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14501  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Pundi X - Any store can buy, sell and accept Cryptocurrency on: August 21, 2018, 11:34:36 AM
In current turmoil can't be even imagined that any market not talking about NPXS only can grow 10x. But potential of growing even more than that is increasing with every satoshi which is going out from its value. It is being expected for last quarter to reverse the trend because of events scheduled to happen in these markets.

After the POS devices get installed in shops maybe that would be kickstart to better things including price increase.
14502  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [MOON] Mooncoin 🌙 51285 funded addresses. 2,162,799 txs. 5 block explorers on: August 21, 2018, 11:30:35 AM
There aren't any buy orders for moon coin on coinexchange.io
How is it trading elsewhere?

No idea to be honest. The community seems to be saying one thing but the facts are different. Seems lack of trading in most crypto at the moment because the market is going down everywhere.
14503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MOBILEGO Crowdfund [$53 Million] - Decentralized Mobile Gaming Solutions on: August 21, 2018, 11:28:08 AM
I am not sure I even want to link to their Telegram and Discord. Why? To listen to more nonsense about what the devs and team are up to and how they will save the day? No thank you.

I will wait for updates here from people who provide feedback from what they see on the Telegram and Discord channels.
14504  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING: What Happened to the 50 BTC Jackpot? Was It Just A Fraud? on: August 21, 2018, 11:20:12 AM
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Back to Betking, to assume that the 10 BTC dice jackpot means there will be a significant bankroll is conducive but in the case of Dean Nolan where there is no transparency even to investors it could mean anything.
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There is no 10 BTC dice jackpot. We were talking about a 10 BTC max win.
This is the maximum you can win in a single dice bet.

E.g. you could place 10 BTC at 2.0 odds to win 10 BTC.
Alternatively you could also place 200 BTC at 1.05 odds to win 10 BTC.

However, you couldn´t place 15 BTC at 2.0 odds to win 15 BTC,
because the potential win amount would be bigger than the max win.

As I said in another one of your threads before, we can use the information
of the available max win to make an educated guess about the total
size of the BetKing bankroll.

https://testboo.com/betking-io-review-bitcoin-casino-win-50-btc-progressive-jackpot/

A simple search using "betking 50 btc jackpot site:bitcointalk.org" will show up plenty of links to the "50 BTC Jackpot" that Dean Nolan linked to his own Betking thread before changing the name.

Why offer a jackpot of 50 BTC that was around a ridiculous 10 billion to one odds of winning only to then remove it after heavily promoting it to pull players in?

When advertising the "50 BTC Jackpot dice game" (words Dean Nolan used, not me) he never advertised the near impossible chances of winning at 10 billion to one odds though he claimed at every stage possible the website was "provably fair".

My opinion is not important but that is what people say, they call Betking and Dean Nolan scam and scammer.
14505  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Proofs about Roger Ver´s lies and the Antpool/Viabtc connection on: August 21, 2018, 09:27:07 AM

 Shocked

People in general and newbies especially need to pay attention when visiting bitcoin.com because it is nothing to do with bitcoin.org and that is where people end up thinking Bcash is the same as Bitcoin.
14506  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MOBILEGO Crowdfund [$53 Million] - Decentralized Mobile Gaming Solutions on: August 21, 2018, 09:26:27 AM
https://medium.com/@samadsajanlal/the-gamecredits-mobilego-gnation-situation-as-observed-by-a-3rd-party-e3345b0d4a50

This link speaks volumes from a third party (Samad Sajanlal) that visited the MobileGo (GameCredits & GNation) office in Belgrade, Serbia.

The above link Medium post ends with this:

"It’s sad to see a company that raised so much and made such glorious promises hit the dirt like this, but at least there’s still a slim chance of recovery for investors to get funds back through the proper channels. While I’m not a lawyer, it does seem like there’s a pretty solid case here against GNation, Sergey Sholom, and Maxim Sholom."



Excellent and clarifying Medium post. Unbelievable to see how bad this project has been managed, most if it is just laughable.

