Moved from my request for flag support: The sportsbet.io things recently have been claimed by newbies accused of either cheating, multi accounting or failing KYC. I don’t think we can expect sportsbet.io to tell everybody why they’ve failed KYC, what do we want, people’s home addresses & passports posted on here? It could be identity theft or anything and here we are doxing people totally unaware their dox has even been attained. sportsbet.io paid out some dude who won a football accumulator $250,000 the other week. All these recent noob accusations are for less than 0.35 BTC. I’m going to oppose this flag, it’s totally uncalled for. You even play with sportsbet.io yourself don’t you? That being said - while having them deactivated from my site and clearly taking position in this case, I am still using them myself (means something I guess...).
Last but not least - I really don't and won't become game-protect 2.0 lol but I made a promise when launching BTCGOSU: I want to become the most trusted bitcoin casino guide...
This is a joke and goes to show how "trustworthy" you are man, sorry - "this is totally uncalled for"?!?!?!?!  If this is uncalled, what is called?! I couldn't care less what they paid out to anyone or not - your actions alone go to show that something is not going in the right direction here in this forum when it comes to that operator. Seriously, I am wondering if you'd act the same if it was you in the guy's position. Still, everyone as he wishes. Edit: Yeah I do, so what? Man, I didn't think you'd be this unreasonable, pretty sad tbh... Bro, you created a flag but you gamble with them (presume you trust them to pay out if you win?) I like to believe not paying me out these days wouldn't be very wise, don't you think? |
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The site is still work in progress (will always be anyways) Great site and congratulations on finally launching your site . I remembered that you told us in one of the season 2 bitcointalk poker games about the site that you are going to launch and you launched it finally more reviews to be added, the content in general is being corrected (no native speaker here), improved, more information and insights being added etc. etc. but we are getting there.  I check on the games section and notice that some of the mentioned bitcoin games such as HI LO , Minesweeper and such still has no link to it unlike the others. Also I kinda notice that on the bottom right of the page when you click on the social media image, it wont link to any of the btcgosu social media (yet) . Long way to go but you are doing a great job establishing this Overall Great site and it really shows your determination ! Hey, the social media accounts are now set up (and will soon be managed actively of course)! And what can I say - check out OP everybody, links can be found at the bottom and jayce's work is impressive... more than that! |
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Hey, I am asking for flag support against Sportsbet.io - didn't see this day coming but their recent actions can't be tolerated: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2160All the info can be found in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263445.0 Quick and dirty: Player X makes relatively big deposits and can wager with no problem at all Player X wins a good amount of money Player X wants to make a withdrawal and his account is blocked Player X is supposedly abusing via multi-accounting and asked to go through KYC Player X is doing full KYC Operator states he doesn't believe Player X's story, confiscates any winnings and offers to return the deposit (for which Player X should be thankful) - all of that without providing any evidence at all Operator then staates that Player X failed KYC with no mention/evidence or anything regarding how/why he failed Player X is ready to disclose each and every personal bit of information and ready to do anything he needs for verification Operator states case is closed, no more statement It's a shame really - you can't just withhold anyone's money without providing evidence as to how the player broke ToS - you can't do that even more so when you are Sportsbet.io, probably the most trusted sportsbook in this very forum. |
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Regarding being frank in reviews: I feel this is the right thing to do.
