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1401  Local / Guide (Italiano) / Re: Come entrare nel mercato Bitcoin online? (guida alla Postepay e altro...) on: September 26, 2013, 07:30:47 PM
Cosa ne pensi della conferma via sms?

Per esempio: Il venditore manda un sms al numero del compratore con scritto: acquisto 3 btc da bitcointalk.org ore 14:00. E ovviamente il compratore dovrà copiare e incollare il messaggio e riinviarlo al venditore.

Secondo me le batte tutte.

L'unica cosa che ci guadagni è un numero di telefono come riferimento (anche se è facile farsene uno fake appositamente). Puo' scoraggiare gli inoltratori improvvisati che magari non hanno un numero usa e getta sotto mano e non vogliono darti il loro per ovvi motivi. Ma se uno si prepara prima è inutile: manderai l'sms al numero che lui ti fornisce e lui ti rimanda il messaggio che vuoi, senza che chi paga sappia nulla.
L'unico modo sicuro è richiedere una foto delle ricevute con un biglietto a fianco con su scritto un messaggio inequivocabile (esempio pagamento per utente ghibly79, forum bitcointalk.org" e magari anche il cellulare del venditore, sempre scritto su quel biglietto).
Per le ricariche online volendo si puo' chiedere la foto dello schermo con l'operazione visibile, e il solito bigliettino. Niente screenshots.

In ogni caso fate ben presente queste condizioni prima di concludere la vendita: se capiscono che la truffa sarà difficile/impossibile lasceranno perdere. Ed evitate anche che qualche compratore legit ma un po' imbranato perda/butti la ricevuta creandovi dubbi.
1402  Local / Mercato valute / Re: VENDO BITCOIN on: September 26, 2013, 02:30:39 PM
Lo schema sembra lo stesso di Robybit/Sellmybit/Bitliberty. Usate cautela e chiedete escrow.
1403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++ on: September 26, 2013, 01:40:43 PM
It would have been a total of 20k loss between yesterday and today, with the old max bet (assuming he would have followed the same pattern). Site would have been up 15000.
1404  Economy / Gambling / Re: Hi, guys, I (NAKOWA) was beaten. Today I lost 3k BTC. on: September 26, 2013, 12:44:54 AM
I agree that changing the rules without warning was a bit unfair. However you should realize he unwillingly did you a favor: you lost 3k with 80 max bet, with 320 you would have bet 4x, with the same exact pattern most likely, and would have lost 3x4=12k.

Lowering the max bet only had the effect of slowing down your gains, so you felt like going on for much longer, eventually losing.




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02:14:27 (1) <dooglus> so the change isn't permanent.

So, can I interpret this as: the change was made specifically for me? only because I always win (bit, and legit).  I'm somehow disappointed.

You shouldn't: he has the right to lower the max bet if the house is taking too much losses and cannot afford. It's his business, he must manage it properly to avoid the risk of going broken. He lowered it while you were by far on top. Had he lowered while you were losing you could have had a point.
You and you only chose to try to win more under the new rules.
1405  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: September 25, 2013, 04:45:31 PM
18:36:09 (153338) <percent> I'm DONE. pulling back 2976 coins. NEW RULES KILLED ME.


UTTERY STUPIDITY  TO CHASE THE WHALE AWAY.

WE WOULD HAVE BEEN +10,000 TODAY.
You want to invest in a site which can swing 10,000 BTC per day on a 30k bankroll? Most do not nor was that the intended design.

Agreeable point, but as I said, WORST TIMING EVER xDD
1406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: September 25, 2013, 04:24:49 PM
Considering he lost 3k now, the site would have been up 7k again if max bet wasn't changed (3k*4=12k, so +7k starting from -5k). Bad timing ^^'
1407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: September 21, 2013, 02:51:08 PM
Just give 10 btc each to all in this thread till now and you can go away with no regrets Wink
1408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: September 21, 2013, 09:28:22 AM
so how much did he win last time?

Some 2400
1409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game on: September 21, 2013, 09:27:48 AM
Then why does he win every single time that he plays?

Cause he played big only like .... 5-6 times.... Wink
1410  Economy / Securities / Re: Open Investigation into Just-Dice/Dooglus on: September 21, 2013, 09:21:22 AM
I'll acknowledge that the domain argument is not very powerful, however it is clear that my concern is not unwarranted.  It is very improbable for a casino to receive 1.2M bitcoins wagered and still tread far below their expected profit.

