Arsenal, you just know how to shoot yourselves in the foot. Don't you want another St Totteringham Day again this year? Anyway, least you prevented more than 2 GD for Citeh. Aguero's 11th hattrick though?

We've got the Reds at West Ham today. We'll do an away parlay with the Georgian top dog friendly, and both Serie A games, Lazio and Atalanta will fancy a win right after knocking out giants in the Coppa.

Game 1: West Ham vs Liverpool. Liverpool WIN @1.37. BCR odds: 1.37
Game 2: Wit Georgia vs Gagra. Tblisi WIN @1.83. BCR odds none, consider even: 1.83
Game 3: Cagliari vs Atalanta. Atalanta WIN @1.67. BCR odds. 1.66
Game 4: Frosinone vs Lazio. Lazio WIN @1.43. BCR odds: 1.42
100 units parlay at Betcoin @5.9872. BCR parlay: 5.9097

Odds advantage: 1.31
Units advantage: 7.75

I think there's always going to be disappointment if people are expecting Japan to lead the way in technological progress re crypto (but not necessarily blockchain) - they've been focused for decades on innovation and adoption, less on invention, as that serves them and their interests well. So we're actually looking at encouragement from the social and entertainment streams to use crypto as payment, Japan after all, is still much in love with cash and paper money, so the slow uptake for digital and Point of Sale I think is what the merchants are focusing on for now.

It's also why Monacoin and Line will probably do better than Bitcoin or even NEM in the medium term. Sad but guess we all got to find our own way.

Yeah, I don't think the good bots ever really promised to make people profits on themselves. What people were selling and "guaranteeing" were their strategies, using the bot to autopilot. Gunbot I recall distinctly was meant to aim for very low daily profits, based on rapid buying and selling - not something all bots were able to do at the time.

The bot software is one thing and bots do have usefulness for testing (and at time executing) rapid-closing strategies.

Well, asking both Manchester clubs to drop points in the space of two consecutive games in the week was always going to be a tough ask! Always disappointed by how Arsenal still manage to act so flimsy in the face of tougher opponents, they're such a Jekyll/Hyde team now that midway season mark's gone by. Same as Chelsea, really, and if they're both not careful United will claim the Champions League spot at their expense. With a bit of fighting luck, even Wolves can sneak in on Europa spots at this rate.

Up next Hammers.

Too short a time frame to call anything. I saw a lot of unusually high lending order walls at Poloniex for Bitcoin circa early to mid-2017. This was more or less evident in the other currencies offered too. Nothing happened much in terms of price in that range, ups and downs, especially with alts, all losing gains quickly. It was actually after loans started drying up in June and July that the bulls really set in. So this was a time frame of months, not days.

What's the lending book for BTC at Finex? It's practically been a drought for over a year at Polo.

No surprise? Well I'm surprised. I know about all the undercurrents going on in Japan since Mt Gox, but the yen itself has been under a lot of pressure domestically, and losing some standing overseas in the SEA forex baskets.

I suppose there really is some underestimated effect of legalisation. One might think that Bitcoin being legal tender meant yen would be used even less, but if people are still trading with yen/btc, then are we seeing even more people getting into trading instead of just using btc as payment?

Get into P2P and OTC, though, and I think USD still trumps anything else.

Yeah, that's what I could gather from the manually posted stats (and what's visible topline of the site) - a historical graph (or even just a simple monthly table) would probably do a lot more to attract investors. Nothing like a 2-second visual representation.

Low wager and quite a high return, though I suppose the 1/32 bust chance has a hand in it. It's quite decently low house edge for bets below 2x, given that the crypto dice "industry" standard's about 1%.

I've always thought it was hugely overrated. For me, two things:

1. Even if institutional money has been interested in Bitcoin, it wouldn't have waited for Bakkt or similar. It's have gone through via PE or just OTC, and that's probably already happened at least since 2017.
2. Even if people thought Bakkt was big, and these same people had any impact on price, then they've already made their sentiments known last year. Their buys would have been in position, hence, all priced in already.

That really is a sign of the times. I know the standard's always been the tenth off, but more than half price is some indication that they no longer work, or merely make it a step or two more convenient than just having your own automated strategies.

