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So why don't you guys intervene in the talk page and revert the undo? Do I have to do it all by myself, and be (incorrectly) perceived as a "one-man show" as the SA goons refer to me?
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I think they should make a fiscal law where executives and shareholders linked with a corporation would have to pay every part of public service they use for that corporation.
Yes, that's called Anarcho-capitalism. Mmm, you're starting to convince me. I like my socialist state, but I don't like when multi-nationals corporations come here, take all benefits and get their money out. It could be interesting that if a business is a multi-national, the anarcho-capitalism apply to that business. You come here, you pay no taxes, the government send you a bill and you deal with it. It cost too much? Go elsewhere or pay your taxes like everybody else. That's really close, except there's no monopoly government. It's just a collection of service providers. Some offering competing services. Trash pickup, for instance, or road paving, phone service, etc. Either you pay, or you don't get that service. Myrkul - What happens to people in this society who can not afford a basic service? Instead of demanding that people solve your questions, why not come up with an answer yourself? Difficulty level: you are not allowed to use or advocate for aggression against nonaggressive people. Hey, statist, can't answer a question yourself without asking "will this be in the test?" (I understand that is difficulty 11 for statists, but hey, why must voluntaryists be the ones to explain every little detail about how non-aggresison works? If he is genuinenly interested in an answer to the question -- rather than idly wasting people's time with questions whose answers he will never accept -- surely he will volunteer a reasonable and workable answer. It's not rocket science.) Seriuosly, the mark of intelligence, of productivity, of decency, of rationality, of well-doing, isn't asking questions to obvious answers. It is providng answers. I have seen myrkul provide countless answers (most of which have been derided and discredited through namecalling by idiots here). How about we hold statists to their stringent standards? Or are they too cowardly to take some of their own heat? Shit, I give several hundreds of my own Bitcoins every year to people who are doing good, why the fuck should I (or any other voluntaryist) answer questions for cocksuckers who want me put in a cage for wanting to give to these causes more, and getting robbed less? How do you run a society without violence? You help, bitch. You help. That's what you do. If you think people won't help, then don't suggest sociopathic solutions to your bullshit problem. If you don't want to run a society like we all do, shut up about the fucking question, because you really don't fucking care. |
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Hate these politics guys.
You want companies to stop using tax loopholes? --> CHANGE THE FUCKING LAW.
Otherwise? --> STFU.
The people who want companies to stop using tax loopholes are entirely powerless to change the holy papers. The people who benefit from the tax loopholes (in oh so many ways) who are elected by the abovementioned chumps, have absolutely no interest, desire, or incentive to change the holy papers. Democracy. It does the societal cancer good. |
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Statists fumbling to provide responsive rebuttals to arguments. Entertaining.
/s
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I have restored the vandalized deletion of Wikipedia there.
This page is important because people like to know what the highest-valued currency is, to the point of asking Google via voice on their Android phones that very question.
To any Wikipedia editors reading this: Stay alert and revert any vandalism removing that information from the page.
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In a sentence what ppl are fearful of in this model is
Uneven administration of justice. Unpredictable and arbitrary outcomes.
But to the extent that our own 'democratic' representative governments deliver unpredictable and arbitrary outcomes at the cost of taxpayers other models seem appealing.
It's funny how people say "I am terrified that in Ancap, we won't have even administration of justice, unpredictable and arbitrary outcomes, <insert fear mongering here>", all the while they are blithely unaware that that's what they already have. Anyone who thinks that the statist "justice" system exists for their protection and security obviously hasn't tried to use the "justice" system yet. |
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Actually, I'd call what he did conceding my point, and then attempting to make another one.
That's exactly what happened, in reality. He just didn't openly concede your point. At this point, I usually stop people, thanking them for conceding, delineate a clear distinction between their former (now-defeated) argument and the new argument, and then ask them to openly concede, or else I won't address their new argument. That way makes it very clear what just happened. |
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I assume companies sell a product or service and they receive compensation for.