Love the way you handle this stuff, the forum has enough of biased review site already. It is the right thing to do especially when you positioned yourself as part of BTCGOSU, you need to take neutral stand on all matters despite that you have been wagering alot in the respective site. . Removing sportsbet.io and bitcasino.io doesnt mean those sites are scammers by all means but it just means it is not that trustworthy 'for now' compared with other site due to some issue. Also it doesnt hurt the site in any way possible, everyone are still welcome to play on those site on their own risk I still bet on that site and the risk is on me if any sketchy things happen in the future Hey arallmuus, thank you very much for the feedback and it's exactly as you say: I don't generally think they are bad and I appreciate what they are doing for the community - still, I expect people to reflect and not just approve each and every action because they have been so good for us by providing lots of great promotions etc. To be honest - I am quite shocked to see so many (even very established members) supporting such action but in the end I guess, they aren't real players themselves and haven't experienced often enough how lame "real players" are sometimes being treated by gambling operators. That being said - while having them deactivated from my site and clearly taking position in this case, I am still using them myself (means something I guess...). Last but not least - I really don't and won't become game-protect 2.0 lol but I made a promise when launching BTCGOSU: I want to become the most trusted bitcoin casino guide... |
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Royse777 is acting absolutely right by leaving negative feedback under these circumstances - even if AskGamblers had taken on the case - the responses and actions so far have not been good enough and it's 100% true that if we were talking about another bookie, their trust page would be bloody red by now. Also - even if such a "case" is being handled outside of this forum, be it AskGamblers, SBR - that would not mean that we do not take any action here, would it? Otherwise we would have to remove negative feedback and flags from every operator with open disputes, right? Long story short: I guess it is time for a flag shortly so this case will finally be handled the way it should, hopefully. (No, I have better things to do than randomly flagging and leaving negative feedbacks, I am not enjoying this and especially not when talking about my favorite crypto bookie) but everyone here should imagine he was in neymarjr's position... Edit: Flag created and asking for support - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2160 |
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Just got to know about BTCGOSU yesterday and have been browsing through the site and reading reviews. All I can say is that the site looks attractive for first time users and the reviews are quite thought out and well explained. Our forum users always stand among the top in verifying new sites and checking out the trustworthiness of old sites from time to time. It's good to know @efialtis came up with a pretty good idea for launching a casino review website which is pretty much trustworthy and honest. Since you are quite an active user here, scams being pointed out here would reflect all of a sudden in the review site and by the way would be a lot more faster than other sites expose them off. I have spread out the word about BTCGOSU to a newbie who have been searching for gambling review sites in the forum. Long way to go and I hope you would be bringing a lot more innovations in the upcoming days. Good Luck with the project efialtis and as always great design jayce!  Thank you very much for your feedback. Indeed - unlike other sites of that kind, my mission with BTCGOSU is to actually provide honest and in-depth reviews while taking action whenever needed. I consider myself an active user of this forum and a real player. Pumping out generic content just like most (all?!) the other sites are doing while promoting proven scammers would be the easier way - that's for sure but this is not what I am trying to achieve with BTCGOSU. Just have a look at other threads here and you will see they are far from being contributors to this forum...  I liked the wordpress design but it has various vulnerabilities. I just wonder you are too frank in reviews: https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/sportsbet-io-bitcasino-io-temporarily-deactivated-on-btcgosu/  Thanks for the advice - I feel I am "good" for now when it comes to security but I will get in touch when necessary. Regarding being frank in reviews: I feel this is the right thing to do. |
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If this guy failed KYC, it sounds like a closed case?
It’s pretty normal for reputable sportsbooks to ask for KYC in situations like this and would all yield the same results WITHOUT explaining how they use their different tools and techniques in fraud.
Correct me if I’m wrong?
Gotta disagree here - anyone can say "your KYC failed" - how would it fail in the first place when the guy has sent each and every requested document? It failed, say for what reason it failed - "KYC failed because of X, Y, Z". To be exact, we have not heard anything new and the situation is still as messed up as before. The guy failed KYC, I don’t think it’s good if Sportsbet disclose all ‘his’ personal information here? It could be anybodies personal info he maybe stole etc. No offence intended at all but I dunno if it’s good to be giving Merit to blatant scammers https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.msg54853858#msg54853858Look at his post history and ask yourself if you think Sportsbet stole 10 mBTC from this guy. Regarding the KYC - this is ridiculous (from sportsbet) - plain and simple. You can not just tell someone you failed WITHOUT telling him why - do that in real world with regulation and see how far you will go... Regarding that post - None taken, no worries. I also don't mean to offend anyone, I hope you guys know that but just saying it once more to be clear. Back to topic: I did not give him positive trust or anything but a merit and I am giving merit to any post I feel speaks truth and yes - that post is one of these so I disagree once again, sorry. You know what's pretty sad? That some things - my friend found some nice words on the matter - are becoming "industry standard" in online gambling... Like accusing people of multi-accounting without providing any evidence while gladly accepting their cash as long as they lose. |
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If this guy failed KYC, it sounds like a closed case?
