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14081  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Price Betting on: March 02, 2017, 04:20:35 AM
If you are familiar with secondstrade it's a the same game and type of gambling. If you are good in predicting prices then go for it but if you aren't better not. But it's not that bad to try it, I've that before but it's quite hard to predict what will be the price of bitcoin for the next minutes.

What OP is saying is that someone can control the bitcoin prices if they have a lot of it, which is easy with just a few hundred bitcoins. The bet is "influence-able", forgive me for the lack of a better term to use. Unlike a dice game where you can don't have any way of changing the outcome no matter what you do.

Yes I do know about it and he said

I really don't understand this. They are letting you bet on what the price of bitcoin will be in 5 minutes. How is this fair at all? Could a whale not bet and then buy/sell to take everyones money?

That he don't understand it and for just 5 minutes the same thing with ST. And with the manipulation it really depends on the whale if they are into this type of game.
14082  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you consider investing in a bankroll? on: March 02, 2017, 03:37:06 AM
Sounds like an interesting proposition. But what are the safeguards or collateral? Solely based on trust?

What do you mean by collateral mate? This is all about investing on a casino bankroll and there's no collateral for it. It's not all about lending your bitcoins to them and you'll get collateral from them.
14083  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: March 02, 2017, 03:22:21 AM


If you are going to take gambling seriously for sure it can make your life controlled by it.

I strongly disagree with you in this.  I take gambling seriously but I never get addicted to it.  Taking seriously simply denote that  we know the risk involve in gambling.  The possibility of being addicted and lose everything.  So,  taking gambling seriously simply means we created a so called anti-addiction defence and always keep ourselves in check, emotionaly and financially where financial and emotional management comes in.

Okay I'll add another statement, it depend on the gambler. It may not be happening for you and for some very few others. But most of the time this is what happening. It's hard to say that many are not being manipulated and control with gambling and whatever strategy and way of gambling with it, still the same result will occur.
14084  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: March 02, 2017, 02:58:47 AM
Tonight's Cavaliers vs Celtics match up is interesting. Cavs are without Love, JR. Smith and the new addition Andrew Bogut while Celtics are without Gerald Green. It is happening at TD Garden( Celtics Home) and they are bookmarkers favorites as of now but only slight. Head 2 Head, Cavs have won the previous 2 meetings this season but the games were close. I predict that Celtics take this one at 1.83x.  

They are already on the third quarter and Celtics has a lead of 3 points with the score of 74-71. And I don't know why Cavs is doing this things and keep on getting new players, aren't they good enough and they still need to get Bogut for their next games? I don't understand, still whatever they do they lost to GSW.
14085  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Price Betting on: March 02, 2017, 02:40:38 AM
If you are familiar with secondstrade it's a the same game and type of gambling. If you are good in predicting prices then go for it but if you aren't better not. But it's not that bad to try it, I've that before but it's quite hard to predict what will be the price of bitcoin for the next minutes.
14086  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: March 02, 2017, 02:22:18 AM
Wrong move if you sell your bitcoins right now. You can see that price is going up day by day , so its better to buy and buy bitcoin right now ,to get big return after 3 months.

The price now is at $1,200 and think about if you are going to sell now. We are still hoping for some big investors to invest with bitcoin for this year and for the next years to come. And we'll if you are a long time trader, you will wait for some more time before selling. But I can't help myself sometimes I need to force myself to sell some when there's a need.
14087  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: March 02, 2017, 01:59:23 AM
Gambling is no sickness, it's actually a therapy for the poor and people in financial crisis but if you gamble just in luck and with all your bankroll then it might get you sick because just like every trade you must learn the basic rudiments of gambling before you start.

Man did I read it right? A therapy? That's nuts man, I don't even consider gambling as a medicine to those poor people. It's a total error in the mind of those people that gambling is the way for their rise. And instead of solving their financial crisis and ease the pain for being included with it, they are just keep on dragging themselves into the hole.
I guess this guy does not really gamble in real life, we who are in actual situation will understand that gambling is never a therapy for the poor to help their financial crisis, in fact it will make their poorer as they will only decide in their emotion. Gambling is a game for the rich people if you want to enjoy but when you are poor, do not consider gambling as your first option to in making money, you will not gonna appreciate the outcome.

