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14881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: July 31, 2018, 09:11:09 PM
Of course Bitcoin will win. But creating forks are required to determine the winner Grin

Nicely put. You are right, forks are also needed to show how defective one coin might be over the other Smiley
14882  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Is it a blatant scam? on: July 31, 2018, 08:59:31 PM
Well he isn't hiding or anything
https://twitter.com/deannolan/status/1013008108078223360
Currently building a prototype for a decentralised #crypto exchange using atomic swaps with no extra token or coin involved.



With him having kept 30 million Betking tokens on which the holder can claim a share of the 'profits' as well as the millions that he has in crypto from the ICO he can afford to pay to have an exchange coded for him.
14883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Bitmora Exchange: What Happened To The Project? on: July 31, 2018, 08:43:58 PM
A lot of people want to know why Bitmora have kept telling people on their Telegram for the past 2 months that the Beta is a couple of weeks away.

In the past 2 months since the Beta website was supposed to be launched they could have easily made one from scratch yet they keep telling people on their Telegram that the site will launch in a couple of weeks and then bounties will be paid.

Today is 31st July 2018 but the last time Bitmora admin shopwed up on their Telegram was 27th July 2018 with this post:

"Unfortunately not much news has come out since then, because of funding we had to let a developer go, but now the rest are covered and won’t loose any more devs."

So what is going on with Bitmora?

With 200 Exchanges out there was there a need for another one?

What sort of developers are they working with that cannot either make an exchange from scratch in over 60 days since they were hired or fix security holes in the existing one? All this when the devs were supposed to be working around the clock.... something is not right.

What is the real deal with Bitmora? What is really going on?

14884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: July 31, 2018, 08:32:10 PM
honestly I prefer to have bitcoin rather than bitcoin cash because I think when you have bitcoin you can play altcoin which can suport payment using bitcoin and for now bitcoin cash can not be used to buy altcoin which means can not grow assets with bitcoin cash. just imagine if bitcoin cash suddenly collapsed and not worth what will you do? it is better to avoid the risks.

I understand your views and agree with them. Bitcoin is king and Bitcoin Cash is not even prince because that accolade is being fought for between Ethereum and Ripple.
14885  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io What Is Really Going on? on: July 31, 2018, 08:30:50 PM
Almost nothing as no one wants to buy it.  If people wanted it then there would be a value but as you can see the demand is so low that it's about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

HitBTC charges a disgusting 331 BKB fee to withdraw from what I remember. I wanted to buy some a few months ago, but opted not to due to the fee.

Why would Dean Nolan want to list Betking there on HitBTC then? Another piece of classic mismanagment from him.

Because, more exchanges is better, it's probably easy to list, it's not a bad option for whales, and I doubt HitBTC specifically stated that the withdraw fee for your token is X

Well since he still has millions in crypto from the ICO he should pay to add it to a few more exchanges if he believes in the project.
14886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Minexcoin - A new era of payments on: July 31, 2018, 08:27:05 PM
MNX is now live in HitBTC

you can start deposit and trade

https://hitbtc.com/exchange/MNX-to-BTC
What a great news, but price is still falling. Maybe Minex holders are afraid about the future with crypto cards.
Hope that soon everything will be more clear.
Great News Smiley

It helped make the right noises when it was traded on EXMO and now will do the same on HitBTC. Congratulations.
14887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Main] Bitcore- BTX - Are you ready for the future? on: July 31, 2018, 08:20:45 PM
why the obsession with the color PINK?

If you idiots were to rebrand, BTX would be a more serious contender.

Right now, it looks like something that came out of a unicorn's ass.....

 Roll Eyes
I do not understand your statement! How can color affect the success of the project? On the contrary, the pink color is something new and fresh. I have not yet seen pink crypto projects. Whether it is of a rainbow color, if the project is good, then it will be of interest to investors.

Bitcore is an interesting business, it will start to grow soon because it is a solid project.
14888  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io What Is Really Going on? on: July 31, 2018, 08:19:11 PM
Almost nothing as no one wants to buy it.  If people wanted it then there would be a value but as you can see the demand is so low that it's about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

HitBTC charges a disgusting 331 BKB fee to withdraw from what I remember. I wanted to buy some a few months ago, but opted not to due to the fee.

