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14801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 22, 2016, 03:06:28 AM
the only problem I faced in gambling is, when I gamble, it is very difficult to stop it. I think I've been hooked on gambling. but, I always bet by using a small amount, so I do not feel the loss. In fact, when my money has run out around 40%, I want to stop playing. but, I always felt that I would win, and it made me stop playing.

It is not only your problem but most of the gamblers having the same issue. For that, the best thing is you should load the amount which you can afford to lose for that session then no need to worry much about stopping. You can just gamble without any issues of losing money and can enjoy those games instead every time checking the balance.

I guess it is not right to blame gambling as your own problem. But we are the ones who are giving us our own problem because the way we use gambling is not appropriate. Instead of making it as a source of entertainment we are abusing it too much and we are always setting our goal the way we gamble, like winning big amount.
people actually come to a casino at first time have a purpose to get entertained.

but as time goes by , they feel so good when get profit easily just through a game within a couple hours even minutes. then this gonna be the start of having a lot of problem in gambling , people start crazy to gamble.

That's true, it is the feeling that is making them addicted in gambling if they are already gambling for a longer time. And that is where the problem is starting when they are not able to control it anymore because of two purpose that is making them crave for them to gamble. Both purpose are becoming their source of problem, entertainment and profit.
There's no problem even if you are a long time gambler as long as you are responsible in gambling, you can always think of your future and you will only spend what you can afford to lose. Some even when new in gambling can easily be addicted because they are not doing what needs to comply with the principle, so they have to pay the price.
yes there will be no problems if you are playing gambling in a limit. but if you will increase the limit the you will certainly face so many problems, therefore to me never try to exceed your limit in gambling.

Even they will set up a limit as long as those gamblers doesn't have discipline when they gamble, problems will still going to pop out again and again. Because gambling results are not always constant they may said that they earn good amount for this day but for the next we don't know if we are going to get good profit and what if you have used already your profit for that day? and that's the fund that you will need to use for your daily needs, that's a real problem the.
14802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does the location affect when we gamble? on: December 22, 2016, 02:52:36 AM
I still wondered after watching one dice gambling tips on youtube. she suggested to use a vpn American countries. Do you think the state and affect our current location to gamble? , please give your opinion

It doesn't matter whether you will use vpn or not with your gambling activity that will not have a significance with the outcome of your game. And if the person on that video talks about location and vpn surely that it just avoiding something like country's total ban in online gambling. So you don't have to rely with that tip.

For me it doesn't matter from what location are you when gambling because playing like online casinos can be done with internet access in any locations and you can even use your mobile phones. As long as you are safe in the place where you play online gambling location doesn't matter anyway. Most importantly is your gambling skills and ability to win is the one that matters most not the location.

Yep, that's the most important thing when we gamble. Maybe your location will just be affected if you are covered with a certain law which is putting total ban for online gambling but it doesn't have something to do with your luck and winning.
14803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does the location affect when we gamble? on: December 21, 2016, 04:26:03 AM
I still wondered after watching one dice gambling tips on youtube. she suggested to use a vpn American countries. Do you think the state and affect our current location to gamble? , please give your opinion

It doesn't matter whether you will use vpn or not with your gambling activity that will not have a significance with the outcome of your game. And if the person on that video talks about location and vpn surely that it just avoiding something like country's total ban in online gambling. So you don't have to rely with that tip.
14804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 21, 2016, 04:14:14 AM
the only problem I faced in gambling is, when I gamble, it is very difficult to stop it. I think I've been hooked on gambling. but, I always bet by using a small amount, so I do not feel the loss. In fact, when my money has run out around 40%, I want to stop playing. but, I always felt that I would win, and it made me stop playing.

It is not only your problem but most of the gamblers having the same issue. For that, the best thing is you should load the amount which you can afford to lose for that session then no need to worry much about stopping. You can just gamble without any issues of losing money and can enjoy those games instead every time checking the balance.

I guess it is not right to blame gambling as your own problem. But we are the ones who are giving us our own problem because the way we use gambling is not appropriate. Instead of making it as a source of entertainment we are abusing it too much and we are always setting our goal the way we gamble, like winning big amount.
people actually come to a casino at first time have a purpose to get entertained.

but as time goes by , they feel so good when get profit easily just through a game within a couple hours even minutes. then this gonna be the start of having a lot of problem in gambling , people start crazy to gamble.

