At first i want to store ICN in my ICO account, but the test-coin function is really attrative so that I've just decided to enter my Ether address on Oct 21st but my balance in myetherwallet didn't change. Can the ICN team tell me how long it takes to receive test tokens after fill the ether address in ICO page ? Thank you  . It won't show. t-ICN distribution was done once. Ask anyone to send you some t-ICN tokens. If you can receive them and send them back it means your address will work with real ICN contract. |
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I have 1752,78 ICN (1K ICN) in my ICO account. Why in MEW its only 1.776722518353012369?
Because it's a test-it ICN contract. 1 ICN plus decimals for each. Just to make sure no one get's an idea to make something like ETC out of it. In real contract, ur getting full amount. Decimals are there to match to show that we did distribution already. 1752, 78 (you don't see full precision). With that in mind you received 1. 776722518353012369 (if you round that up to 2 decimals points, you get ,78). |
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Hello. I have a question. I've bought some ICN accounts from bounty hunters. who sold their accounts in markeplace..
so now I want to know can I use my one etherum address for all the accounts or I need to use separate ethereum wallets for separate accouns?
You need to enter different address for each account. |
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1.6XXXXXXX ICN
I have seen this on my myetherwallet, so it means my wallet test is ok, I will get ALL of my tokens after launch right?
You are getting all the tokens in real ICN contract at launch. I would also recommend you to send ICN tokens to some address. You tested that you see tokens. Now test that you can also send (most important actually). |
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t-ICN tokens are released now (contract unlocked), so test tokens can be sent around. If someone needs a fraction, PM your ETH address.
t-ICN tokens are now unlocked. Feel free to send values around and report issues if u have them. Instructions for Ethereum wallet and MEW are coming within few hours. Also, investors will receive an email from us. t-ICN address: 0x384e762dAd922B22a0d06f4D1229582473D2DEe6 Are we expectig for an early release of token if the t-icn is successful on transfering? I hope ICN can be transfer in eth wallet before the exchange hit so that we can have time to have a P2P trading. Release of real ICN tokens will not happen before Tue, 25th Oct,1pm UTC. Once unlocked P2P and exchanges can and will start at same time. |
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t-ICN tokens are released now (contract unlocked), so test tokens can be sent around. If someone needs a fraction, PM your ETH address.
t-ICN tokens are now unlocked. Feel free to send values around and report issues if u have them. Instructions for Ethereum wallet and MEW are coming within few hours. Also, investors will receive an email from us. Edit: Multisig JSON contract instructions are coming tomorrow (default one from Ethereum wallet can multisig only ETH - it applied to all the tokens issued on top of Ethereum). t-ICN address: 0x384e762dAd922B22a0d06f4D1229582473D2DEe6 |
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The test ICN was deployed successfully. Can we expect the genesis a little before 25th Oct now?
Deployed yes. Released not. As of now release is scheduled for Tue, 25th October 1pm UTC. |
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Everyone received 1 ICN + some decimal numbers.
Decimal numbers are the same as they will be in real contract.
If you see that you will receive 789.46 ICN token on a dashboard we assigned you 1.46xxxxxxxxxxxx ICN in a test contract.
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This is my first ICO and first steps on the ethereum blockcain.
Sorry for my maybe stupid question, but...
Iconomi sais the laungh date would be 18 oktober but I havent received any tokens in my ethereum wallet (android).
Is there a delay or should I be worried?
No Android wallet supports ICN tokens according to my knowledge. If you don't see ICN token there you were doing something wrong! |
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test-it ICN contract is deployed and values assigned at 0x384e762dAd922B22a0d06f4D1229582473D2DEe6
In Ethereum wallet go under: Contracts -> Watch Contract. Enter 0x384e762dAd922B22a0d06f4D1229582473D2DEe6 as TOKEN CONTRACT ADDRESS and the rest will happen automatically. Just click OK when fields fill up.
It will most likely be unlocked Thu 9am CET. after that you can make transactions etc.
That means you should see values in it But you won't be able to transfer ICNs.
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Are we receiving dividends? are you guys busy doing what you were suppose to do after launch?
Will you pay dividends for 15 days late launch delays?
Yes. One lambo per investor per week. |
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I'm guessing they initiated the test contract distribution before sleep, and if all went well, will be releasing the tokenwatch address for testing it sometime within the next 18 hours...
You got that right! Distribution on test-it IcN is indeed gonna take about 18hours. 1h ago we were at 70%. |
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So can you please define "bigger amounts" that must undergo "manual processing"? $100, $1,000, $10,000, $100,000 ? This must be disclosed to investors to insure "Equality of Opportunity".
Is is based on the "Withdraw Amount" or on the "Total amount in an ICN account"?
