On paper Porto will win the battle over Shakhtar, in fact we can see and refer to these two teams both from the depth of the team and the level of their respective squads. actually, I don't underestimate Shakhtar. It's just that, in my personal version, their victory over Barcelona could be said to be luck. In the sixth matchday match, Porto will act as the host team. and as you said in this post, we both agree.

Likewise if we refer to the odds that the bookmaker gives. there is quite a significant difference, Porto with @1.49 and Shakhtar with @6.40. It seems clear, from the odds factor we can also see the comparison between these two teams. Apart from that, in the first leg meeting Shakhtar lost with a score of 1-3 at their own headquarters. So it would be very natural if Porto were given more priority in the group phase meeting later.
It's just that Porto shouldn't underestimate their opposing team because after all, Shakhtar is in fact capable of overthrowing Barcelona. So, there always has to be thorough preparation to play the deciding match later. however, it seems that this match will not be as interesting as the matches in other groups. In short, my estimate is that Porto will accompany Barcelona into the next phase.

For now, yes, in the future we will find out soon. I think this competition still has a lot of matches left, along the way, each team will always encounter its own obstacles. however, in the last 12 matches in the Bundesliga, Alonso was able to keep his squad on the right track. and for me, this has become a success even though the season is not actually over. I mean, this team is filled with a squad that doesn't have many stars. however, they have remained consistent so far.
As you said, the season is still long and anything can still happen. that's one of them, the uniqueness of football.

Tomorrow, it will be a challenge match for Xabi Alonso's squad against Dortmund. even though they play at the BayArena, Dortmund is not a team that has just appeared in this competition. and even though Leverkuseen is superior if we refer to the odds provided by the bookies. however, that doesn't mean Terzic will just let his team be defeated by Leverkusen. I think in any case, Dortmund has a chance to overthrow Xabi Alonso's squad at BayArena. plus, Terzic is a quite reliable and experienced coach. If this match ends with a minor result, that means giving Bayern a chance. So, let's watch this fight tomorrow.

As for Stuttgart, currently they are still playing their match against Bremen. the game was approaching the end, the position was 2-0 for Stuttgart. the point is, so far Stuttgart is still able to stay in the top four of the standings. and unfortunately, Bayern Munich's match against Union Berlin had to be postponed. Well, we'll see how far Leverkusen goes. because Munich will not let them stay at the top of the standings for long. at least, we are given something interesting to watch every week.

Likewise for the Lens squad, and they will fight by going all out, at least playing at their own headquarters will increase their motivation to win the match against Sevilla on matchday six. Basically, it's not just Sevilla who wants a ticket to the European League if they fail in the Champions League group phase. In the match against Sevilla, they will go all out. Lens only need a draw point, so they will get a ticket to the Europa League playoffs.

Meanwhile, Sevilla only has 2 points. which means, they have to play offensively and come out to calm this match. if the scenario works, Sevilla is in 3rd place. However, if it were the other way around, then Lens would have an opportunity to find a gap when Sevilla was caught off guard in the meeting between these two teams. I am quite sure that the meeting between these two teams will be marked by tough fighting from both sides.
referring to performance, Lens is more consistent, especially in the Domestic League. So, let's see if Sevilla can beat Lens and have the opportunity to take part in the Europa League. Or, this team will sink either in the Champions League or not take part in the Europa League competition. There's still time to find out, let's just wait and besides, there are still other matches that are no less exciting.

As a supporter of the Gunners, I would be happy if my favorite team won this match, even though Wolves were able to reduce their defeat. However, with this result, Arsenal remains in first place for the time being. Regarding the course of the match, Arsenal played quite well and the two goals they scored were thanks to excellent cooperation between their teammates. Unfortunately, Arsenal's defense was sometimes careless and seemed to underestimate their opponents in this match. In the end, Wolves were able to minimize their defeat. However, that doesn't change anything.
In the next match, Arsenal will play away to Luton headquarters. there should be no problems with the match later

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In another match there will be a battle that should be exciting, namely, Newcastle vs Manchester Utd. These two teams are only separated by one point. United is ranked 6th and while Newcastle is below it. and what is certain is that both teams have injured players. automatically, either Ten Hag or Eddie Howe will play the available players. referring to betting odds, bookies favor the home team with @1.93 and United with @3.60. Honestly, Edie Howe's squad should be able to overcome United. but for some reason, I have a feeling that Erik Ten Hag's squad will be able to win the match against Newcastle. I'm curious, so let's wait for the results of this match. and it seems like there's no harm in supporting The Red Devil in this fight.

