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141  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: cashout or wait till the end? on: May 10, 2024, 06:40:07 PM
You are right but there are things you need to know, it's not everyone that's gambling to make money, some gamblers are gambling because they need to be entertained, some gambled because they need something to keep them busy like to ease their stress while many gamblers because they need money. Those who gamble to make money believes that the ones they see are the ones they have, when they sees any little money from their bets as long as the money is a little bit big for them they will cashout but it's only the ones that's somehow greedy that waits for the whole games to end before they cash out. I believed that those who waits for the whole gambles to end are not just greedy but they are somehow good in risk taking.
With so many gamblers needing money, that's certainly a serious problem, but if they gamble with the aim of making large amounts of money, that won't happen, and I don't think they'll be able to accept it when the money they bet on is lost. In fact, if they want to relieve stress or want to keep themselves busy, it's better to do something else that doesn't have the risk of serious negative impacts. because in my opinion gambling has risks that can influence them and maybe make them emotional, especially if they gamble with the aim of making money.
When you have won, it's best to just stop, by cashing in the winnings you've got and going to spend them with whatever you want. If you still want to gamble, it's actually no problem because that's your own wish, just don't regret it when you win. If you get it, you'll lose it again. It's best to think about it first and consider what you're going to do first, don't let the final result make us regret it and make us unable to accept the final result that occurs.
142  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can we help beginners not to get addicted on: May 10, 2024, 06:21:22 PM
We can only warn new gamblers not to gamble too much.  But even then if they gamble excessively and become addicted to gambling, it will be entirely his fault and he will have to take full responsibility for it. someone new to gambling doesn't understand the horrors of gambling, so no matter how hard you try to convince them of its downsides, they will avoid you and continue gambling until they are seriously hurt. so I don't think that we will be able to cure gambling addicts no matter they are new or old.
it's the same as reminding or advising him, which is good. because there's no harm in giving advice or even reminding them not to gamble too much which could cause them to experience serious negative effects. It's true that when they become completely addicted to gambling, it's their own fault because they gamble inappropriately. . and they should be able to accept the risks and bad impacts because they are based on their own actions, not from other people's encouragement.
I think that for beginners they will not realize that gambling is quite dangerous, because it can make them forget that they have been influenced by gambling. I also believe that beginners who are new to gambling will likely only think about winning, while they will ignore the risk of losing which will occur more often. So it is not surprising that the number of people addicted to gambling is always increasing. When they become addicted to gambling, it will be difficult to cure them, because their thinking has been influenced by gambling, which can make them only focus on gambling.
143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do some people hide to gamble on: May 10, 2024, 06:00:05 PM
As long as you can balance everything for sure things will be okay, though I get your point in terms of other people's opinions as even we are already in this modern era there are still people who affects us when they criticize whatever we are doing, gambling from other's perspectives seem not acceptable and with that bad side there are gamblers choose to keep their participation secretly.

They just don't want to answer anything and instead they just wanted to enjoy dicreetly without anything to explain about their gambling participations.
It's true, if we like gambling, we have to be able to balance everything well so there won't be any serious problems with the gambling we do, even if the gambling only ends in defeat. Everyone has a different point of view, it's not surprising that there are people who like to show off their gambling because many people might want to see it, especially when they win at gambling. However, in my opinion, there are quite a few people who gamble by keeping their gambling a secret.
Also, I think that those who gamble secretly, they are quite good gamblers, because by keeping their gambling a secret, I think they don't want the gambling they do to be known to many people, even though they win at gambling, it doesn't mean they have to brag about it in front of many people. but rather enjoy it quietly. That's a pretty good choice in my opinion, in fact I think it's better to hide the gambling he does.
144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction causes loss on: May 10, 2024, 05:40:27 PM
as long as the person is okay with losing money while gambling in an emotional state, I think that's right. but as far as I know, most gamblers are not just a hobby. They think gambling is a place to get rich quickly or just multiply the money they have.
That is why, as a gambler, you must be able to control your emotions so that you don't lose too much when playing. that way they won't be frustrated because of their defeat.
That's the initial problem that will make them addicted to gambling and experience big losses, thinking that gambling is a way to make money quickly. What's more, everyone of course wants to get rich quickly by having a lot of money, so gambling is their choice as a shortcut to that. You can become rich, but this assumption is of course not true, because gambling usually ends in defeat. remembering that gambling is a game developed by the host whose goal is to make a profit, not share the profits with each player, so a wrong goal like that will only make them fall deeper into problems.
What you say is correct, indeed we have to be able to control ourselves when gambling, including our own emotions, which must be controlled well so that we don't get carried away by emotions that can make us take rash actions that can even carry big risks. because with emotions that control us and we gamble, it can affect our mentality when we experience defeat due to the gambling we do.
145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: May 10, 2024, 05:22:06 PM
We do need to look at the environmental situation first in talking, who is talking, the intention and other things that might have a negative or positive impact on us, if we can already see it we can take a stand on what to do in this kind of conversation, because after all talking about gambling is a sensitive thing, so only certain people can be listened to the rest we can deflect the conversation.