It’s pretty normal for reputable sportsbooks to ask for KYC in situations like this and would all yield the same results WITHOUT explaining how they use their different tools and techniques in fraud.
Correct me if I’m wrong?
Gotta disagree here - anyone can say "your KYC failed" - how would it fail in the first place when the guy has sent each and every requested document? It failed, say for what reason it failed - "KYC failed because of X, Y, Z". To be exact, we have not heard anything new and the situation is still as messed up as before. |
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Thanks everybody for your help in our first week - payments have been sent: 4b29a607aa044259e1fb766ed94cf8d264926e87aba238608d2b019856a03271
Keep it up!
There is 1x Hero/Legendary spot available so feel free to apply if you haven't done so yet.
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Happy Birthday mate - all the best!!! You have a great day my friend! 03 - efialtis |
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@jeremypwr, I responded your PM. You are free to respond here or continue in the PM.
@sportsbet.io, Steve sportsbet will not pay 0.373 BTC is something unbelievable to think considering the image they have created in this community and the gambling industry. But this is also true that since people still trust this community, and they come here to find justice, we the users who care for the forum and the community will do our best to help them instead of blindly trusting a service or person. I hope this make sense for you. Just to let you know, for me personally sportsbet and bitcasino are two sites I will keep at the top of my recommendation list. There are no doubt about it.
Let's be fair here, what if instead of OP, it was me? Do you think you would easily convince users that I am lying? Don't you think in that case we would see some nasty fight to prove each others right? Either you would lose the battle or I would.
Question here:
If IP is your only tool to find connected account then this is very weak investigation.
If this is not only IP then pick some trusted users from this thread who already commented in here, who are not biased, doing things from a neutral position. Pick me, actmyname, Trofo, SyGambler. Share your private investigation with us and let us convinced that your investigation is right.
Edit: actmyname, Trofo, SyGambler I hope you guys will have no problem to invest some of your free time for the community if Steve actually share the methods with us.
Edit again:
I would add buwaytress too. Sorry I missed you buddy.
Also, sorry jeremypwr and LFC_Bitcoin not to considering you since I already see some biased opinion from you two. I hope you all understand what we want from this thread. It's not against sportsbet or any casino or service it's about showing us some evidence instead of asking us to believe where other party seems to make sense too.
Hi @Royse777, Still no reply from @Sportsbet.io... By being silent they just confirm that they are thieves... Did you get any info from them by any chance? As Royse777 already stated there is not much we can do except for leaving negative ratings and flagging them and rest assured - I will be doing this if we don't hear back shortly. You can't just say "this is it, no more talks, we keep your money, goodbye" without providing proof if necessary - you can't do that when you are Sportsbet - a company that lots of established users here (including myself) trust blindly - we would expect that from a shit-book but not from them. This whole situation gets frustrating since I still don't see why Sportsbet should "scam" someone for a ridiculous 0.4 BTC (ridiculous a business such as Sportsbet)... @neymarjr12 If I understood correctly, you wouldn't mind them disclosing each and every bit (personal) information they have provided it helps the case? |
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Bitcointalk Name: panjul07
Current Post Count: 10799
Amount of Merit EARNED in the last 120 Days: 47
BTC Address: 1GDewfARLBSkwKnfg3KTHtYHR325whpdGr
Accepted - welcome to the GOSU campaign! Happy posting! |
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Just got to know about BTCGOSU yesterday and have been browsing through the site and reading reviews. All I can say is that the site looks attractive for first time users and the reviews are quite thought out and well explained. Our forum users always stand among the top in verifying new sites and checking out the trustworthiness of old sites from time to time. It's good to know @efialtis came up with a pretty good idea for launching a casino review website which is pretty much trustworthy and honest. Since you are quite an active user here, scams being pointed out here would reflect all of a sudden in the review site and by the way would be a lot more faster than other sites expose them off. I have spread out the word about BTCGOSU to a newbie who have been searching for gambling review sites in the forum. Long way to go and I hope you would be bringing a lot more innovations in the upcoming days. Good Luck with the project efialtis and as always great design jayce! Thank you very much for your feedback. Indeed - unlike other sites of that kind, my mission with BTCGOSU is to actually provide honest and in-depth reviews while taking action whenever needed. I consider myself an active user of this forum and a real player. Pumping out generic content just like most (all?!) the other sites are doing while promoting proven scammers would be the easier way - that's for sure but this is not what I am trying to achieve with BTCGOSU. Just have a look at other threads here and you will see they are far from being contributors to this forum... |
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All eligible users helping to spread the word have been paid. Thank you! This campaign is still active. |
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Ja da Frage ich mich auch schon lange, ob die Signatur echt so viel Leute anzieht.
