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1481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 21, 2014, 03:16:42 AM



Two more. That's it, I'm taking a break. Cool

XwBidPQVnGFEzqfJbTybS9gyXX2yu1JbfM


I really love the blue one!!!
1482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 21, 2014, 03:14:47 AM
Anyone else here getting the feeling the price of Darkcoin is about to explode?

Normally I don't make posts like this, but I'm feeling a breakout tonight.  I'm liking what I see in the charts.

Hmm can you explain...
Crystal ball?
The video with 96 views 2 hours ago?
Ilumination?  
The successfull test of DarkSend yesterday?

Tongue   Grin

I feel it too, in the bones, LOL.  Otherwise I would have waited to but my dark, but I fear I won't see it this low again Sad .  Our sweet early days are over, I feel nostalgic, LOL
1483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 21, 2014, 03:11:39 AM


Anyone else impressed that we're the ONLY crypto that is up today above #20?

I wish we were, because my funds just cleared and I bought my dark with it, LOL, but I think it's held lower because of all the Mtgox problems, so I'm thankful I could still buy some at an Ok price.   (actually it's probably a great price, but a week ago, I could have gotten 3 times as many dark with the bitcoin I bought, grrr,  had to wait a week for my bits to clear Sad )

yah, this coin is still relatively unknown, it's going to explode soon. 
1484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 21, 2014, 03:05:40 AM
I was thinking about this earlier, does anyone know how hot GPUs run mining bitcoin? If that runs cooler I would tend to think the extra power draw and heat is because scrypt pretty much rewrites the entire ram available as fast as possible over and over again, whereas Bitcoin/Darkcoin would only use a small amount of ram.

You aren't kidding.. I just checked my 270's and they are only utilizing 150-200 MB's each..

I wonder how the 260x hashes on this algorithm.. anyone here have one?

I don't  have a great gpu, but I did notice that I could set the -I up way higher mining darkcoin than I could mining litecoin.  FYI so give it a try??
1485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 21, 2014, 02:55:03 AM
so whats different about this coin, if you can tell me I will buy 100 of them now

This is the only coin that will obfuscate the transactions from the wallet.  No third party that has to be trusted with your information to obfuscate it for you (mixing services) such as fedoracoin.  It's an actual coin, not a coin as a way to turn other coin's transactions into obfuscated transactions like zerocoin, which hasn't had an established coin implement their technology yet, and I don't think they're ready to do so yet anyway.

DarkCoin has an untrusted solution, that means you don't have to trust any entity. No one can cheat. It works the same and as part of the  blockchain.  That is why Darkcoin is above the rest and will remain so even when the source is opened.  It isn't so easily implemented into an existing coin, though it can be in time, so it means a lot being the originator and the first.
1486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 21, 2014, 02:16:04 AM
Well, my coinbase bitcoins finally cleared.  When I bought the bitcoins, I could have bought 185 darkcoins with them.  Today, I bought 34.

Isn't there a way  where you can buy when you want to buy, directly from your checking or something?  It jus sucks to have to wait an entire week for your coin!  (bad luck it being a holiday weekend)
1487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 21, 2014, 01:50:47 AM
compile with ERROR.



make[2]: *** [minerd-hash.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.3-avx-aes'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.3-avx-aes'
make: *** [all] Error 2

 Huh

NEW VERSION CPU MINER, ABOUT 10% IMPROVEMENT*

https://github.com/elmad/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.3-avx-aes

I improved the cpu miner for another 10% and updated the project on github. I tried different processors and I've seen an improvement from 8% to 11%.
Remember, this version works only for processor that support the AES-NI instruction set.

Here the list of Intel processors supporting it:
http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced/?AESTech=true

And for AMD, the series:
Bulldozer-based, Piledriver-based and Jaguar-based.



Let me know what is your improvement with your cpu. Binaries for Windows version will come (some tip can accellerate the process Tongue)



*Donations are very appreciated Cheesy

make sure you have all the requirements, something like this on Ubuntu:

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install -y build-essential m4 libssl-dev libdb++-dev libboost-all-dev libminiupnpc-dev git automake libcurl4-openssl-dev

sudo git clone https://github.com/elmad/darkcoin-cpuminer-1.3-avx-aes

cd darkcoin-cpuminer-1.3-avx-aes

sudo chmod +x autogen.sh

sudo ./autogen.sh

sudo ./configure CFLAGS="-O3 -march=native"

sudo make

1488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 21, 2014, 12:21:22 AM


I have my kids watching this guy.  He is clear, doesn't talk down to  you but makes it simple enough to understand.  Like it!  Thanks for posting!
1489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 20, 2014, 09:48:14 PM
Someone has still mining with cpu miner?

