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1441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: July 24, 2015, 11:48:59 PM
@eduffield

Ive been having issues running dashd over tor, i thing it is maybe due to a lack of tor compatible seednodes
my config is:
Code:
proxy=127.0.0.1:9050

yet i cant connect to other nodes
1442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Anon POSV2 | ShadowSend | ShadowChat | ShadowGo | ShadowMarket* on: July 24, 2015, 09:48:21 PM
hello, can anyone give me a list of tor onion nodes to add to the conf?

thanks

addnode=xx.xx.x.x.x
Im asking in slack for you, you should join in there, A lot of the developers are very active in there.
http://shadowproject.herokuapp.com/
any luck?
1443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: July 24, 2015, 09:47:11 PM
hello, can anyone give me a list of tor onion nodes to add to the conf?

thanks

addnode=xx.xx.x.x.x
bump
1444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ExchangeD.I2P Darknet CryptoCurrency Exchange on: July 23, 2015, 05:59:09 PM
the server is having hardware issues, migrating to a new environment it could be up to 30 hours before this issue is resolved
hopefully i will have a new back up running in the next 3-4 hours
all funds are secure
1445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SDC] Shadow | Anon POSV2 | ShadowSend | ShadowChat | ShadowGo | ShadowMarket* on: July 23, 2015, 04:38:29 PM
hello, can anyone give me a list of tor onion nodes to add to the conf?

thanks

addnode=xx.xx.x.x.x
1446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) on: July 23, 2015, 04:35:24 PM
Hello to my old community!

Strange to hear that Meeh and BroTroxer are back..     why Huh
Better I do not open the Pandora's box  Cool

Just be careful , especially if you see xmr members active and pumping thread.

Regards


 






welcome back. its not to late to rejoin the anonparty. Smiley
1447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: July 23, 2015, 04:24:21 PM
hello, can anyone give me a list of tor onion nodes to add to the conf?

thanks

addnode=xx.xx.x.x.x
1448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coin.mx shutdown by federal government, top executives arrested on: July 22, 2015, 11:24:31 PM
fucking regulators. the whole point of bitcoin is that you dont need an id to use it. it is supposed to be decentralized and free. we need more darknet financial servies.
1449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) on: July 22, 2015, 10:49:28 PM
Anoncoin works fine on ExchangeD.i2p

no issues with codebase or withdrawal delays


No offense but your exchange have no volume. Maybe only dogecoin have some!
You can sell shit with good marketing but you can't sell great product without marketing... just my two anoncoins Wink

We have been active for 3weeks and have 30 trading accounts registered with about 2btc worth of deposits and about 1btc total trade volume. This is in line with my projections for growth. It takes time to get established and gain trust. Nobody is expecting overnight success. Realistically, Im looking at break even in 3-6 months and serious volume into next year.

https://www.coindesk.com/coin-mx-arrested-operating-illegal-bitcoin-exchange/

Cryptocurrency users have a choice. Use regulated clearnet services with invasions of privacy and liberty that come with that or darknet financial services such as ExchangeD.i2p. Im the first ever to build a darknet exchange so I  have first mover advantage. At this point its really a function of time + not fucking up. Volume is increasing steadily and more people are registering every day
1450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history) on: July 21, 2015, 02:32:41 AM
what i saw on the exchanges is that the majority of volume which keeps ANC in the Top100 list comes
from China ANC/CNY.
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/coins/show/anc

So i dont understand why BTER did not openend a ANC Market since their are from China too.
That would be great since BTER is the second largest multicoin exchange after Cryptsy.


Add ANC to BTER vote list Smiley

I doubt any exchange would be interested right now based on length since last release, lack of volume and history of some exchanges freezing or delisting the coin for codebase problems
Anoncoin works fine on ExchangeD.i2p

no issues with codebase or withdrawal delays
1451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Peter Todd calls dash snake oil. on: July 20, 2015, 06:24:39 PM
Do you think he's lurking here?  Roll Eyes

Try this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/

I don't do reddit or twitter or facebook.  You have my permission to copy my question and post it.  I assume that you would be interested in his response.


