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141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]🚀 OPTHERIUM🚀 Synergy of Blockchain solutions on: May 13, 2019, 05:21:40 AM
On the crypto echanges are a lot of money of cryptotraders. That is why thay are so tasty for hackers. Unfotunately every year the amount of stolen funds on the crytpo exchanges only increases.
That's for sure, many novice traders keep cryptocurrencies there, ignoring all security recommendations.

Cryptocurrency is very volatility and it takes money to deposite and withdraw crypto. That is why many traders keep money on exchanges that in right monent money will be on account.
Now the commission is not very high. Therefore, it is not a big payment for the safety of funds.
142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]🚀 OPTHERIUM🚀 Synergy of Blockchain solutions on: May 12, 2019, 06:02:30 AM
On the crypto echanges are a lot of money of cryptotraders. That is why thay are so tasty for hackers. Unfotunately every year the amount of stolen funds on the crytpo exchanges only increases.
That's for sure, many novice traders keep cryptocurrencies there, ignoring all security recommendations.
143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]🚀 OPTHERIUM🚀 Synergy of Blockchain solutions on: May 11, 2019, 07:35:58 AM
You discourse too doom Grin. I know (personally and via the internet) several traders who make money in trading for several years.

Using cryptocurrencies, it is important not only  to earn money, but also to be able to save them. Example with the hack of Binance demonstrates that. Since the beginning of 2019, $ 1.35 billion has been stolen.
Crypto exchange is a tasty morsel for hackers. Every day they are increasingly improving their methods of hacking.
144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]🚀 OPTHERIUM🚀 Synergy of Blockchain solutions on: May 10, 2019, 05:29:45 AM
You discourse too doom Grin. I know (personally and via the internet) several traders who make money in trading for several years.
The main thing is the right strategy, and you can earn in a falling market.
145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]🚀 OPTHERIUM🚀 Synergy of Blockchain solutions on: May 09, 2019, 05:38:39 AM
Crypto volatility is also episodic. Yes, the frequency and number of active assets in crypto is higher than assets in the stock market. However, you can always find something in both markets.
It would be good if there was more liquidity in the crypto market.
The lack of good liquidity is one of the main problems of the crypto market. Some are pinning their hopes on the institutional services that are now becoming popular among crypto exchanges.
146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]🚀 OPTHERIUM🚀 Synergy of Blockchain solutions on: May 08, 2019, 05:13:46 AM
I do not understand you. Volatility is precisely the change in the price of an asset!
My answer was about fasting speculators. On the previous pages in more detail.
147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]🚀 OPTHERIUM🚀 Synergy of Blockchain solutions on: May 07, 2019, 05:34:44 AM
In the stock market there are always volatile assets that are commensurate with crypto assets. There will always be stocks that can change in price by + 50-100% or -50% in one day.
Huge volatility in the crypto market is observed infrequently: for a couple of months / for several years.
Price change is not volatility, it is also necessary that it returns to its previous position. Of course, there are sometimes volatile assets in the stock market, but these are isolated and episodic cases. And for cryptocurrency, volatility within a few tens of percent in a short time is quite normal.
148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]🚀 OPTHERIUM🚀 Synergy of Blockchain solutions on: May 06, 2019, 05:31:32 AM

Investors are scared for their investments in the uncontrolled market. It is not surprising that some of them support full regulation.
For them, there are regulated markets. Stock exchanges with many different assets, much more than the number of cryptocurrency assets.
There is no such volatility as in cryptocurrencies.

That is why the crypto market is so popular among the traders. Big volatility is a big oportunity to get more profit.
Markets with high volatility are popular among fast speculators. This explains such a large scatter of activity in different periods on crypto market. The real trader makes a profit based on the strategy in any market, this is his job.
149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]🚀 OPTHERIUM🚀 Synergy of Blockchain solutions on: May 05, 2019, 06:25:17 AM

