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1481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 25, 2017, 08:08:07 PM
Powerful, but not the MOST powerful - given at least one rig I've seen posted somewhere (VoskCoin perhaps) that had 19 cards on a B250 Mining Pro motherboard working away.

 Thermaltake makes some nice cases - too bad their power supplies tend to be not as good.

1482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Discussion: Eshminer Litecoin Asic Scrypt Miner Wolf V1 2GH on: November 25, 2017, 08:01:10 PM
Which part of "BLATANT SCAM" did you not understand?

1483  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Monero with CPU on: November 25, 2017, 07:59:06 PM

 About the only way I can think of that you could "mine" on a Pentium 4 is to run the Dnet RC5-72 client via the MooWrapper project on BOINC and earn a microscopic amount of GridCoin - but you will NOT earn enough to pay for the electric usage or even close.


I'm a big fan of mining for GridCoins while my notebooks are idle. Even if the coins don't earn much, at least science gets to benefit as well!

 I have only one thing to say about GridCoin.

 MOO!

 9-)



 Actually, that's not entirely true - I do have a few CPUs working YOYO for the time being.
1484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Monero with CPU on: November 25, 2017, 07:58:24 PM
300 hash seems kinda sad for a high-end high-cost CPU like a I7 7700 - I get THAT much out of my much lower cost FX-8320e CPUs....

300-310 to be picky - and that's NOT overclocked at all (not sure if it does the boost clock thing when mining XMR though).
7700k is the best gaming CPU money can buy, at least it used to be before intel released 8700k. Mining is kind of a side job for it, if you already have it in your desktop then why not mine with it when the system isn't used.

 No reason - I'm not saying DON'T do it, I'm just impressed it isn't any BETTER at it.

1485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner on: November 25, 2017, 07:53:35 PM
Yes i use my PC normaly like browsing, wathing youtube, movies etc. maybe i put too much memory or core clock? On Stock it is working fine. ~730 Sol/s. I have 1000W PSU so that is not a problem.
I saw somewhere that they have core clock at stock and 5300 on Memory ( Afterburner ) but i was putting +300 and there is 50 or 60 more that 5300. if i dont find solution i will leave that at stock...  I have Asus Strix OC edition GTX 1080 Ti

 No, it's a Windows thing - I see the same sort of thing on the Aorus in my "gaming" machine - only run it at +100 +100 in Afterburner, 100% TDP - and it drops to about 160 watts as soon as I start up a game OR a web browser or much of anything else EXCEPT mining software.

 Plus side - it's dropping into it's EFFICIENT range when that happens, and not dopping a ton of hashrate.
1486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner on: November 25, 2017, 12:50:38 PM
Are you starting something else up around that point?
Even opening a WEB BROWSER seems to cause what you're seeing in Windows.

1487  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Want a miner to heat my house.. on: November 25, 2017, 12:45:36 PM
Smelling the heat directly from miners would cause cancer or another issue in future.
They are soldering the parts in devices and solder paste is not healthy thing.

I think you will need to heat water and use it in interrior.

 The temps in a miner don't get anywhere NEAR what it would take to melt the solder, much less cause any of it to turn to breathable vapor.

 Your ROOM ON FIRE might not get hot enough.

 It would be nice if you would quit spreading this FUD garbage.
1488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [Cast XMR] high speed XMR/CryptoNight miner for RX Vega GPUs (2 KHash/s) on: November 25, 2017, 12:43:53 PM
is this only for nicehash?

 No - but unlike Stak-XMR it DOES WORK with Nicehash.


Stak works just fine with NiceHash, but I'm using the new integrated version if that matters.

 I tried to get Stak to work with Nicehash - nothing but stratum errors, and as of last week when I was trying to work with it the dev STATED that something in Nicehash stratum was broke (or nonstandard) and he wasn't sure if he was GOING to make Stak work with it.

 No idea what you mean by "new integrated version".

 Stak CPU version works fine with Nicehash, oddly enough - dunno why it would be different for the CPU version and the 2 GPU versions.

