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1441  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: August 19, 2012, 02:43:42 PM
Hello.

I'm new to the forums but have been contemplating digital currency and micropayments since 2009. After almost a year of independent thinking somewhere around 2009. in which I've thought on my own on how to best design a open source system for managing and accounting digital currency I did a thesis about "virtual money" in which I designed a database schema for generic virtual currency accounting. I was even considering to put it online, not knowing about Bitcoin yet!

During that time, I've come to the central realization that "virtuality" of any currency should best be considered as some "inverse measure" of the proportion of it's acceptance. In other words, the "virtuality" could perhaps best be thought of as an indicator of the level of global unacceptability of a currency. If you understand that, you come to understand that virtuality in that sense is somewhat superfluous, old fashioned and soon probably to be obsolete.

Some two months after defending that thesis I've come to realize that probably the ultimate way to bootstrap a digital decentralized currency is through what is now known as world wide shared transactional database we now call Bitcoin. This realization came to me months before I actually discovered actual Bitcoin already existing and embodying that very same idea, which was relatively late in the spring of 2011. It's very hard to tell if I actually independently came up with that idea before discovering Bitcoin since my subconscious could have very easily picked the gist of idea from the web. I think I may probably be one of the last people to research the Wikipedia article about virtual currencies in Wikipedia without it mentioning Bitcoin. Since I was focusing on technical aspects and learning about database theory I obviously missed stumbling upon Bitcoin community already existing then in 2010. Pity.

The general idea of cryptocurrency is as old as cyberpunk itself, if not older. I strongly believe that if Satoshi didn't invent it, someone else would, sooner or later. But what "Satoshi" did was solving the hard problems of realizing that simple idea and that suggests he was years ahead of everyone else. Whatever his true motives, whoever or whatever he is, he has great respect from me.

Welcome I think you will be able to contribute to the community greatly!
1442  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll for Gun Control Advocates on: August 18, 2012, 07:33:53 PM
gun control works only for honest people ...

Bad guys still get theys weapons ...

as a bad guy I would vote for gun control ...

I'm honest ... and vote against any gun control .

Replace gun control with, "marijuana prohibition",  "internet filter", "DRM" the bad guys will still be doing bad things, and the honest people will be limited

At a certain point the line between good and bad will be so blurred the government will have us all locked in work camps (Maybe biden wasn't being racist, maybe they are going to put y'all back in chains, all y'all) .... Being unarmed is only going to help.

So very true, and this is the way the U.S.A is moving sadly.
1443  Other / Meta / Re: Mandatory forum donation on: August 18, 2012, 06:03:54 PM
BBB, Bitcoin Business Bureau

Kinda like the Better Business Bureau?
1444  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE]BitCoin Mining Investments-[BITCOINMINV] Put Your BS&T coins here! on: August 18, 2012, 05:38:39 PM
Looky Looky what we just got in the mail 3 of them!

Waiting for a processor and Monday is off to pick up the other 3 rigs!
1445  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] V.HRL Vendor's High Risk Loan up to 3% interest weekly on: August 18, 2012, 04:00:46 PM
I managed to contact GLBSE support and the IPO is up now although a bit late. Wednesday the 22nd I will start to issue the bond.

Glad to see you got it all straight, and good luck!
1446  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: August 18, 2012, 03:56:51 PM
Welcome new members!
1447  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: MMM Investment Mining GLBSE.com Stock on: August 18, 2012, 03:16:20 PM
Sorry my mistake i thought this was another post I am truly sorry, Early in the A.M
1448  Economy / Securities / Re: Why Miner corps, bonds and other assets are THE WORST INVESTMENT YOU CAN MAKE. on: August 18, 2012, 02:48:00 PM
giving 20 sand dollars for a 5830 Cheesy Live or dead sand dollars you pick!
1449  Economy / Lending / Re: Will you reinvest in BS&T if pirate returns your deposit next week? on: August 18, 2012, 02:40:30 PM
He was just money laundering for the drug cartels and now the gigs up.
1450  Economy / Securities / Re: Why Miner corps, bonds and other assets are THE WORST INVESTMENT YOU CAN MAKE. on: August 18, 2012, 01:32:23 PM
The key to any business is upkeep, letting your equipment or strategy stay the same the whole time will cause you to loose a market share in any sector. This is the same for bitcoin mining believe it or not. For a mining company to be viable investment, they must A) be shares not bonds. Thats just because of what the OP talks about. B) The company must use some of the profits to Grow, Replace, and develop new practices. The reason for this is simple yet I see it overlooked here every day. There is more equipment being put online everyday, thus the difficulty goes up. Now you 10Ghash is not getting the same return as before. But if new equipment is added it will either maintain the same output or grow profits every time. Most of these mining company's say they will just issue new shares or bonds. Problem with that is your profit never changes it just adds more people to the dividends list and its usually called stock dilution.
1451  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: August 18, 2012, 04:32:41 AM
Welcome peoples
1452  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll for Gun Control Advocates on: August 17, 2012, 11:29:07 PM
Do you always avoid answering questions by asking a question of your own?

