The deposit bonus is a bait, i mean, they are made to be hard for the users, and most of the users will not complete the wager, but some lucky user will complete it, you only need a good run for it.
But the main thing that I dislike about that kind of bonus is the fact that they limit the possible win, so, if you make a $100 depo, and get $200, and you are only allowed to withdraw $300, it would really suck if we are in a good run up to $1500 in balance and we can't take it all.
Yes, now it is not uncommon to see bonus conditions in the form of withdrawal restrictions. Most often I see a x10 maximum withdrawal limit from a deposit bonus. Also, for beginners casinos now give tricky free spins without a deposit, which can only be wagered for a real deposit. |
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I personally know one casino where the wager for x1 bonuses. For example, they give a 100% bonus up to $1000 with x1 wagering. The casino withdraws money, but verification is required through the bot in the service. The perfect casino for a bonus hunters. I'm ready to give a link for a small remuneration, PM.
Which casino do you know with 1x wagering requirements but has a 100% or $1000 bonus, tell us the name I'm also curious about the casino you mean. Many casinos already use bots in their services, so it's not a difficult thing, but at least if there is a problem they want to deal with it right away, not a bot that actually gives a response. Regarding bonuses, I have never felt getting a bonus with a decent and easy amount with just 1x bet. Only in one hand I am ready to give a link to the casino, if I post it here, an influx of people will go and the wager will be raised. |
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The best bonus is not to take the bonus if it has a big wager, because it will be -EV (-Expected value). Any casino game is -EV, if you play by the rules of the casino. I will give an example of why you should not take deposit bonuses with a high wager. The casino gives a 100% bonus on the first deposit and wager x40 (D+B) = 200 x40 = 8k, we make a deposit of $100 and they give us another $100 = $200 (wager 200*40=8k). The casino has an average RTP of 96% (percent is different everywhere, depends on slots or house games and so on). For every $100 wagered we get back $96 according to the mathematical expectation (100-96=4), $960 for 1k wager (1000-960=40), $7680 for 8k wager (8000-7680=320). And after the full wagering, we will lose $320 (D+B and also we need more $120), which gives a very large -EV. Who thinks about this and the casinos began to raise the wager.
Even without this EV calculation on the bonuses, It’s very obvious that most of the casino has negative EV because they are a business which means their service is not a charity that gives free money. Most of the casino bonuses has a high wagering requirements so I doubt you can find a bonuses with positive EV like what you theoretically calculated on this. Even if there is,Casino will just hold your account if you win since you are taking advantage to their offer using safe bets. Bonuses is not intended for free money. It’s an extra reward for your game. You will be busted if you will focus claiming it instead of playing. I personally know one casino where the wager for x1 bonuses. For example, they give a 100% bonus up to $1000 with x1 wagering. The casino withdraws money, but verification is required through the bot in the service. The perfect casino for a bonus hunters. I'm ready to give a link for a small remuneration, PM. |
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You guys have been gambling for years are going to go way over the rollover amounts. Why in the world would you pass up a bonus unless you are going to hit and run and not gamble for the rest of your life. If you get a 100% bonus then you double your ROI. You will stay in the game much longer with a bonus.
The fact of the matter is that you stay longer in the game. In any case, casino RTP leads to a loss, this is not poker. You can further increase the time spent in the casino, play house games, such as Dice (in the best crypto casinos house edge is usually about 1%). In slots you can hit a life changing jackpot. A bonus gives you more time to hit that jackpot. Look at the chance of hitting the jackpot, the higher the jackpot, the lower the chance. Also, the bet usually plays a role, the higher the bet, the higher the chance of hitting the jackpot, but there the chances are 0.00000.... And in the jackpot slots RTP are even more underestimated, you will lose faster your money. |
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You guys have been gambling for years are going to go way over the rollover amounts. Why in the world would you pass up a bonus unless you are going to hit and run and not gamble for the rest of your life. If you get a 100% bonus then you double your ROI. You will stay in the game much longer with a bonus.
The fact of the matter is that you stay longer in the game. In any case, casino RTP leads to a loss, this is not poker. You can further increase the time spent in the casino, play house games, such as Dice (in the best crypto casinos house edge is usually about 1%). |
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Hi all! Seeing here a topic about bonuses and rewards. Decided to create a topic. It seems to me very important for players who do not understand how RTP works in a casino and why they give deposit bonuses with a large wager (x10+). Also, those who did not understand how it works before will be able to calculate EV (Expected value) by themselves. And yes, you can still find bonuses with +EV, I personally know one such casino.
