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14841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 19, 2016, 01:51:27 AM

Yes they are both risky but gambling has higher risk. But if you are wise enough you will going to have the most profitable way and that is for having investment, so while you are into gambling. Even you are going to lose you have the chance to recover it by means of getting profit from your investment.
Gambling is a shortcut in dreaming of success, only few will succeed with this kind of intentions. You can only succeed when you are extremely lucky and you win big amount one time, while investing, you are taking care of your investment and if you have good patience you will definitely grow your investment as what other successful people have experience.

It can be for other people but with my stand better to be safe rather than to believe with a false belief that gambling is shortcut to success. There might be scenarios that it can was proved by people who won big amount in lottery. But still it is better to get your own source in a strong source, which is investment while you are into gambling.
but it think it is true for those people who have good experience in gambling, although gambling is a game of luck but still there are so many types of gambling where your experience and your skill also work.

Yes it can be for those who have good experience in gambling but it is always better to have your decent way of getting profit if you are aiming for your way to become a successful person. And that is with proper money managing and investing into the right ones that fits you, since investing is already gambling your money but it has lesser risk that the real gambling.
14842  Economy / Economics / Re: Spending Bitcoins on: December 19, 2016, 01:29:02 AM
I want to use bitcoin to pay my tuition but there's no option and there's a lot of choices to make and to spend with my bitcoin still waiting till bitcoin will be recognize on all companies so I can use it . I want to order something on a online shop which is lazada but there's no option for bitcoin payment so the one that I do Is cashing out my money then cashondeliver but its to hassle I want to order directly and pay with my bitcoin. but theres no option hoping one day I could use it on everyday life.

Here in my country you can do that, because the local exchange here in my country are connected with banks and as well as reputable universities. I want to do the same to pay my brother's tuition fee but it is only applicable to those reputable universities since my brother isn't studying there for he is just on a state college, I'm not able to avail that service.
14843  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: December 19, 2016, 01:07:37 AM
Without a doubt my friend, because in fact it would be an optimistic signal that it is possible to carry out  transactions in this coin without risks of facing excessive volatility that could generate sudden losses to the businesses interested in adopting the bitcoin. And this massive acceptation of the btc would prompt more people to approach the bitcoin ecosystem.

Have you tried to imagine if bitcoin has stable price the same as fiat people will use it? I guess no, people are going to remain using with fiat because they have just the same value and with bitcoin, it makes just like a fiat that has been digitized. But because of bitcoins stability that is making its investors to be attracted, not with its stable price.
14844  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin be used for Good? on: December 19, 2016, 12:42:35 AM
When bitcoin was launched it was mainly used for illegal activities but then it got adopted by the common people and has been used for legal things since then. Bitcoin is a currency and like any currency it can be used for bad things but bitcoin has been used for many good things too like funding charities, bitcoin has made many startups possible helping many people. So, yes bitcoin can and will be used for Good.

I don't think that Satoshi is mainly aiming for bitcoins usage for illegal things, he just want to build something that is good for all of us and just because it has a good way to transact with its anonymity those people who are involved for illegal activities sees its potential. And let's just not be like them who are using bitcoin for bad things.
14845  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: December 19, 2016, 12:26:38 AM
i guess theres no reason for bitcoin to disappear we all know that bitcoin are keeps growing this past few months now it gonna hit the $800 if that will be the stable price of the bitcoin it will be good. hoping that this coming christmas could hit and be stable on $800 and say to those who dont believe in bitcoin that bitcoin will never die you will die but bitcoin will never be. haha

As of 02:25 PM forum's time the price of bitcoin is now $784.6 only few more bucks needed to make it stable at $800. And those people who are saying that bitcoin is dead are probably jealous on what is happening with bitcoin. I can just shoutout to them that bitcoin is dead, yeah it is deadly increasing the price of bitcoin rapidly.

Yes these people are trying to encourage us not to pursue investing in bitcoins.. and probably they don't have a good experience investing their bitcoins and right now the price is getting better so I think the price would probably won't crash in the future.

It might be two reasons why they are doing that, first is what you have said and next is that they are hating the competition with bitcoin. But whatever will be their purpose they don't have choice but to accept the fact that bitcoin is now being recognized by many investors and people who are optimistic with the idea of crypto currency.
14846  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: December 18, 2016, 02:28:17 PM
i guess theres no reason for bitcoin to disappear we all know that bitcoin are keeps growing this past few months now it gonna hit the $800 if that will be the stable price of the bitcoin it will be good. hoping that this coming christmas could hit and be stable on $800 and say to those who dont believe in bitcoin that bitcoin will never die you will die but bitcoin will never be. haha

As of 02:25 PM forum's time the price of bitcoin is now $784.6 only few more bucks needed to make it stable at $800. And those people who are saying that bitcoin is dead are probably jealous on what is happening with bitcoin. I can just shoutout to them that bitcoin is dead, yeah it is deadly increasing the price of bitcoin rapidly.
14847  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: December 18, 2016, 02:13:20 PM
If the network remains stable and decentralized over the years, Bitcoin will certainly be a successful currency and will attract a large number of people who use banking systems, but I think that in the early stages these people will use both systems at the same time, as the Bitcoin ecosystem still does not provide all the resources for people to use it as the only platform.

