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141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2016, 03:16:55 AM

Are all zero fee transactions included in Litecoin, Dash, monero, etherium?  Bitcoin is losing market share because competitors are underpricing us. 

I'm sure they'd be ever so excited to receive any actual transactions regardless of fees.

Whell, at least they got a monero logo placed on the top thread of both r/btc and r/bitcoin for most of today... nice work iCE.  Undecided
142  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2016, 01:42:48 AM

Good ol' insightful Bram...






Dude's ego dismissed it at single digits. Now he wants to join forces with BS to control it at $430...

What a douche.
143  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 25, 2016, 12:35:30 AM
F2Pool defects from the Blockstream-Suicide-Pact... bitcoin UP.
144  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / f2pool not supporting roundtable was Re: 「魚池」BTC:270 Phash/s - LTC:500 Ghash/s - New Server in U.S. stratum-us.f2pool.com on: February 24, 2016, 11:18:21 PM
inb4 deletion

Who cares if Adam Back signed as Blockstream President or not? It seemed pretty clear to everyone that this was a meeting for Blockstream and the top mining pools to come to an agreement. The bigger concern, for me, is that everyone signed on to a (maybe) HF capacity bump 1.5 years out into the future, while we are hitting new transaction records right now.

Bitcoin "consensus" doesn't/shouldn't happen at an 18hr meeting in HK organized by Samson Mow.

Hardforks, yes, even "contentious" ones, are the mechanism by which Bitcoin is to upgrade itself. The only consensus mechanism in Bitcoin was outlined by satoshi:



Yes, a "contentious" hard fork could be a scary time for the market, as it involves a large amount of uncertainty. But, for many of us, it is not more scary/dangerous than squandering our utility and first mover advantage in a cloud of paralysis, stalling, and indecision.

Once again, not surprised that threats of PoW change start getting tossed around when someone steps out of line... "I'll make him an offer he can't refuse."
145  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 06:12:14 AM
146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 05:42:00 AM
im buying another 2000$ worth tomorrow if price still low, and my bids dont fill overnight.
just saying...

147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 03:21:58 AM
should html do everything? or should javascript exist?

dont get me started about how poorly thought out all these internet techs are.

these techs all evolved in there own way, and where all smashed to together to give us the internet we have today

html5 is trying hard to consolidate the horrific mess that was created

I worked as a web dev, trust me its a hell of a mess out there

JS php flash etc its all crap!

whats really amazing is that it works! unless you use IE then your shit out of luck.

I think that was an attempt at metaphorical profundity adam, or maybe the chicken bones fell funny for me. A better metaphor in my mind would be the transportation system of a major city.

You have highways, and you have busses that (more efficiently) use that highway.

It's unlikely, but say the roads are toll roads, operated by a group of companies. The busses are also private, but run by one company, however, they are willing to freely offer the basis of their model to other companies.

Here's where it gets really weird. The bus company are also the civil engineers for the road system. The toll road company builds and maintains them, but the bus company draws up the plans.

Bus company just finished a meeting with the toll road operators, and convinced them that 1 lane (each way) highway is the solution, for now, and maybe in 18 months... 2.5 (motorcycles?) lanes will be acceptable to the ecological health of the area around the current 1 lane highway.

The whole thing somewhat breaks down when competing road systems and transport systems enter the fray without the same barriers of the physical world (see adam's ether).… Even without them, we've already tangled ourselves in a whole nest of crossed incentives and pitfalls…

Something tells me the toll road operators will wake up eventually, but timing is everything, and they risk a competing operator eating their lunch as tolls rise, traffic waits go up, and people flee to other systems.

@bargainbin
next thing you know they'll be mining classic blocks with reckless abandon
148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 01:47:49 AM


Shocked
149  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 01:10:56 AM
Big blocktards troll fest round the clock... Who's paying?

It's a Green Beret op, involving a number of sleeper agents that hung around these fora for years. We "activated" when blocks started being regularly full.

To answer your question:
The checks say DoD

I heard rumors about GCHQ having a sister op, but can't confirm.
150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 12:52:09 AM
if i was bitcoins CEO
I'd sell all of you a "second layer solution"
but the second layer would be centralized.

LN naturally gravitates to the hub and spoke model due to economic and convenience incentives...

tl;dr

You're late, highly technical minds beat you to the punch.
151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 24, 2016, 12:09:50 AM
I have another question for smallblockers: Won't higher fees make it harder to mix coins and remain anonymous?

You think smallblockers spend their high powered central bank settlement monies?

Bitcoin is to have, to HODL.
152  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2016, 10:56:30 PM
Is that "religious artifact" embedded in polymethyl methacrylate?