sometimes if there are people who want to explore ourselves and have other goals, we are better off if we are given advice or asked, basically humans will accept advice delivered well and go into our logic.
Apart from speaking, of course we also have to be able to adapt in our actions, if we really like gambling and do gambling in an environment that is not happy with gambling, maybe it could bring about conflict, looking at the environmental conditions is important, don't let us take actions that could give rise to conflict with each other. . like by speaking what you said, of course we also have to be able to adjust to that. Not everyone likes gambling, so it's possible that there are people who don't want to discuss or hear gambling talk. But if you both like gambling then the conversation can continue.
Of course giving advice is not a bad thing, because in my opinion everyone needs advice from other people, even with suggestions. However, if we advise other people, it is not certain that our advice will be accepted by them, but that is not a problem, because at least some advice has been given.
146  Economy / Economics / Re: Also consider your mental State of health while investing for wealths. on: May 10, 2024, 01:47:40 PM
I guess we just need to balance everything, it was just really depressing especially when we talk about money and financial things, there was anxiety especially if you saw some of your colleagues or college friends already doing well and your you felt like you not doing enough and still stagnant doesn't have any direction on your life, which is really frustrating and depressing. We always wanted to grind do business hassle and forget about our mental health I guess it is just very common for everyone.

In my opinion what we need is to balance our lives, like a work-life balance, I mean it's possible to have such good work, extra income, or create a business and at the same time have some time for yourself, or rest, have a vacation something like that, I mean it is all very stressful, and everyone just needed a rest something like that, do socialize, go out. Just putting everything on work is probably going to work but as mention, it wasn't going to be healthy, especially in the long term, you might probably earn a huge amount in the long run, but wasn't going to be worth it, we just need to systemize our time and  make everything worth its time, If you can finish your work at 6 hours try to finish it on 4 hours something like that.
The perspective of pursuing wealth is very unwise, because people like this will prioritize expectations over reality. Just because you have a target of pursuing wealth, you end up dreaming as if you have already achieved it. A mental condition that is not ready to face the harsh reality leads him to a position that is quite 50% crazy. Maybe it's good to have a target of becoming rich, but we also need to be wise in balancing many factors such as health because health is the main thing. There's no point in getting rich if you end up getting stressed and ending up in rehab. There are many cases of investors and business people who are now homeless, experiencing mental disorders or can be said to be crazy. For this reason, the placement of investment and business portions must be balanced by preparing for risks.
147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: While placing bet what comes your mind on: May 10, 2024, 07:10:34 AM
The only thing that comes to my mind is that "I hope that my bet was right and that I would get to make some money betting on this team and it would really suck if I lose right now because I don't like losing my money when I risked betting it on this team." That's the gist of what comes to my mind but that's only at the time when I'm in the middle of selecting the team and betting, after that, I'm just hoping that I did the right pick and then I forget about it and then do some other stuff. I can't be letting my mind wander only on betting because that's what makes someone a little bit obsessed and addicted to it.
That is the goal of most gamblers, of course they must have thoughts like that, because that is their main goal for the gambling they do. Well, if you don't like losing money or aren't ready for it, you shouldn't just gamble. Just listen to the saying that says "prevention is better than cure" you have to be careful when gambling, especially if you are not ready to lose the money you bet, it can be an incentive for yourself to do something that is more risky.