Why would Dean Nolan want to list Betking there on HitBTC then? Another piece of classic mismanagment from him.
14889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: July 31, 2018, 08:15:26 PM
I bought BTC a few months ago so I don’t have Bitcoin Cash. I think Bitcoin is better investment and I believe it will be a market leader all the time)

Bitcoin Cash has small functions right now but Bitcoin Cash will become useless when Bitcoin starts using lightening protocol.
14890  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Is it a blatant scam? on: July 31, 2018, 06:44:45 PM
Again, I must ask, why does this game-protect fella have such a keen interest in defending Dean Nolan?
You are beginning to sound like his lawyer, or someone who profits from his business.
The cards and facts remain stacked against Mr. Nolan; who is handling this situation so poorly by running and hiding.

Well it seems Dean Nolan is busy building an exchange no doubt from funds he got in the Betking ICO  Roll Eyes
14891  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Is it a blatant scam? on: July 31, 2018, 06:42:07 PM
Deal Nolan is still asking for investors to buy his Betking Tokens: https://betking.io/invest

Has he no shame? The following is from his Betking website:

The token value is calculated as:

I + (P /100,000,000)

Where I is the initial token price after the IC0, $0.09286 and P is the total site profit from all games and currencies at the current exchange rate in $.

For example, if the site profit was 100 Bitcoin and the current price of Bitcoin was $8000 then the BKB price would be:

$0.09286 + ((100*8000) / 100,000,000) = $0.10086


What a load of rubbish. Of the 100 million Betking tokens created how many did Dean Nolan keep for himself?

Of the 100 million Betking tokens, 70 million were supposed to be distributed for ICO investors and Dean Nolan has kept 30 million yet is selling more?

https://betking.io/ico:
"70 million will be available for sale to crowdsale participants.
30 million will be retained by BetKing for ICO bounties, testing bounties, advisors, hiring, future marketing and development."


Let us look at the example Dean Nolan has provided on his website and change the figures a little bit:

For example, as of today 31st July 2018 Betking Tokens are unsold and unwanted on HitBTC at 0.000007 BTC but let us continue with the example. If the site profit was 85 Bitcoin (which is correct as of today: https://betking.io/stats) and the current price of Bitcoin was $7577 (which is correct of today) then the BKB price would be:

$0.09286 + ((85*7577) / 70,000,000)  = $0.1021 -  not including the 30 million Betking Tokens that Dean Nolan did not release to the public
$0.09286 + ((85*7577) / 100,000,000) = $0.0993 - including the 30 million Betking Tokens that Dean Nolan did not release to the public

Why is Dean Nolan making a profit for himself on the 30 million Betking Tokens that were not released to the public? $0.0028 profit per token as per todays rates are going towards the 30 million tokens Dean Nolan has not released to the public. That shows $84,000 at the moment for the exact calculation is 30 million Betking Tokens x $0.0993 = $2,979,000 for his own pocket.

For investors it means 70 million Betking Tokens x $0.0993 = $6,951,000 for investors who can only sell back 10% of their holdings in the buy-back meaning anybody wanting to sell MUST keep hold of 90% their tokens at any given time because they cannot sell them on HitBTC because they are virtually useless and worthless. they have to wait for Dean Nolan to implement his buy-back. this ties investors in for many, many years.

Why did the ICO go ahead and why did he propose it going ahead with Betking Tokens as the currency in US$?

Payout in Bitcoin, Ethereum or Litecoin (the 3 crypto used in the ICO) would have been appropriate. At least if investors received in profit instead of US$ they might have a better chance to get some funds back.

The ICO investors got duped. I feel so sorry for them. Dean Nolan is the only winner in this pathetic charade called Betking Sad

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2150057.msg25690641#msg25690641


14892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: July 31, 2018, 05:23:41 PM
BCH currently exceeds BTC, but it does not mean that BTC will never exceed BTC. If BTC is in crisis, BCH will probably surpass it.

How did you come to that conclusion? Bitcoin Cash never has come anywhere near Bitcoin. Elaborate.

14893  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io Is it a blatant scam? on: July 31, 2018, 05:21:07 PM
As of today 31st July 2018, the value of the ICO crypto:

BTC - 1,046  @ $7,804 each =  $8,162,984  
ETH - 4619   @ $434   each =   $2,004,646  
LTC - 856     @ $78     each =   $66,768


Dean Nolan seems to have hit the jackpot himself at Betking.io by getting investors to "invest crypto for betking tokens" when the tokens are virtually worthless and useless.

I feel sorry for the investors who got duped in to putting money in to failed website such as Betking.io and falling for the pathetic dream selling techniques of Dean Nolan who made millions from this ICO.