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Maxim also stands there and proclaims that previous COO and CTO (Alex M. and Nikola D.) are responsible for the situation they’re in. He then asks point blank to each person in the room, “will you work on MGO? if you won’t I have no reason to pay you.” He demands wallets and “technical support” for the MobileGO blockchain, which proves he is truly incompetent about it. MGO is on the Ethereum platform. Ethereum is the blockchain. There’s no need to do anything for that blockchain to ensure MGO transactions go through, except making sure that there’s enough ETH available in the company’s funds to provide gas for transactions originating from inside the company. There’s also no need for a dedicated MGO wallet — MyEtherWallet, Metamask, Exodus, etc all support it.

Hopefully the foundation can actually help to bring the original vision to life.



It seems like there is no way of knowing where the funds are located, if any are left and what happened to the spent funds in the firs place.

It was refreshing reading the Medium post from Samad Sajanlal. At least we get an idea of what really is going on. Sure we read what Jack had to say but we also needed something else since the "owners" have kept silent here.
14507  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING: What Happened to the 50 BTC Jackpot? Was It Just A Fraud? on: August 21, 2018, 09:18:31 AM
Yes that is somehow true, from dice game to a casino games which they need a lot of bankroll to support their games as well. But it does not mean they are scamming right although the jackpot has not been hit so far because it is too hard for players to hit it for sure

Btw I am not sure how they are going to proof themselves that they hold exact amount like you said and carry everything since their max bet is pretty huge too, because it will be around 1% from their bankroll right? Lets say they have 10btc so they must have 1000 btc bankroll, unless it is from the investment program may be they do not need that much to support their games

I think the best way to answer your question is to link you post the MobileGo thread. This pretty much sums it all up:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1792451.msg44429458#msg44429458

It effectively states that you throw millions at someone just because they publish a whitepaper claiming you will get rich, then when your investment becomes almost useless or almost worthless (or both), you sell knowing you will lose a large portion now or sell later in the knowledge that you will make bigger losses yet still harbour dreams the "owner" will turn it around and you will make a healthy return on your investment.

Back to Betking, to assume that the 10 BTC dice jackpot means there will be a significant bankroll is conducive but in the case of Dean Nolan where there is no transparency even to investors it could mean anything.

Even if the Betking website runs "as it should without scam" which it might or might not, the issues surrounding the 2017 ICO are full of problems. The investors put money in to the ICO in exchange for Betking tokens and if they take that money out by selling their Betking tokens they end up with far less than they invested. This is because the calculation method used by Dean Nolan was against Betking tokens/USD rather than Bitcoin and the token valuation price was calculated on a flawed equation.

Dean Nolan has claimed in the past that it is investors fault for investing without "due diligence". This is the same Dean Nolan that was practically licking investors boots during the Betking ICO and now he does not give a damn about them.

My opinion is not important but that is what people say, they call Dean Nolan and Betking scam and scammer.
14508  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Is it a blatant scam? on: August 21, 2018, 09:00:52 AM
Dean Nolan should part with the BTC from the ICO that went to make a millionaire while investors saw their investment in Betking tokens become useless and worthless.
You say the investment is lost, but at the same time you say Dean is millionaire!

But if Dean is millionaire from the investments, why do you claim it is lost while it is still there?

He never invested anything of his own, people say that he took large amounts of the ICO funds and kept it for himself therefore he became a millionaire overnight. My opinion is not important but that is what people say, they call Dean Nolan and Betking scam and scammer.

With no accountability and accounts to publish and with him allowing no audits it becomes very difficult to prove what he did with the money but one thing is for sure, if the bankroll does not look like it is 50% of the ICO funds and if the 50 BTC Jackpot was a scam (because it was at around 10 Billion to 1 chance of winning which nobody it seems won) along with several other issues then it is clear why people are unhappy with Dean Nolan and Betking because if the whitepaper promises are not even fulfilled it means he probably was dishonest in other things too.

My opinion is not important but that is what people say, they call Betking and Dean Nolan scam and scammer.


