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When I lost $10k + (currently around 16k aud now) on primedice, I got all the blame placed on me. I find it unfair how every one just blames you when you're the one who lost a huge amount of money. And it's funny how most of the people accusing you of being a fraudster are the carders, spammers, etc, who have probably never seen more than $10. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that I lost 10k due to one single mistake (depositing into a SO called "safe" website.)
That's a lot of money. I feel you ! was your's the same case ? someone stole your BTC ? All the victims of this site, together we could do something about this. |
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the password is definitely unique to this site.
there can be many possibilites why most common are: 1.low password difficulty,some passwords can be bruteforced in under 1 hour 2.your machine is infected 3.you clicked links in chat or downloaded a script,"hash cracker" or a "100% winning script" 4.you gave your API to somebody else it is not the first time I hear stories like that,coins just disappear from accounts in 99.999% of the cases it is the user who is at fault also if you bet high amounts of money,use 2fa maybe you can check the tx and trace the thief,ask support for his ip hash and session details...but I doubt you will get your money back You know... Why if it's not? I mean it happened to me aswell and ONLY on PD. I'm not accusing them of course because I have 0 formal proof. But neither you have when you say user is at fault. What if PD is actually taking the funds from time to time, making everyone believe that it's user fault? Again that's not an accusation! It might have been just me and every user to whom it happened that had a technical issue or a virus or... Something. But in the same way it could have been PD ^^ The only thing I know is that I stopped playing here and it never happened anywhere else... You have a point though and those assumptions would be possible because anytime the house could give an excuse regarding on the situation.I dont have the right to give conclusions but the possibilities are there and same as yours i do believe in such thing that PD is the only one could able to take funds from their users since OP said that hes a programmer and developer and uses strong password and having a clean pc. They don't necessarily have to be directly involved in a scam to take the blame. It's their duty to protect their users. So, if multiple people are getting rigged only on this site, they are exposed and have a security loophole. They have to take the responsibility and investigate thoroughly and provide the users with a guarantee that something like this wont repeat. People who are saying that it didn't happen to you since 3-4 years, you never know, you could be next. Till yesterday, I was endorsing PD in my signature and this happens to me. |
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the password is definitely unique to this site.
there can be many possibilites why most common are: 1.low password difficulty,some passwords can be bruteforced in under 1 hour 2.your machine is infected 3.you clicked links in chat or downloaded a script,"hash cracker" or a "100% winning script" 4.you gave your API to somebody else it is not the first time I hear stories like that,coins just disappear from accounts in 99.999% of the cases it is the user who is at fault also if you bet high amounts of money,use 2fa maybe you can check the tx and trace the thief,ask support for his ip hash and session details...but I doubt you will get your money back You know... Why if it's not? I mean it happened to me aswell and ONLY on PD. I'm not accusing them of course because I have 0 formal proof. But neither you have when you say user is at fault. What if PD is actually taking the funds from time to time, making everyone believe that it's user fault? Again that's not an accusation! It might have been just me and every user to whom it happened that had a technical issue or a virus or... Something. But in the same way it could have been PD ^^ The only thing I know is that I stopped playing here and it never happened anywhere else... how much did you lose ? why should we let them go easily if they keep robbing us this way ? I lost about 0.5btc and here is a list of the reasons why there is nothing that can really be done: 1/ We got no formal proof. In fact even if I suspect PD I have no idea if they're really guilty. The idea is plausible but I have no evidence of it 2/ PD is the oldest dice site with btc if I remember well. You can't erase that 3/ PD won the trust of bitcoin forum members, and this community is hard to get but once you have it it's impossible to lose it without a HUGE scam proof. 