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1481  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP Tea Party Debate: Audience Cheers, Says Society Should Let Uninsured Die on: September 14, 2011, 05:44:41 AM
Flip Pro let me ask you the other side of that question:

Do you think government burocrats should be in the business of deciding who is worth of getting treatment and deciding who is not worth being saved?
I rather have a publicly elected "burocrat" who doesn't care about profits, and only cares about the quality of my care, than have an insurance broker who doesn't give a damn about my health, and is only focused on making money off me.

So yes, you would preffer the opinion of a burocrat to decide if your mother is "worthy" of receiving treatment or should be left to die. Honestly, I just can not understand it.

You are intelligent enough to not believe your justification. Burocrats are not interested in getting more money? Burocrats are interested in you? You know government burocrats and politicians are humans, just like business man, and most of them, as far as their job goes, care about money and not you.

When you advocate government control you are advocating giving monopollistic power to some people that care about getting more money and dont care about you (except for discovering the best way to lie to you to get your vote).

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Life is protected in the constitution that Republicans and Tea Party followers like to spout about at rally's. If it's protected in the constitution, then by no means should anyone be living without healthcare since not having healthcare is in essence denying yourself life, it is literally suicidal behavior.  We all need healthcare to visit the medical professionals who extend our lives well beyond the years that people were living before healthcare even existed.

1. Advocating against government healthcare is not advocating against healthcare, its actually advocating against bad healthcare.
2. If you go the constitutional way you are going to loose and you know it. The constitution of the USA does not allow for government healthcare.

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I think every single person deserves the right to free, high quality healthcare. How do we pay for it? Easy, raise Warren Buffets taxes, it's disgusting that someone like him pays 17% while people who have absolutely no health insurance somehow deserve to suffer because they are MUCH less fortunate financially. Lets get down to the nitty gritty here, which is something conservatives seem to hate to do. One party wants to take the country in a direction where every single human being in this country gets high grade health care, and the other party want's a primitive "every man for himself" mentality to surface. This kind of thinking is destructive, and absolutely counter productive to the progression of the Human race.

Government healthcare is not free and its not high quality. You know how I know? Because I suffer it. Let me give you an example: My grandma had cataracts and she was starting loosing her vision. She lived alone. The government said there was a long queu for that operation and she had to wait 6 months. 6 months without barely seeing. Her daughters got together and payed for her a private operation. And all of them had been paying government healthcare all their lives. Now my grandma, who has payed government healthcare, is paying as well a private insurer. Thats the reality of what you are asking. You are asking for hospitals collapsing, not metaphorically, our authorities asks us not to go to the hospiral unless its live or dead some weekends each year because the hospitals basically can not deal with people getting ill (yes this is the Europe you are told is great) and long waiting lists for basic operations. Thats what you call human progress and the reality behind the promises you are hearing.

Its not random that most europeans countries, like Germany or some nordic countries, have gone away from government run healthcare and now run in some sort of mandatory private insurance system.
I don't have the time to reply to posts like this. All I can say is it's impossible to argue with you, because you believe that government fundamentally flawed. I don't believe this, I choose to believe that there are good people out there who run for office with the intention of helping others.

Yes I would rather have a congress man that me and my peers VOTED in to legislate healthcare, than have some HC C.E.O who I have NO power or influence over besides MONEY. Legisliating my healthcare.
1482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 20130 ixcoin please send some miners there. on: September 14, 2011, 05:38:29 AM
Well at the moment the IXcoin exchange has the following notice:
Sadly it was a necessary step to protect the exchange against the threat until ixcoin/i0coin provides steps to defend against it.

IXcoin and I0coin are under no threat LOL
Why because you say so? The exploit you found for SLC can be preformed on all the other crypto-currencys... You trying to court people to one specific currency just because it's "safe" in your eyes is pathetic. It's funny seeing you in these forums running with a huge power trip all because you "can" do something.
1483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 20130 ixcoin please send some miners there. on: September 14, 2011, 05:08:12 AM
Bitcoinex you gonna kill IXcoin to?
1484  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP Tea Party Debate: Audience Cheers, Says Society Should Let Uninsured Die on: September 14, 2011, 05:05:37 AM
Flip Pro let me ask you the other side of that question:

Do you think government burocrats should be in the business of deciding who is worth of getting treatment and deciding who is not worth being saved?
I rather have a publicly elected "burocrat" who doesn't care about profits, and only cares about the quality of my care, than have an insurance broker who doesn't give a damn about my health, and is only focused on making money off me.