14509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Main] Bitcore- BTX - Are you ready for the future? on: August 20, 2018, 10:13:06 PM
I hope Bitcore manages to keep a stable price because the investors confidence will be damaged with all these fluctuations.
14510  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Pundi X - Any store can buy, sell and accept Cryptocurrency on: August 20, 2018, 10:11:18 PM
When Pundi X will have POS devices located at many malls, shops and retailers across the Middle East and beyond then the price of the token will increase by a massive amount.
14511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ColossusXT (COLX) Private | Instant | Sustainable | Mandatory Update v1.1 on: August 20, 2018, 10:07:48 PM
What is going on with the Tshirts and backpacks? Who needs below average looking merchandise? If somebody ends up buying the merchandise where does the generated income go?

Why not keep this ColossusXT crypto related instead of promo-merchandise related?
14512  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Minexcoin - A new era of payments on: August 20, 2018, 10:05:05 PM
MCO Monaco Card is a time waste dream of a failed businessman called Kris Marszalek who was the CEO of a failed company called Ensogo which collapsed and was under investigation in various countires for fraud and now Kris Marszalek id the CEO of Monaco. A whole year later after promising the VISA cards they delivered nothing and have no real plan to go forward either.

Minexcoin is better prepared to go forward and will be more successful than Monaco card.
14513  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MOBILEGO Crowdfund [$53 Million] - Decentralized Mobile Gaming Solutions on: August 20, 2018, 10:00:45 PM
https://medium.com/@samadsajanlal/the-gamecredits-mobilego-gnation-situation-as-observed-by-a-3rd-party-e3345b0d4a50

This link speaks volumes from a third party (Samad Sajanlal) that visited the MobileGo (GameCredits & GNation) office in Belgrade, Serbia.

The above link Medium post ends with this:

"It’s sad to see a company that raised so much and made such glorious promises hit the dirt like this, but at least there’s still a slim chance of recovery for investors to get funds back through the proper channels. While I’m not a lawyer, it does seem like there’s a pretty solid case here against GNation, Sergey Sholom, and Maxim Sholom."

14514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MOBILEGO Crowdfund [$53 Million] - Decentralized Mobile Gaming Solutions on: August 20, 2018, 08:00:45 PM
Here it is: https://www.ccn.com/sports-token-ico-issuer-mobilego-threatens-critics-with-legal-action/

Sports Token ICO Issuer MobileGo Threatens Critics With Legal Action

MobileGo, which bills itself on its website as a dedicated token to bring eSports to everyone, has warned it will consider legal action against people making unreasonable demands against the company.

The situation came to light on Twitter Friday, Aug. 17, when one tweeter commented that an ICO issuer is threatening to sue investors and anyone critical of their execution.
MobileGo performance. Source: Coinimarketcap.com

The tweet includes excerpts from a message from MobileGo CEO Sergey Sholom.

Sholom, writing on the MobileGo channel, stated there has been a lot of “noise” about “investor money” and advised readers there will be legal action considered against parties spreading rumors that undermine the token’s value.

CEO Admits Mistakes

Sholom admitted he made mistakes along the road and that he wasn’t sufficiently involved in the project’s development, but that professional management has been established.

He said there will be no compromises with unsatisfied developers or investors. He claimed there have been malicious rumors from people who did not care what they were doing and some that had their own agenda.

The only “legit” goal of the project is the success of the token and the platform, Sholom said.

As the business is under attack, Sholom said all “immature and ridiculous” demands will be directed to his lawyers who will decide which merit a lawsuit.
Third Party Perspective

Samad Sajanlal, a cryptocurrency consultant who claims to have done some work on the network, offered some background about MobileGo on Medium.

Prior to MobileGo project, a project called GameCredits was founded with the purpose of providing a universal gaming currency called GAME.
GameCredits performance Source: Coinmarketcap.com

Sajanlal said that in late 2016, Sholom and his brother, Maxim, who owned a company called Datcroft, approached GameCredits and promised they could deliver thousands of users in less than a year, along with an online store for games.

Jack Kuveke, who identifies himself as one of the first 10 members of GameCredits, noted on Reddit the Sholom brothers took over as CEO and product director/financial director.