After getting a draw against Bilbao, Girona won another match against Valencia. previously, I saw at a glance that Girona fell behind in the 56th minute. after that, I ignored it. unexpectedly, Girona was able to reverse the situation into their victory with a score of 2-1 over Valencia. thus, Girona is again 3 points ahead of Real Madrid. It's been week 15, Girona is still able to perform well and maintains its position at the top of the standings. In fact, we predict that this team will experience a special decline after being defeated by Real Madrid. In fact, they still play their matches well even though they have to pay with hard work. There's not much I can say, we'll just follow every match they play.

Soon, Madrid will play their match against Granada. Technically, this match should be easy for Madrid. Moreover, the match was played at the Santiago Bernabeu, Los Blancos' headquarters. three points, is a mandatory result. however, my estimate is that this match will be tough. because the Granada team seems to be playing defensively with a 5-4-1 pattern. We'll see how tough Granada is against Real Madrid. Likewise for Madrid, 3 points is an important result in order to stick closely to Girona who is at the top of the standings. Or, Madrid must win this match with a landslide score. Thus, they will shift Girona's ranking even though they have the same points. so, let's watch.

For me personally, experience is the best teacher. therefore, whatever concept we use or whether it is an idea, it is all the same. Discipline is necessary and very necessary. although initially, I was not suited to the vocabulary of discipline in gambling. but okay, in the end I just followed what we discussed so that it became one frequency and it was easier in terms of discussion. In principle, for me personally, it all depends on how we are and how we anticipate situations like the story in OP's story. btw, I'm pretty sure OP's experience is our experience. which means, we have been or are still often involved in phases like that. and as we all agree, discipline and self-control are the keys.

Well, which we rarely discuss and is known by many gamblers. that emotions also play an important role when we carry out a gambling session. there are various types of emotions, even though they are not visible. the worst, is the emotion of defeat as in OP's case. he tried to repeat and repeat, without any satisfaction in his playing. and one thing I will say, regardless of the points you make in this post. and actually, there's nothing wrong with that. but, actually if we are more aware and concerned about our responsibilities, especially in other things. then, we will not let emotions lead us to keep doing it again and again. one of the most important things, especially for me personally. I am my own master, so I have the power to regulate what I have to do, including gambling. the point is, we can stop, if the game is no longer fun for us. or, stop because there are other responsibilities that we have to complete. But, whatever, everyone has the right to make assumptions in their own way and what you say in this post is no exception.

Darmstadt vs Koln.

This match, according to what I said to the member who posted because of his confusion in betting even though it is actually very likely that @Lafu supports Koln. as I said in the previous post, these two teams do not have significant differences. after all, Darmstadt only won 2 of its 12 matches, while Koln won 1 of its 12 matches.
Today Koln proved they were able to overthrow Darmstadt, even though they were away from home. even though the victory was narrow, it clearly meant a lot to improve their ranking to a safer position.

Honestly, I just tried to research briefly and refer to some of the sources I got. the point is, my estimate is that Koln will win this match. however, to be safer in betting, ideally I recommend the 0:0 handicap option. If the match scenario ends in a draw, we automatically won't lose. however, the fact is that Koln was able to win this match. in fact, 1 goal they scored was canceled. Supposedly, Koln was ahead 0-2. regardless of the reason the goal was canceled by VAR.
Likewise, if we bet on Under, I say there will not be 3 goals in this match. and well, in the end, now both teams have the same 9 points.  The difference is, Koln conceded fewer goals. the point is, Koln won the battle over Darmstadt.

And yeah, just like you. In yesterday's post I said that this match would be won by Al Hilal. It was proven that Al Hilal was able to overthrow Al Nassr. in fact, Al Nassr without scoring a goal in return. 3-0 was the decisive victory for the home team, as well as widening the gap to 7 points. IMO, the Al Nassr goalkeeper should have been more agile, so that he didn't stop taking a step, that way, he could have blocked Sergej Milinkovic-Savic's header. Unfortunately, Al-Aqidi couldn't touch Sergej Savic's header to protect the crossbar. As a result, Al Hilal opened the scoring for them. after that, other goals were scored.

Referring to the course of this match, as I outlined in the previous post. If Al Nassr will dominate ball possession and in fact they control 64%. Al Hilal will try to leave it more free, then counterattack quickly. technically, Al Nassr is superior to Al Hilal. However, tactically, Al Hilal was much better and was able to utilize its strategy well and achieve victory. Likewise with the matter of opportunities, the home team has more opportunities than the opposing team. and what is certain is that Al Hilal now has 7 points from the teams below it. Plus, Mitrovic's two goals reduced the goal difference that Ronaldo had scored with his 15 goals. for now, there is only a difference of 2 goals. If Mitrovic and Al Hilal are consistent, it is not impossible that the competition in scoring goals will also be even more exciting. Basically, I'm happy that Al Hilal won this match. Moreover, this match matches my scenario and predictions.