We should be able to accept that we will lose money gambling that is certain, thinking that we are not prepared to lose the money we gamble can possibly get us into big trouble, in my opinion there is even a possibility that it will make us addicted to gambling. and of course that is not the purpose of gambling. No one wants to be addicted to gambling, only me. Most of those who are addicted to gambling are caused by wrong thinking.
148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people lose in gambling and still go ahead and bet more? on: May 10, 2024, 06:49:46 AM
However I don't think gamblers that doesn't gamble to be entertained or for money are much because it's hard to hear that someone decided to gamble because he/she want to keep him self busy. Well there might be gamblers like that but I don't think that those set is of gamblers are much. People who gambles for money are many and it's only the rich gamblers that gamblers for entertainment. Many of use on this forum believes that the rich gamblers to be entertained and the poor gambles to make money so, my question is, is it the ones that are not rich and are not poor that gambles just to while away time?
I don't think it makes sense if their goal in gambling is to keep themselves busy, why not do other things which clearly have a lot more to do and are more useful than gambling. It is very likely that the number of gamblers who continue to put money into gambling even though they have lost are those who gamble with the aim of making money, with a goal like that that makes them not give up even though they have lost and lost money gambling. Incidents like this are no longer strange, because they have happened a lot in my opinion.
Indirectly, in my opinion, they do spend time, but with style. Gambling which is said to have rewards if you are lucky is an attraction for the gamblers who play. In fact, they don't just spend time but also spend money. With those who are rich of course their aim may be for entertainment which can be said to be a waste of time and money, the same is true for those who are poor, the aim of gambling is to make money, and that is the same as spending time and money. . It's just that here the perception is different for the rich and the poor.
149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much of my salary should I use to gamble on: May 10, 2024, 06:28:36 AM
I don't suggest allocating any percentage for gambling. To me, it is good to have patience and meet the month's needs. Further, if you've got anything in excess, you can spend 5% to the maximum. If you find yourself on the winning side, you should have the self-control to quit or stop the session for the day, week, or month. This practice will help you have a better gambling experience without big losses.

There are people who wait for a month to receive their salary in their account, and soon after it gets credited, they start to gamble. Some find luck and stop at the right time and take an exit, whereas most don't win and lose their entire salary. After losing it, they continue to borrow from friends and family to meet the month's needs. This shouldn't happen.
I think that 5% is enough when this month's needs are met. What's more, of course we need income every day, whether it's to buy snacks or something else, even though gambling will definitely end in disappointing results, we must be able to control ourselves so as not to gamble excessively, such as by putting money back into gambling. The main thing is that we have to pay attention to our needs first, don't ignore our own needs for things that have uncertain results.
when they find luck, they should be able to stop by taking advantage of the luck they have obtained, don't waste the luck they have obtained. with so many of them experiencing the loss of a certain amount of money, we should be aware of this, so that we can take advantage of the luck that has given us victory. or will suffer the same fate as many people who lose money.
150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 09, 2024, 04:52:41 PM
The most interesting thing is going to be seeing Bologna in the Champions League next season. I assume they wouldn't mess up on the last three weeks.  Grin

