Thanks for great service as always SSB!  I have one up and hashing after today and getting through rest of things i have today hopefully rest will be up and running

Top notch service as always.

Again.... please read up on Inc. and LLC. That's why its scary. Chances are it will be TH in court NOT Amir officially.  TH is its own legal entity (assuming they did it right) you will sue TH.  Amir and any money he made personally for example salary, would be extremely hard to touch.  And honestly i don't know of a case suing in us for BTC if you paid in it.  Would be interesting to see the court would do with a virtual money not legally recognized in US.

TH has bad dealings with paypal, credit card companies, customers, and at this point it seems the Better Business Bureau.  Them turning it into any kind of a success is going to be a uphill battle.  And it seems from silence they have given up. 

Ask Knight..... he was able to get a face to face and verify chip orders including the one that had magic clause.  (he will yell at me for that again.... but ahh)

Normal channels or not.... they are staying quiet for a reason.   They want you to say keep your money!!!

Expect them to talk again when they have a way to transfer orders to orders for their hosting server.   And if its a pre-order.... or reserve.... yep more time with money in their hands and nothing getting done.

I'm willing to bet they open up hosting to all.  They might give a discount to all the people they wont refund to go to hosting ..... hmmm a percent off something you never get is it truly a percent off?

Used dogie's method with slush and BAM!   Thanks for kickass guide.  Will wait to see if i get 10+ but hitting 9Ghz within minutes.

I also am experiencing low speeds.  Please let me know if you find a pool working better.  I am getting around same range of MHS.

Bar you are a man of your word. 

I think there is a fine line between poorly ran and scamming.  And they are on the line.   With their customer service, and missed promises.  Not to mention chances of anyone seeing full refund that paid with BTC or wire transfer (and no i don't consider a refund if they start to offer to move it to their new server game)

I am speaking in general, not about TH specifically. A private company can go out of business and have a new LLC protecting them self's for 1.5k-2k and prob some pay to a accounting firm. 

If a LLC goes out for example and comes back as a different company, they can literaly buy the assets of the first company and start almost fresh.  They even get tax breaks if TH decided to use scummy accounting and write off equipment they use in a year instead of over multiple.

A bad LLC is its own legal entity.  Meaning once it closes sure there is some left over..... but legal action wont get you much chances are if done right by them. 

Again I'm not saying Amir will do this, but with their poor service all around it scares me.  One day they are a company Terra Hash.  Week later come back as Super Hash, a hosting company and it would screw over anyone with orders with first company.  With it being a private company legally they don't have to share much about their inner workings including salary. 

Again I am not a lawyer, or do i want to be one.  But i do recommend you seriously consider trying to get a refund if you have any means left.  If you don't, i feel for you.

One of my blades up and running thanks SSB!  Once i get done with all my work tomorrow hopefully i can get rest up .

I happen to have some old anker (and offbrand anker 10's laying around)  using them work great.  The original's are really tough metal bricks almost.  I personally use every usb spot with a miner, and use a desk fan (overkill) but it makes it where i don't take up a usb spot with fan on multiple hubs.  Kinda of fun though to have a few rows of them.  Anker quality is top notch, but recently with all the hubs I have been more into the price per port on hub as my main factor.  Sadly the new Anker 9 went down a port and also changed one to charge so you get 8 true ports, and 1 fan at a cost per hub that is a little high.

The new hubs i ordered are MCM (if you google there is a 15 percent off promo code i believe on official site) cant vouch for it yet personally but its price per port is extremely cheap if you need multiple. They seem a little slow at shipping though at MCM.  SSB is so good he beat my hubs here lol .  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253749.0 has a really good comparison of hubs and how many people can get successfully running on each brand and a lot of testing.

If you do decide to order some are lots of fun to actually do some mining.  I have lost track of order number's with SSB but if you decide to try some out truly give him a shot.  Great communication, cheap prices, and awesome customer service.  He has went above and beyond what he has had to do on multiple occasions.

Great guy!   Cant explain the amount of customer service you get.  I have 40 of my new ones hashing away next up setting up my blades and then hopefully in next day or two set up rest of usb miners once hubs are in

Again great customer service you wont regret order.  Have done multiple orders of different types of items.  Always treated me right.

If non-hashing prototype board falls in TH offices does anyone hear it?
Does working at TH mean you can telecommute to the office as nothing gets accomplished there or not?
Did you know TH really stands for TurdHash as .... you know .... never gets done.

...... back to normal in here i feel home.

Hmmm.....  over a day of happiness in TH thread..... I'm thinking Amir should hire your son bar for pr.  He has done more good for them then the company has been able to do in months.

TH.... if you ever do make a board..... ship a prototype to this kid!

Congrats bar!  I hope you will have the youngest bitcoin miner out there soon! +1 more more miner in the world 

Really wish you would release name of what hub is in pictures.

You obtained proof of a chip order.... that later they were able to pull out of because of some magic clause you never told us about.  At that time you lost credibility on being a source of proof.  

If you want to stand up for them take pictures of all their boards and components they claim to have.  I know i would love to see a pic of the 100 cases. Also if there is a claim of a k-16 working with low hw errors.... take a video of it.

How come you are one of the few who can seem to get a hold of Amir?   He seems to hide in a hole unless to try to stop refunds, or pre-announce a announcement anymore.   Or..... announce a working k-16 without a video.

I consider TH to be TurdHash.... as they never seem to produce insert word here.

If you start a hardware production business..... and don't produce then start a mining hosting service I consider the first business a failure.  If they survive good for them, it still does not mean then didn't fail at hardware production.

And you could always buy the hardware yourself at a smaller size.... you don't have to spend 100k.  Personally I like having hardware in hand.  But that is just me.

Even Amir has admitted it at this point to try buying hardware from another company to host.

They don't trust their own hardware production on their hosting company.  And to switch from manufacturing to hosting shows they failed at attempt one.  The sad thing is trying to use the money they still have from people who didn't get refunds to try basically a new business.   And once they open up their "25 percent reservation fee" All this is to help them stay afloat.  I'm willing to be their 3 month refund idea is when they either have something or give up.

Would be great if you shipped to one of your COOP members in us.  Re-shipped from there, makes shipping much better.

Thanks bar.  I didn't know what a k-64 was truly considered after it not being one pcb, and considering it a k-64.  Appreciate the clarification.

This could be a stupid question.  Thought of it today, feel free to flame if i am missing something.

But they say they are working on a k-64.... but in reality they are working on linking 4 k-16.  If a k-64 is not one board and is using 4 k-16's why even offer a k-64?   As they said before K-16's would be able to link together.

Is a true k-64 not all on one pcb board?

If by any word you mean even a video or proof showing single k-16's hashing with low hardware errors, let alone 4 working together....... then no.