potensi project tersebut semakin teruji dan kesuksesan project dapat semakin dekat . Modal adalah hal yang penting , sehingga di dunia mata uang digital maka investor adalah salah satu element penting .
144  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I fail in trading on: October 18, 2018, 11:43:45 PM
Failure to trade is normal. We must continue to try to trade because when we participate more in every situation we will have experience. Experience is important in trading and I think the contribution of experience can reach 50 percent in determining success for us. Then knowledge will affect 30 percent and the last is luck which is in the range of 20%. So failure should not be regretted, we must continue to try and practice the experiences and skills we have. A successful trader is a trader who starts with various failures that train him to have the ability.
145  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN'S VALUE WILL INCREASE ONCE ALL 21M BTC ARE MINED...SO HOLD YOUR BTC! on: October 18, 2018, 11:21:19 PM
Many people are scared that the price of bitcoin can never rise above 15k again but i disagree with this. The total number of bitcoin is 21M and currently about 16.9M has been mined already. Don't forget that, currently some online marketing platforms (Amazon & Ebay), institutions (UNICEF) now accept bitcoin as another mode of payment aside Electronic payment and fiat currency. The demand of bitcoin will increase with time as more institutions decide to embrace cryptocurrencies(bitcoin) as a payment method. As the demand starts to increase then you can be rest assured that the value of bitcoin will also increase. This is the future folks, don't be scared by the trend of the market and sell cheap because Green days are coming!

I am also very optimistic that Bitcoin can get a bigger market share. There have been many companies and institutions that support the use of Bitcoin, although it is not too significant but this is a positive value that helps increase public confidence in Bitcoin. HOLD is a good choice, as we know that currently the price of Bitcoin is in a fairly cheap range so this is an opportunity to be able to buy a lot of Bitcoin and then we sell it much higher in the future.
146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why should governments accept Crypto currencies? on: October 18, 2018, 11:16:55 PM
I think indeed all governments in the world must accept the digital currency, because digital currencies like Crypto are innovations in the present century. Humans on this earth are already very modern in everything using digital when they travel wherever they are not free from gadgets. So a government that has not received Bitcoin like in my country, please accept bitcoin as a legal medium of exchange. Because this is the future.
Yes, it is true that crypto is an innovation and has so many advantages that it is suitable for use by many people in the world. We must immediately abandon traditional transactions because in order to face this more sophisticated era, we must be able to maximize the existing system.
147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How will the Crypto market end in 2018? on: October 17, 2018, 12:29:58 PM
How will the Crypto market end in 2018? According to experts, the market is expected to explode in 2018. But I still find them gloomy today. How are your predictions?  Huh Huh Huh
until now no one can know and predict for sure and precisely I think if we look at last year at the end of the year prices and developments have increased quite rapidly that can make us confident and have the patience to invest crypto currencies will rise rapidly
There are no predictable situations. Everything happens so fast and sometimes market conditions cannot be controlled. The market situation will always change and it will indeed be a characteristic of the crypto world. Increase and decrease are the main factors influencing the crypto movement. 2018 is not a good year, but we must be optimistic that every day there will always be positive changes that occur.
148  Other / Off-topic / Re: What Makes Bitcoin So Special? on: October 17, 2018, 12:22:30 PM
Bitcoin will always be special because Bitcoin is the first digital currency and also has a very large market share at this time. So it's not unusual that Bitcoin's popularity is very high. Many people have realized that Bitcoin is a driver for the development of crypto at this time. Maybe we will get a different situation when Bitcoin doesn't exist, but Bitcoin has changed everything and is now a big part of the cryptocurrency system in the world.
149  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can I make passive daily income with trading? on: October 16, 2018, 11:48:01 PM
Yes day trading is theonly way l know to have income now.To all small timers like me l only hope now for my income to day trade to survive the needs of my family.I thank a lot because l discover this to provide the needs of my kids.It's just a little income but can help my kids needs.
I'm not sure you can cover your family's needs with trading days that only start with small capital, this is an old thread that seems at that time the market is increasing, not sure. But for now I'm not sure you can start with just $100 to get a good profit every day. This year's market isn't good enough, so how can you do that?
Actually the opportunity to do Trading is a good thing. Very open opportunities to be able to get income that can meet the costs of everyday life. In fact, many people have experienced success when they trade. Even the money produced can be far more than people who work in the real world. So the opportunity is huge and let's trade and be a part of success !!
150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Addiction Stories! on: October 16, 2018, 11:16:58 PM
I got a friend who can't live without gambling even for a day,he is much older than me and he is working in a company and getting salary to cover his life expenses but he got the desire to be a richer person so he tr gambling everyday and he hoping that someday he will be a millionare but he is just losing all his hard earned money.
That is a wrong thought. In fact, today many people experience destruction in their lives when deciding to play gambling. Many sad stories when someone tells about gambling games. Wealth is not a thing that can be obtained from a fortune, wealth and success is achieved from the hard work of the person. So a very influential gambling from luck can never make someone successful !!!! Please understand the risk and when we can avoid gambling games we can get closer to a bright future.
151  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will become of Bitcoin if the price keeps falling? on: October 16, 2018, 11:09:49 PM
What will become of Bitcoin if the price keeps falling?
Prices went down from the start of this year: https://www.coinranker.net/cryptocurrency/bitcoin