An improved version of the miner may come soon Smiley

I am, but I'm not much of a miner, LOL  I have a free tiny account at amazon (1 core) and my Ubuntu, and when they show up on my pool, I'm doing 56 to 112 kh/s, LOL
1490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 20, 2014, 09:45:00 PM
Given the variable block rewards, is there any way to know how many DRK have been mined to date? I'm watching the dumping on the exchanges at anywhere near 0.002 and there's no way it can be mine-to-dump. There are only 13,248 being mined per day at the current diff / reward, yet people are dumping hundreds and thousands at a time. Much of it must be early miners or buyers who have the attention span of a goldfish, and I'm curious how many of them can be left at the current turnover rate.

I think there are less than 350,000 coins up to this  point (it was around 300,000 a week or so ago?)

The darksend is working, eduffield is cautious and wants to make sure nothing unforeseen happens when it's implemented.  Worked great last night.



You are missing a zero there tantestefana. Plus you've been mining them for a while!

Really?  yah, I mined from the beginning, but not knowing what I was doing.  Wish I  had known about amazon ec2 and windows azure in the beginning, because all I had were my two duel core computers, LOL.  So, nope, I'm not one of the rich Sad

But I know you're rich spiritually Tante, and thats what matters.

Ha ha, Well, it's been an awesome learning experience!
1491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 20, 2014, 06:31:06 PM
Given the variable block rewards, is there any way to know how many DRK have been mined to date? I'm watching the dumping on the exchanges at anywhere near 0.002 and there's no way it can be mine-to-dump. There are only 13,248 being mined per day at the current diff / reward, yet people are dumping hundreds and thousands at a time. Much of it must be early miners or buyers who have the attention span of a goldfish, and I'm curious how many of them can be left at the current turnover rate.

I think there are less than 350,000 coins up to this  point (it was around 300,000 a week or so ago?)

The darksend is working, eduffield is cautious and wants to make sure nothing unforeseen happens when it's implemented.  Worked great last night.



You are missing a zero there tantestefana. Plus you've been mining them for a while!

Really?  yah, I mined from the beginning, but not knowing what I was doing.  Wish I  had known about amazon ec2 and windows azure in the beginning, because all I had were my two duel core computers, LOL.  So, nope, I'm not one of the rich Sad
1492  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 20, 2014, 06:23:45 PM
Given the variable block rewards, is there any way to know how many DRK have been mined to date? I'm watching the dumping on the exchanges at anywhere near 0.002 and there's no way it can be mine-to-dump. There are only 13,248 being mined per day at the current diff / reward, yet people are dumping hundreds and thousands at a time. Much of it must be early miners or buyers who have the attention span of a goldfish, and I'm curious how many of them can be left at the current turnover rate.

I think there are less than 350,000 coins up to this  point (it was around 300,000 a week or so ago?)

The darksend is working, eduffield is cautious and wants to make sure nothing unforeseen happens when it's implemented.  Worked great last night.

1493  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 20, 2014, 04:33:32 PM
Do we have an Official "Darkcoin accepted here" banner? If not we may need one soon, Please post imgur links here or the DRK subreddit!

This is the only one available, I think

this isn't good enough.. I'll improve it later. the top font looks unprofessional.



-onetime

That isn't too bad, I know we have some graphic talent here. Let's get the ball rolling as I'm starting to advertise for us and we will need a proper "Accepted here" banner for merchants!

Also everyone don't forget to vote on mintpal to add DRK, and retweet my posts that concern Darkcoin. People are noticing us but with our great devs rolling out these big features soon it should catch on very nicely. https://twitter.com/Kreative_Crypto/status/436486080355770368 RETWEET!


How's about something simple like this?



Tips welcome: Xo1BJ2GA2Ei9wN92NbrXKhRCDUYYiwqt4o
Yes, this one is best and can easily be given a white background for choice  Smiley  However, I would  much rather see the non-shiny version of the coin.  The shiny one doesn't look so good when it's small and is too much in my opinion at any size Smiley
1494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 20, 2014, 04:19:19 PM
I've added a wiki to the subreddit. PM if you'd like to see something added or if you'd like to contribute:

http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/wiki/index

It has GOT to have an explanation as to what makes darkcoin different.  I don't even think half the people on this thread understand.  There are other coins that claim to do the same thing, but they do it differently.  Some use a service that obfuscates the transactions (this puts privacy into the hands of a central source, it  has to be trusted, which makes me wonder why not trust the Federal government then?)  Others have something similar but it bloats the block chain tremendously.  And yet others have a system which only works if you start off with 100% premine.  I assume this is a system that avoids bloat, but it means a totally different system.  I'm not technical enough to write this info up, BUT IT MUST BE CLARIFIED!!!  eduffield has implemented a refined version of coinjoin, not a direct version, it's different but the same concept.  It is the first FUNCTIONAL privacy centric coin.  