Aber es gibt ja eineige bounty die laufen schon echt lange, da muss sich das schon Lohnen.
So denken ist halt tatsächlich total falsch. Glaubst du jemand holt sich ein BMW weil er ne Werbung gesehen hat? Nein. Wenn jemand ein neues Auto braucht/will, und derjenige seit Jahren geile BMW Werbungen sieht, wird er ganz natürlich als erstes zum BMW Händler latschen. Nen direkten Effekt wird sich nur merken lassen falls es sich um was ganz neues handelt, das die Leute überhaupt nicht kennen. Ein neuer Markt sozusagen. Beim guten efialtis könnte es der Fall sein, da seine Seite ja was ganz neues ist. Bei Kampagnen wie CM/FJ/usw ist das ganz und gar nicht der Fall. Hier geht es mehr ums Unterbewusstsein und um's Image. Zb bei CM, der Fakt das die Kampagne gut zahlt und schon seit scheinbar ewig existiert, hat als Wirkung das Leute CM halt trauen. Schöner Post - genau so ist es. Tatsächliche "Leads" und/oder Conversions kriegst durch Signaturwerbung hier verhältnismäßig sehr wenig aber das ist logischerweise auch nicht der einzige pot. Mehrwert einer Kampagne. Ty Kiwanuka und ich haben damals ja schon bei Luckydice festgestellt, dass wirklich nahezu gar keine neuen Spieler dadurch generiert wurden. So groß die Gambling-Sektion hier auch sein mag - "Echte" Spieler gibt es kaum! Und trotzdem gerade für Gambling-Operators "wichtig" Präsenz zu zeigen, denn letztlich ist das Glücksspiel noch immer eines der größten Adaptionsfelder von Bitcoin. Gerne berichte ich in ein paar Wochen von meinen Erfahrungen und kann dann auch versuchen ein paar konkretere Zahlen zu nennen. |
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Hey Dark, as discussed on TG - thanks mate! Request For a No Collateral Loan from DarkStarRequired BTC Amount: 0.3 BTC Estimated Loan Duration: Mid October BTC Address: bc1q8w2wa6felylgx3tfnqplulyaxfpxtz07u47f6a Signed Message: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is efialtis from bitcointalk and today is the 23rd of July, 2020.
I am asking for an added 0.3 BTC loan.
Duration: Max till Mid October
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mach auch mal mit b worgon12 thx @seek3r Ich mache mit, vielen Dank! 5 for me por favor |
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This is sad news, and I'm still not convinced by this matter that the two sites have been running for a long time and are trustworthy, I'm still exploring this problem, hopefully no bad reputation will come, is BTCGOSU's decision not too fast? It's not too fast when one party states they will no more look into the case, case closed. Again, big fans of sportsbet.io here but that case is handled extremely unprofessional - my mission from the moment I decided to launch a site: Only promote trusted operators and take action as soon as something "unfair" happens. Still hoping for this mess to be cleaned up so I can re-activate them. |
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