1489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Chinese Bitcoin Miners Explore Relocating Abroad Amid Fears of Crackdown on: November 25, 2017, 04:42:24 AM
Canada should be a match on the "stuff taken for no reason doesn't happen much" level with the USA.
Most of Western Europe as well, but then you run into power costs in most of Europe are just bad.

 Thing to keep in mind about Montana - it's either mountains, totally empty flat to gentile rolling, or Billings (and Billings isn't all THAT big a city).
 Most of that state makes the wheatfield plains of Kansas/Nebraska/Colorado look EMPTY.




1490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EthMonitoring \ EthControl (EWBF, Claymore's, CCMiner, AntMiner, Android/iOS) on: November 25, 2017, 04:35:57 AM
I like the layout on that "new version" a lot better.
I'd be inclined to skip the "uptime per machine" and "shares" line though.
1491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Monero with CPU on: November 25, 2017, 04:30:29 AM
300 hash seems kinda sad for a high-end high-cost CPU like a I7 7700 - I get THAT much out of my much lower cost FX-8320e CPUs....

300-310 to be picky - and that's NOT overclocked at all (not sure if it does the boost clock thing when mining XMR though).



1492  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Want a miner to heat my house.. on: November 25, 2017, 04:26:34 AM
A GPU rig might be  decent idea because I'd have to put a desktop in there anyway.. About how many watts can you pull with a GPU rig? I'm thinking 2-4k watts..


 Depends on the rig - a small rig could easily be 500 watts, a multi-PS big rig based on that B250 Pro Mining 19-slot MB in theory COULD hit 4k+ watts running all Vega or GTX 1080ti cards (more with certain older cards).

 All of the rigs I currently build target 6 amp draw (660 watts nominal) so I can put 2 of them on one standard 15 amp circuit (my B250 will probably end up closer to 20 amps/2200 watts but that's using 3 PS spread across 2 circuits).

1493  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Want a miner to heat my house.. on: November 25, 2017, 04:21:55 AM
I don't know why op is expecting to heat the room with the miner.
Instead of that he can buy the room heaters to solve his expectation right! Simply confusing to me.


 Because the miner will MAKE MONEY with that electric usage, not turn it into heat for NO other gain?

 Why is this confusing?

1494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 930~960w on 1000w psu. safe or not? on: November 25, 2017, 04:19:02 AM
Unless it is a server-grade PSU, the 80% "ballpark" figure DOES apply for 24/7 operation.

 It's not a hard and firm LAW, but it's a good idea to stay close to that ballpark for long-term reliability and STABILITY on a 24/7 mining rig.


 Also, non-server power supplies DO have a "thermal derating" curve that often takes some digging to FIND, which is what leads to this rule of thumb.
 Server-grade ones have the same curve - but it generally kicks in at quite a bit higher temp before their rating starts dropping.



1495  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Are 1070 TI's the next best GPU for mining? 4.7 sols per watt on: November 25, 2017, 04:13:46 AM
A well dialed in 1080 can pretty close match a 1070 ti on efficiency - but it's also going to do about the same hashrate when it does so (WELL under 5% difference and commonly 1-2%)
Why? There's ~ 5% difference in the amount of cuda cores between the cards, otherwise they're pretty much identical (if anything GDDR5X consumes a tiny bit less power than GDDR5). Why would 1070 Ti be somehow more efficient than 1080? What would be the reason for "WELL under 5% difference"?

 For ZEC/clones, the GDDR5 vs GDDR5x issue appears to be insignificant. The latency issue does drop effective bandwidth a bit but not enough to be noticeable on most algorithms.

 I was talking about the HASHRATE being less than 5% and commonly 1-2% different when operating the cards at the same TDP/efficiency - which means that the 1080 cores are clocking a little lower since there are MORE OF THEM TO EAT POWER they have less power per core to work with and that puts a hair more of a power limit on their boost vs the 1070 ti.

 The REAL difference though, when operating both cards at their max efficiency range, is the PRICE - far bigger difference than the hashrate difference, so on a hash/$ basis the 1080 loses noticeably even if it can match the 1070 ti on hashrate and efficiency.