Life is protected in the constitution that Republicans and Tea Party followers like to spout about at rally's. If it's protected in the constitution, then by no means should anyone be living without healthcare since not having healthcare is in essence denying yourself life, it is literally suicidal behavior.  We all need healthcare to visit the medical professionals who extend our lives well beyond the years that people were living before healthcare even existed.

I think every single person deserves the right to free, high quality healthcare. How do we pay for it? Easy, raise Warren Buffets taxes, it's disgusting that someone like him pays 17% while people who have absolutely no health insurance somehow deserve to suffer because they are MUCH less fortunate financially. Lets get down to the nitty gritty here, which is something conservatives seem to hate to do. One party wants to take the country in a direction where every single human being in this country gets high grade health care, and the other party want's a primitive "every man for himself" mentality to surface. This kind of thinking is destructive, and absolutely counter productive to the progression of the Human race.

Although the Tea Party is closer aligned to the Republican Party than the Democrat Party I think it is unfair and a mistake to reference the Tea Party and the Republican Party as the same or even similar. The Republican Party, and I mean the Party itself not republican voters, has lost it's way and forgotten we have a Constitution. Republican first and Tea Party second the so called leader of the Tea Party Caucus, Bachmann, has signed onto The Patriot Act which IMHO you cannot agree with and respect the fundamentals of The Constitution. With little deviation the Republican Party as a whole supports Life yet at the same time supports such actions as the U.N. Bombing of Libya, a sovereign nation that posed no security risk to the U.S.
I think it's funny that you tell me not to lump the Tea Party and Republicans together, when the Tea Party just finished hosting a debate for all the Republican Presidential candidates.
1485  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I want to teach you how to make money. [Sticky Please] on: September 14, 2011, 04:53:38 AM
Great let's rape and steal from an already crippled anemic economy! Is this really the type of stuff that the early adopters in this community should be teaching? How about you get on the development board Maria, and teach us how to build some products that revolve around Bitcoin, instead of sending even more bot's and pump & dumpers to destroy our economy.
1486  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GOP Tea Party Debate: Audience Cheers, Says Society Should Let Uninsured Die on: September 14, 2011, 03:49:12 AM
Flip Pro let me ask you the other side of that question:

Do you think government burocrats should be in the business of deciding who is worth of getting treatment and deciding who is not worth being saved?
I rather have a publicly elected "burocrat" who doesn't care about profits, and only cares about the quality of my care, than have an insurance broker who doesn't give a damn about my health, and is only focused on making money off me.

Life is protected in the constitution that Republicans and Tea Party followers like to spout about at rally's. If it's protected in the constitution, then by no means should anyone be living without healthcare since not having healthcare is in essence denying yourself life, it is literally suicidal behavior.  We all need healthcare to visit the medical professionals who extend our lives well beyond the years that people were living before healthcare even existed.

I think every single person deserves the right to free, high quality healthcare. How do we pay for it? Easy, raise Warren Buffets taxes, it's disgusting that someone like him pays 17% while people who have absolutely no health insurance somehow deserve to suffer because they are MUCH less fortunate financially. Lets get down to the nitty gritty here, which is something conservatives seem to hate to do. One party wants to take the country in a direction where every single human being in this country gets high grade health care, and the other party want's a primitive "every man for himself" mentality to surface. This kind of thinking is destructive, and absolutely counter productive to the progression of the Human race.
1487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SC is dead??? 0,0025$ per SC on btc-e.com on: September 13, 2011, 02:57:11 PM
We will see what happens next.
1488  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 13, 2011, 02:36:13 PM
But does nobody else think it is a bad thing that bitcoin is dominated by white dudes? You idiots mock the idea of even pausing for a second to analyse the consequences of that.

You constantly offer racist problems but no solutions other than changing what has occurred and assuming what has occurred is wrong because of the fools who made Bitcoin were not born with the right heritage for you


Technically the dude who made Bitcoin is the farthest thing from a "well-off White anglo male" LOL.

http://bitcoincloset.com/product.php?id_product=39

LAUGH at my shameless plug in this complete troll thread Cheesy !
1489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ALERT] BitcoinEXpress says Solidcoin is next on: September 13, 2011, 12:49:51 PM
Solidcoin shutting down till a fix for 51% attacks is developed. http://solidcointalk.org/topic/211-solidcoin-shutting-down-at-block-35250/
1490  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 13, 2011, 11:41:00 AM
We don't see a lot of black people up here in Northern Canada.

