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1441  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 02, 2019, 06:42:36 AM
It is very short sighted to think that gold or silver has a secure future.   Mining in space will require power but in the inner solar system solar power works fine.

LOL.  You people are the biggest scammers I've ever seen just typing up random lie after lie trying to scam people into buying centralized, digital slavecoins instead of metals.

1)  Digital shitcoins have built-in rent seeking middlemen, don't remove counterparty risk, aren't fungible, and transaction validators are designed to centralize, so they have no fundamentals and no reason to exist besides TEMPORARY regulatory arbitrage before govt completely takes over every aspect.

2)  No matter how much handwaving and lying you do, everyone knows the cost of production for anything in space will be orders of magnitude higher than on earth.  If someone is mining silver in space, that means the price of silver on earth is like $10,000 an ounce, so your argument is hilariously bad.  The price of metals would have to skyrocket BEFORE any of this space nonsense would even be considered.

3)  The ISS cost $150 billion, can only handle a crew of 7, and doesn't generate near enough power to mine anything.  Facilities to do all this nonsense you speak of would be trillions of dollars and science fiction levels of size.  Please draw us up your sketch of what this supposed facility looks like.  Lemme guess, it's a dyson sphere?  Imagine them trying to drag asteroids towards this thing, making some tiny mistake, and it runs into your base at 10mph, which is enough to destroy your entire bazillion dollar facility that took decades to build and everyone dies.  Or they lose control of the rock, drop it on earth, and it just wipes out a state or country.

1442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 02, 2019, 04:30:54 AM
I have always thought that stackers and coiners are natural allies, never understood the mutual animosity.

100% False.  Look at my last post above where you have evil cult of Judaism member Larry Summers whose goal is to abolish all physical cash trying to trick people into leaving metals for (((digital currency))) tracking and surveillance slave systems.
1443  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 02, 2019, 04:22:15 AM

Grayscale, a subsidiary of (((Digital Currency Group))), which is affiliated with (((Larry Summers))), whose goal is to abolish all physical cash and place everyone in a new world order digital slave system:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-16/larry-summers-launches-war-us-paper-money-its-time-kill-100-bill

You people on this forum are 100% pure trash.

1444  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 02, 2019, 03:34:16 AM
But if you're feeding me a turd that's been sprayed in gold paint, I ain't gonna go for that.

I guess you have no interest in bitcoin then.
1445  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 02, 2019, 02:18:20 AM
What you consider to be 'chops' I consider to be fluff-based pretentiousness, but to each their own.

You, Jbreher, Micgoossens and the rest of the Wall noobs are all shitcoiners, you just want to roll around in shit in a slightly different manner.
1446  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 02, 2019, 01:55:01 AM
The future of silver and gold is bleak.  Technology continues to improve mining yields on earth and over the next few decades we are likely to see a flood of precious metals from mining in space.  

And here's the 4000th retarded post pretending the cost to mine anything in space will not be astronomical.  Mining yields are also currently cratering on earth, so your post was a flat out lie in that department too.  Silver in particular is also a larger and heavier load, so even less economical to be transporting in a space shuttle. Give up the "hurrr metals are infinite cuz we can mine in space n sheeit" meme.  Those articles are probably sponsored by the federal reserve.

You don't even specify how you pretend you're going to accomplish this.  On earth you need to process literal TONS of earth just to get an ounce of gold.  Barrick currently claims to need to process 1 ton of earth just to get 1.55 grams.  Can you imagine attempting to process all those tons of earth out in space?  People's eyesight permanently erodes and their bodies already fall apart just sitting in the ISS and you're claiming there's going to be hundreds or thousands of workers up there in space stations that don't even exist processing millions of tons of earth.  We can't even build a simple wall to keep Mexicans out but there's going to be enormous, nuclear powered, trillion dollar space shuttles everywhere!

What type of fuel do you think they're going to be using to run those machines?  Shipping up diesel in a space shuttle is obviously not economical.  They would need a fucking nuclear reactor in low earth orbit.  This all turns into sci-fi retardation unless your plan is to try to redirect astroids and crash them into the earth then sift through them there, but that's another sci-fi fantasy to safely slow down these enormous objects from 10,000mph+ to zero and crash it into the earth without causing armageddon.  That's a lot of collateral damage to be had destroying an entire continent or worse should something go wrong.  Also, none of this stuff would even be considered unless the price of gold and silver was already like $20,000+ & $1000+ silver in the first place.
1447  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 02, 2019, 01:05:22 AM
Please stop quoting Roach.