Bitcoin price really shouldn't have played a part, it's the volatility that's key, the way I understand daily trading with these bots (anything weekly or more doesn't to me seem to require bots!).

Might be more of a case that all strategies worked during the '17 bull. And all no longer working in current precipitation.

Arsenal odds just went above 10/1, I thought it would climb lower, wondering what kind of news filtered out to make the bookies adjust so much. Too bad I made my early bet yesterday "only" 9.3x if the Gunners win.

Weird week again, rather, although at this stage, very few results will be surprising, given the propensity of all the teams to drop points. If anything, United still not losing yet is the surprise of the year so far. If I were making a parlay of parlays, it'd be for a Leicester and Arsenal win... 33/1 the best I can see now!

Oh but the margins that make a difference in football! Moscow took the lead twice, went behind twice and then no one wanted to score for over 30 mins, so we lost the parlay. Shame as Wolves gave us a really good 3/1 away win.

Son returning from Asia Cup is such a boon, rescued Spurs twice in a row now even without playing to his peak. Why Rafa didn't play his new player I don't know.

But we have 1 bet for today: Arsenal vs City. I'll remember that city lost to Leicester immediately after losing to Palace, and Arsenal are worthy opponents... only problem is how brittle they are against a big side. But I have faith in Emery and Auba, plus the odds are incredible.

100 units on Arsenal to WIN vs Man City @9.3618, Competitor odds: 8.9870 (Refer to note below).

Note: this was yesterday's odds. Today, odds on Fairlay are 10.7293, Betcoin: 10.3. But since I took the early bet I won't double down. We will use the odd comparisons of today though, and assume the same percentage.
Odds advantage: 4.17
Units advantage: 37.48

I must be a dinosaur myself, then, @SlowDeath... and even worse, I didn't recognise any of the bots listed by OP. Ask me now and I can only remember Gunbot that's the most popular on this forum (and also if I recall rightly, on BH forum). The only other bot I can name is for martingale on dice sites haha.

I know bots are still popular, but there were a few platforms in 2017 that encouraged people to sell their strategies rather than the bots itselves on marketplaces. You basically buy or rent the strategy for your bot, and then you could create your own and put them up for sale too.

Also all those AI trading algorithms.

Wonder where they've all gone to?

I wonder in fact if a trustless system for Bitcoin investments in a casino bankroll might be possible.

Exchanges are starting to make non-custodial platforms. Maybe the same can happen for casinos eventually. You invest in a bankroll, amounts are locked and only unlockable (divestable) by you with private keys. The "easiest" so far I've seen is just by creating semi-permanent lines on marketplaces like Fairlay (you make your own dice markets, and people bet against you) but that's still a centralised marketplace.

Quite a few dice sites now doing well and I'm invested with a few. Transparency and trust, easy enough to understand the concept but fact is, all my Bitcoin investments in casino bankrolls don't really have full transparency (or at least, there's no way for me to verify the performance) and they all require me to fully trust the casino. It has worked great so far but any potential exit scam and I'm without recourse. End of the day, all my funds are risked, but I choose to risk it with the ones I feel have been around the longest, and with those whose owners I've at least had some dealings with.

I'm fully aware that that only gives ME an individual sense of confidence in them!

Yup, only for verified users. I was waiting for the longest time as well to get verified for their banking options or even for their GBP/Euro fiat options which recently launched through Binance Jersey, but was really disappointed to find out my nationality is not supported. It's almost the same for their card options now, so it still leaves me totally stuck very soon as I'm almost out of limits at my current exchanges for fiat withdrawals. As long as P2P works for me, it's fine, but it's just very uncomfortable to know anything could change soon and I only have p2p options (not that I dislike that, just always feels better to have options).

Thanks for the alert... this actually was announced in 2017 from the thread mjglqw shared (but OP is active til Dec 2018, recent enough I guess).

LeGaulois is right, Purse is only for Amazon. It's still the most decent way to get around shipping restrictions I think but don't count on the discount to mean much, you'll probably still end up paying the same amount if you're in an "exotic" location.