4/ PD is very responsive. That's not the usual scammer behaviour and you can't really expect much more from them. They're innocent until proven guilty And most important: 5/ It's gambling with btc. We all more or less expect to lose money with gambling so gambling with btc? That's like doubling your chance of losing everything! If you got proofs I guess we could do something, but even if I find all that a bit shady, I have no evidence whatsoever. And I don't really see myself accusing Stunna of stealing me without proof xD Proof ? I've a password unique for this site and strong enough that it would take years to decode using bruteforce. I've a machine that I'm sure is not compromised. I haven't used any scripts. and yet, it took the hacker less than 10 minutes to decode my password ? What other proofs do we need ? I'm convinced it's an insiders job. That's no proof man ^^ First: you're saying things but not giving objective evidences that those things are true. How can we know that you're speaking the truth here, you might have downloaded a script or used a weak password as far as we know. Second: it's not because it seems impossible that it is. So saying "it must be that" isn't a proof. That's where it gets complicated, fact is that we have no solid evidence. But you can start a thread in the scam accusation sections saying that you SUSPECT dubious manipulation. I would back you up and I'm sure I would not be the only one. But the only thing we can do here is saying that things seem... Shady. No way I'm formally accusing PD of stealing its users. As far as I know, they're innocent until proven guilty. It's just that... I don't see how I lost my 0.5btc if it was not an inside job. I don't see other solution, but that doesn't mean there is none. That's not a bad idea. I'll wait for Stunna's reply before I start a thread on the Scam Accusation board. |
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the password is definitely unique to this site.
there can be many possibilites why most common are: 1.low password difficulty,some passwords can be bruteforced in under 1 hour 2.your machine is infected 3.you clicked links in chat or downloaded a script,"hash cracker" or a "100% winning script" 4.you gave your API to somebody else it is not the first time I hear stories like that,coins just disappear from accounts in 99.999% of the cases it is the user who is at fault also if you bet high amounts of money,use 2fa maybe you can check the tx and trace the thief,ask support for his ip hash and session details...but I doubt you will get your money back You know... Why if it's not? I mean it happened to me aswell and ONLY on PD. I'm not accusing them of course because I have 0 formal proof. But neither you have when you say user is at fault. What if PD is actually taking the funds from time to time, making everyone believe that it's user fault? Again that's not an accusation! It might have been just me and every user to whom it happened that had a technical issue or a virus or... Something. But in the same way it could have been PD ^^ The only thing I know is that I stopped playing here and it never happened anywhere else... how much did you lose ? why should we let them go easily if they keep robbing us this way ? I lost about 0.5btc and here is a list of the reasons why there is nothing that can really be done: 1/ We got no formal proof. In fact even if I suspect PD I have no idea if they're really guilty. The idea is plausible but I have no evidence of it 2/ PD is the oldest dice site with btc if I remember well. You can't erase that 3/ PD won the trust of bitcoin forum members, and this community is hard to get but once you have it it's impossible to lose it without a HUGE scam proof. 4/ PD is very responsive. That's not the usual scammer behaviour and you can't really expect much more from them. They're innocent until proven guilty And most important: 5/ It's gambling with btc. We all more or less expect to lose money with gambling so gambling with btc? That's like doubling your chance of losing everything! If you got proofs I guess we could do something, but even if I find all that a bit shady, I have no evidence whatsoever. And I don't really see myself accusing Stunna of stealing me without proof xD Proof ? I've a password unique for this site and strong enough that it would take years to decode using bruteforce. I've a machine that I'm sure is not compromised. I haven't used any scripts. and yet, it took the hacker less than 10 minutes to decode my password ? What other proofs do we need ? I'm convinced it's an insiders job. |
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the password is definitely unique to this site.