I don't know how he attain to say that gambling is such a kind of therapy. I'm thinking for so many times on how and what way we can consider gambling as a therapy. He really sees gambling as a opposite type of sickness, instead of thinking that it's a therapy there's no doubt that gambling will always be a type of sickness for real.
That's a weird way to say that it's somehow a therapy. I think it's also contradicting because gambling could cause a disorder in one's self. Disorder in which one is not able to function well enough, and that's not appropriate for the society. You won't receive the right care if you don't address it correctly.

Truly it's a weird thing and wherever angles you are going to look at it. That isn't going to make sense. Most of the time gambling will always give us an headache and that's a sickness where you will use your money for gambling and losing. And if you lose, it's another headache, where human nature's attitude that acceptance of defeat is hard.
14088  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: March 02, 2017, 01:48:14 AM
When you experienced a loss that you can't bare, I think you will know how you are going to quit. You can stop by not playing anymore. With a big loss, I think it's enough to make you stop. Don't ever think that you could regain what you lost if you gamble more. Wait for at least a day or two for rest then go for it.

It's what others are thinking but there are some that are wanting to have some revenge when they lose a lot. But for those guys that managed to think a way to quit gambling for good, they need to something in able to quit gambling for good. Learning that way is very easy if they have other interest to do to make themselves engage on it.
Of course, you want to get back what you lost from the casinos edge, then quit. It's good that you want to get back what you lost because you shouldn't let the casino owner get your money. Somehow get it back. Learn how to get it then eventually, you can. If you made a strategy good enough. If you don't want to learn, then you probably need just to let it go and quit.

That type of thinking to recover our losses and then just quit is quite hard to do. Especially if we think that we are in winning streak, it's hard to quit easily because we know and assume that we're lucky that time. And we don't have choice but to gamble and hope that we are going to win more winnings but ending up still in failure most of us but there are some who are succeeding.

I would add the word "temporarily" to that. There are some who are succeeding temporarily and yet they lose in the long run like everybody else. People who don't know this think they can be those exceptions who are earning big from gambling. But the truth is there are no exceptions.

I wouldn't say that it is not temporary. There are actual people that are winning and making fortune with gambling so they don't have enough time for quitting because that encourage them more. And for us that aren't good enough with gambling quitting is going to be an easy thing, just think about your losses and how you will never win from the house.
14089  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Go to Land Based Casinos? on: March 02, 2017, 01:36:04 AM
You mean to say real casinos?

I assume that it is what he wants to ask. And of course I do gamble at real casino's and gambling places like house gambling and other places. As long as I can see people playing mahjong, poker and other games then I always wanted to join. This is what I'm doing before there are no online casino's and bitcoin gambling places.
14090  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Buying clothes with bitcoins? on: March 02, 2017, 01:23:20 AM
I am very proud to say that my site www.topshelftoker.com accepts Bitcoin as well as SativaCoin-STV as payment .
Shop our site and support STV development today! Free shipping within the continental U.S. for orders over $10!

We also accept the following altcoins as payment:
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Woah! I checked your shop and I can say its very good and the clothes and apparels you are saying were interesting. And plus a factor that you are accepting a lot of alt coins. But I can't see if you are doing shipping world wide?

Thank you very much for the positive feedback. The reason is because I am really not sure what the shipping rates would be. Can you please let me know where it would be shipped to? Feel free to pm if you wish  Smiley


Your very welcome, upon seeing online stores that are selling with unique products and accepting bitcoin payments I've been optimistic with it and always positive because me and my partner wanted to start something like this but not literally with clothes. I live in Philippines and do you have an idea on how much it cost? But as of now, I was kind of busy for this.

If you wish to start online for clothing using bitcoin payment. First investigate the domain price which you want create. Then hire one site developer and make required changes in each and every page you want to make. Keep some offers for bitcoin users in your site. That will provide more views from btc users around you.
Domain is not an important issue. If you have the money, just choose which has a good name and .com will attract many people. HOwever, it is very risky to open a shop which accepted Bitcoin because the number of Bitcoin users is still very small

Yeah I know that, domain isn't an issue at all as long as I do have enough money for paying it fees monthly/yearly. And when it comes to staff I don't need many, two people will do including I and my partner.