@OP, a "warehouse" model is more like Groupon. They place a call to order, then they hope at the cheap price, maybe 500 or 1000 people order, then they can buy at bulk price, they just repack and ship it all out to people who order. So you actually don't get a guarantee when you buy it, they just try their best to fill it.

Can't hurt having another one of you to add to the band of merry little open source games. Looks like you've been around for a while too, so welcome back to "the space"!

Might suggest you add a sort of automated graph that updates every Sunday. Tried to look at the manual updates on commissions, but can't immediately tell which months have been profitable (I think they all have been). The site itself seems to show almost 10% profits (since November?).

Indeed, long long way to the season. I'm a veteran of several false dawns already, and never tasted winning the Premier League, so I think as hungry as we all are, most of us know it's a marathon won one mile at a time (all of us except Lovren of course). City have the deeper squad, but Liverpool are hungrier and to be honest, less jaded. Like I said earlier though, whatever happens, we've already had a great season.

We just have to focus on ourselves, and let City do their best.

I made my picks last week actually, before knowing Newcastle would upturn City, so I'll leave my picks untouched even with all the upsets last week.

P.S. I will not bet like I predict. Hoping for another almost 10/1 win today or tomorrow by betting ML on Newcastle and Arsenal Check out Fairlay, odds climbing above 9/1 in past 2 days!

Hello OP! You might actually get more traction by opening a thread in the Securities section. That is, if this is a serious investment proposal (which it sounds like atm) and you're willing to provide proper details as a typical business plan would.

Problem with hosted mining, which is basically what you want to try and offer, is simply that of transparency. Will you be able to share details such as:
1. Accounting for overhead and maintenance? Bills and the like?
2. Proof of revenue? Blocks found, etc.
3. Proof of operations? Video and Pics of the rigs etc.

I've no doubt Iran is a great place for mining now, but what happens when power spikes are noticed by the govt? Surely repercussions... 90 cents for 1 kwH a month, what does that mean? 24/7? How many units are actually being consumed? What's the actual cost per kwh? What's your bill say? All these questions you gotta be able to answer

Qatar have been a boon the whole AFC Asian Cup competition, bookies rated them the underdogs in all but 1 game as I recall, yet they've been winning with quite a bit of verve despite having less possession and fewer shots than more illustrious opponents, as in yesterday's final. Solid win, also to cash in my Qatar outright (but we won't add that here as it wasn't recorded earlier!).

Tricky Premier League games so I'm just going to back another Wolves win, away at Everton. Jimenez broke Chicarito's record last game, and I'm sure he'll be crucial again today, if not bag another himself. We'll parlay it with what should be easy friendly wins for USA and CSKA Moscow.

Game 1: Everton vs Wolverhampton Wanderers. Wolves WIN @2.99. BCR odds: 3.03
Game 2: USA vs Costa Rica. USA WIN @1.58. BCR odds: 1.52
Game 3: CSKA Moscow vs Sarpsborg 08. CSKA WIN @1.64. No odds, assume same.
100 units parlay at Betcoin @7.7476. BCR parlay: 7.5531
Odds advantage: 2.58%
Units advantage: 19.45

Newcastle also won us an incredible game just this week, so can we count on them to defeat a flimsy Spurs team at Wembley? I say yes to this underdog!
100 units on Fairlay for Newcastle to WIN @9.5615. Betcoin odds: 8.29. BCR odds: 9.23
Odds advantage: 3.59
Units advantage: 33.15

No problem Sy, if I had the chance to catch up with anyone after that long a time, I'd even give up watching Liverpool. Love football but real life's always more important.

Great tournament for me all in all... You're absolutely right, the bookies totally got this all wrong, Qatar's behind-closed-doors training must have really helped keep expectations low. I never even knew who their manager was until the photos started appearing after friendlies. I haven't done my full calculations, but thanks to the outright and the good odds on the final alone I made a tidy profit.

Now all eyes will be on them, wonder which competition is up next for them... and then qualifiers to start all over again after draws in July. Qatar actually will also play in qualification as the first two WC qualification rounds are also 2023 AFC Cup qualification!

Great initiative for starting up this thread, btw!