I have checked their Champions League history. I have seen they were a part of this tournament in 1960s the last time. The name of the tournament wasn't even "Champions League" those times.  Tongue  Therefore it is going to be a really meaningful success for Bologna. But can they do well in the Champions League? Their current squad doesn't look very promising to progress more. However the tournament format is also going to change so let's see what they can do.
They must be able to ensure that in the last 3 matches they will play they will not slip up. The reason is that if they achieve bad results then maybe they won't be able to be in the Champions League next season. They are only 4 points away from AS Roma who are now in 6th place, with 3 remaining matches there is still a possibility that AS Roma will be able to catch up with them if Bologna suffers at least 2 defeats.
Assuming they will successfully compete in the Champions League next season. I hope they can perform well and be able to compete there, don't let them just be a complementary team. They have to prepare as well as possible so they can talk a lot. But before that happens, they must first focus on the last 3 matches they will play, they must focus on getting points in those matches to enable them to go to the Champions League to accompany Inter Milan and AC Milan who have confirmed that they will be there.
151  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: May 09, 2024, 04:37:21 PM
Who would have thought that Lille would lose narrowly when they hosted Lyon at home and that was not a small number of goals, with a total of 7 goals scored. Of course, this match was very hot and Lille could not block Lyon's onslaught of attacks which resulted in many goals. On the other hand, Lille should be appreciated considering that they reduced their goal margin so that they did not appear to have lost badly.

Well, Lille failed to continue to widen the gap, but at least one place in the top four is still very safe with a difference of 4 points from Nice so that in the next match Lille must win again if they don't want Nice to get close to them. The competition at the end of the season is worth looking forward to and with Lyon's victory it is enough to open their way to the conference league or European league.
Lyon performed extraordinary in this match, even though they couldn't score a goal in the first half and even had to be 2 goals behind, they were able to turn things around when there wasn't much time left in the match. LOSC, which was initially superior, must accept the fact that their superiority must be pursued and even reversed by their guests this time.
To be honest, I favor LOSC in this match, especially after they took the lead in the first half. Their superiority makes me think they will really win this match. However, Lyon is not that easy to give up in this match and we have seen how they were able to turn things around to make it 3-4 at the end of the match.
This result cannot bring LOSC closer to Brest, who also got a draw this week. In fact, if they can win this match then they will make their points the same as Brest's points.
152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: May 09, 2024, 04:17:47 PM
Al Akhdoud vs Al Nassr
Al Akhdoud, who are struggling to stay in the league, have taken four points from the last two weeks, but they need to play football with minimum mistakes in the remaining four weeks. Hosts Al Akhdoud host a tough opponent in this match. They will face Al Nassr, who are mathematically still in contention for the title but will finish the season in second place barring a major miracle. The visitors Al Nassr have been winning for seven weeks and will continue this streak. I think they can win this game and finish the job in the first half. Al Akhdoud may not be able to put up much resistance against a tough opponent.
I think Ronaldo, who has been scoring so many goals lately, will always finish his job in giving Al-Nassr victory, especially since he still has a target to become the top scorer in the Saudi League this season and also become the first player in the world to score 1000 goals. We know he won't give up one bit and that hope is still there to fight for so Ronaldo will still be able to do that.