Of course we are always wanting to be on the safe zone and by just simply using both systems of bitcoin and banks that is making us wise doing that. Since bitcoin will not make the banks disappear still we are going to stick with both of it whether they will have their own competition, still the consumers will always have the favor.
14848  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: December 18, 2016, 01:53:57 PM
i am prefer and feel comfort to holdings of btc because i can handle and manage my bitcoin in my wallet, beside that i can use for my own purpose. but if i have much of money, then i will holdings of gold as we know, the gold price is stable and its a good investment for us. so for now, i will choose holdings of btc as i only have btc.
thats a good choice right there i would prefer to hold gold too if i have a lot of money because we all know that bitcoin is not stable as we are expecting compare to gold . gold is more stable than bitcoin and gold price also growing year by year. right now im saving all my bitcoin so i can invest it to gold too so ican make more profitable in that way.

I don't have choice either but to hold bitcoins, no one doesn't like gold but all of us are wanting to have it. But since there is an alternative type of gold investments, we can just simply use the new world's gold and that is digitized and being called bitcoin.

I hold 3% of my net worth in gold and about 2% in silver. About 50% in btc at this moment and the rest in the bank and real estate, stocks ect.

Good thing that you have those type of investments and that is securing that you will get decent profit in the right time.
14849  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: December 18, 2016, 01:35:40 PM
If you were in desperate need for money / Bitcoins, what would you do? How to get it, earn it, whatw are your solutions and experiences? I wonder what people are ready to do when money is the problem.

I am wondering also why you were asking these things? For me, I would be patiently join signature campaigns and part of it would go to trading that's it. I won't beg for any bitcoin to anyone, i'd rather have my own bitcoin thru my own work, in months I know I could have it.
With the amount you will earn with bitcoin in signature campaign, it's certainly not enough to spend in times of desperate need. Be realistic so you'll be able to take good actions, how about looking for a stable job and whatever you earn online will be only considered as your side job.

You are hoping to get good profit in investing through trading out of your signature campaign profit? What's the use of the word desperate in need for money, if you are in a situation like yours. It seems that you are outing yourself for being desperate in need of money. Because you are hoping that you will get profit for months, not instant.
14850  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: December 18, 2016, 01:22:20 PM
Does it make sense to believe that Bitcoin could one day be replaced by another cryptocurrency, that is, a cryptocurrency that really does make Bitcoin obsolete?

I don't think so but who knows. Anyway ethereum - according to the guys who understand better these things - is a better crypto than bitcoin but here we are. Its value is far away from the value of bitcoin. And for more is in strong deprecation since the story of DAO.

I don't think that ETh will do even though it is on the second on the crypto that has big market cap. But I don't really think that bitcoin will ever be replaced by another crypto currency and I'm considering more that it will be replaced by digitized local currency that is inspired because of Satoshi's creation of bitcoin.
14851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: December 18, 2016, 12:53:37 PM
Gambling is poverty, illness, cancer, crime, time-consuming in my mind. I know gambling is bad but i can not stop getting addicted to it. It have stolen many bitcoins from me but I always think that i can win back those amount Sad poor me
Stop gambling, no matter what it takes, stop it right now because gambling right now is not only separating you from your money, it seems I also causing you to have a bleak outlook in life, and that is even worst than losing your money.

What a terrible description of gambling in your mind and you should stop already if you are keep on gambling with that mindset and it seems that gambling is not contributing good to your life. Because imo, gambling is a way to relieve our stress and gives us enjoyment for our money to spent, especially those people who doesn't have time to go outside for their leisure.
His definition is purely base on his experience and that's all negative, it does not apply to everyone because I still believe that there are still more people who are enjoying gambling and they are treating it as an entertainment which resulted to not losing their money like the others who are irresponsible in gambling.

That's what I believe also in gambling but because of people that are abusing the way of gambling's giving us entertainment. Then they are experiencing that kind of devastation with gambling. As long as we are ready to lose our money and we are just aiming to have some fun with gambling then you are going to be fine.
14852  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: December 18, 2016, 12:39:12 PM
yes, definitely there in this world gambler whose age is under 18 years old, because gambling is a game that can be done by anyone and by anyone. Maybe the age limit is an unwritten rule, only logic that uses unwritten seal the document. children under 18 years old should not gamble, there are still many games that are more worthy than gambling,  Or I could say it was just a waste of money.