The best bonus is not to take the bonus if it has a big wager, because it will be -EV (-Expected value). Any casino game is -EV, if you play by the rules of the casino. I will give an example of why you should not take deposit bonuses with a high wager. The casino gives a 100% bonus on the first deposit and wager x25 (D+B) = x50, we make a deposit of $100 and they give us another $100 = $200 (wager 200*50=10k). The casino has an average RTP of 96% (percent is different everywhere, depends on slots or house games and so on). For every 100 dollars wagered we get back 96 dollars according to the mathematical expectation (100-96=4), 960 dollars for 1k wager (1000-960=40), 9600 dollars for 10k wager (10000-9600=400). And after the full wagering, we will lose 400 dollars, which gives a very large -EV. I do not advise you to take any bonuses more than x10 wager (depending on RTP). These bonuses are rare. Who thinks about this and the casinos began to raise the wager.
I don't understand why you say first we need to wager 50x times the deposit " x25 (D+B) = x50" and then you say we need to wager 50x times the deposit+the bonus " (wager 200*50=10k)" You've made a mistake I think. If the customer deposits $100 he will need to wager 50 x 100 = 5000$ or (100 + 100) x 25 = 200 x 25 = 5000$Thank you friend! Before reading your message, I realized that I messed up a little with D+B, already fixed it. |
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Personally, I try as much as possible to avoid deposit bonuses this is because of it accompanying conditions because as a gambler the hardest and most painful experience is when you see that you lost all that you have won trying to meet the conditions of the casino, because of the usage of bonus code and the requirements that comes with it.
Deposit and any other type of bonuses always come with these conditions and if a gambler is not careful enough to read and properly understand these conditions it may become the failing pits because they may be confronted with high wager conditions to meet up with which may become difficult to do.
That's why this topic should be on the forum. I have been familiar with the casino for many years, more than 15 years, online and offline. The casinos are very tricky, the money does not smell and they are ready to do anything so that you leave them your money. The deposit bonus is the most important trick for newbies or those who do not want to count EV. |
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Hello! Seeing here a topic about bonuses and rewards. Decided to create a topic. It seems to me very important for players who do not understand how RTP works in a casino and why they give deposit bonuses with a large wager (x10+). Also, those who did not understand how it works before will be able to calculate EV (Expected value) by themselves. And yes, you can still find bonuses with +EV, I personally know one such casino.
The best bonus is not to take the bonus if it has a big wager, because it will be -EV (-Expected value). Any casino game is -EV, if you play by the rules of the casino. I will give an example of why you should not take deposit bonuses with a high wager. The casino gives a 100% bonus on the first deposit and wager x40 (D+B) = 200 x40 = 8k, we make a deposit of $100 and they give us another $100 = $200 (wager 200*40=8k). The casino has an average RTP of 96% (percent is different everywhere, depends on slots or house games and so on). For every $100 wagered we get back $96 according to the mathematical expectation (100-96=4), $960 for 1k wager (1000-960=40), $7680 for 8k wager (8000-7680=320). And after the full wagering, we will lose $320 (D+B and also we need more $120), which gives a very large -EV. Who thinks about this and the casinos began to raise the wager.
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The best bonus is not to take the bonus if it has a big wager, because it will be -EV (-Expected value). Any casino game is -EV, if you play by the rules of the casino. If you play, it is better to receive rewards for wager levels. I will give an example of why you should not take deposit bonuses with a wager. The casino gives a 100% bonus on the first deposit and wager x25 (D+B) = x50, we make a deposit of $100 and they give us another $100 = $200 (wager 200*50=10k). The casino has an average RTP of 96% (percent is different everywhere, depends on slots or house games and so on). For every 100 dollars wagered we get back 96 dollars according to the mathematical expectation (100-96=4), 960 dollars for 1k wager (1000-960=40), 9600 dollars for 10k wager (10000-9600=400). And after the full wagering, we will lose 400 dollars, which gives a very large -EV. I do not advise you to take any bonuses more than x2 wager. These bonuses are rare these days.
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Before withdrawing funds, I consider x1 wagering of the deposit to be adequate. Sometimes casinos make up to x5 wagering of the deposit, which is a lot and quite negative for the players.