But from my observations I can make several general assumptions: Black people don't like curling nor hockey nor country music and they hate getting their ride stuck in the snow and they totally suck at camouflage.


"Say it ain't so, Joe!"


I can't tell when you are serious, or when you're trolling lol.
1491  Other / Politics & Society / GOP Tea Party Debate: Audience Cheers, Says Society Should Let Uninsured Die on: September 13, 2011, 11:38:41 AM
A bit of a startling moment happened near the end of Monday night's CNN debate when a hypothetical question was posed to Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas).

What do you tell a guy who is sick, goes into a coma and doesn't have health insurance? Who pays for his coverage? "Are you saying society should just let him die?" Wolf Blitzer asked.

"Yeah!" several members of the crowd yelled out.

The level of fundamentalism has no become toxic folks...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/12/tea-party-debate-health-care_n_959354.html
1492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Namecoin attack threat - Please withdraw your Namecoins ASAP on: September 13, 2011, 02:35:47 AM
The fact these "hackers" are allowed to post here even though some of them have already caused monetary loss to others is surprising. By helping facilitate people known to have done such things the forum owners themselves could be liable for damages. And I'd advise anyone affected to date by such things to look into it.

... says CoinHunter?  I'd recommend posting thoughts of this nature under a new name... heh
Coinhunter (like him or not) has been pretty consistent with his personality/results from the start.
1493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 13, 2011, 02:09:43 AM
Liberals will say literally anything is racist or sexist or homophobic, it's some kind of cry for attention I think.
I can't believe you are still here. That should be regarded as a malicious link (warrants for ban).
1494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] SolidCoin - new and improved block chain. Secure from pools on: September 13, 2011, 01:57:16 AM
LOL @SC DYING, bet there are some who are just hating the fact they listened to Smoothie and sold all their coins at .001 LOL  Cheesy SMOOTHIES LOVING THIS PROFIT!
1495  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 12, 2011, 11:00:38 PM
They just want an excuse for the libertarian-sentiment on this forum. If everybody is white, it's much easier to hate.
You're right, but at the same time you should stop trying to promote Bitcoin-Libertarianism down everyone's throats. If everyone just stepped the hell away from Bitcoin, and stopped trying to create "tags" for it, it would be in a much more stable footing. Giving it tags opens it up for attacks, and we simply cannot have that if we want this to survive in the long term.

Bitcoin is an open source peer-to-peer electronic currency. Affiliating it to any political party/ ideology/ race/ gender/ or religion only hinders it's progression into mainstream society.

This means that Bitcoin does not need Libertarianism to survive, it just needs to be useful at what it does, which is process payments without the need for a bank or third party clearinghouse.
1496  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 12, 2011, 10:53:03 PM
This is just like that "why do all Liberals hate Bitcoin thread"! Lol is it a surprise that I'm not white ? Must be according to this post.

I'm Latino by the way, not that it matters in any way, other than to repudiate everything this thread is starting to become.

A few anecdotes doesn't negate the fact that the community, and to be honest most users of Bitcoin as a whole, seem to be well-off white males, while well-off white males make up a much smaller sliver of the world's population.
You are so wrong...

First off the "Bitcoin Community" is an international community of people from almost every single corner of the planet.Please stop trying to playoff the "Bitcoin community" as a bunch of well-off white males off some forum, when it couldn't be further away from the truth. If anything it's a poor community of students/young entrepreneurs from all over the world coming together, to try to get a piece of the "next big thing". If there are any "well-off white males" here with allot of dough, they sure as hell ain't spending enough of it...
1497  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 12, 2011, 10:49:39 PM
I'm "black" and I use bitcoin and I had a good laugh reading some of the posts on this thread.

Who lent you the money to get into bitcoin?
Moron...

The trolls now become racist, oh what a surprise!
1498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Don't Black People Use Bitcoins? on: September 12, 2011, 10:47:37 PM
This is just like that "why do all Liberals hate Bitcoin thread"! Lol is it a surprise that I'm not white ? Must be according to this post.

I'm Latino by the way, not that it matters in any way, other than to repudiate everything this thread is starting to become.
1499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Only 9/11 Explosion I see is in the Bitcoin Price! on: September 11, 2011, 10:02:35 PM
Bitcoin prices will have to stabilize for 3 months before I put any more greenbacks into it.
1500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Spend bitcoins or nobody will accept btc on: September 09, 2011, 02:09:14 AM
Did you just realize this?  Wink
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