That's a fact that gamblers of the new generation are even younger than teenage. There are some who are doing sports betting and they are the one who plays, there is also the newest trend which is the e-sports. And since they are kids and on the teen age, they love to play like Dota 2, CS Go and they are betting against with their opponents.
They are kids so definitely that is not good for them to learn gambling at a young age, if a matured person got addicted then probably kids will be addicted easy, I just hope it will not give them disease and always think of gambling rather than thinking of their studies for better future.

If this can be prevented the better, kids are not suppose to gamble just to enjoy. They can play online game without bet I guess.

Even they are kids that is just normal for them, for here in my place a lot of kids are doing that. And it tends that it is just normal for them as what they can see for older guys like me. What do you mean by disease? Do you mean addiction? Well probably that's going to be their problem when they grow old when they got engaged with it too much.
14853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is GAMBLING? on: December 18, 2016, 12:30:32 PM
Well, all this time, I just looked at gambling as a lucrative game, because gambling is a game of luck bet on it. I never saw it as an investment or as a business. you do in gaming is trying to win in order to earn more money, such as trying to get a score when playing the game. well, it was very pleasant.
I can say you are thinking straight dude, it is not an investment as per definition as your purpose is just for entertainment, you aim to win but it's different when you really aim to earn when profit is expected to have. In gambling, it's difficult to achieve that as sometimes our luck is not with us while we are frustrated because of possible big loses that are already accumulated.

Gambling is also a good business if you have a bigger bankroll or you have big savings, you can provide entertainment to the people who are too much addicted in gambling. And that's why there are a lot of owners who are earning big money with gambling. So, that's their own definition for gambling, it is simple as business.
It's definitely a good business if you have a decent amount of capital, it's better than other type of investment as it's lucrative, the fact that gambling sites win all the time and you win in the long run, it is possible to grow your profit easily and you have the edge so that makes you confident your business will continue to operate and profitable.

And it seems that there is no casino that hasn't earned great profit in the industry. But I'm a bit curious with them if there are cases that make their gambling business fell down or else no one will say that gambling fell their business. And as it is one of the biggest industry in the world even in the bitcoin economy, no doubt that this is lucrative.
14854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 18, 2016, 12:17:52 PM

Yes they are both risky but gambling has higher risk. But if you are wise enough you will going to have the most profitable way and that is for having investment, so while you are into gambling. Even you are going to lose you have the chance to recover it by means of getting profit from your investment.
Gambling is a shortcut in dreaming of success, only few will succeed with this kind of intentions. You can only succeed when you are extremely lucky and you win big amount one time, while investing, you are taking care of your investment and if you have good patience you will definitely grow your investment as what other successful people have experience.

It can be for other people but with my stand better to be safe rather than to believe with a false belief that gambling is shortcut to success. There might be scenarios that it can was proved by people who won big amount in lottery. But still it is better to get your own source in a strong source, which is investment while you are into gambling.
14855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 18, 2016, 12:06:43 PM
Bulls are bullshit today, they have no balls and they can't win against the Bucks at home. it's there chance to get revenge but unfortunately it's the same outcome yesterday, they are fully dominated by the Bucks. Seriously, they need defense and offense to click together, poor bulls only shooting 30% at home. Maybe it's time to change the coach, what do you think guys?
Well its the coaching team should adjust if the players is not working or playing well i think its time for them to check the game play and why those stars are not in good shape, its really dissapointing thinking that they can win at home but he outcome went to the other side luckily wizard wins and cover my small loss for chicago so good betting in live games.
I can't believe with the star players in Chicago they cannot beat the bucks, they beaten good teams like the Spurs but this one, it's two in a row. Clearly, there's a problem within the system and they need to reunite, it's too early to tell but they need to mature more for them to reach the playoffs and possibly to match up against Lebron.

That is because of their team chemistry, they are not truly reunited when they play. The players are like playing for their own and for the team and that is what lacking them and the bucks beat them with their weakness. Bucks has team chemistry that lead them to win against Chicago Bulls. I hope also that they will figure this out.
A game is a game, when you lose in the game you have to accept it. Bulls can still bounce back, their next game is against the Pistons who are also struggling on the road, they have to make sure they can win this one to get the trust of the fans back. Playing at home and losing twice would not make the fans happy, an effort is required and play it like in the playoffs.
For sure if they lose it again inside their homegrounds fans will be very dissapointed as we knew pistons is also doing the same they have strong line up but the chemistry are not fitting the players, bulls coach needed to adjust and balance the players inside if they are playing individually they should not be inside together coach should decide to have some defensive man to make good defense while individual player will dominate the scoring aspect.
Always like that chicago bulls that are always difficult to predict sometimes when they lose when face an easy opponent  and they are even less when facing an opponent that is relatively more robust they can win.