That's true, it is the feeling that is making them addicted in gambling if they are already gambling for a longer time. And that is where the problem is starting when they are not able to control it anymore because of two purpose that is making them crave for them to gamble. Both purpose are becoming their source of problem, entertainment and profit.
There's no problem even if you are a long time gambler as long as you are responsible in gambling, you can always think of your future and you will only spend what you can afford to lose. Some even when new in gambling can easily be addicted because they are not doing what needs to comply with the principle, so they have to pay the price.

And that's where the problem is popping out when it comes to responsible gambling. Let's admit that many of the gamblers are not doing it that way. Because of their greediness, that is pulling them into falling for thinking that they will be able to sustain everything they need if they are going to be lucky enough and depend with gambling.
14805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: December 21, 2016, 03:56:54 AM
Just curious since the last discussion I had was about gambling vs trading. I know trading can seem to be a bit of a gamble as well, but I see it a little bit like poker. It's a combination of math and psychology. Maybe not the same ratio though, just generalizing  Tongue
well trading can seem to be a bit of a gamble, but i think it has a big difference like in trade if you lose you can do Cut Loss (CL) and gamble if you lose what you bet will be gone

Trading is far more predictable than gambling is. First of all, you can know where the prices of different things are heading only from news or following important peoples' speeches. These are affecting and manipulating the prices very very easily. Forex is probably the easiest one to predict, especially EUR/USD.
Yes that is right if a person keep knowledge about his assets then he can easily predict the price and future of his assets and will not lose any money in trading while gambling is a high risk place if a person place a bet then he do not know well that what will be the result of that bet.

Trading is a gambling which is more easier to play because you can't do rage bets on it. Each time before you need to buy alt coins, you need to think a lot of times if that coin has the potential to pump soon or your investment will be worth for it. And also if you are patient enough and always has a good timing you will earn great with it.
14806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 21, 2016, 03:40:33 AM
Yeah the worst mistake in gambling for me is not stay away from the board when I was book a big win. And keep playing until I lost all of my money.
I think this is all peoples problem.

Thats right,  that is the common problem of gamblers and it is a problem that must solved. Well it is a hard problem really, especially when you are in the brink of winning and hauling a lot of money. It is really hard to stop putting your money or bets in this situation though  we must control it.

I'm sicked for having that problem either it is really hard to invade that problem. Even though I used to experience that for so many times still I can't able to manage to help myself with it. That's what I'm doing some solutions now like when I able to win some small amount I used to withdraw it immediately and do nothing with it.
14807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 21, 2016, 03:21:52 AM
by playing cautious,do not put all because it can lose,remain cautious because many gambling sites are not fair
I also play gambling has long,almost every day, if im  win then I'm happy Grin
We do not have to think to gamble for longer because for playing longer we will need to put more in gambling and with that we will go to risk more of our money. The safe way is to gamble only for a smaller time and for smaller amount of money.

Its safer but still not safe, gambling is never safe, does not matter on what way you are putting it, its just no safe at all.

There is safeness in gambling and that is playing with nonsense coins and as well as give away alt coins. That is making you safe when you gamble if you just want to keep on gambling and have fun but if you are probably hoping for the profit of course you are not convinced by gambling that way or else you might choose to gamble without any precautions.
The coins you are referring to as nonsense coins has still value on it. Do you think a gambling site will accept those coins even if they don't have any value in it? Of course not, they accept those coins because they know that there is still value in them and they can have profit with it. Also how can playing cautious be safe in gambling? Even if you are cautious it does not determine the outcome or result of the game. Knowing when to stop might be the easiest way to earn money and avoid losses.

Yes there is a site that is accepting nonsense coins, you didn't know about yobit? it has a lot of free coins just claim it and once that coin is already credited to your account. Then you can just simply use it as bet for dicing with them, but that's the only game they are accepting those nonsense coins. It is just like you will enjoy their play money.
14808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 21, 2016, 03:04:58 AM
by playing cautious,do not put all because it can lose,remain cautious because many gambling sites are not fair
I also play gambling has long,almost every day, if im  win then I'm happy Grin
We do not have to think to gamble for longer because for playing longer we will need to put more in gambling and with that we will go to risk more of our money. The safe way is to gamble only for a smaller time and for smaller amount of money.

Its safer but still not safe, gambling is never safe, does not matter on what way you are putting it, its just no safe at all.