If the price of Bitcoin decreases, the level of confidence in crypto also clearly decreases. This is an indicator of how the decline caused a decrease in the level of trust. As what we do is that when we trust a coin the price will increase. So what we have to do is continue to increase transactions using Bitcoin and it will definitely increase the price of Bitcoin.

The decline in Bitcoin prices will always occur and all we can do is try to reduce the impact and try to maintain the stability of Bitcoin prices.
152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China can destroy bitcoin on: October 16, 2018, 10:50:03 PM
very interesting when we hear that academics from Princeton University and academics from the University of Florida have concluded that China has the potential to threaten stability, internet infrastructure, security and bitcoin development.

in the world of mining, China dominates using ASIC vendors. China controls mining hashrate, so they affect the bitcoin protocol.

Is there a solution to stop that potency  ?
China will always have a big impact. When China supported Crypto, the development of Crypto would increase and when China did not support Crypto, its influence on Crypto would deteriorate. This is unavoidable because China has a very large market share and this is always the case for every country that has great capability and influence. China currently dominates mining and this has a big impact on energy sustainability and usually the government will determine what they value far better.
153  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is this the end of the Bitcoin?? on: October 15, 2018, 02:41:40 PM
Bitcoin is volatile because its market is still small (market cap, daily volumes, liquidity, etc.). You can't drop $1M worth of bitcoins in the market without heavily fluctuating the price (and maybe even creating a panic sell). Also bitcoin (and cryptocurrencies market, in general) is still sensitive to bad news, regulations, tax laws, FUD, etc—most markets are. And due to being a decentralised currency/store of value, its price is perceived by investors (i,e,. 'Intrinsic value'). I don't think completely eliminating the volatility nature of bitcoin is possible

It's true that we cannot eliminate the volatility of Bitcoin. Volatility will always occur and this is the hallmark of Bitcoin.
people who say that Bitcoin will die are people who don't have a future, they just think about bad things and they don't try to think better !!!

We should as Bitcoin users support the continued use of Bitcoin.
Because with all of our support, Bitcoin can survive and try to move to a much better thing.
154  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: the benefits of managing bitcoin on: October 15, 2018, 02:03:20 PM
what do you think if bitcoin is managed well by a country?
Well, it will make bitcoin more common among the resident and the price will be higher than now. Because if it is managed by a country, it is legitimate, so people will tend to use it. I think if it's really happen, bitcoin may become like USD, a currency that accepted by any country.
Yes, Bitcoin can be a currency that has fantastic value. When crypto can be managed properly by a country, the coin opportunity can survive and circulate very well. I am waiting for various decisions made by the government, because with this kind of thing the development of crypto can increase rapidly.
155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ALTCOINS going green! on: October 15, 2018, 01:41:54 PM
Altcoins have a very difficult situation now, for a time it starts looking like a stability but then market falls again...for me it is becoming really strong to trust that green numbers.

Yes right, even though it's currently green but can't guarantee it can continue to green, there are always stories about scam projects that make the market feel difficult to recover and this is different from the conditions of the previous year.
There will always be changes. We can't ensure that Altcoin prices will always experience positive movement.
If you look at the price movements of one of the altcoins, Etherum, then we might be confident because the price is increasing today.
But this will not apply at any time, every time there will always be changes and our task is to utilize every change and momentum that occurs.
156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto down trend market on: October 15, 2018, 01:10:30 PM
All the major currencys are down. What's your opinion on the upcoming market situation?