Regarding Moh Salah, previously one of the Saudi clubs was determined to try to bring in Salah this January. if they fail, they will try again next summer. The last rumor I read, that's what was reported. If we look at what one of the Saudi clubs is offering Liverpool, it is definitely something that will be very interesting and tempt their interest to let him go. apart from that, Liverpool can bring in 1-2 other players with funds from the sale of Salah.

The only problem is, currently Liverpool still really needs Mohamed Salah. Klopp still needs his services with the team, especially now that they are in 3rd place in the Premier League standings. but we'll see, because every decision is in the hands of the Liverpool owner. So, let's just follow developments.

Regarding Mbappe, so far I haven't heard any new rumors about him. Or, indeed, I'm not up to date regarding the latest rumors. It's just that, there is a little that is strange to me between Mbappe and Liverpool. Really, I don't take this rumor too seriously. unless there is an official statement from the club management. My question is whether Liverpool is willing to pay Mbappe's fantastic salary. It's not a matter of being able or not, but whether the owner is willing to allocate a large salary for just one player. As far as I know, Liverpool's owners are really stingy.

It's not just trying anymore, but Manchester City are used to always being at the top of the Premier League standings. So, it is certain that they will try to take over the top of the standings back into their hands. From their two matches in the Premier League competition, City was only able to get one point. And this is not what Pep Guardiola wants as City architect.
The victory over Leipzig in the Champions League group phase should be able to restore their enthusiasm and motivation to get back on track.

However, there is one thing I don't understand about Pep Guardiola. Try to pay attention in every City match, Pep always rotates 1-2 players. Honestly, I don't understand what he is planning. but we'll see, when Manchester City hosts Spurs at the Etihad Stadium, their headquarters. They should be able to overcome this match quite easily. especially now, Spurs are experiencing a decline in their 3 matches without a win. However, Spurs had an interesting record, at the last meeting last season. Spurs were able to beat City even with a narrow score.

We agree, victory in the Matchday 6 match at Signal Iduna Park, Borussia Dortmund's headquarters means everything for PSG. Likewise with the PSG coach, Luis Enrique. will be a high stakes battle for his reputation. at least, according to my personal version. At the very least, PSG must qualify for the round of 16. after that, if they lost against another strong team it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Now, let's try to trace PSG's match ahead of the meeting against Dortmund. where, PSG will host Nantes. This match should not be a big problem for Luis Enrique and his squad. unless Enrique doesn't want to take risks and tries to rotate some of his second tier players. so that the main squad that will compete in the group phase will appear in prime condition.

On the contrary, before Dortmund hosted PSG. they will play 3 quite tough matches, namely, against Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Leipzig. after that, Dortmund will welcome their opposing team at Signal Iduna Park. With these 3 crucial matches, at least Edin Terzic's squad will be quite depleted in their domestic league matches.
Now, we refer to the odds offered by bookmakers. For the time being, PSG is superior with odds @1.86, while Dortmund is @3.90.  Well, actually I don't want to speculate at this time. however, I just want to say that Paris Sain-Germain has a high probability of winning this match. after all, if Dotmund loses, they will still qualify for the next round.

If we talk about Atletico Madrid now, it is the opposite as when they were at the start of last season. Now, Dioge Simeone's squad is able to reach 3rd place in its 13 matches in La Liga. Apart from that, they have 1 match postponed. which means, ATM can increase the points distance from Barcelona if they win their match at the meeting. plus, narrowing the narrow points gap from Real Madrid Madrid if they play the postponed match with a win. thus, the competition for trophies this season is even more exciting with Atletico Madrid sticking closely. It's just that, it won't be that easy for Dioge Simione's squad to penetrate or overthrow Barcelona at Camp Nou on December 4.

In fact, Atletico has a chance to become a tough competitor in the race for the trophy. however, they have to work hard to make it happen. Plus, Atletico must defeat two rivals both home and away. and if I refer to the temporary odds presented by the bookie, Barcelona is still the favorite in the next match. Naturally, Barca will act as the home team. Plus, referring to some of the information I got, it is very likely that Xavi will change his pattern and system. Although it is not certain, this could be an anticipation for Diego Simeone's squad at the next meeting.

Talking about the Barcelona side, they actually have competitive players. unfortunately, the system that Xavi implemented has not worked well. plus, Barcelona was hit by a storm of injuries to its players. however, now several players have returned and I am sure Xavi will prepare his best for the next match. there is no other way, other than waiting for this fight to take place.