 If you can get a 1080 of a comparable model to a 1070 ti version for the same price or less, it makes sense to go with the 1080 - for resale value if NOTHING else.


 If you run the cards at the same TDP, and they are the same model (like Zotac mini versions of each, or EVGA SC, etc) the fans should end up running at the same speed and be the same noise level.


 
1496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [Cast XMR] high speed XMR/CryptoNight miner for RX Vega GPUs (2 KHash/s) on: November 25, 2017, 03:59:43 AM
is this only for nicehash?

 No - but unlike Stak-XMR it DOES WORK with Nicehash.

1497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread. on: November 25, 2017, 03:58:21 AM
Hey everyone... happy Black Friday!

Was wondering if someone could provide some insight that is currently (or recently) mining ETH with RX 400 series GPUs.  I had my 4 6x 470 rigs mostly on cryptonote for the last few months but am now looking to switch back to ETH+DCR.  However, I am still on the 16.10 drivers and know that with those I will only get about 75% of max capacity, so need to update my drivers and possibly other apps.

As far as drivers go, I know AMD published Blockchain drivers that apparently fixed the reduced hashrates but caused other issues with power management etc.  I think these are here:

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-Edition-Beta-for-Blockchain-Compute-Release-Notes.aspx

but this says beta version not to be updated. so, is the best driver to use for 470s currently? or is there a better one out there?

Also, I believe that I am at least 1 version behind on Afterburner. I've read that the newer drivers also require newer AB, so if someone could also elaborate on that it would be appreciated.

Finally, is there anything else that I need to be aware of when updating to a more current driver?  For instance, will watt-tool still work? I use that for my master under-volting settings and manage over-clocking in AB.  Can this still be achieved with the newer drivers?


 The "hashrate reduction" is overstated, though real - more like 10-12% in the testing on real mining I've done in the last week for the RX470 (still almost NO change to my R9 290s though) not 25%.
 It would appear that the "future DAG testing" method has some serious flaw to it that badly overstated the issue.

 The 17.30 blockchain drivers for Windows ONLY work with 10, I've tried to get them to work with 7 on 3 separate occasions now and they just flat out don't work at all even though AMD claims they support 7.
 They are buggy as heck as well even under 10.
 I think I remember seeing somewhere that the latest "standard" drivers also incorporate the "blockchain" fixes, but some mining software looks specifically for the blockchain version (XMR-Stak and Cast for XMR definitely do).

 The LINUX 17.40 blockchain drivers STILL doesn't work with Vega, haven't messed with it for my 470 cards as those are not mining ETH.
 To be fair, it seems that NO Linux driver is working correctly to date with the RX Vega - as usual, AMD cares very  about getting their LINUX drivers working, and that got a TON worse when they decided to go to the "AMD-GPU PRO" garbage.

 Afterburner 4.4 is the most recent version, and DOES work with the blockchain drivers and recent non-blockchain driver versions.

 When you do a driver upgrade, always to a clean uninstall/clean install - and you WILL have to "fix" your settings if you use that wattman junk (iffy in Afterburner, if it's not running when you fix the drivers it MIGHT save your setttings, or it might not).

1498  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's CUDA Zcash miner on: November 25, 2017, 03:44:39 AM
Widespread testing among the FAH community came to the conclusion that 373.06 was the most stable for FAH usage (which indicates it should also be highly stable for mining as both put very heavy loads on a GPU) while maintaining full PPD (FAH version of hashrate).

 There's less agreement about driver version for the cards that have been released since that driver version was released as there's been less time and fewer cards tested to date.

1499  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: DragonMint 16TH/S halongmining.com on: November 24, 2017, 12:54:58 PM
Do keep in mind that ALL of the hardware for the Sony PS4 line comes from someone else.
If they DID make a miner, the chips for it would probably be sourced from AMD....
1500  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: What level of air filtration do u use for your bitcoin miners? on: November 24, 2017, 12:38:16 PM

So, wat level of filtration do u use

 I want to say MIRV 12 - whatever the "orange framed" ones Walmart sells are.

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