There is safeness in gambling and that is playing with nonsense coins and as well as give away alt coins. That is making you safe when you gamble if you just want to keep on gambling and have fun but if you are probably hoping for the profit of course you are not convinced by gambling that way or else you might choose to gamble without any precautions.
14809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: December 21, 2016, 02:54:08 AM
yes, definitely there in this world gambler whose age is under 18 years old, because gambling is a game that can be done by anyone and by anyone. Maybe the age limit is an unwritten rule, only logic that uses unwritten seal the document. children under 18 years old should not gamble, there are still many games that are more worthy than gambling,  Or I could say it was just a waste of money.

That's a fact that gamblers of the new generation are even younger than teenage. There are some who are doing sports betting and they are the one who plays, there is also the newest trend which is the e-sports. And since they are kids and on the teen age, they love to play like Dota 2, CS Go and they are betting against with their opponents.
They are kids so definitely that is not good for them to learn gambling at a young age, if a matured person got addicted then probably kids will be addicted easy, I just hope it will not give them disease and always think of gambling rather than thinking of their studies for better future.

If this can be prevented the better, kids are not suppose to gamble just to enjoy. They can play online game without bet I guess.

Even they are kids that is just normal for them, for here in my place a lot of kids are doing that. And it tends that it is just normal for them as what they can see for older guys like me. What do you mean by disease? Do you mean addiction? Well probably that's going to be their problem when they grow old when they got engaged with it too much.

The problem when kids got addicted from gambling is because they still dont get a regular income and most of them dont have a careful thought too, hence we are afraid that they will do a bad thing to fulfill their addictions like stealing money from other people.
If they will not steal money from anyone then it is still not good for them because they will not know about their bank roll management and will lose all of their money and will not care that what is for his education and what is for his future and will loot all in gambling.
Many bad effect can be get from gambling if they are just a kids.. like you said they can still money from other people or his or her parents .
Just to use the money to use for gambling.. kids should always in school to educate their self. that is why we have a school teachers can teach them them what they want to learn instead of gambling.
Addiction is hard to remove just like my friend before addicted in gambling lose every day nothing they can get in gambling their parents use psychiatrist just to have an advice to help them for addiction and they do what psychitrist. changing hobby for your kids can help you to them to stay away.. that actually they will realize that gambling are made for fun not for making money..
I think if kids from the beginning are prevented from gambling then they will never gamble in their life the parents have to keep a check on the activities of their kids and have to train them on every field of life so that they do not misdirect.

Even they will be guided by their parents but if they are living in a society that has people who manage to gamble. For sure they will be influence by his, classmates, friends, relatives and strangers to gamble. It is really hard to grow a child every single day. And that's the reality about life that even how good you are still you will fail.
14810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 21, 2016, 02:41:22 AM
Lossing 1 BTC may not be devastating for you but it would be for me and for a lot of other people in here that are humble btc holders and work hard everyday trying to get whatever is left to get before we go for 100k per coin and its impossible to make any more entire BTC units. Thing is, I never gamble any more cause it causes too much mental pain to lose for weeks after.

Who losses 1 BTC and not affected at all? He must be supper rich in order to not be affected. I am also part of the people where we work hard to earn Bitcoin. I just sports bet now instead of dice. The mental pain I can handle because I don't give to much emotion in gambling



LOL! Even just losing 0.005 BTC is already a heartbreak for me and how about 1 bitcoin? Those people who are able to lose that amount are totally rich enough. And I guess that is helping them, helping them to spend their money because they don't know how to spend it, instead of drugs they will just allot it with gambling sites.
14811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 21, 2016, 01:58:51 AM
the only problem I faced in gambling is, when I gamble, it is very difficult to stop it. I think I've been hooked on gambling. but, I always bet by using a small amount, so I do not feel the loss. In fact, when my money has run out around 40%, I want to stop playing. but, I always felt that I would win, and it made me stop playing.

It is not only your problem but most of the gamblers having the same issue. For that, the best thing is you should load the amount which you can afford to lose for that session then no need to worry much about stopping. You can just gamble without any issues of losing money and can enjoy those games instead every time checking the balance.