Al-Akhdooud doesn't seem to have any other way than to hold Al-Nassr to a draw and even if they can, that's better than losing. Of course, defense will be Al-Akhdooud's main focus in this match and they have to do it so that it frustrates Al-Nassr's attackers to score goals.
It will be very difficult for Al Akhdoud to win or at least hold Al Nassr to a draw in this match, the difference in quality between the two teams is quite striking, so I don't think they will be able to get points in this match. Moreover, Ronaldo is in very good condition now and it is not impossible if he can score lots of goals again in this match.
I think Al Akhdoud will play with a defensive strategy, because if they play openly then the risks they will face will be much greater. There are not many options that Al Akhdoud has in this match. They will probably hope for great luck in this match, because with luck they might be able to get points. They also have to be able to get points to maintain their position so that they remain in the safe zone and are still in the Saudi Pro League for next season. However, the problem is that this will be a very difficult match for them to get points.
153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: May 09, 2024, 04:05:40 PM
At the same time we will see the match between Atalanta vs Marseille. In the first leg, Atalnta successfully held Marseille to a draw when playing away from home. Now it's Atalanta's turn to act as host. This is an advantage for them, because I think a draw in the first leg was their target, and they succeeded in getting it.
Atalanta's chances are better than Marseille's in this match, so I think they will be in the Europa League final this season. However, they should not underestimate Marseille at all, because Marseille is also very likely to give them a defeat and prevent them from being in the final.
One of them will most likely face Leverkusen in the final match, because Leverkusen are now 2 goals ahead on aggregate in the first leg at AS Roma headquarters, and now they will play in their own stadium and will get full support from the fans.
154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 09, 2024, 03:51:53 PM
Ten Hag decided to make Manchester United a young team in order to lay the foundation for future generations, it worked in Ajax, but his idea failed in the Premier League. Perhaps Casemiro can be considered an experienced player, but it seems to me that he did not integrate well into the team, and his presence does not endow the players with any experience, moreover, Casemiro is probably the record holder in the team for cards (I am exaggerating). Perhaps Ronaldo could have become the one with experience, but he decided to leave the team and perhaps he was not mistaken.
The management that Erik Ten Hag built with Manchester United can be said to have failed. The players he threw away actually performed well with other teams, and conversely the players he retained did not appear impressive. By seeing that, I concluded that there was something wrong with Erik Ten Hag in managing the squad he had.
I don't know why, but not once or twice he had a problem with a player, he immediately sold him, that's childish in my opinion. He prefers players who do what he wants. Indeed, that might be a good thing, but in my opinion it is also unhealthy too, because most likely he will do according to his own wishes, not based on the needs of the team. If Manchester United have a coach with an attitude like that then they are in big trouble in my opinion. Now I don't see Manchester United firing Erik Ten Hag, either they won't do it or they will appoint a new coach when the competition is over.
155  Economy / Economics / Re: Money is all wealth? on: May 09, 2024, 03:15:30 PM
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I will not deny your statement because the facts are true. However, this is just a matter of each person's point of view in dealing with the portion of money in their life. I mean there are some basic differences because in this world there are poor and there are rich so the way they view money will also be different. Therefore, depending on where we are placed, I am not a hypocrite that money is really needed because everything now requires money, food, drink, shelter, and so on. Everything needs money to be realized, including to create happiness. But what kind of happiness? because everyone has a different version of happiness.

As someone who already has children and a wife, we realize that in the end we have to fight for them to remain happy. Smiley
156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 09, 2024, 02:29:47 PM

he is Madrid savior god who has broken the deadlock between Vinicius and Rodrygo who failed to score several times and after Joselu and Luka Modric came on the field everything turned very interesting and the players became more enthusiastic even though they conceded early but Ancelotti believes Madrid can win and Joselu successfully used the tactics given by Ancelotti.
congratulations to my favorite team for qualifying for the final round.
I didn't expect it because Ancelotti was observing Thomas Tuhcel steps when making substitutions. That's where the unexpected thing came from bringing in Joselu, I doubted Joselu at that time but since Ancelotti did it there must be something he prepared in the attack line. Bellingham and Rodrygo were less effective because they were closely guarded. Meanwhile Vincius was enough to make Bayern Munich defense difficult many times. Vincius was able to dribble past several defenders and he had many opportunities. But the wind of the goddess Fortuna directed at Joselu who only a few minutes into the field immediately broke the deadlock when all the spectators thought it would be over. I think Madrid needs to give Joselu more time at the club. Because even though he has little playing time, when everyone else is unable to score goals, Joselu is the answer.
157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people lose in gambling and still go ahead and bet more? on: May 09, 2024, 10:07:05 AM
I think he subconsciously trying to win back all the money he lost. It appears that he may want to quit but he is still pulled by the losses and he’s always giving it one last try. I don’t know if you’ve ever been in that scenario where you simply want your money back and don’t want any interest or extra, that may be his case (depending on how much he has lost). Best you can do is advise him that he should take it slow and steady if he wants to continue, and also, gambling shouldn’t be his main source of income.

