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C'est une des premières utilisations évidentes!
Oui la blockchain bien utilisée c'est la mort des notaires! Et franchement qui s'en plaindra (à part les notaires eux-mêmes)?
C'est une profession sans compétence particulière dont la principale vocation est de prendre note ^^
Prendre acte plutôt
Et avec la blockchain plus besoin d'un tiers de confiance pour acter un achat de bien immobilier =D
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see the luck 65+ I LOVE PD   The guy just registered a day ago and he is on 65+ profit. And he is betting on 11X, I wish I can also have such bets. Its amazing and today PD is so crazy. Looks like people are winning big nowadays. unfortunately he is already lose now   Thanks for sharing this! He's a crazy guy though... I can hardly imagine betting something like 13 000 dollars... The guys actually won 65 000$! That's like 2 or 3 years of salary of low wage in developped countries! Who in his right mind bets with such amount? >< |
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Currently, the easiest way to convert money into bitcoins is through Localbitcoins.
You can use Coinbase also but it will take some of your personal Info.
It's not what is asked there though... Local bitcoin is good, sure. I mean I use it at least once a month whatever the change. But here OP is asking for a DIRECT transformation. Like something immediate! And sadly it just doesn't happen... |
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To be honest, the project I am looking forward to is this ---> http://www.augmentorsgame.com/ { I saw it on this forum under the Press section } and I think this might be the killer App everyone is waiting for to open the door to mainstream adoption. If this goes viral like the PokeMon game, then we will be in for a rough ride. 1. "Pokemon Go" went viral only because it the game has Pokemon in it, well known brand, known by pretty much anyone. If the game was based around new concept of battle using something different that Pokemon, its success would be very limited. Indeed. And the new aspect of the game was important too. Now if you look around it seems like no one is playing this :p 2. I visited this site, and first thing I noticed: "TOKEN SALE" and "ICO", so they just want to develop a game and link it to their token, not base it on Bitcoin?
It seems like a huge scam yeah... You can buy in game currency and all they're saying is that the tokens will be "supported by btc blockchain" (I don't see how and they don't explain it) So that number of currency is limited and can be tracked. For me it's clearly a scam. False investment. And the entry price for the lowest package is 0.136BTC!!!! Who in his right mind would invest more than 100$ in a game made by unknown people without even a demo? xD |
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if guns are outlawed only outlaws will have them  Venezuela and Honduras are the nations with the highest firearm-related death rate. And both of these nations have some of the toughest gun ownership restriction in the world. And more over, there are just 6.4 guns per 100 people in Honduras, compared to 31.6 per 100 in Sweden. But there are 67.18 firearm-related deaths per 100,000 in Honduras, while the rate for Sweden is just 1.47 per 100,000. Yeah but gun restriction laws must be supported by an actual legal system, an actual police and an actual economy behind. Of course if your police is corrupted as fuck, that you're economy is completely destroyed, gun regulation won't change a thing. In such countries, law don't apply. |
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Hey man
You should add yolo dice I believe!
It's brand new but already got its own sig campaign!
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Seller went first  account works (will see how long). Lifetime. I wont risk my reputation for few bucksThanks for a vouch! 8 more leftYou're a newbie with 28 posts including this one. You don't have a reputation. Moreover no one can guarantee an account lifetime. Apart from that this sale might be completely legit. But you're far under usual price, might seem a bit fishy. Accounts are shared I guess? |
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Well most important innovation might be Segwit...
But we're still for it.
As far as I know there was a very cool rise in Segwit acceptance but now it's stagnating.
We're currently at around 25% of segwit acceptance.
So still 70% to go :/
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I have met with this problem several times and many others too met with this problem. We consider global accessibility a great advantage of BTC with very good reason. Technically, BTC is available from anywhere, anytime. The issue is coming down to communication. Assuming that your partner is not a BTC holder already, how do you have him exchange his money into BTC?