Therefore, it is better for us to just enjoy the match moments that will be presented in this group A phase. in fact, we don't know what the outcome will be. and what is certain, Manchester United will play all out to achieve what they hope for. and play as well as possible, based on their abilities in the matchday of the last six group stages of the Champions League. At the very least, the encouragement to play in front of the public itself will provide encouragement and motivation to perform at full performance. win or lose, we will find out soon. as well as, fail or pass.

In the other match, Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, both will play their best to determine their fate towards the next round. If this match ends in a draw, it means that both Copenhagen and Galatasaray only win 1 point. thus, they scored 6 points. and if a miracle comes to Manchester United and they are able to overthrow Bayern, then they will have 7 points. This means that United has the right to accompany Bayern Munich to the next phase. It's important for us to remember, even though the chance is very slim. but in football it is unique. one small mistake, can have fatal consequences for the team as a whole. So, there's no harm in just waiting to see how the matches on matchday six of the Champions League group phase will be. because for me, an exciting battle will be presented in that match.

Ah, this is a slightly complicated match for me to research, especially in such a short time interval. I mean, this match will be held in the next few hours. So, I will try to examine it briefly and simply. In fact, if we examine these two teams based on their rankings and statistics, there are not too striking differences. Darmstadt was only able to win 2 of its 12 matches, while Koln only won 1 of its 12 matches. the rest, there is no significant difference.
To be honest, I didn't really dig into the information about these two teams. but referring to several references I got. It seems that both teams have several players absent due to injury. whether it's an important part or not, I didn't check it. referring to the pattern, these two teams will use an offensive system. There is a possibility that this match will result in 2 more goals from both teams.

Well, if you are confused, you can bet on Under/Over. What is clear is that my estimate is that this match will not produce more than 3 goals. referring to 1×2, there is no obvious difference. Darmstadt with odds @2.65, Sentara Koln @2.50. I will only give advice if you support Koln more, you can bet on the handicap option with a margin of 0:0. If this match ends in a draw, you will not lose the bet. The odds are also quite good at @1.83. for the home team, it is slightly higher. if I refer to betting tips, Koln will win this match. Well, now you just have to decide. If you are still in doubt, it's best to just ignore it.

First of all, congratulations on the hard work you do. and, you get a decent reward for what you do. Honestly, I can't give you the right advice as a fellow gambler. But actually, you don't need to worry because every week there will always be a league that offers football betting opportunities. I'll just say, it all depends on how your wisdom is involved in what you are struggling with within yourself. But, let's just say I'm you. There are some cases where I will keep my winnings.

For example, when the world cup matches are still being held. or, the Champions League for several crucial matches, especially those that I have previously monitored and observed. Apart from that, if nothing else is more interesting. I will take the winnings I get, and leave what I need for other betting sessions. What you need to remember is that not every bet we make will always bear sweet fruit. Moreover, if I refer to your screenshot, you only bet on the top team, where the odds are very low. Remember, not always the stronger team will win the match. Also, not every betting session will be as smooth as we hope and plan.
So, my question to you is, isn't this money more than enough for you to withdraw? If not, it's your right to continue. If so, I will only say one word, good luck in your next bets.

Apparently, you didn't see our initial post. I'm not talking about 1×2 betting, but the handicap option with 0:2 1/2.
I said, at least Liverpool will score 3 goals. and even safer, they have to score one decisive goal and at the same time ensure we are safe in betting by choosing the handicap option.
not much different from the Leverkusen match with a handicap of -1.5, I say there must be a minimum of 2 goals to win. even though in reality, Liverkusen did not play all of its main players.

If we refer to the link you shared, it is clear that the odds are not ideal for us and especially for me. That's why, I prefer mixing variants in betting without having to focus on just 1×2. just look at the odds provided by the bookies with 1×2 which Liverpool only has @1.11 , even that is not ideal. that's why, the best option is a handicap. So, hopefully the misinterpretation you mean can be understood. After all, Liverpool is according to what I predicted and so is Leverkusen.

Well, actually, I don't quite get the essence of the contents of the thread you conveyed, especially the second point. but okay, I will interpret it if you have two habits that you can be responsible for. On the one hand, you are a motorbike enthusiast and on the other hand you are a gambling enthusiast. However, you are still responsible for the two hobbies you enjoy.