Investors are scared for their investments in the uncontrolled market. It is not surprising that some of them support full regulation.
For them, there are regulated markets. Stock exchanges with many different assets, much more than the number of cryptocurrency assets.
There is no such volatility as in cryptocurrencies.
150  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why did cryptodevil mark me red? on: May 04, 2019, 07:42:16 PM
I asked you mining is ponzi?
Do you really think that mining is that easy? you need to have a big investment to start something substantial to earn some profit and big mining farms usually spent millions to set up one and they do not start by collecting peanuts from the users who visit their site promising huge returns  Tongue, if you are not shelling out huge amounts it is a waste of money, you can be proud that you are supporting the mining echo system but you wont be getting any rewards, i was reading all your arguments about HYIP and Ponzi and the fact is all HYIP are scams.
You did not answer the question. Your speculation can be left with you.
1.That is, mining is ponzi?
Mining is a sector where minerals are dug up or coins created; it is neither a ponzi nor not a ponzi in itself.
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2. Wikipedia claims a lot of absurd things. For example, that the plots on the moon are sold.
Nearly as absurd as your imaginary difference between HYIPs and Ponzis. The term "HYIP" was invented by the scam industry to make their "too good to be true" inventions sound legitimate. A legitimate investment scheme is a provably legitimate investment scheme, irrespective of yield.
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Use authoritative sources:
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There are two types of HYIPs (or High Yield Investment Programs), others have to do with banking or investment in some offshore trading company with shady rules and cryptic technicalities, and these are the ones you will want to avoid. The other kind is the transparent kind that involves investment in shares, gold, futures or other local, understandable and verifiable trading setup.
Take your own advice.
Your "authoritative source" quote is dredged up from a site called streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/
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3 .You are not oriented at all in elementary concepts.
Obviously the only person who knows anything about anything is you.

Cryptodevil's feedback was and is accurate in my opinion and I would be surprised if he is convinced by your scammer hair splitting to remove it.
You'll be happy to read that I won't burden you and your pointless thread any further with my uninformed comments.


So what then may be the questions? The trust was changed for the project that mined cryptocurrencies and had a faucet on the site. Mining is HYIP, but not ponzi. Good thing you understand that.
151  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why did cryptodevil mark me red? on: May 04, 2019, 06:18:07 PM
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Are you trying to convince me that HYIP is not scam?  
I asked you mining is ponzi?
152  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why did cryptodevil mark me red? on: May 04, 2019, 06:02:36 PM
Let me remind you, not every HYIP is Ponzi, but every PONZY is HYIP.
Actually, every HYIP is ponzi.

3. I recommend that you study the materiel in more detail. HIP - High Yield Investment Programs. A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.
Sounds like HYIP:
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A high-yield investment program (HYIP) is a type of Ponzi scheme, an investment scam that promises unsustainably high return on investment by paying previous investors with the money invested by new investors.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program

This is basically the same thing with smaller differences but you are missing one very important thing, which is: both schemes are scam.
1.That is, mining is ponzi?
2. Wikipedia claims a lot of absurd things. For example, that the plots on the moon are sold. Use authoritative sources:
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There are two types of HYIPs (or High Yield Investment Programs), others have to do with banking or investment in some offshore trading company with shady rules and cryptic technicalities, and these are the ones you will want to avoid. The other kind is the transparent kind that involves investment in shares, gold, futures or other local, understandable and verifiable trading setup.
3 .You are not oriented at all in elementary concepts.
153  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why did cryptodevil mark me red? on: May 04, 2019, 05:45:17 PM
2. You did not read the thread at all?
I said the above because you are still arguing about it as if HYIP is not a scam.

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3. I recommend that you study the materiel in more detail. HIP - High Yield Investment Programs. A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.
All HYIP does is to lure more users by giving away refunds  for the initial investors and ask people like you to vouch for them and help them get a much bigger user base and when they reach their target, they just disappear and still you are arguing that it is an innocent business deal since you promoted it  Lips sealed.

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4. If the posts were deleted, then on the recommendation of the moderator. It is not forbidden by the rules to delete posts.
It is not forbidden by the rules to delete post to cover up the past   Roll Eyes, it is a good argument and so does cryptodevil as trust is also not moderated and i am sure that will be his argument.

I am out from this argument, good luck to you. Let the community decide about your arguments. 
2.You do not know materiel at all. For example, mining is HYIP, but you will not argue that mining is a scam. Or will you?
3. What you describe is the Ponzi scheme, not the HYIP. I recommend you to study what is HYIP. You do not understand the topic at all. Again, not every HYIP is ponzi, but every Ponzi is a HYIP.
4. You inattentively read my previous post and the whole topic, reread.
154  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why did cryptodevil mark me red? on: May 04, 2019, 08:11:53 AM
Op's case is exactly why we have so many unsolvable disputes on the forum. Everyone just wants to feed their ego instead of apologising and moving on. Arguing over the topics that they don't have knowledge about and retaliating when proved they're wrong.

OP : Apologising that you did promote a Ponzi a long time ago and you haven't done it since ages had more chances of getting that feedback removed.
I also think that a person can admit his mistake if he really was mistaken. There is nothing wrong with that.
2. With this approach, all projects can be safely called Ponzi schemes. For some reason I thought that in the Ponz schemes there are those who did not receive a profit. And there are no people who have not received a profit.
You are wrong here and so is the reason you are still trying to defend your actions, there is nothing wrong in being ignorant but if you are not taking any effort to understand what went wrong and still trying to get through the situation with baseless debates will not make any difference in your case, trust is not moderated and you could have sorted with cryptodevil but you choose this path instead.

