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1401  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: March 05, 2017, 08:38:19 PM
I plan to sell them only when I need them.
I mean to say ,
I will try to retain my bitcoins as much as possible,
This is because i have seen in past couple of years how it's price has shooter up.
Now I realise that had I even invested 100 $ ,
I could have got huge profit and now I regret.
The patterns of the increse in the cost of bitcoins will continue.
So I would like to retain them as much as possible.
They are a kind of form of investment for me.


Well if bitcoin is a pure form of investment for you then its better to hold them for a long term as it will surely give you profits in long term as price is moving up at a moment and if ETF gets approval next week then we may be seeing much higher price of bitcoins and that would be the perfect time to sell some of them to accumulate profits and some of them should be kept safe in wallet to gain higher benefits and profits in future.
1402  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I have about 50$ where to invest ? on: March 05, 2017, 08:35:55 PM
You can't invest that into something decent, I'm afraid at this current rates, but you can always try to check out the altcoin section to see whether there are some promising coins that can be invested to. When I'm short on hot btc, I am using my spare btc to buy in on some small shares on the altcoin section, usually some of the ICOs in there.

If you have a plan to invest in altcoins then you need to monitor the chart very closely and take an decision accordingly as not every time you will be making an correct decision and sometimes your decision may even go wrong so you need to be very careful before investing your money in any particular coin and if you are spending enough time on this forum then it will give you an clear picture of where to invest and where to not.
1403  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: March 05, 2017, 08:28:50 PM
Didn't notice that there was a match going on between England and West Indies.England still needs 75 runs to win the match with four wickets in hand chasing a low score made by West Indies ,i still think England could win this match as the spinners who troubled the English batsmen bowled their entire quota of overs and with Root in the crease they will win  .

England is about to win and it was a good comeback after loosing some early wickets and they also have an advantage of home ground and its not that high score to chase and now England need only 33 runs from 54 balls which is not a big deal and thanks to the innings from Joe Root which made chase look even easier in tough situations.
1404  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In which bitcoin gambling casinos should i invest my bitcoins ? on: March 05, 2017, 08:25:48 PM
According to my consciencement, Coinroyale.com is the biggest and best ever in which you can invest and gamble your bitcoins. You will also get 100% bonus upon your first deposit when using code WECOMEBTC. They let you cashout fast. Although, there is a small risk involvement in it.

It looks like OP is asking to invest in gambling bankrolls not to gamble. Not only coinroyale, but most of the casinos are also giving these 100% bonuses for your first deposit. But gambling is very risky compared to investing on those casino bankrolls. I choose to invest on few good casino bankrolls than just putting my money on any one site.

Either you directly gamble with your money or invest in any casino bankrolls the risk of loosing money will always follow you as you never know how long that casino sites will survive and how long they will keep on sharing profits with you and that makes it an very risky affair so I would surely prefer not to invest my my neither in gambling nor in casino sites.
1405  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [FACTS] Litecoin is the only legit Altcoin ! on: March 05, 2017, 08:22:38 PM
I don't agree on the fact that litecoin is only a legit coin as there are many other coins like xmr, etc, eth and zcash that are surviving from a long time and that makes them legit as if you invest in those coins there is least chance of loosing your money but the same feeling doesn't goes for litecoin as it may disappear in coming time period.
1406  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What can i do with Bitcoin? on: March 05, 2017, 06:29:47 PM
you can make more money with bitcoin
invest somethings else or make a new business with bitcoin
or exchange it in platform

Bitcoin is only currency that keeps on growing in its value over a period of time so even if you don't do anything to do and simply save them in your wallet still you can expect higher source of income in future as everyone is hoping to see higher price in future so in that case if you manage to hold enough volume of bitcoins in your wallet then it will be profitable decision to make.
1407  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you always missed the right time to sell/buy bitcoin? on: March 04, 2017, 11:03:58 PM
I would not says every time is being missed because to get the perfect timing is like either you exactly know that this situation will be happening or else it is just a coincided that you buy and prices drop or rise vice versa. Also many things are not in one's control so timing the buy/sell would I say may not be at all easy job.

So the question is do you always missed the right time for buying or selling your bitcoin? We know that we don't control but if you will have enough time to monitor the movement of bitcoins price. You can have the control on selling it and take the chance to get profit of doing both buying and selling. It just a matter of time and patience.

It is right, but i believe many trader missing a lot of chances but not always. Because in trading, we are confused, whenever we are selling our coins, because we think may be in the next time, coins will be increased more, and in this situation sometime we get lose. So you are right, we need patience and trading is time taking work.
Being patience is the key in being successful in any kind of field especially on trading bitcoins and while you are patient then try to study or read some news,articles or any kind of information that can help you to have a point of view whether you will sell it or continue hodling it for a bit longer.