Now let's focus on the real point, according to the title of this thread. if I were you, or say I was in your position. The first thing I will ask is, what are the benefits for me if the challenges actually have something in common? Well, so this is the point I mean from the essence of the thread you described. Actually, I don't really understand it and I'm sorry about that. however, if I were given such a challenge. without needing to think at length. Most likely, I will reject it. After all, what should we look for if we are comfortable in our favorite casino? moreover, the challenge offers the same thing. In essence, there is nothing more interesting to make me follow the challenge. So, that's how it is from my point of view.

OK, I'll explain in general. In fact, exercise is a part of our routine in life.  whatever the type, the point is sport. apart from that, sport in our lives is very important. You, I, we, know very well the benefits of exercise, namely for the health of our bodies. So, it is clear that it is not natural that sport has become a part of us as humans. Now, we involve gambling, it would be very natural if there are many people who are more interested in sports gambling. Even if the person or for example you don't like sports physically, that doesn't necessarily mean the gambling that is offered. because, we are very familiar with this type of betting. Actually, I don't have data on which gambling is more popular, but I will refer to myself as an example in this post. despite the fact, each person will have different answers and assumptions.

For me, sport, especially football, is a passion, I am very familiar with the type of sport football. In short, I received sports education in my city. although, I'm not too serious about studying it. Well, and this is related to the last point of your question. for me, luck is another factor in the sport of football. In the modern era of football, it is now more sophisticated than football in the past. Ideally, every team is educated, trained, and also requires discipline, so that they become great, tough, and meet the expectations of a club. However, because this is an industry that generates a lot of money, every team will beef up its squad with talented players. plus, competent trainers. there are systems, patterns, techniques, strategies, and plans. that's why, I say luck in football is another matter. So, in order to achieve the bets we want to win, it is important for you to know that there are many factors and factors that we need to know. The point is, knowledge, insight, science, research and analysis are parts that we always involve in determining bets. additionally, there are many options on offer besides 1×2 betting. in essence, how deep your insight and knowledge is about the sport you like. thus, you will not expect luck. and luck is another factor in our betting. I mean after you carry out the process as just described, the rest you let luck determine the final result.

Before I comment on your thread, I check first whether I have commented before. because, we have discussed threads like the theme of this title before. but apparently, I have never made a post in this thread. first of all, I'm sorry about what happened to you from the gambling you did. In this context, I wouldn't say you are an addict or something. Actually, I don't have the right to do that. however, let's talk from the side of the title of this thread.

as you said, what you experienced could happen to other gamblers, it doesn't even rule out the possibility of myself if I lost my way.  fortunately at this time, I am no longer in your phase. more precisely, in the past.  and hopefully what you say will be a reflection for our members in the community, both old and new members. The point is, I don't want to judge what you have done. However, I appreciate your courage in telling us that this is the impact if we don't have good self-control and involve borrowed money as our medium for gambling. Also, you are wise enough not to blame the casino, whatever the casino. because the point is, you yourself are the real perpetrator.

However, in fact there is a better vocabulary than calling yourself a victim. Let's just say, this is a very valuable lesson. Remember, try as hard as you can without repeating what happened to you. Plus, there's no need to wait two years for your finances to return to normal. I just want to say, you can do something else, which can help speed up or ease the return to the bank. In what way, you can do creative things to get income from other aspects. The point is, don't focus on what you have done.  but, what can change. and finally, thank you for sharing your experience with us. Hopefully, you can find a solution to speed up, ease what you have to complete.

Honestly, here I will say from the side of a neutral fan and without involving factors regarding my favorite team for this competition. For me, it will be a little difficult for Liverpool to win the EPL title. Based on observations and several factors that I involve, there are many things that I consider for the squad managed by Jurgen Klopp. let's change the question, does Liverpool have a chance to win the EPL title this season. yep, they have a chance to. It's just that, there are teams that have a higher probability than Liverpool.

We can refer to all aspects, starting from the depth of the team. plus, second tier players. Another consideration, every team can experience ups and downs. and something like that could happen to Liverpool. in this phase, the impact will affect their performance and experience a decline. However, my estimate is that Liverpool will still be able to finish in the top four of the Premier League. btw, what I said doesn't determine what will actually happen. This is just my personal assumption, based on a neutral point of view.

If we talk about Klopp, this coach is a great coach. That's why the club management or owner continues to keep Klopp with Liverpool. Imagine, he only has a limited budget to spend on players, because we know Liverpool's owners are very stingy. but Klopp still did his best job. and it is proven, currently they are in 3rd place in the standings. But we need to know, there are still 25 matches left for Liverpool, including other teams. Well, it's not an easy matter to remain consistent, especially with Liverpool's tight schedule in the future. To be sure, we just follow every match presented in the Premier League every week.