The brothers in 2017 decided to launch their own ICO called MobileGo or $MGO as a complementary token to the GameCredits coin, Sajanlal said. Where GameCredits token is a gamer currency, the MGO token was designed as a token for wagering in eSports tournaments, he noted. The ICO raised $53 million.

In the fall of 2017, the brothers realized their applications would not be ready to go to market, Kuveke said. They then launched GNation as a gaming brand to help cryptocurrencies obtain partnerships with non-cryptocurrency parties, he said.
Developers Dismayed

A faction of developers in April of 2018 complained that the COO the brothers had put in place was engaging in side projects and undermining the overall efficiency, Kuveke said. The Sholoms then began to spend more time at the headquarters, during which it became apparent that they had a vision for the company they were not sharing with the development team.

In the meantime, MobileGo has not removed a white paper from its website that states that more than 300 games from 150 developers are already signed on and that the GameCredits mobile store is scheduled to release in the early second quarter of 2017.

During a July trip to the company’s Belgrade headquarters, Sajanlal said he met the whole team. He goes into a lot of detail on Medium about his visit, which left him with a very unfavorable of the company’s situation.

One day during the course of his July visit, Sajanlal said he was told by employees that the brothers sent an ultimatum that caused some of them to leave the office to go home to work.
Goals Unfulfilled

Sajanlal claims not fulfilling the goals outlined in the white paper is equivalent to an ICO fraud.

While the brothers promised thousands of games integrated with GameCredits, there is only one game that integrates with it, Sajanlal said. He claims the developers are exhausted and many are not working for what they were hired for.

A group within the organization has since decided to split off and build the GameCredits ecosystem under a new name, Sajanlal said. An organization called the GameCredits Foundation is attempting to develop the original GameCredits vision of a universal gamer currency. This organization is not funded by GNation.

Sajanlal claimed the Sholoms have shifted from what they promised in the white paper to humanitarian and charity ventures. He advised them to fund the GameCredits Foundation to build the original vision and to then step aside.

Comments were posted on Reddit a year ago by people claiming to have purchased MGO tokens in an ICO but not received them.

According to isthiscoinascam.com, MobileGo is missing some important profile data, including details about the white paper, the GitHub Repository and about the available exchanges.
14515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] MOBILEGO Crowdfund [$53 Million] - Decentralized Mobile Gaming Solutions on: August 20, 2018, 03:15:45 PM
"if anyone do have claims that he is entitled to something that he did not receive, it will be simple conversation between our lawyers that clear whole situation."

Sergey, can you please provide the contact information for your lawyers.

The whitepaper clearly lists several things which have not been fulfilled. I invested heavily, in part, because of what was stated in the whitepaper.

Getting people to invest money based on false statements/information = fraud.

Please provide a list of the 150 developers you already have signed on as stated in the MGO whitepaper.

Please show me the store with 300 games that was promised OVER A YEAR ago.



You release a statement essentially bullying people that invested millions of dollars and continue to provide little/no evidence of anything substantially accomplished.

You show a lack of leadership. You have exhibited a lack of a business acumen. You present yourself as petty and childish. Releasing a statement like that with so many grammatical errors is simply sloppy. Please explain why anyone should trust you or have any faith in you at this point?

You have raised valid points. I look forward to reading a response from anybody related to the MobileGo team.

Next to nothing mentioned in the whitepaper has been fulfilled.

Where the is the money? Where has the money been spent? Can we all have a wallet address to show exactly how much funds remain please?
14516  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING: What Happened to the 50 BTC Jackpot? Was It Just A Fraud? on: August 20, 2018, 12:15:35 PM
@JollyGood. What do have versus Betking? Bitdice is another gambling site that collected bitcoins from the community through their unaudited ICO but you say nothing against them.

In any case, why is the Betking ICO a scam and Bitdice's ICO not?

I never heard of Bitdice ICO and until or unless I decide to visit their thread to see what is going on I cannot comment.