EDIT
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You started this thread, don't you want to read his justification?

Here you go:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2546
i sent him a pm hopefully he will clarify and this insane thread will die
1452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Peter Todd calls dash snake oil. on: July 20, 2015, 06:07:42 PM

As I explained to you earlier, you can do exactly the same type of audit. Every single transaction except coinbases have inputs exactly equal to outputs (if fees are included in outputs), and that is entirely visible. Coinbases can be verified to match the published reward schedule in every instance starting from block 0 all he way to block infinity (unlike Dash, BTW), again all visible. Thus you can be assured that coins are not and never have been created out of thin air.

You further need to verify that transactions have valid signatures (for which all the necessary inputs are, again, visible), which is finally exactly the same thing you need to do (but with slightly different mathematical equations) with every other cryptocurrency.


This is just technological B.S. that nobody monetary user is interested in or needs to know. It is not a financial audit.

I already described what an "audit is" and it is not something that cryptonote supports because the relevant information is obscured. The originating address is obscured, the destination addresses are obscured, even the balance itself is obscured - that is the whole *point* of the cryptonote technology which is why I say it's relevant for bookkeeping or record keeping of a trusted party-backed currency but not for defining a new form of base money.


Sounds like wally the economist

http://dilbert.com/series/66
1453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ANC] Launching AnonCoin - Prebuilt Windows binaries. Not PRE-mined. on: July 19, 2015, 11:09:36 PM
can any of the other coins be used with TOR and those other ones like ip2 etc?  is this the first coin that is specifically designed for use with this kind of thing?

1. ANC was the first to integrate I2P with a SAM bridge
2. I am not aware of other coins with native I2P integration yet
3. Any coin can be configured to use I2P or TOR manually

ANC development has been extremely slow and the original developers have left.

I now believe that Monero is the best privacy option in crypto that exists today.

Peter Todd, Greg Maxwell and other bitcoin core devs seem to be of the same opinion
https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/622022840330682368
Just to correct one point: The original developers have not left. It is quite likely that Gnosis will not be working on Anoncoin in the future, but K1773R is still with us, and if you would join us on irc, you would see that Meeh is back and contributing.

As I've said before, Monero is probably the best option if you need increased privacy, but what Monero is offering is only a temporary solution. Ring signatures are not the future of crypto.

I apologize to K1773R since he is clearly still active.

My comment was indeed directed towards Gnosis and Meeh.

Gnosis was the reason why I first became interested in the coin since he was the lead zerocoin developer.

Meeh founded the coin is the I2P expert and has control over the OP.

Although I have not been in IRC lately I have a hard time believing Meeh is actively contributing. There are corrections that he needs to make to the OP (updating links, etc) yet he has not even logged into bitcointalk in many months.

From his profile:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=106663
Last Active:    October 07, 2014, 02:54:44 PM



well arent you at least going to read the above posts? meeh and broroxer are back and active on irc. please consider actually joining the channel and interacting with the devs before jumping to conlusions. despite its popularity or perhaps because of it, bitcointalk.org is a cesspool and some people try to avoid it when necessary
1454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ExchangeD.I2P Darknet CryptoCurrency Exchange on: July 19, 2015, 10:54:37 PM
hello, is possible to add SDC (shadowcash) on the exchange? This one too have a real anon purpose

we get a lot of coin requests, it would make a big difference if you joined our irc2p channel #exchange and requested it there.
1455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Peter Todd calls dash snake oil. on: July 19, 2015, 10:27:31 PM

I can't follow where the coins came from without cryptography.  this is futile.

Then stop wasting our time and learn cryptography.

+1

you fail to understand that cryptography is the building blocks of all -> CRYPTOcoins <- including dash. Its in the name Wink
1456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Peter Todd calls dash snake oil. on: July 19, 2015, 10:24:10 PM
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In cryptonote, I still can't verify it with logic, therefore I will not trust it.