I am very proud to say that my site www.topshelftoker.com accepts Bitcoin as well as SativaCoin-STV as payment .
Shop our site and support STV development today! Free shipping within the continental U.S. for orders over $10!

We also accept the following altcoins as payment:
-snip-

Woah! I checked your shop and I can say its very good and the clothes and apparels you are saying were interesting. And plus a factor that you are accepting a lot of alt coins. But I can't see if you are doing shipping world wide?

Okay the site has been updated. The rates should now appear for anywhere around the world  Cheesy

Well yeah I can see the rates now and nice you are doing it world wide shipping.
14091  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: March 02, 2017, 12:49:40 AM
I don't know how much can I lose with gambling but I'm sure with this one thing. I am not going to lose what I didn't afford to lose. Most of the time, I'm just gambling with smaller amounts and if there would be like YOLO gaming that will be applicable for sports betting that I'll bet for my favorite and winning, maybe 0.01 BTC.
14092  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: February 28, 2017, 10:04:36 AM
Heat @ Mavericks:
Both teams have been trying to dig themselves out of their struggles this season but have been unable to bring in a winning record. Looking straight to this game, the Heat are coming in slightly favored, but the Mavericks’ rhythm and home advantage will be too much for the Heat to overcome. Tonight the focus will be on the total, as both teams hold a similar defensive level, the Total of the game will go over and mavs win.


It looks like Heat conquered with Mavs with their past game. I think this would be a revenge game for the Mavs since their past game is that close. But it looks like both teams are playing good for this season and I'm not a fan anymore of Heat actually I'm a fan of Mavs since I was young but it looks like the league is getting harder for them.
Dirk is back and he plays like a star player again, with that, it makes me feel comfortable putting my money with the Dallas. I believe they are more inspired now to get back to the playoff race and since they are playing at home, I guess the value is on them. If they lose at least this will be a close game.
seth curry showing his skills now and making a huge scores i think he also deserved to be recognized as a star with dirk inside
, curry and barnes , they really have making some upset maybe curry is now bringing his career as well just need some time
and new playmates that will help him up.
Curry certainly played his position very well, it's not necessary to mention as we have already witnessed what this guy could do. It runs in the blood maybe because his brother is a superstar and he want to build his own name. This guy is still young and he could be the best player in the Mavericks once his older teammates will retire, lets keep betting on this team, they gave us money.

So this game is a revenge game for the Mavs. Not you mate that is being comfortable when Nowitzki is going to play. Even me, I've his fan since my highschool days and I'm trying to imitate his moves though I'm not that tall guy. And it looks like they have their very own Curry that assuming made their team stronger.
14093  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: February 28, 2017, 09:49:33 AM
To earn some money you need to exchange some type of service to gain profit from it, in todays age you can earn lots of money if you have many skills.
You need to understand to earn good amount of money you need to work hard for it.
Earning in bitcoin is just the same thing with earning in real life. Offering a service is a good way to earn but with this big amount valuing and depending with the current price of bitcoin it's getting higher and higher. And you need to have more source of income for this adding trading and other legit ways that you know, you could do some investments to make your work lighter or not you'll go with the hard way if you won't invest.
14094  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: February 28, 2017, 09:25:06 AM
Gambling could help you go bankrupt.  Grin If you are really lucky you could win a jackpot other than that i do not see any significant help that can be done with the help of gambling. I could spend some time and pennies in gambling site but that does not mean that i am gaining or expecting anything .

Winning a jackpot is something that we know that is almost an impossible thing for all of us. Only few people that are winning and the luckiest ones are taking over the pot. And so, that's the only help that we can get with gambling, to make us bankrupt. But not all the time, if you'll use gambling as an investment, it can help you to have another asset.
14095  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: February 28, 2017, 09:01:59 AM
When you experienced a loss that you can't bare, I think you will know how you are going to quit. You can stop by not playing anymore. With a big loss, I think it's enough to make you stop. Don't ever think that you could regain what you lost if you gamble more. Wait for at least a day or two for rest then go for it.

