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1501  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: February 14, 2023, 08:40:58 PM

Tottenham are favorites to win in the match against Ac milan. The quality of Tottenham's game is better than Ac milan and this is evident in the several matches they have played in the domestic league. in this first leg I see Ac milan having a good chance to be able to put strong pressure on tottenham in the first leg because Ac milan is the host in this match, of course they will be stronger playing at home.

The line up is now available for viewing. Conte played his core players in this first leg where Harry Kane front line became the loose end for Tottenham in this match.

I agree with you. Tottenham are the favorites to go through to the next round, and I was very surprised when I turned on the TV and read that Milan had already taken the lead in the 7th minute through Diaz, Milan will obviously aim hard to make a victory at San Siro, since when they go to London the chances of winning are greatly reduced, playing the second leg at home is a significant advantage for Tottenham and Antonio Conte knows this well
1502  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BITCOIN PUMP! on: February 13, 2023, 10:32:36 PM
Detto questo e' chiaro che la stable su cui gli americani puntano e' USDC
Io lo vedo anche come un attacco premeditato a Binance, d'altra parte è chiaro che gli USA non lo vedano di buon occhio dopo quanto successo con FTX (come se il cattivo sia stato CZ che ha semplicemente fatto presente quanto stava succedendo, non Sam che stava truffando miliardi su miliardi, vabbè...).

si inventeranno regolamenti a caso e rogne inesistenti solo per dare fastidio ai concorrenti
Spero seriamente che i vari exchange etc inizino con azioni giudiziarie perché mi pare chiaro che questo sia un chiarissimo abuso di potere e che ci siano degli interessi personali in ballo. Stanno cercando di danneggiare un intero settore per i propri comodi.

ma io credo che più che un futile attacco a Binance sia proprio un attacco a tutto il settore crypto, dopo il collasso di FTX in tanti si sono resi conto che negli exchange crypto circolano svariati miliardi di dollari, sono soldi che tecnicamente vengono meno alle tradizionali borse. ho un amico che lavora per la Hampshire trust bank e che fino a 2 anni fa mi criticava sui i miei investimenti in bitcoin, da un paio di mesi a questa parte invece ci sentiamo spesso sugli investimenti in bitcoin. morale della favola, in tanti stanno spostando capitali su bitcoin e su alcune crypto e a detta del mio amico i capi grossi storcono ancora il naso
1503  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 13, 2023, 09:54:33 PM
0-0 at Marassi for Sampdoria vs Inter
for the blucerchiata team a point that could move morale rather than the rankings. Inter maintaining second place but not detaching their pursuers.

Sampdoria made themselves dangerous with Lammers and Gabbiadini, Inter who nearly scored in the final with Acerbi's great shot deflected off the crossbar by Audero. Inter despite having made more than 20 shots were unable to find the goal and the victory, and now they slip to -15 from Napoli who can now play the championship peacefully without too much pressure from their pursuers
1504  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: wallet Bitcoin con supporto LN on: February 13, 2023, 09:32:56 PM


LN sta piacendo anche a me nonostante non lo abbia studiato tanto! Il problema non sono i 3000 sats che ricordo sono il minimo, ma più che altro il problema è l'1%
Esempio pratico

Devo ricevere 2.000.000 di sat
2.000.000 x 1% = 20.000
20.000 = 4,34$ (al valore di oggi)

4,34$ per ricevere un pagamento! Sono tanti! E solo per riceverli.. a me pare che vada contro il principio di convenienza

Ovviamente sono pareri personali, ma se il prezzo di btc sale diventa un esborso esoso per chi deve ricevere


E' per questo che LN conviene per chi ha da fare molte transazioni di piccolo importo: perchè le fees le paghi solo all'apertura/chiusura del canale.
Se tu dovessi fare UNA SOLA tx di 2 milioni di sat, la blockchain è ancora la strada più conveniente.

Questo vale anche per chi non ha Phoenix: la creazione (o distruzione) di un canale è comunque una tx on chain che richiede commissioni, anche per chi ha un nodo autogestito.
L'unica differenza è che con Phoenix tutti gli sbattimenti tecnici sono nascosti sotto il cofano. Il rovescio della medaglia è che non sei tu a decidere quando aprire/chiudere un canale e di quale importo crearlo: fa tutto il wallet in automatico.

ok per chi deve fare tante e piccole transazioni è molto conveniente visto che la fee si paga solo alla creazione e successivamente alla saturazione del canale, a quanto ho capito se come prima transazione ricevi per caso 2.000.000 di sats il sistema ti apre un canale con capacità da 2.000.000 o maggiore, ovviamente pagando le fee del caso. e da li si dovrebbe un pò giostrarsi il balance, magari togliendo il 50% del totale così da non dover ricorrere all'apertura di un nuovo canale, dimmi se ho capito bene o sto dicendo fandonie  Grin Grin
1505  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: wallet Bitcoin con supporto LN on: February 13, 2023, 12:44:39 PM


Quello che avevo fatto io, ma a via di accumulare satoshi su satoshi poi il canale arriva alla capacità massima. Anzi nel mio caso dovevo riceve 15k di sat con canale a capacità massima di 67k e di cui ne avevo in balance solo 21k e mi faceva abortire la transazione nonostante ci fossero più di 15k di capacità! Muun non fa vedere se hai i canali ed è un peccato perché non sto capendo come funziona

Oltretutto con Phoenix, se lasci abilitata la creazione automatica dei canali, ci sta che ti apra un nuovo canale anche se quelli esistenti hanno capacità sufficiente.