Do you really think you can defeat the William Wallace, the Saladin, the Haile Selassie of shitcoins?
1448  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 02, 2019, 12:55:31 AM
Add to this the PM-supporting cockr0ach

I'm pro-silver & gold and anti all (((digital currency))), cashless society enslavement systems, so trying to put me in the same camp as "Rick Falkvinge", "Jihan Wu", "Roger Ver", and "Craig Wright" is utterly stupid when I consider all of you to be on the same team and me on a different one.
1449  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2019, 07:14:53 AM
Pretty good case for US trade deficit to be one of the main causes of hyperinflation and that the initial starting line for the event was August 2014 (assuming the US attempts to keep spending dollars other countries don't want):

https://www.silverdoctors.com/gold/gold-news/hugo-salinas-price-us-govt-thought-it-could-keep-world-from-investing-in-gold-by-suppressing-price/

1450  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2019, 06:47:52 AM
If you're trading from a seastead, what country would that fall under?
1451  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2019, 05:24:55 AM

He's a mathematician.  It's a separate field from applied mathematics.
1452  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2019, 05:10:33 AM
So Tether, the 100% backed by fiat 100% stable coin that no one can mine because it's SPECIAL is really only 74% backed by assets.

https://www.coindesk.com/tether-lawyer-confirms-stablecoin-74-percent-backed-by-cash-and-equivalents

Man what is it with people? Everyone falls for the infinite temptation of fractional-reserve banking. Everyone seems to just say the best intentions but really be full of 100% USDA horseshit.

Bitcoin is simply not going to succeed because you can't commit fraud with it. If you have a bitcoin you have a bitcoin. If you don't have a bitcoin you simply can't say you have a bitcoin.

Sad that the only thing which will work in this world is fraud.
I don't know how long it will take, but people are very slowly waking up. At least if liberals stop actively decreasing the average IQ by removing all responsibility from citizens in a charade of morals.

Fractional reserve has been working for banks for hundreds of years now, don't see why it can't for Finex. Even knowing what we know now people still hold their money there, it would take 75% of people to withdraw now for them to go belly up and it doesn't look like we're close to that happening, in fact they'd probably be "safe" running at 50% fractional reserve.

From what I noticed trading there when I was awake for like 70 hours straight trading during brexit, it appeared an entity with almost limitless funds kept naked shorting the market, then Brexit occurred and sent the price a lot higher, which they were not expecting.  Then a few days or so after that happened is when they claimed they were "hacked"; when in reality, it appeared to me they were trading with customer funds and the trade went against them so they just stole everything.  Pretty easy for fractional reserve to blow up when anyone who does it always does insane shit like this.
1453  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2019, 04:57:32 AM
Additionally one can take physical delivery of bitcoin in the form of a hardware wallet

Jesus Christ, can you people stop lying for even one minute?  Bitcoin is cloud banking - a virtual breadloaf that you claim to own a slice of.  It CANNOT be removed from this cloud system; you cannot transport it to your house, a safe, your car; it never moves, it always stays in the cloud.  It is not possible to take delivery of a bitcoin.  If it was possible, the act of me deploying a giant mass of ASICs and censoring all transactions except my own would have no effect on you, but it does.

You can't do jack shit because you never had possession of anything.  It's billed as a cooperative system with some sort of Nash equilibrium, but it's nothing more than a dystopian permissioned ledger in practice, ripe for complete govt control since transaction validators/mining warehouses centralize so much and have such easy surface attack vector for govt control and regulation.  

Just about everything concerning the whitepaper was either false from the start or became untrue over time.  For example, it claims bitcoin is a "peer to peer" system for transactions, yet it's not even possible to do a transaction without involving three or more parties in the first place.  The extra parties are the built-in rent seeking middlemen, then the nodes and whole mass of other shit.  I do not consider a system with built-in 3rd parties as "peer to peer". Whereas using physical metals or even a god damned tree branch I can do an actual peer to peer transaction.

Since truth is a foreign concept to you I don't mind you calling me a liar.    I was pointing out that bitcoin possession can be far more tangible than many other forms of wealth in our modern society.    

The rest of you post is mostly nonsense but I think that is clear to anyone intelligent.  

What a lying scumbag.

1)  If something doesn't even exist in physical reality, you're obviously not taking "physical possession" of it, so your argument is already retarded out of the gate.  

2)  Bitcoins are nothing more than imaginary timestamps inside a permissioned ledger system.  The so called "coins" themselves don't even exist and it's just a misnomer to intentionally mislead people into believing they're equivalent to real world coinage.