Even when BTC has these advantages, other payment processors have not and when people have to exchange money from any other payment processor into BTC, transaction issue comes from the other payment processor like PP holding back money or certain banks do not execute transactions in certain time intervals. How do we get around this?
I thought a payment processor where you can pay with a simple SMS or call from your phone credits and receive some BTC would be very useful.
I see what you mean, and there is none... I had to add the Paypal payment possibility simply because of what you're saying. No matter what BTC isn't that easy to buy. You can buy services and products in BTC only if you're already a user. Otherwise... So if you can, go for Paypal, it's not as good as BTC but it's still not the usual banking system so... |
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Is bitcoin expected to rise immediately on the 20th?
I'd rather say it might go down... Trump might become a problem. Simply because Trump is against China. He wants nothing linked to China. And BTC is linked to China... |
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I'm just saying that you're barely humans
Yes! they should have stayed at home while OUR ARMIES are bombing the shit out of them after OUR COUNTRIES AND GOVERNMENTS destabilized entire regions of the world...
You're the kind of people saying USA should have never helped Europe in WW2 I guess no?
We're not all from USA, you know? Good point though, you made thy mess, ya fix it  Well vast majority are from USA or Europe, and both are fully responsible for this mess as you say! I don't know if we can fix it... But what's sure is that we're not "victims". We're freaking aggressors. |
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Wonderful news! Close to a hundred invaders perished, while trying to invade the European continent. These guys must have stayed at home, rather than spending $10,000 to $15,000 in purchasing one-way tickets to Europe.
Yes! they should have stayed at home while OUR ARMIES are bombing the shit out of them after OUR COUNTRIES AND GOVERNMENTS destabilized entire regions of the world... You're the kind of people saying USA should have never helped Europe in WW2 I guess no? Wonderful news! Close to a hundred invaders perished, while trying to invade the European continent. These guys must have stayed at home, rather than spending $10,000 to $15,000 in purchasing one-way tickets to Europe.
What is money if you are living in hell. Libya is in a hellish condition with the poor having no worth and constant wars with food shortage everywhere then you will surely risk your life to get to somewhere else where you can find peace of heart and mind. If I were them I will also do the same, if only peace condition is good and the food is not scarce then they will no longer dream of going out of the country. I am no denying that Libya & Syria are war torn countries unfit for having normal life... but why all these refugees instead of seeking help from very rich Muslim countries - like Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia are fleeing to Europe? Which is far more exotic place for them? Aren't most of them Muslims, raised in similar environment and living by the same laws as their Muslim brethren? They already are. Stable Muslim countries are litteraly flooded with refugees. They welcome as many as they can but there are dozens of millions of refugees fleeing OUR ARMIES in Middle East... |
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The more I come on this part of the forum the more I lose faith in humanity...
You see a report saying the 100 people are dead, and people actually answer it's "wonderful"...
I mean I'm not "devastated" by this news, millions of people die every week. But I'm not happy of that and no one in his right mind should be...
Most of you are pure psychos. You will all die trying to protect a system that is blatantly unfair... But just because you're on the good side of it. You will die for this but the worst part is that your children will have the worst possible world they could hope for, just because you're far too selfish to understand the reality and face it like decent humans.
And I'm not saying "you're racist" or "we should all welcome the migrants". I'm just saying that you're barely humans and are without a doubt the kind of people responsible for the doom of the West. Like every Empire has been doomed by its privileged and decaying citizens.
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Awesome. Absolutely awesome.
You know another time where there was no or really low regulation?
1929.
No rule about wages.
No rule about employment.
You could do whatever you wanted however you wanted.
Ever read the grapes of wrath?
Cause that wasn't exactly a no unemployment world...
Oh really? So just all regulations went out the window. And you give me an example of the biggest financial crash when all properties prices went down due to stock market overleveraging, caused by a central bank controlled financial system. A central bank with nearly 0 regulation yes indeed. They had to report to no one and no one controlled their activity. As for the rating system which was completely uncontrolled. Huge lack of regulation here I agree But guess what without central banks, there was no economic collapse. Because the economy was "decentralized".