The thing that we should be thinking is to do not lose our hope in the Crypto industry, The market value of such currencies may fall but there is always a chance to gain and reign again in the future. We should believe the power of Cryptos, its potential to rise and become the best currency in the world.
For me, Bitcoin is used as a base currency on most cryptocurrency markets. Altcoins' price are always based on Bitcoin. When Bitcoin goes down, the coins decrease because it reduces the confidence of the entire market. When Bitcoin goes up, people sell their Altcoins.
In essence, we don't experience panic because it will only make the situation worse. Believe in Crypto because then Crypto can get positive sentiments. When we put pressure on it is likely that the price will decrease. So think as well as possible and give a positive image to Crypto so that the crypto development will improve.
157  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: October 13, 2018, 04:28:58 AM
dan terjadi lagi cryptocurrenci khususnya bitcoin kembali anjlok, anjlok sekitar 4% diangka $6200an. Entah ada hal buruk apa yang terjadi lagi, bisa anljlok lumayan seperti ini. semoga segera ada kabar baik sehingga bitcoin bisa naik kembali.
Kita tunggu saja pada tanggal 26 Oktober nanti gan, dimana pada tanggal tersebut pengajuan Bitcoin ETF akan kembali di periksa oleh SEC, semoga kali ini SEC mau menerima pengajuan tersebut sehingga bisa dipastikan harga Bitcoin akan meningkat drastis kalau itu diterima.
berharap saja bisa keterima gan, soalnya harga malah semakin buruk ini, etherium saja harganya sudah dibawah $200, akan sangat bahaya jika bitcoin turun dibawah $6000, bisa bisa harga makin longsor dengan cepat. kalau ada kabar baik yang bisa mendobrak saya yakin harga koin bakalan bisa membaik lagi.
Hal ini memang telah membuat kepanikan bagi banyak orang dan jangan sampai Bitcoin kembali ditolak karena jika hal itu terjadi maka harga Bitcoin bisa saja mengalami penurunan lagi . Recovery harga saat ini cukup sulit terjadi sehingga kita semua harus berharap bahwa SEC bisa memberikan hasil yang terbaik . Harga cukup stabil dan jangan sampai ada penurunan lagi , kita sebenarnya memerlukan kestabilan dibandingkan perubahan harga yang cepat .
158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will go up like last year? on: October 13, 2018, 04:05:24 AM
What do you think? Bitcoin will grow like last year until it reaches about $ 20,000? Or fall below $ 10,000?
I personally still believe that someday bitcoin will increase higher than last year. I don't know when it will happen because I can't predict it, at least we have great expectations and remain patient to achieve these expectations come true. It doesn't matter the price that continues to fall so far because I will only holding and continue to hold with patience as well as high expectations.
We must be patient in dealing with conditions like this because things like this will always happen. Price changes will never stop and for all of us who become investors, using good momentum is something that must be done. The price of Bitcoin cannot be predicted correctly, but seeing the development and increasing number of Bitcoin users, I have a high sense of optimism that the price of Bitcoin will likely increase at the end of the year. We wait for what will happen because Bitcoin always gives a surprise.
159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How does Bitcoin affect other Crypto? on: October 13, 2018, 04:00:21 AM
I have recently been into altcoin trading. I just want to know, does the price of bitcoin affect the price of other cryptocurrencies as well? How? I really want to know. I have noticed that ever since the bitcoin price pumped up and reached 4,000 USD, the price of the altcoins had gone really really low. I almost lost my invesment due to this sudden drop. Does bitcoin price have something to do with this?
Bitcoin has a tremendous impact on other crypto movements. This is because Bitcoin has such a great power. The value and movement of bitcoin will definitely change the price of altcoins. This is something that cannot be avoided. As long as Bitcoin becomes a financial system that has a very large market share, Bitcoin will have the majority of the power available.
160  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchains will create a better world on: October 11, 2018, 03:28:04 PM
Blockchain is one of the best systems ever in the world, Blockchain can maintain security and also increase speed.
I feel very confident that if some important sectors in the world implement blockchain then the world will be much better.
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