And, from just looking at the pictures, obviously the second one. But what you're proposing if I understand you correctly, is that everywhere should be like the second pic. Arm everybody.

I answered your question by not answering it. I ceded the point. Yes, a violent environment makes people violent. But note that while we only see one person open carrying in the first picture, there is no reason why everyone there would not be armed, even Bongo-boy there. The situation, however, is not violent, regardless of how many people are armed, because the people are peaceful. The second picture, on the other hand, is violent, because the people with the guns are violent. A little backstory: That gentleman there with the knife was minding his own business, smoking something that "looked like a marijuana cigarette", and is simply (unsuccessfully, and unwisely) attempting to defend himself from their aggression.

"Everybody" isn't armed in that picture, only the thugs in the blue costumes are.

I get that everybody isn't armed. But that was your suggestion a few posts up, wasn't it? Arm everybody. Did I get that wrong?


Not sure how US police handles things, but if there's a law (agree or not) that you break (or not) and police comes to question you about it, and you pull a knife, you're really not defending yourself are you?

I did say it was unwise, what the man did, did I not? Wink

And yes, my suggestion was to arm everyone, like in the first picture. Peaceful armed people do not suddenly become violent.


I agree I think like everything education is key.
1453  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: August 17, 2012, 11:23:17 PM
Welcome folks!
1454  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll for Gun Control Advocates on: August 17, 2012, 11:21:01 PM
I'm not sure how to do that. Perhaps if you give guns to inmates on one US prison where the offenders are violent, and compare the effects to a regular prison?

Or, you could compare violent crime rates in countries both before and after gun laws were passed, like this guy did:
http://www.amazon.com/More-Guns-Less-Crime-Understanding/dp/0226493636

States, as in US states I assume.
What if the opposite had been done? What if guns had been removed from everybody but the police, what then? Perhaps that would have reduced violent crimes even more. No way to know.

Guns are tools for killing. That's what they do. They make killing easy. If killing is harder to do, fewer people will probably do it. Or at least succeed at it. By how much is anyone's guess.

Guns a tool for killing or a way to keep some dumb ass from robing me? If they know I got a gun and they come in my house to rob/rape/murder eat my munchies and they know I got a gun, it will make them think twice.
1455  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll for Gun Control Advocates on: August 17, 2012, 11:02:22 PM
There is no such thing as peace..... If someone wants something bad enough they will take it, if it be a person or a president.
1456  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll for Gun Control Advocates on: August 17, 2012, 10:59:17 PM
I'm not sure how to do that. Perhaps if you give guns to inmates on one US prison where the offenders are violent, and compare the effects to a regular prison?

Or, you could compare violent crime rates in countries both before and after gun laws were passed, like this guy did:
http://www.amazon.com/More-Guns-Less-Crime-Understanding/dp/0226493636

Sweet I'm going to get that book for bathroom reading lol
1457  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who or what is behind the recent price increase? on: August 17, 2012, 10:54:57 PM
You got the pump part right lol number of bitcoins on the MT.gox today more then doubled since 11 am
1458  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: August 17, 2012, 10:51:22 PM
just joined!  mining away at 290 mh/s with a 6870 @ 965mhz/1050mhz! 

Welcome!
1459  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll for Gun Control Advocates on: August 17, 2012, 10:47:26 PM
I once had a Wise Gunnery Sargent in the Marine Corps that said "The only reason the United States, has not or will not ever get invaded is, There are enough weapons to arm every Man, Women and Child willing to defend there land. No self respecting person would let any one come take there land. It really has nothing to do with the country it has to do with what is protecting what is yours. Your country, your state, your county, your city, your block. Its yours and if you like the way you live, you would shoot any invader foreign or domestic trying to take it plain and simple."

I am a believer of this 100%, if there is a will there is a way gun or no gun. Crackheads will rob you with a gun or a knife does not matter.
http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2011/Bills/Senate/PDF/S34v0.pdf
 
And here is a perfect example

http://www.jdnews.com/articles/investigating-102834-police-shooting.html

USMC 6541 Aviation Ordie tech.... I built bombs and worked on there electronic systems.
 IYAOYAS b*tches!

**** edit ****
New York has a anti hand gun law and it has DONE NOTHING!
1460  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: August 17, 2012, 08:22:02 PM
I just want to be able to post on the speculation forum. So much fun right now. Mtgox is going crazy..
Oh and BTW, young fellow interested in bitcoin for a while.

Oh yea great time to join lol
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