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3.  You can create your startup and try to add it there, if it certainly does not work according to Ponzi scheme.
You do not seem to be completely oriented in terms of HYIP and Ponzi. Let me remind you, not every HYIP is Ponzi, but every PONZY is HYIP.
So explain what is a HYIP and give me one such scheme that are running for a long time, you really think that they are giving out free money from thin air Roll Eyes. All HYIP are scams

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4. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
 
The part that you choose to delete certain posts is the evidence you are looking for ?
2. You did not read the thread at all?
3. I recommend that you study the materiel in more detail. HIP - High Yield Investment Programs. A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.
4. If the posts were deleted, then on the recommendation of the moderator. It is not forbidden by the rules to delete posts.
155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]🚀 OPTHERIUM🚀 Synergy of Blockchain solutions on: May 04, 2019, 08:07:36 AM

[cut out]
The prohibition of cryptocurrency in the most progressive countries can be revised and then a new level of cryptoindustry will come.
More controlled, less cryptocurrency a new level. The way back.
Investors are scared for their investments in the uncontrolled market. It is not surprising that some of them support full regulation.
156  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why did cryptodevil mark me red? on: May 03, 2019, 06:03:53 PM
Pretty interesting that your "payments" came from the xapo cold wallet... Grin Grin Grin
So, should I trust somebody who was advertising a ponzi and the deleted a message or should I believe that you were just picking random transactions from blockchain.info and showing them as proof?
What is interesting about this? What prevents to pay the administrator from anywhere?
157  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why did cryptodevil mark me red? on: May 03, 2019, 05:42:22 PM
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Do you even know what the ponzi scheme is?

Do you even know whom are you talking too?

I think you should check @tmfp's post history once. You know nowhere near him what a poniz or MLM is.

Atleast check his personal text! Shocked
What for? I am guided by what he writes here. Everyone can be wrong, and you and me.
158  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why did cryptodevil mark me red? on: May 03, 2019, 04:21:42 PM
Stop lying, click on the link and see. The site has a faucet.
That's the second time you have called me a liar. I suggest you stop.

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In the above quote there is nothing about Ponzi scheme.
Ponzi schemes are known for not calling themselves ponzi schemes. If they pretend to be legitimate, it helps people like you rip off new investors.

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Do you even know what the ponzi scheme is?
Oh yes.
Schemes like Chain.group and Finrivers
People who post scam threads like these only in the Russian HYIP ghetto usually avoid red trust, but I can always make an exception.
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Я нe влaдeлeц/нe aдмин пpoeктa.
 
Of course you're not.  Roll Eyes
 
You're not helping your case here buddy.
He has no case.


1. Please give a quote where I called you a liar?
2. With this approach, all projects can be safely called Ponzi schemes. For some reason I thought that in the Ponz schemes there are those who did not receive a profit. And there are no people who have not received a profit.
3. Chain.group is a scam about what I wrote in the thread.
Finrivers is a real platform for startups. You can create your startup and try to add it there, if it certainly does not work according to Ponzi scheme.
You do not seem to be completely oriented in terms of HYIP and Ponzi. Let me remind you, not every HYIP is Ponzi, but every PONZY is HYIP.
4. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
5. Do not quite understand what you mean?
159  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why did cryptodevil mark me red? on: May 03, 2019, 03:54:16 PM
Stop lying, click on the link and see. The site has a faucet.
In the above quote there is nothing about Ponzi scheme.
Who are you trying to fool here? You think all of us are a bunch of braindead morons?

If you had explained why you promoted ponzi's in the past, and apologized for it, perhaps you could have received some leeway.

Instead, you told use that the rating was false, despite the archive link i posted above proving otherwise, and continue to spout nonsense/outright lies about certain specifics which really don't matter.

You're not helping your case here buddy.
What kind of nonsense are you writing? Who am I trying to fool and why? I did not advertise the Ponzi scheme and on this point. And no one can prove the opposite, because it was not.
160  Economy / Reputation / Re: Why did cryptodevil mark me red? on: May 03, 2019, 03:37:01 PM
Did I really deny that I received payments from the faucet? Where is the evidence that I advertised Ponzi scheme?

CryptoMonitor was not a faucet, that thread was a deliberate ponzi pretending to cloud mine and duly shut down.
You posted several times with "proof of payment" in that thread (you have since deleted those posts. Why is that?)
Posting proof of payment in ponzi threads is seen as promoting, hence your negative trust feedback.
You don't have to agree.
End of story.
No need to lie. What's this?


Where is your evidence that this ponzi scheme?

This is not a faucet, it's a cloud mining ponzi.

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Stop lying, click on the link and see. The site has a faucet.
In the above quote there is nothing about Ponzi scheme.
Do you even know what the ponzi scheme is?
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