Now there are a lot of casinos that make sticky bonuses and maximum withdrawal deposit bonuses. Therefore, be careful before making a deposit and taking a bonus.
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Haven't heard about the superpicks project. I have a project in my signature that does not require investment of money. You can play and get crypto, you can also invest money and mine without playing.
When I have nothing to do, I play and get some crypto. As a rule, such projects pay very little without investments, this is normal.
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This casino does not have any gaming licenses. This was confirmed to me by the operator in the chat. In such casinos, there can be cheating on bets and twisting the results, I do not advise you to play here.  |
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Played for a bonus, won a little. I decided to withdraw and the support told me to make a minimum deposit of $1. Having made the minimum deposit, as it turned out, it has already become $20! The support claims that I made a cheat to deceive the payment system. I have all the correspondence with support and screenshots of the history of the deposit, where it is clearly visible that the deposit was originally 1 dollar. I strongly advise you not to play in this casino, the rules are changed on the go so as not to pay.
Hello Sir, That is not right. We told you that you need to make minimum one deposit to can make withdrawals. Also we told you that the minimum of deposit is 20 USD. You try to cheat with make request to deposit 20 usd and deposit 1 usd. The system recognize that i you are not able to do withdrawal. So to can make your withdrawal, please deposit atlast 20 USD and make withdraw request. Thank you! If you have any other question feel free to ask here or mail us to info@casino2x.xyz Hello, As we already told you, Sir, minimum of deposit is 20 usd  Technicaly to make withdrawal is request just one dollar. But minimum deposit is 20 usd, so you need to do minimum one valid deposit. We told you many times before and after you try to make request for 20 usd deposit and deposit just 1 usd. This will not gonna work. Also please don't try to blackmail our agents in chat they can't proccess your withdrawal manual. You need to request it by system. At the moment you can't because you don't have valid deposit. When you make valid deposit you can make withdraw request! Regards!   |
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Played for a bonus, won a little. I decided to withdraw and the support told me to make a minimum deposit of $1. Having made the minimum deposit, as it turned out, it has already become $20! The support claims that I made a cheat to deceive the payment system. I have all the correspondence with support and screenshots of the history of the deposit, where it is clearly visible that the deposit was originally 1 dollar. I strongly advise you not to play in this casino, the rules are changed on the go so as not to pay.
Hello Sir, That is not right. We told you that you need to make minimum one deposit to can make withdrawals. Also we told you that the minimum of deposit is 20 USD. You try to cheat with make request to deposit 20 usd and deposit 1 usd. The system recognize that i you are not able to do withdrawal. So to can make your withdrawal, please deposit atlast 20 USD and make withdraw request. Thank you! If you have any other question feel free to ask here or mail us to info@casino2x.xyz |
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Played for a bonus, won a little. I decided to withdraw and the support told me to make a minimum deposit of $1. Having made the minimum deposit, as it turned out, it has already become $20! The support claims that I made a cheat to deceive the payment system. I have all the correspondence with support and screenshots of the history of the deposit, where it is clearly visible that the deposit was originally 1 dollar. I strongly advise you not to play in this casino, the rules are changed on the go so as not to pay.
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Code C9FEE743 no longer works, can you make a new code, thanks. And the link from the website to Discord doesn't work.
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It makes sense to sell a personal account, especially judging by the status of the account, you have millions of wager there.
It's easier to finish all the reloads and just block the account forever, since you decided to quit gambling.
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Hi guys, general cost is 0.5 btc, with just 0.01 you will receive a commission of 0.0005 btc per month, that is 5%.
Post your offer on my telegram and we can verify good conditions of partnerships, we accept any proposal.
minimum bid is 0.001 btc and maximum is 0.10 btc
My telegram is @cont_luizxind
I am available to clarify any doubts.
Everything is great, but there is one moment. The most difficult thing is to drive game traffic, all new casinos face this. The turnover with such a casino is likely to be low. Now there are top casinos with dice games and different slot providers. It will be difficult to compete with them. |
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GET 20USDT as a Welcome bonus! *Terms and conditions applies Thank you! and please let us know if you have any questions Learned about free 20USDT. Conditions are very bad! Before withdrawing from these 20USDT, you need to make a deposit of 100USDT + your winnings and wager all this x10 and then you can withdraw. |
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