It's what others are thinking but there are some that are wanting to have some revenge when they lose a lot. But for those guys that managed to think a way to quit gambling for good, they need to something in able to quit gambling for good. Learning that way is very easy if they have other interest to do to make themselves engage on it.
Of course, you want to get back what you lost from the casinos edge, then quit. It's good that you want to get back what you lost because you shouldn't let the casino owner get your money. Somehow get it back. Learn how to get it then eventually, you can. If you made a strategy good enough. If you don't want to learn, then you probably need just to let it go and quit.

That type of thinking to recover our losses and then just quit is quite hard to do. Especially if we think that we are in winning streak, it's hard to quit easily because we know and assume that we're lucky that time. And we don't have choice but to gamble and hope that we are going to win more winnings but ending up still in failure most of us but there are some who are succeeding.
14096  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: February 28, 2017, 08:41:14 AM
Gambling is no sickness, it's actually a therapy for the poor and people in financial crisis but if you gamble just in luck and with all your bankroll then it might get you sick because just like every trade you must learn the basic rudiments of gambling before you start.

Man did I read it right? A therapy? That's nuts man, I don't even consider gambling as a medicine to those poor people. It's a total error in the mind of those people that gambling is the way for their rise. And instead of solving their financial crisis and ease the pain for being included with it, they are just keep on dragging themselves into the hole.
I guess this guy does not really gamble in real life, we who are in actual situation will understand that gambling is never a therapy for the poor to help their financial crisis, in fact it will make their poorer as they will only decide in their emotion. Gambling is a game for the rich people if you want to enjoy but when you are poor, do not consider gambling as your first option to in making money, you will not gonna appreciate the outcome.

I don't know how he attain to say that gambling is such a kind of therapy. I'm thinking for so many times on how and what way we can consider gambling as a therapy. He really sees gambling as a opposite type of sickness, instead of thinking that it's a therapy there's no doubt that gambling will always be a type of sickness for real.
14097  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: February 28, 2017, 03:33:18 AM
When you experienced a loss that you can't bare, I think you will know how you are going to quit. You can stop by not playing anymore. With a big loss, I think it's enough to make you stop. Don't ever think that you could regain what you lost if you gamble more. Wait for at least a day or two for rest then go for it.

It's what others are thinking but there are some that are wanting to have some revenge when they lose a lot. But for those guys that managed to think a way to quit gambling for good, they need to something in able to quit gambling for good. Learning that way is very easy if they have other interest to do to make themselves engage on it.
14098  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Losing investment on Gambling sites on: February 28, 2017, 03:07:45 AM
Well there's no free lunch and the odds are always in favor of the house as long as it's gambling so prepare your mind that it isn't going to be fair that is why you have to play your part well in order to turn your little advantage into profit. If you want a fair playing field then you're not ready to gamble.

What are you talking about? We are talking about investments here not with the gambling games. We all know that the favor will always be on the gambling sites. But if you are going to be an investor the favor will be also with you. And that's fairer if you think that you can lost against the house, just be an investor.
14099  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 28, 2017, 02:31:40 AM
Everyone loses in the end and possibly ruin your life if you're addicted to it so anyone thinking about it then don't try it.

And if you are going to think that gambling can us rich, it depends on our current situation. If you are already a gambler that has experience and good bankroll management probably you can have a decent winning in gambling but it doesn't mean that you can be rich on it. But for those poor ones, surely it's hard to become rich with gambling.
14100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: February 28, 2017, 02:18:18 AM
Gambling is no sickness, it's actually a therapy for the poor and people in financial crisis but if you gamble just in luck and with all your bankroll then it might get you sick because just like every trade you must learn the basic rudiments of gambling before you start.

Man did I read it right? A therapy? That's nuts man, I don't even consider gambling as a medicine to those poor people. It's a total error in the mind of those people that gambling is the way for their rise. And instead of solving their financial crisis and ease the pain for being included with it, they are just keep on dragging themselves into the hole.
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