Selling bitcoins is not difficult job as you will only sell when it exceeds your buying price but no one can be sure what is the best price to buy bitcoins as if we buy today at certain price then we may see price drop even at a very next day and in that case we would regret for buying at a higher price so its difficult to come to conclusion that what is the perfect time to buy bitcoins.
1408  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: March 04, 2017, 11:01:47 PM
just throw a little to get a profit when the price of bitcoin go to $10k 2017 - 2018

i'll be waiting to see this price in 2017-2018 if its really happen and i am sure it will. i already selling my bitcoin for $12xx and i made a profit from there and i still have another bitcoin in my wallet, i think i will wait for a moment in case i see there are up trends in this week and next week and i hope i am right to hold it for now until the price is increase more.
The price is good at that time and it is now the max of all the time from the day it started but I think it is not the right time and I am willing to see its price upto $2000 in 2017 And I am pretty much hopeful for that I think in march its price rise more so, now I am just waiting and watching the price to increase.

$2000 price is possible to achieve at the end of the year and it may not reach there in march as it will too early to expect that high price in quick time but I am hoping to see the price of $1500 in march so I will prefer to hold my coins till that point of time and will sell some of them if it touches that price and if not then will hold them till the end of the year and sell when it reaches to my expected level.
1409  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: March 04, 2017, 10:55:40 PM
The best choice is not to sell everything all you have. It is best to be wise good enough not to sell all but it is good atleast to save any amount for the future that later on you can gain profit well. As you can observe, price is very high at the moment and later you can sell it with a good value, good price and good profit...

Yup and if you sell everything at once then you will surely regret in future when you will see much higher price of bitcoins as prices is going higher at a moment and once the adoption reaches to its peak we may will be seeing much higher price of bitcoins so if you managed to save enough bitcoins now then it will help you in making higher profits in future.
1410  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: March 04, 2017, 10:53:36 PM
I will always prefer to invest them on trading sites and may be in future I will try to invest in casino sites but still I am not aware about it so I am preferring to stay away from and will only invest if I have completed faith in it.

I would not try to gamble. This is the shortest route to the loss of all assets. That is why I avoid these sites. I prefer to invest in reliable projects.
as well as investing in gambling, there is no guarantee to get profit in this gambling investment because you will also each other to win a fortune with the player to win
but i think gambling can't be considered as the investment. gambling it looks like just betting our money. And it was very far to be considered as the investment place.

ALL investment is gambling because u can not predict future ONLY guess.
Gambling is so risky so why invest into gambling site if you have no sure if your bitcoin getting profit or lose.  I think its better to invest in trading site to get more profit. Gambling site i don't know why theirs alot now launching and open i think this is the easy way to gathered bitcoin.
I usually invest a little bit in new gambling sites, and if they go big I can easily make a large margin of profit. It's risky stuff compared to other things but still better than gambling outright or Ponzi schemes. I'm talking about the bankroll and not actually gambling, of course, even though investing is also not completely risk free.

House always wins so its better to invest in casino bankrolls to get regular profits instead of putting money directly in gambling where the chances of making profits is too low and if you invest in reputed gambling sites then there is no fear of loosing your money and you can get decent returns at regular intervals and its much better choice then investing in any cloud mining or other ponzi schemes.
1411  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How did you first hear about bitcoin? on: March 04, 2017, 10:49:33 PM
Are you a bitcoin fan?
Do you spend a lot of time on bitcoin? Reading news, trading, or even writing your own analysis.
But how did you first hear about bitcoin?
Is it some articles you read about? Or just from a friend who has traded bitcoin for a long time?

Share your experience with us. Grin
Ive first heard about bitcoin with my friends at school . They introduce to me bitcoin on gambling . Actually one of my friend always give me tips and information about bitcoin and not just that the he also gave me a capital for me to start on bitcoin,
, but i used it on gambling. When he explain to me more about bitcoin thats the time i stop gambling and do forum instead. Because it is to risky to gamble. When i do forum i learned more things about bitcoin like signature campaign anf trading.

Majority of us are part of bitcoin community only because of our friends who introduced us to bitcoins and we should be thankful to them for that but its not wise to introduce someone directly to gambling with bitcoins as it may make you loose all your money at an early stage and it might create an negative impression of bitcoins in your mindsets but its good that you have quit gambling and have chosen the safer ways of earning bitcoins.
1412  Other / Off-topic / Re: How are you earning BTC? on: March 04, 2017, 10:46:13 PM
Actuary i am  working hard in other to get my bitcoin  with faucet assignment every day but it doesn't flow.  well i am always looking for an opportunity where i reach a level of having signature .