Holy shit. A philosophical difference? When did we stop talking about cryptography and mathematics and start talking about your "feelings". I am simply blown away at how silly you people are. On one hand you are saying that you cant trust a coin with an opaque blockcoin on the other hand darksend makes coins opaque. Please explain this to us me. I just dont get it.

You don't trust cryptonote because... you cant verify it with logic!!?!?!? Its an open source computer program based on a public blocchain where EVERY full node verifies the data independently , its 100% mathematical logic. I'm sorry to say but this is the stupidest statement I have heard in a long time.



I can't follow where the coins came from without cryptography.  Everything is hidden.  The ledger does not exist, only a chain of cryptography.  As Toknormal always says, it's throwing the baby out with the bath water.  Now I feel like we're just repeating ourselves.  This means you are not really reading what I wrote, and that means this is futile.

So a chain of cryptographic signatures rolled into blocks is bad... as the basic structure of all blockchains even including dash. or is it specifically cryptography that you don't understand?

specifically what kind of cryptography is not logical?
1457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Peter Todd calls dash snake oil. on: July 19, 2015, 09:38:30 PM
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In cryptonote, I still can't verify it with logic, therefore I will not trust it.


Holy shit. A philosophical difference? When did we stop talking about cryptography and mathematics and start talking about your "feelings". I am simply blown away at how silly you people are. On one hand you are saying that you cant trust a coin with an opaque blockcoin on the other hand darksend makes coins opaque. Please explain this to us me. I just dont get it.

You don't trust cryptonote because... you cant verify it with logic!!?!?!? Its an open source computer program based on a public blocchain where EVERY full node verifies the data independently , its 100% mathematical logic. I'm sorry to say but this is the stupidest statement I have heard in a long time.

1458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Peter Todd calls dash snake oil. on: July 19, 2015, 08:53:23 PM
Please show me you can do the same on your blockchain, which I can't see how to do, and then I'll be satisfied that monero is trustless.  Otherwise, I'll never be a fan Smiley

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1126927.msg11919237#msg11919237


http://moneroblocks.eu/
1459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Peter Todd calls dash snake oil. on: July 19, 2015, 08:50:01 PM



As for what Tok is trying to say here (I believe, I could be getting him wrong, hate to put words in people's mouths) is that cryptonote was designed initially to be used with a central authority that holds the "keys".  Throwing those keys away only makes it impossible for anyone, not even a central authority to verify what happened, inside or outside of the blockchain.  The cryptography must be trusted, which kills the whole concept of trustless.  Thus his constant harping on illegitimatizing the blockchain.
except that cryptonote uses a decentralized ledger where all users control the keys and sign messages that get rolled into blocks and chained togeather. ie a blockchain
1460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Peter Todd calls dash snake oil. on: July 19, 2015, 08:37:13 PM

Dash is not in competition with Monero, which is not a cryptocurrency, was not designed as a cryptocurrency and is unlikely to ever perform a cryptocurrency role other than as a minority speculative asset (as it is does right now).

Monero (or the original design specification that characterises cryptonote's behaviour) is a cryptographic record keeping system designed to track money in a bank. What some fly developer decided to do (wittingly or unwittingly) is lift the template for the record keeping system, ditch the bank and try to get away with calling the residual cryptographic transport mechanism "money".

The Nature of Money is Not Obscurity
Contrary to what a lot of cryptographic programmers come-self-appointed-monetary-analysts assert, privacy (in the sense of hiding transactions) is not an integral part of any "money like good". It is the domain of record keeping for such.

Metals, Coal and even Paper cash do not have privacy "buit into them". They have fungibility which supports anonymity amongst its holders. The records that track the transactions for such "money like goods" are private and may (as in the case of bank accounts) in fact be referred to as 'money' but they are not the money, they are just the records.

Obscurity - A Bookkeeping Concept
In the case of cryptocurrency, there is no intermediate counterparty holding records on your behalf. (If there was, a system like cryptonote might still be of some use). Cryptocurrency therefore re-orders the priorities of monetary transparency and record keeping privacy such that latter becomes the domain of the holder and not the monetary media itself. This is what allows bitcoin to be defined as base money as opposed to a mere record keeping system.