Do we have an Official "Darkcoin accepted here" banner? If not we may need one soon, Please post imgur links here or the DRK subreddit!




Very good!  We'llprobably need several versions so that it will fit on any site.  This in white will be necessary, but I love the grey
1495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 20, 2014, 05:25:11 AM
a mixing service is again, a centralized solution in the hands of an entity you have to trust.  Darksend is decentralized.  It is managed by the wallet, mixed up in the blockchain and there is no need for trust, a trustless solution Smiley  AND it doesn't bloat the blockchain!
1496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 20, 2014, 05:12:45 AM
And what is the difference between Darkcoin and DarkWallet's Coinjoin implementation?

It's not in the native client, it's a browser extension and it's not decentralized. In the world of crypto decentralized solutions will always win, we need all of this technology to be trustless.

And this regarding darkwallet
1497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 20, 2014, 05:11:27 AM
I’ve heard some chatter and misconceptions about the difference between Darkcoin vs Zerocoin, so here’s a write up about the pros and cons of each approach and what they do differently.

Darkcoin

First off, most people start by asking is DarkSend actually real and does it work? Yes! Checkout the development progress here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=467857.0

DarkSend is based off of Greg Maxwells original idea called Coinjoin, with some added improvements and decentralization. The decentralized approach is important because the logic is self contained in the client, which is managed by the users themselves. This is a trustless solution.

Darkcoin uses the base transaction layer to sign it’s transactions in much the same way that Bitcoin does. The mathematics are tried and true and have been used for years in computer security and banking.

Transactions will be grouped together and the same cost as sending transactions on the normal network. Both DarkSend and normal transactions will be available to choose from, but at some point we might default to DarkSend (and go Dark).

It’s also worth noting that this approach doesn’t bloat the blockchain at all either. Transactions are the same size as the would have been.


Zerocoin

The approach Zerocoin takes is to use some exotic mathematics to hide the identity with a zero-knowledge proof. This allows a higher quality of anonymity, but also could have some unforeseen hole that will be exploited later.

Checkout this link to see the mathematics I'm talking about: https://github.com/Zerocoin/libzerocoin/blob/master/AccumulatorProofOfKnowledge.cpp

Zerocoin's proof of work is in the 2kb range, which was reduced from 1024kb in Mathew Green’s original work. These proofs must be stored in the blockchain for each transaction that goes through the network for confirmation purposes and the ledger history, so this will cause a lot of bloat. There is also a need for these proofs to be processed by the networks nodes, being larger will cause more intense CPU usage with smaller transaction rates.  

The spec for Zerocoin also requires a 100% premine. I believe mining is what gives cryptocurrency their base value, so this could be a problem for the currency in the long haul.

With the high CPU usage, how will the network deal with DDOS attacks? I could send bad proofs that must be processed. It’s much harder with the Bitcoin protocol because the math is pretty fast and you would be banned quickly.

Imagine if Zerocoin had to deal with 20 transactions a minute, that would be 58.98MB/day that will be added to the blockchain. After a year, that would add up to 21.5GB. Now god forbid you have to reindex this, you’ll have to process all of the proofs on your computer? That might take another year to complete.

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I think the Darkcoin approach has the best mix of features, with the least risk and it’s decentralized. So we definitely have our place in the market.


References:

Coinjoin spec: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.0;all


I'm requoting this because everyone needs to read it!  Bolding by me
1498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 20, 2014, 05:09:57 AM
Test all you want.

It would be nice to have an "expert," (cough, some knowledgeable media) third party verify that the transaction is anonymous and explain why.
Such an article should also include an explination as to why bitcoin is NOT anonymous (and infact it's extremely public unlike normal financial transactions, which is a common misconception about Bitcoin.

Good point and agree !
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eduffield wrote a great explanation at this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5241291#msg5241291
1499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 20, 2014, 03:47:58 AM
I think the test went off really well. The process works - now it just needs some cosmetic tweaks to make it more user-friendly.

How about a dropdown from the send button that give you standard or darksend options?

Yah, that or two buttons??  Just so people know the options are there (they may not realize there is a drop-down? )
1500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | Anonymous (alpha) | KGW | No Premine | ASIC Resistant on: February 20, 2014, 03:43:57 AM
Hey everyone, we just finished another round of testing of darksend.  It's quite interesting.  It was implemented in the send button, so nothing fancy, just like sending any other amounts.  There might be a choice in the finished version, to send via darksend or just send the normal way.  This is going to be really easy to use.  Also, it seemed to go fast, though I don't know, we were not a lot of people, and I don't know if it would matter how many people were using it?

Very cool
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