 

I also tried faucets but I think I will be waiting years to make myself earn some, not bitcoins but satoshi. But I cant do other things to earn some so I need to be patient.

Once you reach to a jr member or member level you can start participating in signature campaign and that will give you better earnings in compare to faucets and you can also check the services section where you can offer your services if you have any good skills and that will multiply your earnings and if you can't manage to do that then option of faucets is always open for you but its not worth to waste time on those sites as at the end of the day you will not be satisfied with your earnings.
1413  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: March 04, 2017, 10:43:14 PM
Trading and knowing how to do it is the most valuable and efficient way to get bitcoin.
You just need to know what to look out for (the signals) on the market before they happen to be successful.
As price fluctuations were taking place regularly it's good to involve into trading than investing for a better earning. Right now the small difference occurring will get traders a good profit. The price went close to $1290 and right now it's close to $1260. This difference will vary once time changes. So need to move the bitcoin with proper profit margin to earn good.

Exactly the price is moving up and down so best way to make profits in quick time is through trading bitcoins as even a small fluctuation can give good profits and even investing in altcoin seems to be a good choice as it can give you unexpected results in quick time if you invest at a right time so trading seems to be a best possible option at a moment for earning descent amount of bitcoins.
But pls dont forget the risk. You are right the profit is really remarkable, but I have to say the loss also can be huge. As a short trader, I am one of the best example. I recover my loss, but it was not easy.

Trading is not always all about profit, it is also have risks because it is considered gambling. You must know what you are doing, if you dont, you are just letting yourself be eaten by the system. Try to take it slow.

Trading cannot be treated as a gambling if you have good knowledge and strategy before investing and it can be same as gambling only you are depending only on luck for making profits but I don't think that people would be blindly investing their money in trading without any knowledge and trading is always better then gambling to make regular profits.
1414  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: March 04, 2017, 07:28:18 PM
The most popular investment for your bitcoin is to use them on trading. Grab the chance to buy a coins at a cheaper price and wait for them til they get rise.
To make trading bitcoins you have invest to it really big money. Bitcoin costs really a lot now and not everyone have 1200$ to by a bitcoin and wait some weeks to catch the rise like +100$. I think for someone, who can't allow himself to buy bitcoin for today's price, it's a bit late to start to trade with bitcoin.

If the current price is not affordable to buy then its good to buy them in small parts and invest in altcoins with low rates and if the price of that particular altcoin boosts up in coming days then it can give him good profits as making profits from bitcoin will take a long time as price is too high at a moment and we are not sure whether price will go higher or lower in coming days but if you are looking to buy bitcoins then better to wait for few days for price drop.
There are many altcoin that can gives you a good profit if you invest if you are not wise in choosing what altcoin to invest you will be lose theres still a risk about buying altcoin so think twice and choose that can actually makes you profit for me top 20 are most of the altcoin the best to choose to make profit ,.

You can choose altcoins that are surviving since long time like ETC, ETH, XMR they also have good volume and they will never disappear in quick time and it may take some time for making profits out of them but for investing in those coins is safe instead of investing in any shit coins that may disappear in quick time which would invite huge loss for us and patience is key if you want to make profits from altcoin trading.
1415  Local / Nederlands (Dutch) / Re: Dagboek van een bitcoin-belegger: kun je slapend rijk worden? on: January 12, 2014, 10:57:37 AM
Ik las laatst ook ergens dat je op mtgox tegenwoordig soms wel 4 weken moet wachten tot je je euro's weer hebt.
1416  Local / Nederlands (Dutch) / Re: Ghash.io pool bereikte 45% on: January 09, 2014, 09:29:46 PM
Schrikbarend hoeveel mensen er zelfs op tweakers niets van snappen....
Maar goed, ik begrijp dat de pool al aan het afslanken is.
1417  Local / Beurzen / Re: Stamp > Gox arbitrage on: January 06, 2014, 01:58:18 PM
Wat raar. Je zou denken dat ze het geld moeten hebben omdat andere mensen je coins kopen die dat geld gestort moeten hebben. Of zijn ze gehackt en geld kwijt?
1418  Local / Beurzen / Re: Stamp > Gox arbitrage on: January 06, 2014, 12:56:47 PM
Ik volg bitcoin de laatste tijd niet zo heel goed meer. Wat is er aan de hand met gox?
1419  Local / Nederlands (Dutch) / Re: 2013-12-17 TROS Radar 'De schuldvraag' over fract. bankieren on: December 21, 2013, 11:49:17 AM
Stel nou dat er een bank komt met een bitcoin rekening. Je kan je bitcoins op die rekening storten en daarna gewoon met een pinpas betalen precies hoe je het nu ook doet in de winkel. De winkel merkt er niets van, die krijgt gewoon zijn euro's en de bank haalt met de huidige bitcoin/euro koers wat bitcoins van jou rekening.
Daarmee heb je de confirmation delay van een uur van bitcoins opgelost voor de winkels.