Anonymity - A "Visible Cash" Concept
What IS important in cryptocurrency, however, is fungibility - as everyone keeps raging about. Improving fungibility enhances the performance of any money-like-good as a cash medium. Coal is pretty fungible. You could watch a shipment of coal arrive at the port without reasonably distinguishing it from any other shipment. But you wouldn't improve the fungibility by hiding the shipment altogether - you'd simply be sowing doubt about the its existence and destroying coal's suitability as a monetary medium.

Dash does not try to do this. It is possibly the only cryptocurrency project right now that has all the design priorities of blockchain-based money in the right balance.

Who Has the Right Design Goals ?
Dash hasn't thrown the baby out with the bathwater like sidechains does (by ruining bitcoin's fungibility and mobility - two fundamental properties of good money) or by reverting the blockchain back to a mere bookkeeping system as cryptonote does. Instead of such car crash, ill thought through sledghammer approaches, it adds a little bit of salt, in a minimally invasive way to the existing bitcoin architecture while extracting huge gains from the result. In other words, it doesn't hide the coal shipments, it just makes the piles of coal less 'lumpy' and perfectly fungible.

Peter Todd may have had a weak technical case if Dash and Monero had been trying to solve the same problem. They are not. Cryptonote is solving the wrong problem - one that's associated with its original role as a record keeping system. You can't just take a cryptographic banking system, throw away the bank and call it money. (You can fool some of the people...).

Dash, on the other hand, is addressing a genuine monetary property - i.e. solving the "right problem" without adversely impacting any other characteristic of bitcoin's almost-perfect design.



Sometimes I'm blown away by comments like these, I wonder how people say thing so stupid.


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Dash is not in competition with Monero, which is not a cryptocurrency, was not designed as a cryptocurrency and is unlikely to ever perform a cryptocurrency role other than as a minority speculative asset (as it is does right now).

1) monero is a cryptocurrency and it has the following characteristics.
    a) decentralized nodes that anyone can run, each independent nodes can independently verify the entire blockchain
    b) decentralized payment protocol based on committing signed to be rolled into blocks
    c) decentralized currency generation and block minting blocks through a distributed proof-of-something that anyone can do
2) also Dash kind of really is in competition with monero. If you look at total -> coins in circulation * price <- the market cap difference is actually pretty close. Dash marketcap is artificially fluffed by counting dash that is parked. However its worth noting that Dash has much more volume
    a) Dash marketcap = 3.66usd/dash * (~5,6,000,000 total supply - ( ~2700 masternodes * 1000) = $10,614,000 usd
    b) Monero marketcap = 0.52usd/xmr * 8,600,000 = $4,472,000 usd
    c) Bytecoin marketcap = 0.000049usd/byt * 174,500,000,000 total supply = $8,550,500 usd
    
ie the difference between marketcap bytecoin vs dash is less than 20% adjusted for parking

there are of course many other metrics to consider however i demonstrate that runner ups are within a reasonable distance to be taken seriously


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Monero (or the original design specification that characterises cryptonote's behaviour) is a cryptographic record keeping system designed to track money in a bank.

Not only are you totally wrong. you are linking to an article that has to do with chaumian based digital cash. ie the precursor to cryptocurrency. You see bitcoin and its alcoins as well have cryptonote based coins have something called a blockchain. The blockchain is a decentralized ledger which takes the place of the third party used in traditional banking system.

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What some fly developer decided to do (wittingly or unwittingly) is lift the template for the record keeping system, ditch the bank and try to get away with calling the residual cryptographic transport mechanism "money".

this flyby developer only known by his pseudonym "satoshi nakamoto" happens to have developed the underlying technology the so called "residual cryptographic transport mechanism"  in his 2008 white paper Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

you may not like it but it kind of plays an important part in all cryptocurrencies including dash. Wink

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