when they experience defeat there is a possibility that they will not stop, with gambling which usually ends in defeat but they gamble again to win back everything they have lost, sometimes reasoning that the defeat that has occurred is almost a win, so they think they can win. in gambling that they will do again, of course it is not a guarantee that they can win, even though in their gambling they almost won, but that doesn't mean that by gambling again they can win again. This possibility will make them addicted and experience more losses.
Because when someone is addicted, it will be difficult to stop gambling even if losses occur to him, and when he is advised or given advice not to gamble, it is also very difficult for someone who is addicted because basically every addiction will stop when his conscience has the intention. to stop.
So someone who continues to gamble and experiences defeat or losses finds it very difficult to stop because their ego or curiosity is so big that they think they will win.
158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can we help beginners not to get addicted on: May 09, 2024, 09:19:19 AM
Sending them a piece of advice is the simplest way but still, we can't expect them to follow because, at the end of the day, it was their choice and decision. In fact, many people promised themselves not to fall into addiction but unfortunately, it still happens to them.
On the other hand, saying is an easy thing to do but doing it in real is truly hard.

Addiction happens when greed and chasing are always in our minds. No matter how many people tell us the right thing to do, still fails.
Advising is indeed the method that is most often used, not even just in terms of gambling, in all matters of course advising is always there. It's true what you said, even though we have advised them, it doesn't ensure they can follow it, because once they become addicted they won't be able to easily accept advice from other people, even from their family members. unless they have an awareness of gambling which can cause them to experience greater losses when they become addicted to gambling or gamble excessively.
It's not surprising that many of them promise themselves not to fall into gambling, but it is true that gambling which has a strong attraction can make them forget the promise they already have, making them addicted to gambling and experiencing big losses. Players who cannot think clearly tend to be addicted to gambling, because their thoughts encourage them to continue gambling, but by advising them it is not wrong, at least we have given them direction.
159  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much of my salary should I use to gamble on: May 09, 2024, 09:02:35 AM
I think that whoever that is earning much amount of money or small amount of money as a salary should you have a particular amount it will use for gambling because if you don't arrange yourself well it might trigger you to make use of all the money you receive as a monthly salary to gamble that is why I do advise people have a statistics in their gambling so that there will know the particular amount they used to gamble monthly and also weekly as a monthly earner what you need to prosper in gambling is to know when you are supposed to gamble and also know how much you use to gamble neither weekly or monthly and you are not supposed to use whatever thing you receive as a salary to gamble anyone that do that it is called a foolishness
When we have a set limit on the amount of money to be used for gambling, even if it is small, there is a possibility that we can lose self-control when gambling, considering that the attraction of gambling is quite strong and can make every player lose control when gambling. So it is not surprising that there are many cases where players use quite a lot of their money to gamble. When we have a salary, it is our right to use it according to what we want, but that doesn't mean we can use it carelessly without considering it well, there are times when we have to be able to consider everything well so that there are no regrets in the end.
We should be able to make good use of the salary we have received, use it appropriately, there is nothing wrong if it is used for gambling but it is not natural if all the salary money is used for gambling. It's best to think first before acting, there are times when gambling can provide winnings that may be profitable even if we bet using a small betting amount.
160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: May 08, 2024, 06:08:10 PM
Yes that's right, I also saw a different mentality shown by Dortmund in France, it was a different aura and a different style of play, not what we usually see in domestic league matches.

I think why Dortmund didn't really get a position in the domestic league because they felt that in the domestic league they were struggling enough with the amount of competition that appeared, or basically Terzic was more eyeing the champions league than the Bundes league, he maximized their chances in the champions league and yes he said he was now waiting in the final, waiting for the results of the Real Madrid and Bayern Munich match tonight.
In my opinion, saying that they are targeting the Champions League more than the Bundesliga doesn't make sense either, because the last time they were champions in the Bundesliga alone was the 2011/2012 season, and after that they couldn't become champions again because Bayern Munich was always successful and only this season Bayern Munich could not defend its title because it could not compete with Leverkusen. However, if you say they are aiming to win the Champions League because this is their last chance to become champions this season, that still makes sense.
In my opinion, Borussia Dortmund is not serious about competing, because they always prioritize business over trophies. If they want to then they really can as long as they don't always sell the talented players they have.
The 2 shining young players they sold are Jude Bellingham and Erling Haaland for example, if they keep those players I think they will be much stronger than their current form.
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