I wonder if the airflow was maybe changed by people running them with the lid off? Or worse, fans firing in the wrong direction and fighting the cooling fans? I've seen gaming PCs with a mess made of them by people running them open and blasting air in at the wrong angle and stopping the CPU fans doing their job well enough. More air flow isn't always a good thing if it's not flowing properly and to the right areas.

Have a check on the KnC forum for what other people have shared about that and other issues. Easy enough to read what's on there as it's quiet and avoid or fix and problems

I came across this last week, god knows about the rig, could be complete twaddle..but the payment model looks a way things could work well for the future. Half up front, half on delivery? http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html

Compo looks fair for the hosted guys, for sure BFL wouldn't dream of ever doing anything like that. I think this is a steep learning curve on the basic logistics for KnC and next time around will be pretty much flawless. If there is a gen 2 and it's worth buying.

Jesus. That's yours? 

You're probably right about cloudhashing despite what they say about order priority by paid date. IS there some reason why they couldn't have a set of simple racks and a basic network up and running LONG before it was needed though? It is a very basic network required, and hundreds of companies offer services to instal them cheaply enough, in fact the electrical wiring needs to be done by someone qualified to be legal. Apart from the millions in pre-order cash, they also had a sack of cash prepaid fr hosting to fund it. No reason all this wasn't  done long ago makes sense.

All over the web they are patting their own backs about the 1st 28nm rig in record time and over spec. ..the reality is that not many are where they should and easily could have been by now..in customers hands hashing, they are in bits or in boxes in Sweden where they may as well be block eruptors for all the hashing they are doing.

You're joking right? They post pics of them building racks, people say it doesn't look like they have it ready (including an electrician who does it for a living) and get shot down by fanboys who seem to accept anything thrown at them? How about another simple scenario, KnC tell early order number customers that they won't be ready in x number of days and would they like their rig/s shipped instead (because as they keep saying - they know it's time critical).

A decision to pay hosting based on it being ready as promised isn't a mistake made by the customer, it's a fucking huge let down by the company who weren't waiting for a chip or parts to get that part of the job up and tested long before it was needed.

If it's running by wednesday how is he ahead? It should have been running almost a week now...and if he'd had it next day delivery almost as long based on KnC promises and even statements made days ago on video that day 2 was shipping "today" and day2 "tomorrow" ....which never happened.

Oh, and wine is a drink..it's whine when you complain.

YEAH, TOO FUCKING RIGHT. Rigs are turning up with damaged boxes and with loose parts already. Go check the KnC forum.
Of course, maybe you think producing a machine worth thousands that needs to work from the day it arrives then packing it in second rate flimsy packaging is a good idea? It's moronic to save a few seconds and a dollar on packaging to risk the rigs being damaged.

What happens when your machine turns up broken? Think that's going to be a time saver? Think it's going to mine more coins? You'd be gutted, you'd lose money and have to somehow get it fixed or replaced....all because of a tiny last minute skimping on packing.  

The tape is the least problem, nothing to support the fans, holes in boxes because of nothing to reinforce the sides ...like shredded cardboard or inflated plastic bags....normal cheap stuff for most fragile items sent by post.

He tried to share what he saw PERSONALLY.
So we could decide what we were going to do with more info.

KnC are great at ASICs, piss poor at logistics. Not his fault.
Most other vendors would be shipping you a .psd in this timeframe.

He didn't provide a service, it was a favour. To us and to KnC (who aren't exactly the best at communication either).

My only criticism is that he can't box up worth a wank...you always make sure that tape sticks to itself and not just the edges of the cardboard which is very weak as it's designed to adhere to tape. I hope none bust out and get damaged because of that...that would be such a bad thing for the lack of a few seconds taping securely.

It's got a couple of large boats. They are in the video. Unusual I thought. It's hardly IBM I think

I've had UPS deliver on Saturday.

Agreed. It has already bounced back a fair way. Also the news stories will be much more acceptable to those who had a dim view of BTC having heard of SR. Those stories were never positive. Someone I know that I mentioned bitcoin to knew nothing except "that's where the pedos buy kiddy porn isn't it?? I read about that." People believe more than  they should in the media. :/

Seen this ? www.plus500.co.uk/ ..unless you mean just buying to hold. Recovering now, catching that little spike with leverage would have been nice. lol

Gravity.

This is what they have to say:-

Following a briefing Tuesday from U.S. Customs and Border Protection, officials at CME said the shutdown would have virtually no effect on companies because most of the agency’s 59,000 employees have been deemed essential and will continue to work.

One less thing to worry about.

I'd like to see that tape right round that box, I've had much less important and lighter items burst out in the past.

I hope everyone's got a cable to plug these babies into the router...didn't see one in the vid and that would be annoying

Giving freebies to bloggers and grabbing any opp for an interview looks good too. BFL look awesome and sound awesome until you get to know the reality, sadly that took too long for a lot of people, but they will require a whole new bunch of suckers now it's clear their bragging is a load of bollocks and other people can do so much better.

I still think Josh should be sent a cake with his words about KnC not being able to do September iced on the top so he can eat his words.

Fair enough on shipped rigs, but doesn't explain no hosted rigs hashing does it? Their schedule for those was hours after leaving the production line, which I always thought optimistic, but a day ..should be a few surely?

According to what they said today was to be day 2 and day 1 was shipped yesterday.
This silence routine at crucial times is irritating.

Sounds fair.

A PDF download of a manual would be a wise thing to have available now they are shipping. In fact we would have been better to have it in advance. Can't be a large thing to produce after all.

Save loads of questions.