About Betking, I was on their thread during the ICO asking Dean Nolan why he needed an ICO if he was already a millionaire as he claimed. I read all the nonsense that he wrote and did not buy in to it. The bounty participants were jumping all over anybody trying to silence them that were asking questions about the Betking tokens that were to be given in the ICO. In the end many people say that the whole ICO was designed to make Dean Nolan the owner and operator of Betking a millionaire because it seems he tried on several occasions to sell the website but failed.

The Betking tokens are almost useless as they are worthless. Investors have made a loss on their investment while Dean Nolan has never accounted where the funds are and how they were spent. My personal opinions do not matter but people are calling Beting and Dean Nolan scam and scammer.
14517  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING: 500 BTC, 2250 ETH & 425 LTC Bankroll. A Fraud? on: August 20, 2018, 12:09:24 PM
Max win for dice at betking is 10 BTC right now, most casinos have the max win at 0.5-1% of the effective bankroll.
I don't know how much the bankroll is, but the max win is certainly not too low.

Thank you for the reply. There was once upon a time a 50 BTC dice Jackpot that seems was never won because after the "hype" of a 2017 post-ICO. As the poster in the link suggests:
"1 in 10 billion chance of happening.  And betting 1,000 sats" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4873939.msg44051581#msg44051581

Yes there seems to be a 10 BTC Jackpot for now but the link explains why Dean Nolan and Betking cannot be trusted. He seems to have become a millionaire thanks to the ICO while there is no evidence to show he ever fulfilled the requirements of the ICO: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5gfdxk/betking_trying_to_censor_questions_about_ico/
14518  Economy / Gambling / Re: BETKING: 500 BTC, 2250 ETH & 425 LTC Bankroll. A Fraud? on: August 20, 2018, 09:57:03 AM
I agree with your last sentence. Besides, my personal impression on Betking is a positive one. I had registered there several months ago, participated in a free to enter poker tournament, won over $20 and withdrew it without any strings attached. Although they don't run poker tournaments anymore (or yet?) I still play Roulette and Dice on this site from time to time and I enjoy it. I think they are honest people and they will sort out all their problems eventually, to the joy of their investors.

I am so glad you had a positive experience, all $20 worth of it.

So keeping $20 worth of your wonderful experience aside, was there ever a bankroll worth at least 500 BTC, 2250 ETH and 425 LTC?

The 2017 ICO whitepaper stated 50% of ICO funds will go to the bankroll, all available evidence suggests that never happened.

Since Dean Nolan (the owner and operator of Betking) has locked the Betking thread and tried to silence those that are asking questions about whether this whole ICO was designed to make him wealthy at the expense of innocent gullible investors and the fact he does not present any evidence to show how the investors money has been spent, leads many to conclude the bankroll of 500 BTC, 2250 ETH and 425 LTC was a myth. So where is the money? Dean Nolan did not return it to the investors so who pocked the money? There is no wallet address provided where investors can see how much of the investors crypto remains.

People that feel duped in to investing are saying that Betking and Dean Nolan are scam and scammer. My personal opinions do not matter but it is what investors are saying.

You can celebrate your good experience worth $20 in winnings all the while investors that have seen their investment turn in to useless and worthless Betking tokens are ruing the day they invested in Betking.
14519  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Binance: $BNB The Future of Exchanges. on: August 19, 2018, 07:40:33 PM
BNB tokens are useless and worthless because they exist only to use within the Binance exchange and there are so many exchanges out there.
14520  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Minexcoin - A new era of payments on: August 19, 2018, 07:39:11 PM
Even if Monaco and TenX get their cards out before Minexcoin, there is enough room for multiple cards. Especially if the next crypto bull run whenever that is attracts more crypto investors. If they all reach a working product I am sure many people will get multiple cards. So chill out and stop caring who gets their card out first. The first one to issue might even face some unexpected problems, which the others will learn from and avoid. Therefore being the first crypto company to issue a card might not be as beneficial as everyone thinks.

You have raised valid points. Maybe the first card issuer will be facing problems and teething issues I guess time will tell.

Even if all companies release cards without issues the point remains there is a massive market so one probably will not have monopoly.
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