Claiming "if there was not that, it wouldn't have collapsed" isn't really an argument you understand that no?
That is right, once you centralize something, you have a command & control economy. And if those people at the top fuck up, then you are all fucked.
Unless the bottom has a control on the top. This is the concept of democracy, problem is there isn't a single real democracy in the world, Switzerland is what's closer to a democracy but even Switzerland isn't a democracy. USA, and whole Europe are oligarchies. That is why a decentralized economy is better, because it doesnt depend on a few people doing the right thing. Everyone can participate.
Which is also the case in a centralized democracy. And you do realize that decentralized doesn't mean deregulated don't you? I mean, those are really two different things... But you are probably a socialist, so I am just wasting my time arguing with you.
What are you doing in Bitcoin, if you believe the fully regulated financial system is perfect for you?
Oh ok no you don't understand the difference it seems... Regulation isn't centralization. You do realize that Bitcoin is heavily regulated right? I mean it's FAR more regulated than the normal economy... And that's also why I love it. Please look up a dictionary, look for the definitions of those 2 words then come back and we might discuss again. |
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La spéculation n'est que le produit de la valeur.
Ce n'est qu'un effet, pas une cause. De plus c'est une activité plutôt neutre, voir bénéfique*.
*Elle garanti plus facilement l'accès aux marchés financiers plus liquides, moins de spread et réduit ainsi la corruption et le pouvoir qui utilisaient jusque là ces inefficientes à leur escient.
Sauf qu'aujourdh'ui on constate un système de spéculation complètement opaque et détaché du réel, ayant ses propres codes langages et pouvoirs qui le rend aussi terrifiants que ce que tu décris. Oui la spéculation en soit n'a rien d'une activité répréhensible, pas quand elle permet simplement de fixer la valeur des choses matérielles. Elle a alors une utilité concrète dans l'économie. Mais quand la spéculation n'est accessible qu'à une caste minoritaire (ce qui est le cas, on a théoriquement tous accès à la spéculation mais clairement pas à armes égales) détachée de la réalité au point d'échanger des dizaines de millers de fois la production réelle de biens, elle devient une menace faisant peser un imapct important sur la société et cela sans fondement.
Si vous tenez vraiment abolir la spéculation pour une raison qui m'échappe, vous devez tuez l'Homme ou la Valeur, ce qui est impossible ou illusoire. Les seules expériences de monde sans valeur, sont les mondes sans incitant financier et privé. Vous l'avez devinez, c'est le communiste dans son idéal théorique, bonjour les dégâts...
Personnifier ou tenir des maux à la spéculation est démagogique, populiste et a des relents nauséabonds. Je répète ce n'est que du à la Valeur, la spéculation vient de cela, depuis que l'Homme existe. Impossible d'enlever cette notion.
On ne peut pas abolir la spéculation. En revanche on peut la réglementer. On peut par exemple interdire l'automatisation de la spéculation, pouvant entraîner des catastrophes en chaîne monstrueuses à cause d'un simple bug informatique sur un des robots tradeurs. On peut imposer une limite de temps entre deux transactions afin que celles-ci deviennent le fruit d'une réflexion et non juste une tentative de création abstraite de valeur. Enfin on pourrait aussi limiter l'échange de matières premières... Pas plus de 10 fois la quantité REELLE de matière par exemple. Abolir la spéculation n'a pas de sens, la réglementer en a beaucoup plus. Par exemple on pourrait interdire la spéculation sur les défauts d'assurance. Cela n'a aucun intérêt et ça aurait très probablement aidé à limiter les dégâts de la crise des subprimes. |
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Mais eeeeeeeeeeuh!
