I didnt say there has to be a movement. Just a wall. Im tired of people thinking walls are a thing of the past and that nobody owns 5k coins anymore. Im going to see a wall on there. I dont care if Donald Trump has to place the order.

What thread are we in anyway?

Thats the whole idea. Its not possible to use bitcoin as a currency without the lightning network. its too slow and the fees are way way too high.

ive been on zillow for the past 2 weeks ever since I discovered toxic mold in my apartment, but cant find anything i want. I sold so many coins just to lock in the ability to leave my job AND break my lease and find a new place.

[ 11,000 was passed so therefore it must hit 49,000 and in 2 years it will be 1 million ] ... can you pass whatever youre smoking

Actually the way regular stocks trade is boring. They often dont have corrections. Whenever there is news they have thousands of financial experts instantly calcualte the right value and put it there with massive leverage. So the chart just looks like a bunch of L shapes and daytrading sucks. Steep corrections are a crypto thing.

Why:
1. Security - not losing your coins to a mistake, a hack, an exchange, a government, etc.
2. The safest long term plan if you truly believe bitcoin is going to $1M or whatever
3. Tax reasons

Why not:
1. You're a bear, or
2. You cant stand to temporarily be down 80%, or
3. You want to try to daytard, or
4. You dont want to have to have inactive money for a number of months or years while btc goes sideways and would rather use the cash on other trades that are going up more rapidly, or
5. You need to buy a car, house, hookers, coke, etc.

Does an early adopter really need a donation?

It might take the exchanges screwing up again to really get the dump started.

Im still wanting to know how all the exchanges had a problem at once.

We're now in FOMO. My relatives are coming to me like 'OMG OMG OMG OMG IT KEEPS GOING UP. I have to get in now I'm going to miss out people are saying its going to 40k. I cant get all my money on an exchange,  pleasssee would you sell me your coins'

14144 would make a nice historical repeating number for the top

Hannukah starts Dec 12

There will be endless delays with the SEC, etc. which drop the price.

We havent had a single crash up here - only frothiness.

I can't wait til a 2k or 5k or 10k sell order pops on the book and all the noobs are like wtf is that

I never made a call at $3000.  In fact I had multiple people ask me prrsonally if they should sell and I told them not to .

The only reason cme futures is bad is because when the sec cancels it, btc will tank hard. But if there were never the future's tease, it wouldn't be a big deal and btc would quietly be making an uptrend past $5k.

I wonder if future's will make gbtc a good short snice people don't need gbtc and its ridiculous premium anymore.  I'm thinking of a play where you simultaneously long futures and short gbtc

It doesn't matter how high it goes, even if it goes to $30k, it's going to correct to the same level somewhere between 2k and 5k. So higher price increase's don't increase the reward/risk, it decreases it. You have this backwarfs. No amount of increase is going to change my mind and make me want to go all in again. That's called chasing and ends catastrophically.

I highly advise against the poster above. Its up 1200% in a matter of months in a full tilt bubble phase and speculating on scalping another tiny 50% or so rise is folly. Right now everyone in the world who doesnt havea clue what bitcoin is, is in just to ride the upwards momentum train. Were talking an all you can eat weak hands buffet. It would be much better to wait a couple months and get 3 times more coins than if you bought back now.