I guess it is not right to blame gambling as your own problem. But we are the ones who are giving us our own problem because the way we use gambling is not appropriate. Instead of making it as a source of entertainment we are abusing it too much and we are always setting our goal the way we gamble, like winning big amount.
people actually come to a casino at first time have a purpose to get entertained.

but as time goes by , they feel so good when get profit easily just through a game within a couple hours even minutes. then this gonna be the start of having a lot of problem in gambling , people start crazy to gamble.

That's true, it is the feeling that is making them addicted in gambling if they are already gambling for a longer time. And that is where the problem is starting when they are not able to control it anymore because of two purpose that is making them crave for them to gamble. Both purpose are becoming their source of problem, entertainment and profit.
14812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: December 21, 2016, 01:29:59 AM
Many people said the gambling is just a game and another people said it is Investment. How do you think?  Roll Eyes

Yes gambling is just a game, but earlier when i started bitcoin. Gambling is my source of income, it's not big but that time my income where steady from $5-$20 a day is Good Enough way back time. So gambling is just a game where you have to invest talent, skills and precision. You just need to limit your greediness on betting. But this is just my opinion. I think other people will have different interpretation to gambling.
You are lucky that you are earning from gambling on daily basis but it is actually a place of entertainment where gamblers come to play for entertainment and for the owners it is a business from where they earn some profit. I think that is the perfect definition of gambling in anyone's mind.
That is a good definition but the chances of earnings are not only for the owners of casinos as the players also earning money on these casinos and there are some people who are earning steadily (they claim on some threads here).

I admire those gamblers who manage to win steadily as them gamble I've been trying to follow some of their threads and make them as inspiration with my gambling career but it seems that I'm always failing and I was always thinking that people who are winning in gambling are just lucky enough and gambling is really for them.
14813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: December 21, 2016, 01:16:57 AM
It all depend on our struggle and our plannings for our life and our sincerity with our life after having these things we can get any thing in our life and can reach to any aim of our life while without these we can get nothing. So we do not have to depend on the sayings of other people like fortune tellers and have to spend our life.

Fortune tellers are just suckers, they tend to say predictions that are not even legitimate. They are just using their saliva's for their living to tell people their lies and give praises to the ones that will pay them. Just don't always rely on luck because even how lucky you are but if you are not working for your own living, then luck is nothing.
14814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 21, 2016, 01:04:23 AM
the only problem I faced in gambling is, when I gamble, it is very difficult to stop it. I think I've been hooked on gambling. but, I always bet by using a small amount, so I do not feel the loss. In fact, when my money has run out around 40%, I want to stop playing. but, I always felt that I would win, and it made me stop playing.

It is not only your problem but most of the gamblers having the same issue. For that, the best thing is you should load the amount which you can afford to lose for that session then no need to worry much about stopping. You can just gamble without any issues of losing money and can enjoy those games instead every time checking the balance.

I guess it is not right to blame gambling as your own problem. But we are the ones who are giving us our own problem because the way we use gambling is not appropriate. Instead of making it as a source of entertainment we are abusing it too much and we are always setting our goal the way we gamble, like winning big amount.
14815  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 21, 2016, 12:55:05 AM
I think gambling is so addicting because you are earning some easy money in just a short period of time while you are playing and you think that you can always get some money through it and also let's not forget some people just want to entertain there self through gambling
I think the tempting characteristic of gambling compel us to play gambling, as it look like to much easy to make good money from gambling in a very very shor time, but still it is one of the most risky way of making money. We must be careful while playing gambling.

Those gamblers that are thinking of being careful as they gamble that is making them more prone in being addicted. Why? Because we really can't be careful in gambling because it is given that every time we gamble there is really a chance that we are going to lose a lot. And once we lose, that will give us the eagerness to recover the lose which is leading us into addiction.
that's became a problem when we are after our loses not realizing that every time we play like this we won't be satisfied with small wins and keep on trying to recover making us prone to lose more and more so better to understand our self and how far we can control our emotion we need to make sure that we are playing just to have some fun and not chasing for a big win to avoid wrecking our life.

We can't blame them if they are playing that way and it is better to think about ourselves just avoid those type of incidents that can make our lives wrecked or else if we are not going to learn from others mistake that make us also addicted in gambling.
14816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Games Are So Much Fun on: December 21, 2016, 12:42:52 AM
yes its so fun and entertainment if you're winning and not losing . but if you're losing so much money i think its not fun. there's a lot of gambling games that actually fun. ive been playing dice games many times this year and i could say im earning profit from it but its not that much. because if you play with high bet amount in dice game im actually betting that you're gonna regret it later.