Maar! De bitcoins die de bank voor jou beheert zodat je er mee kan pinnen in eurowinkels kunnen ze gewoon uitlenen aan mensen die bitcoins willen lenen.
Stel nou dat ik 100 BTC op mijn rekening gestort heb en dat ze daarvan 97% mogen uitlenen.
Iemand die de 97 BTC leent en uitgeeft aan iets of iemand die ze ook weer op zo'n rekening zet zorgt voor 97 'nieuwe' BTC die de bank heeft. Hiervan lenen ze weer 97% dus 94,09 BTC uit.
Als deze weer op dezelfde manier binnenkomt kunnen ze weer 91,2673 BTC uitlenen.
Etc... totaal wordt het bij 97% 33 keer zoveel BTC in omloop.

Oplossing hiervoor is dus heel simpel zeggen de meeste mensen, je gaat geen banken meer gebruiken maar zelf de bitcoin beheren. Waardoor de confirmation delay weer terug is.
Ik weet niet hoe het met jullie zit, maar als ik mijn loon krijg en nog wat gespaard heb en straks met 5000 euro aan BTC op mijn mobiel loop vind ik dat eigenlijk een beetje eng met betrekking tot diefstal en overval.
Als het via een bank systeem verzekerd is vind ik dat een veel fijner gevoel.

Wat ook een groot nadeel is van alleen nog je eigen geld beheren en de banken totaal overboord zetten is dat er dan bijna niemand meer een huis kan gaan kopen.
Als ik geen hypotheek meer kan nemen om een huis te hebben moet ik dus eerst zelf sparen tot ik een huis kan kopen. Stel dat iemand bij zijn ouders thuis woont en 1000 euro per maand kan sparen en een huisje wilt kopen van 200k dan is hij 200 maanden dus ruim 16 jaar bezig om te sparen voor een huis!
Als je dan op de 16e begint (dan is die 1000 euro sparen niet echt reeel maar goed..) kan je op je 32e eindelijk uit huis!
1420  Local / Nederlands (Dutch) / Re: Jumbo aan de bitcoin on: December 11, 2013, 07:09:49 AM
Hi Zimmah,

Interessant. Maar de uitdaging is nog wel de bevestigingstijd voor transacties. Meestal is 10 minuten - 30 minuten (voor bijvoorbeeld 1 tot 3 bevestigingen van het netwerk) wachten geen probleem, maar zeker bij supermarkten moet men direct weten of de betaling in orde is of niet.

onbevestigde transacties zijn voor supermarkten niet zo'n probleem, de kans dat een klant de transactie terugdraait is nihil. De kans is groter dat een klant de bank opbelt om de pintransactie terug te draaien.

Om een transactie terug te kunnen draaien moet:

1) De fee van de onbevestigde transactie heel laag zijn (zodat er een kans is dat die genegeerd word door miners)
2) De fee van de dubbel-spending transactie vrij hoog zijn (zodat die prioriteit krijgt)
3) De dubbel-spend transactie moet hooguit enkele minuten plaatsvinden na de orginele transactie (dus de persoon moet dat in het openbaar doen).
4) De dubbel-spend transactie moet een zeer goede verbinding met alle bitcoin nodes hebben om te garanderen dat deze eerder plaatsvind dan de werkelijke transactie.

Of anders moet de klant over een netwerk van supercomputers bezitten die over ongeveer 6 Petahash per seconde beschikt om het bitcoin netwerk aan te vallen.

Daarnaast kunnen ze natuurlijk ook via bitpay werken.

@Anon het is juist het beste als we met zijn allen mailen in plaats van 1 persoon, ze zullen eerder naar een groep mensen luisteren dan naar een individu.
2) De fee van de dubbel-spending transactie (waarin ik natuurlijk BTC overmaak naar een ander adres van mezelf) moet dus lager zijn dan het totaal van de originele transactie. Of wel, als ik voor 0.1 BTC boodschappen doe moet ik een transactie met bijvoorbeeld 0.05 BTC fee versturen om al 0.05 BTC winst te hebben. Goed te doen dus.
3) Een transactie is zeer snel over het netwerk versprijd dus ook bij mijn computer thuis die mijn adressen kent en dus automatisch zo'n dubbel-spending transactie uitvoerd.
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