A very clever man is that Dean Nolan
14894  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io What Is Really Going on? on: July 31, 2018, 04:40:53 PM
A user called ETTKS posted this in the now locked Betking thread:

"You guys are missing the incredibly obvious.

At the time of the ICO, the amount of crypto raised is priced in USD and the token is valued in USD. However by Dean's own admission he holds the crypto and never sold for USD. This means if the value of the crypto goes up (like it has) Dean personally gets free money. But if the value of the crypto went down, Dean can just fold betking up or even just say it can't afford to do buy backs. Which is true.


So the whole betking ICO was just a way for Dean to expose himself to profit if crypto went up, and expose himself to nothing if it went down. This is why he has no real reason to work on the site, it was never about it.

But being blunt, it's completely investors fault for buying into it. The terms were straight forward and obvious. They bought into the ICO mania, and will need to pay for it. "


The Betking thread was closed by Dean Nolan because he was being questioned about exactly how much money he made from the ICO and why he has never made it public how the funds were spent and how much remain. As the user ETTKS stated if the value of crypto goes up Dean Nolan gets free money. Just to be clear even if it goes down he will still have the ICO received crypto at his disposal.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2150057.msg42880775#msg42880775
14895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: July 31, 2018, 04:13:38 PM
The majority of the investors don’t even know what bitcoin is much less how it works. Scalability and core team mean nothing to them, they just want lambos like everyone else.

(I’m not arguing just to argue. Bitcoin is broken as it stands, I just don’t see a clear path to replacing it with something else when you have so much institutional money flowing in right now). Do any exchanges offer bch trading pairs yet?

The things we care about from a technical perspective like decentralization, scalability, infrastructure don’t matter to your average joe that just wants to make a buck from crypto. We have to have a more compelling message. How is bitcoin cash any different than litecoin for example?

When lightening protocol is implemented Bitcoin will go further ahead in success than other cryptos
14896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash on: July 31, 2018, 03:33:23 PM
Can you please elaborate on precisely why it should be a worthy number two?

Please read the whitepaper and study Page 10 of the whitepaper which has a comparison graph showing Bitcore alongside Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin Gold then please share your opinion on what you think of this coin. In my opinion (based on the whole whitepaper) this coin is the best Bitcoin fork. Sorry I will not elaborate further but my opinion is based on the whitepaper and development team behind Bitcore.

14897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Main] Bitcore- BTX - Are you ready for the future? on: July 31, 2018, 03:18:06 PM
Bitcore will soon replace Bitcoin Cash as a second key coin to Bitcoin

thats a very bold claim to lay in
even though bcash is useless, but coming back from #214 rank will be so much harder than changing the idea about eos  Cheesy Cheesy

but we still hope that bitcore comes back among top coins

Yes we can live in hope. Bitcore with its devs and team deserve to be higher ranked by market capital. I hope they be will soon Smiley
14898  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetKing.io What Is Really Going on? on: July 31, 2018, 03:05:01 PM

Now the investors have been ripped off while Dean Nolan is in possession of the September 2017 ICO funds:

BTC - 1,046
ETH - 4619
LTC - 856


Holy balls that's almost £8million. Didn't realise that much was being discussed, that's a lot for a simple casino plugin.

Just 3 months after the September 2017 ICO ended, the value of crypto rockets:

BTC - 1,046  @ $17,100 each =  $17,886,600 January 2018
ETH - 4619   @ $1389 each =     $6,415,791  January 2018
LTC - 856     @ $298   each =    $255,088     January 2018


Dean Nolan seems to have hit the jackpot himself at Betking.io by getting investors to "invest crypto for betking tokens" when the tokens are virtually worthless and useless.

I feel sorry for the investors who got duped in to putting money in to failed website such as Betking.io and falling for the pathetic dream selling techniques of Dean Nolan who made millions from this ICO.

A very clever man is that Dean Nolan

14899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Minexcoin - A new era of payments on: July 31, 2018, 02:52:46 PM
The Minexbank with its parking benefits are excellent innovation. What other projects are Minexcoin planning for the future?
Minexpay with debit cards is coming very soon.

Yes the cards will be great but apart from the cards and Minexbank is there anything else on the agenda in the coming weeks?
14900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Main] Bitcore- BTX - Are you ready for the future? on: July 31, 2018, 11:46:17 AM
I just used the IGNORE button on a couple of fools who keep spamming this thread with nothing positive to add or any constructive criticism.
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