Of course no one will say that it is so much fun and entertaining to lose  Grin For me when I have spare time I used to play with dice games and I can say that it is really fun because it doesn't really require a lot of skills and knowledge just simply roll any amount you want. But most of the time I'm using my alt coins in dicing and that is making dicing funnier.
yeah having more time to play since alts have more lesser value so the time that we can play will be extend unlike with bitcoin we are always looking for its value so we can't really avoid having some fears to lose if we already betting bigger stakes.

That's why I've been doing that always because I can just simply get free alt coins from yobit and after getting I manage to grow it by dicing. But when I wanted to get the thrill that I've been longing for, I'm doing yoloing also with dice games but just for alt coins. Because I have fear to yolo with my bitcoins, I'm just too scared.
14817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: December 21, 2016, 12:29:27 AM
Just get a good counseling if necessary and cancel the internet connection if necessary then you wont be able to gamble Cheesy how about that idea. If you want to quit something you have to decide.

Counselling isn't necessary when gambling isn't rooted in you, and cancelling your internet connection isn't a good idea. Most of our communication now pass thru that, so cutting it is like getting alone in the four corners of your room. If you are willing to quit, no need to force it, as long as you are aware that you are addicted, you can remove it slowly. But that's right, you need to decide, that's the hardest thing "to begin".

But it seems that gambling is our topic here so I would say that counselling is really needed. Because in case that someone needs help in able to overcome his weakness, counseling is what he need. As long as he will follow what is the counselor will say or else counselling will be worthless and with the cancelling with internet connection that will not help either that will make you even worst.

As I've said, it is not necessary if gambling isn't rooted in you. That means you are still conscious on what is happening to you. Nowadays, DIY is very common, a research and trying it out to your self will work. Also going out and breathing fresh air away from your computer could help you think on what to do and where to start on quitting.

Yes that's also a good way to quit gambling for good you need to relax and maybe an addicted gambler just need to take a fresh air out of stressful computer life. Also travelling and having a vacation is another good idea, maybe you need to have time for yourself and you just need to go out of town and forget all your problems in front of your computer.
14818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: December 20, 2016, 11:31:37 AM
Just get a good counseling if necessary and cancel the internet connection if necessary then you wont be able to gamble Cheesy how about that idea. If you want to quit something you have to decide.

Counselling isn't necessary when gambling isn't rooted in you, and cancelling your internet connection isn't a good idea. Most of our communication now pass thru that, so cutting it is like getting alone in the four corners of your room. If you are willing to quit, no need to force it, as long as you are aware that you are addicted, you can remove it slowly. But that's right, you need to decide, that's the hardest thing "to begin".

But it seems that gambling is our topic here so I would say that counselling is really needed. Because in case that someone needs help in able to overcome his weakness, counseling is what he need. As long as he will follow what is the counselor will say or else counselling will be worthless and with the cancelling with internet connection that will not help either that will make you even worst.
14819  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Games Are So Much Fun on: December 20, 2016, 11:21:04 AM
yes its so fun and entertainment if you're winning and not losing . but if you're losing so much money i think its not fun. there's a lot of gambling games that actually fun. ive been playing dice games many times this year and i could say im earning profit from it but its not that much. because if you play with high bet amount in dice game im actually betting that you're gonna regret it later.

Of course no one will say that it is so much fun and entertaining to lose  Grin For me when I have spare time I used to play with dice games and I can say that it is really fun because it doesn't really require a lot of skills and knowledge just simply roll any amount you want. But most of the time I'm using my alt coins in dicing and that is making dicing funnier.
14820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 20, 2016, 11:09:28 AM
I think gambling is so addicting because you are earning some easy money in just a short period of time while you are playing and you think that you can always get some money through it and also let's not forget some people just want to entertain there self through gambling
I think the tempting characteristic of gambling compel us to play gambling, as it look like to much easy to make good money from gambling in a very very shor time, but still it is one of the most risky way of making money. We must be careful while playing gambling.

Those gamblers that are thinking of being careful as they gamble that is making them more prone in being addicted. Why? Because we really can't be careful in gambling because it is given that every time we gamble there is really a chance that we are going to lose a lot. And once we lose, that will give us the eagerness to recover the lose which is leading us into addiction.
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