Hi, I messaged you.
Yeah, and you quoted him an escrow address that supposedly came from me, even though we had never discussed escrow before. Nice try, faggot. Time to throw that account away and create a new one. |
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I wonder who is going to end up getting scammed  |
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Mine finally went through after the 16th confirmation. Looks like they're lagging a bit.
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The thread was deleted shortly after I e-mailed him, and I didn't use PMing (so I didn't remember his username).
But you're right. I should have updated this thread after I received a bogus negative feedback score from him.
Anyway. Cat is out of the bag now. He's tried to scam other people, and currently has a thread open in the currency exchange trying to scam even MORE people.
Ok, and could you be so kind as to provide us a link and a username this time? I'm trying really hard, but I'm failing to read your mind. |
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He returned your coins, no?
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Pic of you with a shoe on your head?
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General rule of thumb is, "If the user name is Jake, you're going to get scammed". With very few exceptions of course.
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I'd advise anybody to avoid taking part of a group buy orchestrated by a brand new user. These have historically resulted in disaster for everybody except for the group buy organizer.
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I'm seeing the same issue, but I thought it was because I only sent with a .0002 Tx fee. What fee did you tack onto your transaction?
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What happened:: A user on the forums posted in currency exchange that he was looking to sell 0.3 BTC for Western Union. He wanted to be contacted via PM or email. I emailed him regarding the transaction. I was initially suspicious (Western Union?), but tried to reassure myself through negotiation. What I found out didn't exactly soothe my concerns.
1: He was selling 0.3 BTC at $192. This is far below the average price.
2: We agreed to use PayPal. I thought this would be better than WU, because at least with this I have a means of resolving a scam. However, the user lives in Israel, and you cannot send a Gift payment to Israel from the USA. The user wanted me to send the funds, open a dispute, close the dispute, and then he would send the funds. This (like WU) would leave me with no way to get my funds back if he pulled a fast one.
3: He was willing to accept half of the payment, send half of the coins, then finish the transaction. He was NOT willing to send half of the coins, receive the full payment, and send the rest. No matter what we negotiated, all outcomes would result in me sending a non-refundable payment to Israel with nothing to show for it but his "word".
4: I told him that it would take later today (negotiations were entered this morning) for me to get to a WU counter. He said that would be fine, and he is "online 24/7". This was a bit suspicious.
5: After driving to the grocery store where I can send a WU wire, I took his personal information (which is....)
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Yarin Groiser
Phone: 0523011189
Hadera, Israel
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6: After receiving his wire information, I filled out the form, withdrew $200 from the ATM, and asked him to send half of the coins. He refused. I explained that this entire situation is extremely sketchy. At one point he told me "I can proof you via teamviewer" regarding his wallet balance (I assume). Another hallmark of a scammer.
7: At the end of it all, he refused to send even a portion of the coins first, but was more than happy to accept a portion of the payment first. To a scammer, getting $10, $20, or $90 for doing nothing but sending emails is all the same - it's a payday. I informed him of my concerns regarding the points I've outlined here, informed him that I would be making a scam accusation on the forums, and wished him the best of luck.
Scammers Profile Link: Unknown - the transaction thread is deleted.Reference Link: This is the link to the now deleted thread. You can google $192 from these forums and see a portion of the OP.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=389954.0Amount Scammed: Attempted to scam me for $192 (or $96, depending on how you look at it)Payment Method: Western Union (Or PayPal after opening and immediately closing a dispute)Proof of Payment: No payment was made.PM/Chat Logs: I can provide the emails sent back and forth.Additional Notes: I don't have much to add. I tried to work with him to get a bit of protection for myself, but to no avail. His English (which wasn't great) remained consistent throughout the correspondence, so I ASSUME that it was just one person I was dealing with. I'm just posting this here so that if a newbie (or anyone) is approached by someone wanting a Western Union transaction to Israel, or if someone is asked to use the "method" of PayPal he suggested, they can be aware of my dealings with this person. All that and you didn't mention his user name? |
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Grats on making 6+ BTC for 3 days of work. With idiots aplenty, who needs ASICs?
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Never. I lost all my Bitcoins and firearms in a boating accident a while back.
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There are several veteran members who will exchange BTC for cash in hand (or mail). You'd be best to deal with them. Hit up EPisKing if you want to deal with someone who has thousands of BTC transactions under his belt, but you have to send first.
OR, you could do business with a user who just registered less than 3 months ago and will be more than willing to buy your BTC for top dollar, and they'll probably want you to send first. Take your pick.
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Yes, be sure to post the TxID of the transactions so that you can show you've successfully repaid a loan. You can add this to your reputation thread, should you wish to create one  |
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Just make sure you're not crossing any lines legally if you're looking at posting contact information of anyone mentioned. It could create complications if there are claims of harassment due to having their info made public (I don't actually know if this will create problems legally but I'd recommend using some caution with how you proceed).
LOL no it won't |
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I have no desire to argue with you. I don't even care to loan, but I like to help people out. If tomato age thinks its a scam then so be it. But I have never scammed anyone. Look my rating...
I'm not saying it's a scam. I'm just recommending that people avoid sending a brand-new user any form of collateral. |
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a. collateral as crypto - if you have alot of bitcoin or an equal amount of an alt coin that you could exchange for bitcoin and a real exchange, then what is the point of coming here and asking for a loan to a bunch of people who are sure everyone is nothing more than a scam artist and wants 10% back? where is the point in asking someone for a loan for something you can already afford? It's the same reason why car title loans and home-equity loans exist. I mean if you needed money, you could always just sell your car or house, right? |
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I was about to jump on this, but I realized your account is older than 7 days. I'm afraid that you're not allowed to make a loan request here unless your account is 7 days or newer.
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