I can not define bigger amounts and I won't. I think we should define ICO as vault and not wallet. If you want any amount available anytime use ETH address. Whatever it will be, it will be defined on Withdraw amount. Regarding DDoS: Maybe we'll face it, maybe we won't. That's a fact. Are we acting like it's gonna happen for sure? Yes we are. |
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1. For bigger amounts there will be manual processing. If one wants instant access, controlling it from Ethereum wallet is recommended option.
2. DDoS. We have infrastructure in place that should and one that during ICO did handle all the attacks. I'm surprised you're saying that we haven't learned anything from Lisk while our ICO site was up all the time without any downtime because of DDoS...
1. Can you please define "bigger amounts"? $100, $1,000, $10,000, $100,000 ? This must be disclosed to investors. So if someone wants to withdraw a large amount and doesn't know how to use Ethereum Wallet... he MUST wait manual processing... which could take hours if not days because of large number of investors ? This doesn't sound fair.2FA + Email withdraw verification is more than enough to ensure safe AUTOMATIC withdraws. 2. Lisk site was also up all the time without any downtime during fundraising, but once they opened the withdraws, they got DDoSed and people couldn't withdraw for 2 to 3 days... Please ask Max to share his experience and learn from their mistakes. If "whale-x" needs or wants to have total instant liquidity, he/she would only need enter an ETH address onto the site which results in the tokens being sent to your preferred address... everyone in this scenario has the same opportunity because the token watch contract address isn't given out until the tokens are fully distributed. Amounts can vary. As MrPresident said... if you want to be sure, have access with your own private keys. We have prepared infrastructure to the fullest, but you never know. And yes, we spoke with Max a lot. Actually.. we're spending next 2-3days together with him in Ljubljana. But please, stop accusing us of not doing anything to protect in case of DDoS or whatever. Edit: pic  |
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Note to all.I was texting with @tayvano from myetherwallet. Yes, we met and had a dinner in Shanghai the night before Devcon2. She is getting 20+ of mails/texts/reddit messages from our community regarding myetherwallet adding native support for ICN and she is starting to feel annoyed ( https://github.com/kvhnuke/etherwallet/issues/249#issuecomment-254580960) by replying to the same questions over and over again - and she says it's not just question, but usually comes with a lot of text why ICONOMI is great etc. I really appreciate everyone in community for sharing awareness. Thank you all! However, she says I can confirm to you that myetherwallet will add support for ICN natively. But I promised her to notice all of you to stop writing myetherwallet about that. They will include it! And since she is a lady, I hope we don't have any problems with that. We need to show respect to ladies. There isn't many in crypto community and in order to attract more ladies, we need to be nice - especially with them. Thanks to all for all the support! I really appreciate it! But now we can say myetherwallet is officially checked. Finally an official confirmation from ICONOMI about MEW.Thank you for making it clear.And of course no more questions to them about this.I had only asked 1 time on twitter.Dev can you write a guide now as mentioned before?now its clear about myetherwallet. Guide will be written as soon as we have test-it ICN contract up. |
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Should everyone be apart from the test to be able to receive the real ICNs later ? or If this test works for a few people means that It will work for everyone else ?
Also , you said before that those who fail to put their addresses in their accounts , will be able to hold their ICNs in their ICONOMI accounts , If they suddenly decide to withdraw the ICNs from the account (after ICNs are issued) , would the withdrawal will be instant or we should wait hours/days/weeks ?
test-it ICN is means for testing for those who wanna make sure they will have access with real ICN contract. It's just a replica of a real contract with a bit modified values in it. If you wanna test it before launch fee free. If not, not a problem. Just make sure you have corresponding private key of a public address you provide to us. If you don't enter your address is not a problem. Withdrawal function will be available at the same time as genesis is launched. Withdrawals from our website for smaller amounts will be instant, but bigger amounts or in case we detect login from unknown device / IP / country / etc they will be processed manually. With that in mind. If you for sure want to send ICNs out the best is to enter your eth address right now. Why am I saying this. You might hit on manual withdrawal from our website as first thing. Second thing, let's be realistic. Maybe we'll get ddosed. We were down not more than 5mins during ICO (the rest of the time site was accessible normally at normal speed and all), but there was nothing else. I was surprised, especially because of the amount raised, but I guess our Domen did a good job. However, we can't explode that. With controlling ICN on your own, you are dependent only on the network. Reminder for all! If you didn't switched 2FA on (google authenticator is recommended here), switch it on right away. Withdrawals without 2FA won't be possible and once you turn it on it will take at least 36h before account with freshly turned 2FA on gets withdrawals enabled. 2 questions: 1. "Withdraws processed manually?". That will create major problems for your small team & endless FUD within investors awaiting their withdraws. If an account has 2FA, it should be able to withdraw AUTOMATICALLY, not matter what amount, IP, Country.... etc. people use different IPs & different devices all the time, and hackers use VPN to change their county IP. Edit: Maybe add withdraw verification by Email, on top of 2FA requirement. That's more than enough to secure Automatic withdraws for everyone. 2. "Maybe you'll get DDoSed?". OF COURSE your website will get DDoSed. People who received their withdraws to ETH wallets, will certainly try to DDoS the ICONOMI ICO site to have first movers advantage to reach exchanges... The DDoS attack can last for hours if not days. I am surprised you haven't learned from Lisk launch fiasco due to DDoS. I hope you do something to address these 2 sensitive issues in next 7 days before the launch. 1. For bigger amounts there will be manual processing. If one wants instant access, controlling it from Ethereum wallet is recommended option. 2. DDoS. We have infrastructure in place that should and one that during ICO did handle all the attacks. I'm surprised you're saying that we haven't learned anything from Lisk while our ICO site was up all the time without any downtime because of DDoS... |
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Should everyone be apart from the test to be able to receive the real ICNs later ? or If this test works for a few people means that It will work for everyone else ?