3)  If you actually could take "physical possession" of a bitcoin, then I wouldn't be able to place an embargo on your coin and censor all your transactions just by deploying a bunch of ASICs and blacklisting your funds.  Physical possession implies your so called coin is not encumbered in red tape and you can actually do what you want with it - trading it, giving it away, sticking it up your ass - not trapped inside a permissioned ledger prison system.  

4)  The bitcoin whitepaper PRETENDS transactions are blinded and somehow can't be censored when they're NOT.  It ASSUMES the existence of a Nash equilibrium when it doesn't exist.  It's a permissioned ledger where it's not possible for your coins to ever be unencumbered from 3rd party middlemen because those 3rd party, rent seeking, transaction validator gatekeepers are BUILT-IN.
1454  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2019, 01:30:49 AM
In other news, Florida illegally attempts to pass law to revoke the 1st amendment and make talking about Jews in any manner illegal:

https://www.watchdog.org/florida/florida-legislature-delivers-anti-semitism-law-for-desantis-to-sign/article_55995e22-6ab3-11e9-945f-6bdcae8a6e70.html
1455  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2019, 12:55:34 AM
In fact some of the things you say are true...You just don't get that IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER.

Not some, all.  And by your own statement above you're just admitting you're a scammer.  If even 10% of the stuff I say is true (and it is), it means that nobody should be touching any of these cashless society slavery (((digital currency))) and should be boycotting them to use physical metals instead.  Hell, use tree bark as money, I don't care.  Just stop promoting dystopian, govt tracking and control systems whose endgame is no different from the Chinese social credit score system.
1456  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2019, 12:44:06 AM
^ Hey R0ach.

Hey Bitserve, I noticed that you (and the other assortment of scammers in the thread) keep lying about Bitcoin claiming it's things that it's not in order to try and scam people for profit, which is why you have absolutely zero rebuttal to what I just typed and instead started babbling about something else.
1457  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2019, 12:36:05 AM
Additionally one can take physical delivery of bitcoin in the form of a hardware wallet

Jesus Christ, can you people stop lying for even one minute?  Bitcoin is cloud banking - a virtual breadloaf that you claim to own a slice of.  It CANNOT be removed from this cloud system; you cannot transport it to your house, a safe, your car; it never moves, it always stays in the cloud.  It is not possible to take delivery of a bitcoin.  If it was possible, the act of me deploying a giant mass of ASICs and censoring all transactions except my own would have no effect on you, but it does.

You can't do jack shit because you never had possession of anything.  It's billed as a cooperative system with some sort of Nash equilibrium, but it's nothing more than a dystopian permissioned ledger in practice, ripe for complete govt control since transaction validators/mining warehouses centralize so much and have such easy surface attack vector for govt control and regulation.  

Just about everything concerning the whitepaper was either false from the start or became untrue over time.  For example, it claims bitcoin is a "peer to peer" system for transactions, yet it's not even possible to do a transaction without involving three or more parties in the first place.  The extra parties are the built-in rent seeking middlemen, then the nodes and whole mass of other shit.  I do not consider a system with built-in 3rd parties as "peer to peer". Whereas using physical metals or even a god damned tree branch I can do an actual peer to peer transaction.
1458  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 01, 2019, 12:09:46 AM
@micgoossens your queen is bitcoiner so you are good for next 50 Years.

The boomers were already getting divorced at some outrageously high rate like 50%.  Then you combine the fact that female hypergamy is limited SOLELY by the roaming distance their environment allows, once you give them these cell phones 24/7 linked to things like Tinder for an infinite roaming radius, there's virtually no reason to enter into these deals anymore.

It becomes a hostage situation of "treat me like god or i'll just look at my phone real fast for a replacement".  So you're now the servant of a bimbo who at any time of day can just say "I'm bored" then legally take all your money and possessions + alimony.  LOL who is actually signing up for such a contract?  Japan is basically already there, and the rest of the world will probably be full-blown MGTOW in 5-10 years.  
1459  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 30, 2019, 11:09:00 PM
This shady ass looking motherfucker Giancarlo that runs Bitfinex always seems to surround himself with shady Chinese pump and dumpers like Lao Mao and Zhao Dong, so it's probably a combination of Giancarlo + a few of these Chinese scammers (combined with the Chinese mining cartels of Bitmain) that have rigged the bitcoin price upwards all the way from $200 to $20,000:





1460  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 30, 2019, 11:00:41 PM
It's over, guys.  Even the low IQ Youtube goyim know:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kkYZOpc688

See you in the physical gold & silver line.
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