We should not underestimate teams for this season, just like what bajing said, it is always to hard to predict games. This is not just happening with bulls because it almost applicable to all teams. We may not that they are stronger when their opponent is strong too and teams are getting weaker when their opponent is weak.
14856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: December 17, 2016, 09:06:35 AM
once you played gamble there's no easy way to stop all you gonna do to stop was to have a goal while playing example you lose enough money so stop before you lose all your money. and if you already doubled your bankroll its good if you're gonna cashit out than to play again because you may lose your winnings if you dont do that.remember playing in along term could lead you to losing.

No, there's an easy way to stop and that is making all your bankroll lose. You to experience that in able to appreciate how many is truly valuable and that's always a lesson learned for you if you will be in that situation. Since you don't have money anymore for gambling, then you know now that you are not capable to gamble because of having no balance.
14857  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: December 17, 2016, 08:54:07 AM
No one can tell when your luck has come. It's the universe that says that and our God. He knows what will happen and what we will do in the future. Luck is just by chance also, just believe that you will win, and you will. Just try and try until you succeed.

That's why it is called luck as we don't know where it is to come. And with God, that is not the right term to know our luck but it is our fate who is the author of it and we are making it to happen by our own acts. That's the spirit that we should have a positive input always as we gamble so that we are going to have positive outcome.
The point is, luck does not only happen in gambling. Luck can also be use in a more productive activities in life, like investing in a certain business, and that's what I like actually than other ways or in gambling. I feel, if I have luck in a business I can continue it as I can apply my passion at the same time for my investment to be successful.

Surely that is more productive to be lucky with investments rather than with gambling. If you think that you have luck in business then just pursue it and for sure you are going to feel sorry about it. Just wait for your luck to come and feel it by yourself and you are doing it with your way as luck is going to be with your passion.
14858  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: December 17, 2016, 08:03:15 AM
If it were to be days back, I would have gone with the anonymous characteristics, but now I dont know if that will still hold for long following the current happenings in the crypto-world. Aside that, the next best thing I love about Bitcoin is the ability to transfer, earn and pay for services across the world with ease. Without having to go to the bank, low amount of transaction fees, and fast completion of transaction.

This is what I'm amaze with bitcoin too, because that is making our remittances easier, faster and cheaper. And I'm loving that because I have a lot of relatives abroad and once I need money I'm asking them if they can send me some money but sometimes they are kinda regretting because of the high remittance fees, so bitcoin is good as alternative.
14859  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 17, 2016, 06:56:24 AM
Bulls are bullshit today, they have no balls and they can't win against the Bucks at home. it's there chance to get revenge but unfortunately it's the same outcome yesterday, they are fully dominated by the Bucks. Seriously, they need defense and offense to click together, poor bulls only shooting 30% at home. Maybe it's time to change the coach, what do you think guys?
Well its the coaching team should adjust if the players is not working or playing well i think its time for them to check the game play and why those stars are not in good shape, its really dissapointing thinking that they can win at home but he outcome went to the other side luckily wizard wins and cover my small loss for chicago so good betting in live games.
I can't believe with the star players in Chicago they cannot beat the bucks, they beaten good teams like the Spurs but this one, it's two in a row. Clearly, there's a problem within the system and they need to reunite, it's too early to tell but they need to mature more for them to reach the playoffs and possibly to match up against Lebron.

That is because of their team chemistry, they are not truly reunited when they play. The players are like playing for their own and for the team and that is what lacking them and the bucks beat them with their weakness. Bucks has team chemistry that lead them to win against Chicago Bulls. I hope also that they will figure this out.
14860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 17, 2016, 06:44:44 AM
I think investing is more risky than gambling because most of investing websites are just scam, but in gambling you have better chances to make your bitcoin grow. How about you guys what do you think?
That is depending on what kind of investments you put to make money for sure that scam sites is Ponzi schemes /sites you make money and roi in just days without doing anything just deposit it is clearly a scam.Investing is a big word which have many different meanings and application and you should be careful aboit those every investments .not all investments are scam and gambling is not an investment to make money it is intended and built for amousement.

For me, gambling is more risky than investing. Maybe you just landed to the wrong types of investment platform. There are a lot of it all over the web and no doubt that is making the whole investment industry to become shady because of them, but still there are a lot of legit investments too. YOu just need to do proper research and learn the sites background.

Both have their own risk since we cannot knew that we will earn on our investments or retain back our capital on those two programs mentioned, but the thing i know is much better if you gamble/invest what you can afford to lose since online profit hunting is no assurance at all, and we cannot earn from it if we don't risk, thats why its better for us to stop if we think we cant afford to lose or if we got doubts on those programs.

Yes they are both risky but gambling has higher risk. But if you are wise enough you will going to have the most profitable way and that is for having investment, so while you are into gambling. Even you are going to lose you have the chance to recover it by means of getting profit from your investment.
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