Also , you said before that those who fail to put their addresses in their accounts , will be able to hold their ICNs in their ICONOMI accounts , If they suddenly decide to withdraw the ICNs from the account (after ICNs are issued) , would the withdrawal will be instant or we should wait hours/days/weeks ?
test-it ICN is means for testing for those who wanna make sure they will have access with real ICN contract. It's just a replica of a real contract with a bit modified values in it. If you wanna test it before launch fee free. If not, not a problem. Just make sure you have corresponding private key of a public address you provide to us. If you don't enter your address is not a problem. Withdrawal function will be available at the same time as genesis is launched. Withdrawals from our website for smaller amounts will be instant, but bigger amounts or in case we detect login from unknown device / IP / country / etc they will be processed manually. With that in mind. If you for sure want to send ICNs out the best is to enter your eth address right now. Why am I saying this. You might hit on manual withdrawal from our website as first thing. Second thing, let's be realistic. Maybe we'll get ddosed. We were down not more than 5mins during ICO (the rest of the time site was accessible normally at normal speed and all), but there was nothing else. I was surprised, especially because of the amount raised, but I guess our Domen did a good job. However, we can't explode that. With controlling ICN on your own, you are dependent only on the network. Reminder for all! If you didn't switched 2FA on (google authenticator is recommended here), switch it on right away. Withdrawals without 2FA won't be possible and once you turn it on it will take at least 36h before account with freshly turned 2FA on gets withdrawals enabled. So, if Iconomi is ddosed , what can be its effects. ? Would it be safe to keep icns on iconomi i considering the possibility of a ddos attack? In case of ddos assets are safe. |
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Should everyone be apart from the test to be able to receive the real ICNs later ? or If this test works for a few people means that It will work for everyone else ?
Also , you said before that those who fail to put their addresses in their accounts , will be able to hold their ICNs in their ICONOMI accounts , If they suddenly decide to withdraw the ICNs from the account (after ICNs are issued) , would the withdrawal will be instant or we should wait hours/days/weeks ?
test-it ICN is means for testing for those who wanna make sure they will have access with real ICN contract. It's just a replica of a real contract with a bit modified values in it. If you wanna test it before launch fee free. If not, not a problem. Just make sure you have corresponding private key of a public address you provide to us. If you don't enter your address is not a problem. Withdrawal function will be available at the same time as genesis is launched. Withdrawals from our website for smaller amounts will be instant, but bigger amounts or in case we detect login from unknown device / IP / country / etc they will be processed manually. With that in mind. If you for sure want to send ICNs out the best is to enter your eth address right now. Why am I saying this. You might hit on manual withdrawal from our website as first thing. Second thing, let's be realistic. Maybe we'll get ddosed. We were down not more than 5mins during ICO (the rest of the time site was accessible normally at normal speed and all), but there was nothing else. I was surprised, especially because of the amount raised, but I guess our Domen did a good job. However, we can't explode that. With controlling ICN on your own, you are dependent only on the network. Reminder for all! If you didn't switched 2FA on (google authenticator is recommended here), switch it on right away. Withdrawals without 2FA won't be possible and once you turn it on it will take at least 36h before account with freshly turned 2FA on gets withdrawals enabled. Withdrawals from our website for smaller amounts will be instant, but bigger amounts or in case we detect login from unknown device / IP / country / etc they will be processed manually. Will you add email confirmation on top of 2FA? Will it be possible to configure manual processing for every withdraw (or consider adding it as future option if doesn't exist)? Email confirmation will be needed for withdrawal. You will need password, 2FA and email confirmation to trigger withdrawal. You won't be able to turn manual processing for every withdrawal. |
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