What a great idea. I wonder how long before the toasted-in image begins to fade. Long enough to sell 'em on eBay I'd think.

Better yet, make an unlimited supply (just like the federal reserve).  Wink

http://www.amazon.com/Burnt-Impressions-The-Jesus-Toaster/dp/B0042QRYO8
153  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2016, 10:45:43 PM
A piece of toast with a picture of my art teacher from school!!!

Bet he couldn't paint an analogy like this, tho.

154  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2016, 10:25:59 PM
signs of war in the heavens ... or is it the blockapocalypse?
Repent!



pm luke-jr for further instructions

That's fullblocalypseTM



Hodl me?
155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2016, 08:37:20 PM
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If there is strong community support, the hard-fork activation will likely happen around July 2017.

~not tonight dear... Grin

 Grin Grin Grin

Blockstream is never to be underestimated. They literally didn't move an inch and everyone is circle jerking "the great compromise"... incredible. What a wet noodle the miners turned out to be... so much for that childish delusion I used to hold.

Watching [name redacted to protect the repentant] lose his principles for a $20 $19 $15 $1.93 relief rally was the hardest part.  Cry

GG guys... GG

156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 11:02:57 AM
Can't we make a thread called "let everyone one fight over bitcoins issues and developments" and let this one for TA and graphs about speculation?  Sad

You go first. Or was that it?  Huh
157  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 08:39:26 AM
♫"I'm Waiting For The Blocks"♪

I'm waiting for my blocks
Not enough dollars in my hand
Up to Lexington, 125
Feel sick and dirty, more dead than alive
I'm waiting for my blocks
Hey, white boy, what you doin' uptown?
Hey, white boy, you chasin' our marmot around?
Oh pardon me sir, it's the furthest from my mind
I'm just lookin' for a dear, dear friend of mine
I'm waiting for my blocks
Here he comes, he's all dressed in black
Beat up shoes and a big straw hat
He's never early, he's always late
First thing you learn is you always gotta wait I'm waiting for my blocks
Up to a Brownstone, up three flights of stairs
Everybody's pinned you, but nobody cares
He's got the bids, gives you sweet taste
Ah then you gotta split because you got no time to waste
I'm waiting for my blocks
Baby don't you holler, darlin' don't you bawl and shout
I'm feeling good, you know I'm gonna work it on out
I'm feeling good, I'm feeling oh so fine
Until tomorrow, but that's just some other time
♫I'm waiting for my blocks♩
158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 06:11:38 AM
ONE more time for good luck

Sounds great until the whole July 2017 (maybe, pinky promise) just in time for one year later than the halving, part.
I suspect another player will soon jump in and steal away all their best devs. Blockstream will go bankrupt by years end.

Not a chance. They just sold their original roadmap as a compromise... and the miners bought it, completely. If anything, they all deserve bonuses, big ones.
Only until the Chinese figure out they got duped, dump their coins, and shut down the miners after the halving leaving a full mempool that won't ever be confirmed.

Nah, that's a BJA fullblockpocalypse scenario... I don't buy it. The marginal transactions drop off/growth stalls before that point. He argues that the car will blow up... I argue that it'll maybe be on half the cylinders, but still be rolling just fine. Wouldn't be an absolute survival situation for another 2 halvings or so... but we're talking about potential... and competition.

... or assuming good faith, they just figured out through an intensive analysis session by a group of the technically most-qualified adversarial minds bashing together, the most likely best-practice, secure and expedient way to increase transaction capacity of the bitcoin system for the foreseeable future.

But spin it how you like, you have with everything else.

Marcus defers to gmax, dr back, blue matt... and independent contractor luke jr. And in good faith, determines that this is simply as fast as we can technically go... safely... fine.

I have a hard time squaring that with their interest in an off-chain provider Blockstream... we can agree to disagree.

Look, I know that we're basically locked in till mid-late 2017 now. Let me get it out of my system. I won't drone on about this for the next 18 months. I'm not married to these coins, and hell, the ones I hold on to may go up in value all the same. My sales/buys and these words are my only influence in this market... neither are earth shaking.

Allow me my catharsis...   Embarrassed
159  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 05:40:28 AM
ONE more time for good luck

Sounds great until the whole July 2017 (maybe, pinky promise) just in time for one year later than the halving, part.
I suspect another player will soon jump in and steal away all their best devs. Blockstream will go bankrupt by years end.

Not a chance. They just sold their original roadmap as a compromise... and the miners bought it, completely. If anything, they all deserve bonuses, big ones.
160  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 22, 2016, 04:27:15 AM
ONE more time for good luck

Sounds great until the whole July 2017 (maybe, pinky promise) just in time for one year later than the halving, part.
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