Exactly. And do these products or services not contribute to the general welfare of the country? They do. But I also add that this did not happen is a bubble or vacuum. They took advantage of that stable environment that provided them the opportunity to profit. From that profit, the company is responsible to pay a just portion is taxes that go to maintain that environment and infrastructure. If they wish to maintain it, yes, and given that it's how they were able to provide the goods or services in the past, and presumably how they would be able to do so in the future, why would they not wish to maintain it? Since they clearly would wish to maintain it, what purpose is there to forcing them to maintain it? Myrkul, I wanna share something with you, that happened in this interaction. I want to call your attention on how you let Dalkore change the topic. He had to answer your question, so you could continue make the argument that you were going to make. In answering your question, he said this: They do. But I also add that this did not happen is a bubble or vacuum. They took advantage of that stable environment that provided them the opportunity to profit. From that profit, the company is responsible to pay a just portion is taxes that go to maintain that environment and infrastructure.
...thereby changing the topic from the point you were trying to make, to a different argument to support the criminals we call "State". He threw you a red herring, and you (you all, really) bit. He managed to derail the previous topic right out of the conversation, and gain control of the conversation again. People: don't bite; stay on target. Realize his manipulation for what it is: an attempt to put you in the defensive. |
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Fro. 12 to 3? Great progress. It took me a year to go from 1.5 pack a day to only ecigs, but I finally did it and I only use the ecig.
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Once you see the irrationality, the violence and the hostility in statists, it is impossible to unsee it. This is exactly why one does not return from an cap.
I imagine abolitionists also could not stop seeing the Negro as a human being, once they did.
Ditto for anyone who was a Christian/Muslim who turns atheist. You can't can't *force* yourself to believe in Santa Claus Yup. |
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Yes is does, the nation you live in matters. If you don't care about it at all then your a poor example of its citizenry. I am American and I care about the general welfare of other Americans. I also disagree with our current policies and I do what I can not to give me consent to it. But I am still American and care about its people. I also care about other nations and hope they feel the same way about their nation as well. Under those terms I hope we can continually finds ways to peacefully works together and trade.
I guess we just have different values. I care about the human race no matter where they come from, not just some group of people living in some imaginary boundaries. Of course I care about the general welfare of my neighbor, someone I know, more than someone in Asia that I do not know. I can't really say that I care about the general welfare of someone I don't know living in California more so than someone I don't know living in the EU. They are both human. From an economic perspective the poorest people in America are richer than the middle class/richest people in many other countries. So, if you think time/money will help educate/clothe/feed people in poorer countries, then every $1/minute you spend helping the poor in other countries will give those people a lot more value than it would if you spent the money/time on poor people in the USA. So in effect you are helping the human race more. Brilliantly true. Also congrats on the new biz. |
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States do not 'outcompete' the individual. Competition is, you do X, I do X, the best one wins. But that is not what states do -- what states do is, you do X, the state threatens you with ruin or death, game over.
People who use aggression to get what they want aren't 'competing'. They are just being malevolent. Malevolent people don't compete --- they just shoot you it you tell them 'no'.
Only a sociopathic person who wants organized aggression to take place would euphemize it as 'competition'. Like only a rapist would euphemize rape as 'lovemaking'.
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Hey dude, how many Bitcoin do you want for your Marxism with robots?  |
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Wow, that thread is great! I think this is my favorite comment: Are you kidding me? Is this thread filled with as many BitCoin promoters as it feels like? Pretty much every upvoted comment/thread looks like it was planned out. I don't know why, but something feels really fishy about this whole thing. I don't know if it is good or bad but rigging a reddit should be quite easy. Consider an issue tracker that treats each reply to one reddit as an issue. The interested community could mark issues as resolved as soon as a sufficiently good answer was given. This way a far smaller group can answer far more posts without all having to read all posts. A more generic approach would be a browser plugin that allows me to mark reddit users as competent/my team/insiders and the plugin automatically collapses all posts that were already dealt with by a marked users. Something like that could be built as a RES plugin. |
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The EnoughPaulSpam crew of professional astroturfers raided the thread and buried the comments of pretty much anyone saying factual things about Bitcoin, with 40+ down votes each comment. They also introduced and up voted their usual FUD and disinformation. They are quite the destructive cointelpro force, have been since the Digg days.
But it was one day too late. Har har.
However, one comment at the top which contained some concern trolling did get visibility. Perhaps next time such a situation can be dealt with more, ahem, effectively.
All in all,
Well done my fellow redditors.
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4chan PASS?
Don't they mean 4chan GOLD ACCOUNT?
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FYI: Cunicula is also in my ignore list for initiating gratuitous and unprovoked personal attacks against me and others in this board. You should not trust him.
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Ignore the troll guys. He is probably one of the SA goons masochistic enough to come here and witness how the Bitcoin he hates is becoming more and more successful.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, the you win.
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