did some calculations:
lets take batch 2 without PSU but express shipping. that means 7039 USD. if you are not able to pick it up on your own and bring it across the border without paying VAT (illegal!) you have to pay the full amount to customs because bitmine will include an invoice showing the correct total. lets take 20% VAT for e.g. (lots of EU countries have more): 7039*1,2= 8447 USD -> PSU 250 USD = 8697 USD.

batch 2 will arrive early september if there are no further delays from avalon: diff. will be at least 60 mio.
calculation done with overclocked unit with 110 GH/s.
I'm sure the diff. will increase about 45 %/month (~15% each cycle) for the next few month.

http://btcinvest.net/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=60000000&dcosts=8697&diff_mincrease=45&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=110000&btcusd_mincrease=0&btcusd=90&dpowcon=1000&dleadtime=0&pcost=0.30&calcweeks=52&action=calc

reaching break even: NEVER

-> asked them for refund or discount offer to all batch 2/3 customers.

+1
I guess they don't know anything more than we do.

I expected to start mining at a diff. of about 40-45 mio.

Bitmine offers refund till the device is shipped...it seems there is no danger for customers, but what will happen when most of batch2/3 customers ask for a refund...

anyone toying with the idea for a refund?
batch 2: early sept., expected diff. of about 60-70 mio, ROI could be close
batch 3: end of sept.?, I don't believe batch 3 would reach ROI ever.

gox kann man momentan sowieso nicht mehr ernst nehmen. eine gute woche für deposit und viele wochen für withdraw -> die nehmen sich selbst aus dem spiel.

they won't give us anything, never! they would provide the information to the police only.

yep it was!

they won't freeze an account on private request...like expected.

@green65
any news regarding met police?
they have at least to:
- get IPs from this BCT
- get information from bitstamp
- have a closer look at his PayPal account and Stefan Darin
- and check the provided bank account
- also get information about user gapthemind (BCT IP,...)

I asked him about the deadline. Answer:
It is his last message I got from him too.

I don't need phone and address, just IBAN+BIC and name for SEPA.

The last transfer (40.05) its me.
It really galls me I hadn't taken a look at the blockchain before I sent the coins. I wouldn't have sent it if I had seen the balance (0).
I registered few days ago but I'm reading much longer at this board.

this could be the shop listed in his details.

did he sent a refund from this bank account? if not this could be anyone elses bank account and he speculated that most will pay in BTC. means: this could be a totaly stolen identity.

100% scam, there is no reasonable reason to spread our coins like he did.

Szabo Gabi            2             will pickup localy                                    1.78             (paid cash, btc done)
Nemet Gyula          2            will pickup localy                                     1.78             (paid cash, btc done)

gapthemind           30            Romania            GLS                              26.7             (sepa transfer)
Anonymous            1              Spain            GLS                                  0.89             (sepa transfer, btc done)

we are looking for this 4 guys if they are real. bank information will help a lot.
further do we need his IP.

welche hubs verwendest/verkaufst du wenn man fragen darf?

finger weg von diesem hub.
nach 6 stück ist bei meinem ebenfalls schluss, mehr geht nicht. ganz egal an welcher position sie stecken. die miner werden erkannt, aber cgminer spuckt die "hw nounce" fehlermeldung aus oder schreibt gigantisch hohe hashraten kombiniert mit hohen hw-error. auch direkt mit einem PSU verbunden sind nicht mehr als 6 möglich, an der stromversorgung kanns also nicht liegen. ich hatte den hub in der zwischenzeit auch schon offen, total miserable verarbeitung. die lötstellen sehen wild aus, habe gleich alle nachgelötet. auf der oberseite sind 3 fehlstellen in der leiterbahn die offensichtlich vom hersteller nachgelötet worden sind. das nachlöten sämtlicher lötpunkte hat leider nichts geändert.
da ich nicht an zufälle glaube (2 user mit max. anzahl von 6), muss irgendwas in dem hub limitieren.