there can be many possibilites why most common are: 1.low password difficulty,some passwords can be bruteforced in under 1 hour 2.your machine is infected 3.you clicked links in chat or downloaded a script,"hash cracker" or a "100% winning script" 4.you gave your API to somebody else it is not the first time I hear stories like that,coins just disappear from accounts in 99.999% of the cases it is the user who is at fault also if you bet high amounts of money,use 2fa maybe you can check the tx and trace the thief,ask support for his ip hash and session details...but I doubt you will get your money back You know... Why if it's not? I mean it happened to me aswell and ONLY on PD. I'm not accusing them of course because I have 0 formal proof. But neither you have when you say user is at fault. What if PD is actually taking the funds from time to time, making everyone believe that it's user fault? Again that's not an accusation! It might have been just me and every user to whom it happened that had a technical issue or a virus or... Something. But in the same way it could have been PD ^^ The only thing I know is that I stopped playing here and it never happened anywhere else... how much did you lose ? why should we let them go easily if they keep robbing us this way ? |
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13BTC is a lot of money. Isn't primedice responsible for investigating this ? Why is this community going so easy on them ? |
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the only thing i can think of here is your device have some malware or virus to steal your passwords once you typed it, i have a primedice account which i don't use often, maybe i just visit it once or twice a month and my balance there don't just vanished or something, everytime i logged in i can still see my balance in the account, never had any problem.
Not my first primedice account. Created multiple ones in the last one month. Could've easily been the other accounts too if my computer was infected I suppose. |
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Someone recently lose his Bitcoin too but not in primedice but in rollin.io he was using seuntjie bot then suddenly all his bitcoin was withdrawn to an unknown address. this is the link where he opened that topic. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307425.1780My guess is malware since both the person just created an account in the dice site and passwords are both unique. Or try to check your emails they might have an access to your email because sometimes in bitcoin world we only use 1 email address. I think Seuntjie bot site was compromised today and i hope it is recovered now. To the OP prime dice is not compromised but you might have used an infected script .Sorry to hear about your loss. No scripts used whatsoever!! Just got a reply from their team saying that there is nothing they can do about it. If multiple users are effected and only on PD, it has to be something with their weak security or a loophole. Fortunately for me, it was just 55$ but who's to be blamed if someone loses big money ? They were so casual in replying to me saying that my account may have been compromised. How can the account be compromised within 10 minutes of creating it I wonder!! NEVER Primedice again!! |
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I use a linux machine and I'm a developer myself. So, its highly unlikely that my machine is compromised. The password is quite strong. Are you sure its easy to investigate ? I've contacted their support already. Hoping to hear from them sooner than later.
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the password is definitely unique to this site.
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Attention users of primedice!!
I just created a new account with primedice and made a deposit. As I was playing, the BTC got withdrawn all of a sudden. It's either someone from the primedice team or a hacker who got hold of their database. Did anyone face this issue ?
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Locking this thread. The loan is funded through PM. thanks
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I feel you. but with my experience here, nobody is going to lend you money without a valid collateral. Try making some money in the services section. It's less but try your luck there
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Oh its you again?! So hows the investigation going on that $5 for sign up? Wasted your 30 minutes eh?  Detective, What do you mean by "Oh its you again?!" ? I created this post, you intercepted it. |
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Why would you point me to the valid collateral thread when you don't think my collateral is invalid ? for fun ? And stop investigating if you have no interests in funding this loan. How does that matter when I bought the domain ? what matters is how much it's worth.
Self appointing themselves as moderators has become the new trend of spamming on this forum.
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Offer another kind of collateral, its very seldom or I would say only once in a blue moon that a lender here accepts a domain as a collateral. if you have no other collateral to offer better lock this thread. Here, read this about whats a valid collateral and what is not considered as a collateral https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.msg6311902#msg6311902I did read that thread before posting this. Domain names are included in the list and mine is definitely worth more than 120% than what I'm asking. May be you should read the thread carefully before commenting ? |
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Why shouldn't I ? I tried with Loan Shark and when he says it's not possible, I tried with ZazarB. What's wrong in that ? |
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Hi,
Would someone be interested in lending 0.01 BTC against my domain boostco.in as collateral ? I will repay 0.011 on 2nd Jan if not sooner.
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Loan Amount: 0.01
Reason for Taking out a Loan: Personal
Amount to be repaid: 0.011
Repayment Date: 2nd Jan
Type of Collateral: My domain boostco.in
Bitcoin Address: 15mCMvSaCYdK3eKzonyvbzGfpfNR26DUXZ
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