Je suis sûr que tu m'as compris en plus ^^
Spéculer sur une monnaie dont on considère que la spéculation est sa seule véritable utilisation... Ne sert à rien. Ou bien je ne te comprends pas ou bien ce que tu dis n'a réellement aucun sens mais il y a effectivement un problème quelque part. Toute monnaie a une et une seule utilisation de base : être échangée contre d'autres choses. La spéculation ne fait que découler de l'échange dans un système où le temps s'écoule et où les utilisateurs sont capables de faire des prévisions par rapport au futur. En ce qui concerne le bitcoin, étant donné son faible taux d'acceptation pour le moment, son marché de l'échange est très réduit, mais ça ne change rien en l'état. Donc non, la spéculation n'est pas "la seule véritable utilisation du bitcoin" : l'échange est son utilisation de base, or c'est la même chose pour toutes les autres monnaies.C'est pour ça que je dis préférer voir de réels utilisateurs du bitcoin intégrer le marché que des spéculateurs. Les spéculateurs ne sont utiles que s'il y a utilisation réelle de la monnaie c'est-à-dire échange contre biens et services. Sans ça la spéculation n'est rien de plus qu'un jeu sans aucune influence sur rien. Mais je n'ai pas dit que le bitcoin avait pour seule utilisation la spéculation. Je répondais à un autre post qui disait que le BTC servait uniquement à spéculer, et je dis que si une monnaie ne sert qu'à spéculer alors elle ne sert à rien. |
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Coinbase and Xapo cover the fees for users so newbies prefer to use them than other kinds of wallet. Well, we are all people and people love to use things which are given free. However, most of the third party wallet are not as secure as private wallets so that I never choose to use them. When you have learnt many things about Bitcoin, you will realize that holding Bitcoin for your own is always better
Not for micro transactions. I don't care maybe losing 10$ of btc but earning 30 cents every transactions... |
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Hey guys! I opened a thread not long ago to ask for opinions about web wallets! I clearly asked for a wallet where I had no need to pay fees. I got multiple answers and I thank everyone for that. I had a very unpleasant AND stupid private message from a Hero member so I thought about sharing both my tests and his message to you all. There is no wallet without fees!!
And even if there would be one what do you think is going to happen with your transaction if you're not even willing to pay a single satoshi??!!
Right the miners will give a fuck about your transaction!!
Always amazes me how stupid and ignorant people like you can be.
So in addition to the special rudeness of the sender who prefered insults to explanation, there is also the simple fact that there actually ARE wallets without fees. I tried a bit Xapo and it's rather good and WITHOUT FEES but of course you got no control over your money. Greenadress seems like the best for me but it does have a fee. Share your wallets ^^ |
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This is complete bullshit.
Why in hell should it be the case?
No it's you sir who is full of shit. There is NO REASON that you would have a "job for you" in a global perspective! Why would it be the case? You're telling me that without regulation there wouldn't be any unemployment? Yes I am telling exactly that. Without regulation, everyone would be employed. Even a 5 year old can figure out, that if you don't restrict labor, then you will have labor. In the 1800 in the USA everyone was employed. Now if the racism of course and the slavery would have not existed, then everyone could have been employed. Because regulations were simply nonexistent. Try starting up a company, and see how much paperwork you have to do. I have a friend, and he tells me that 80% of his business is actually interacting with the government (taxes, health inspection, labor inspection, accounting, license management, going to bureaucrats for various permits, etc) If none of that would exist, then pretty much anyone could start up a business, and certainly everyone would find a job in those businesses. The regulations give power to monopolies, and monopolies dont want competitors. Do you get it? Awesome. Absolutely awesome. You know another time where there was no or really low regulation? 1929. No rule about wages. No rule about employment. You could do whatever you wanted however you wanted. Ever read the grapes of wrath? Cause that wasn't exactly a no unemployment world... |
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Damn this amount of spam...
Had to delete 4 answers already which were completely off subject...
Thanks for those answering my question, or at least bringing some informations.
So no opinion on the 2 wallets I asked about.
I could let the subject open but it seems like it attracts far too much sig spammer...
Gotta lock it.
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