Not improbable when one guy does single bets that high (100-500 btc a go). As I wrote in the other thread, many players had doubled/tripled or even more small bankrolls, eventually losing. Not so surprising for a guy with a 10k+ bankroll to win 8k (80%).

It's like winning 8 btc starting with 10, doing 0.1-0.5 btc single bets. Not unlikely at all, seen it hundreds of times.
1411  Economy / Gambling / Re: Open Investigation into Just-Dice/Dooglus on: September 21, 2013, 09:15:58 AM
I don't understand how it is so surprising that a guy with a bankroll of around 10k can win some 8k. I did triple or even quadruple little bankrolls before, and I'm sure many other players did (even more than 4x, losing eventually).
He just won +80%.

I understand investors' frustration and you may argue if 1% edge is too low or max bet too high, but suspecting a scam after some rich guy won 80% of his bankroll is plainly dumb.
1412  Economy / Gambling / Re: Letsdice the new dice mode - invitation code on: September 19, 2013, 04:16:25 PM
Reward scheme seems to work well at the moment, so get in with my expecially lucky link Wink  --> https://letsdice.com/?invite_info=237
1413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++ on: September 19, 2013, 02:45:05 PM
Had 8.8.8.8 before, switched recently. Will try changing again thx.

[EDIT] worked: changed back to 8.8.8.8 and ipconfig /flushdns
1414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++ on: September 19, 2013, 02:41:57 PM
Is the site up and so it's only me?
1415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Just-Dice.com : Play or Invest : 1% House Edge : Banter++ on: September 19, 2013, 12:09:18 PM
1416  Local / Mercato valute / Re: [COMPRO] [ESCROW] 4 Bitcoin pagamento PostePay o PostaGiro on: September 16, 2013, 07:08:08 PM
molto inteeressante. BTC-e è un servizio sicuro??

BTC-e é sicuro. Mai avuto problemi con loro. Ma é scomodo aspettare per il deposito SEPA.

Bene. Ma alcuni hanno avuto grossi ritardi nell'accredito, quindi riporto.
1417  Local / Mercato valute / Re: [COMPRO] [ESCROW] 4 Bitcoin pagamento PostePay o PostaGiro on: September 16, 2013, 06:19:23 PM
In teoria sì, ma solo tramite bonifico.
Ma se non ti accreditano i soldi dovrai rivolgerti all'assistenza (gestito da russi e talvolta ritardano molto a rispondere).
Mi pare tu debba fornire scansioni di documenti, leggi bene tutte le loro faq.

Chiaramente per cifre non enormi è molto piu' comodo da venditori privati, anche se con un sovrapprezzo (comodità e sicurezza si pagano).
1418  Local / Mercato valute / Re: [COMPRO] [ESCROW] 4 Bitcoin pagamento PostePay o PostaGiro on: September 16, 2013, 05:26:16 PM
Dai un occhio al sito in firma, veloce e sicuro. Tieni conto che non accettiamo pagamenti effettuati da conti bancoposta (non verrà inviato alcun bitcoin), causa alto rischio di truffe.
1419  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▂ ▃ ▄ ▅ ▆[VENDO]Bitcoin a prezzi pazzi!! PREZZO MTGOX meno 5 EURO CAD!!▆ ▅ ▄ ▃ ▂ on: September 16, 2013, 04:48:29 PM
Non si potrebbe fare, per questioni di tracciabilità: le prepagate può ricaricarle solo il titolare per effettuarci poi dei pagamenti. Attenendosi strettamente alle disposizioni è cosi' (è una legge, o circolare, o salcazzo del 2012 se non erro).

In pratica un buon 50% te la fa lo stesso (dalle mie parti, magari altrove di piu' o di meno).
1420  Local / Mercato valute / Re: [COMPRO] Bitcoin : Pago con postepay / bonifico on: September 16, 2013, 03:37:05 PM
Probabile truffatore: mi ritrovo 250 euro a due giorni di distanza dopo una trattativa rimasta in sospeso, e dice di non avere la ricevuta (nonostante gli avessi detto di tenerla). Non mi ha fornito nessun dato personale e non risponde piu' ai pm da 2 giorni (comportamento altamente improbabile per chi ha 250 euro in ballo).
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