Ad esempio ieri questi erano i miei canali:



Pensavo di poter ricevere la somma della differenza (capacità-balance) tra i due canali, invece me ne ha aperto uno nuovo anche per un deposito inferiore  Huh.

La spiegazione tecnica è data nelle loro faq qui https://phoenix.acinq.co/faq#how-much-can-i-receive-with-my-existing-channels: alcuni fondi sono bloccati dal protocollo per sicurezza e per i multi-part payment per cui i balance indicati possono non essere quelli effettivi

Serve un upgrade a LN (questo https://bitcoinops.org/en/topics/package-relay/) per superare questa limitazione.

Speriamo arrivi presto, perchè un neofita che non legge le faq e si trova di fronte ad un comportamento del genere pensa subito (giustamente) alla fregatura.

Ah ecco grazie mille della spiegazione, alcune cose non sapevo veramente, io lo avevo disabilitato e infatti non ricevevo nessun tx in ingresso, problema che attualmente non sto riscontrando su muun attualmente ma vi aggiornerò in caso ci siano novità su questo fronte

ah ecco, LN non l'ho ancora studiato cosi a fondo da capirne i motivi
gia cosi a me piace un sacco, se attuano questo upgrade diventa ancora piu economico!
Smiley
chiaro se il valore di bitcoin schizza, 3000 satoshi diventano rilevanti

LN sta piacendo anche a me nonostante non lo abbia studiato tanto! Il problema non sono i 3000 sats che ricordo sono il minimo, ma più che altro il problema è l'1%
Esempio pratico

Devo ricevere 2.000.000 di sat
2.000.000 x 1% = 20.000
20.000 = 4,34$ (al valore di oggi)

4,34$ per ricevere un pagamento! Sono tanti! E solo per riceverli.. a me pare che vada contro il principio di convenienza

Ovviamente sono pareri personali, ma se il prezzo di btc sale diventa un esborso esoso per chi deve ricevere
1506  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 13, 2023, 12:21:30 PM
Roma and Lazio and also Atalanta are very competitive teams this year and Milan will have to fight against them until the end of the championship, yesterday Milan were a bit lucky because Roma didn't go beyond a 1-1 draw against the Lecce and Lazio lost to Atalanta now in third place tied on points are Atalanta Rome and Milan so this is the standings

3-Atalanta 41
4-Roma 41
5-Milan 41
6-Lazio 39
7-Torino 30


The fight for fourth place is getting very tough for Milan Roma and Atalanta, the Milan-Atalanta match will take place on February 26, overtaking them in the standings will be played

I think that intermilan's position can't also be considered a safe position too. It must be added to the list. Almost all of them were also having a very small gap of points. One loss will make another club able to surpass it. Intermilan is now only collecting 43 points. it's only 2 points away from a competitor below it. A single match will be able to surpass intermilan as long as intermilan will be lost. That's pretty interesting how napoli was making so many competitors were strictly competing for the UCL position. Those clubs were still trying to catch top 2-4 until the end of seasons.
There are not safe zones for the club below napoli.


I omitted Inter from the standings by pure mistake, they are not in a safe position in the standings and I have said it several times in this thread that they are competing for a place in the top 4 for access to the Champions League, tonight they will play against Sampdoria in Marassi, if they win they will maintain a gap of 5 points from Roma Atalanta and Milan, if they lose they will still remain second in the standings but see the gap from Napoli lengthen, which is now projected to win Serie A


I don't think it is relevant to add Torino to the list. They are too far from top six and likely won't be able to compete for a position in top 6, not in top 4 for sure.

After yesterday with a draw from AS Roma, a win for Atalanta and a loss for Lazio, three clubs have same 41 total points are Atalanta, AS Roma and AC Milan. They are not far from Inter Milan at the second position with 43 points (and have one match to play) as well don't have big gap against Lazio. Together, those clubs are making a very hot and exciting race to top four. Even Inter Milan are not safe at the second position as well as a position in top four.

With bad results for clubs from 3rd to 6th positions, if Inter Milan get a bad result and Napoli get another win in this match day, Serie A trophy (Scudetto) should be awarded to Napoli months before the season ending.

I have included Torino because they are the last team competing for a place in Europe, seventh place in Serie A gives them access to the conference league, they are still 9 points behind Lazio who are sixth in the standings and do not have a reassuring advantage 100% certain that I am sure that Torino will not go beyond seventh place. In any case, I agree with you if Inter lose tonight, they slip to -16 from Napoli and the championship, as you say, will end months earlier, but I want to hope that Inter may be able to reopen the championship and see a more engaging Serie A until end of championship. what do you think about it?
1507  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 12, 2023, 07:21:29 AM
Prior to the beautiful header of Olivier Giroud, the match was could go to either team. AC Milan is again not performing at its best, but Giroud saved the day for them. In their subsequent matches, Milan will undoubtedly improve. However, the fact that Olivier Giroud is still performing at a high level despite his age left me awestruck. He is, in my opinion, underrated and one of the best headers in football. Even though Milan is not my favorite team, I always look up to Olivier Giroud and admire him.

I fully share your thoughts for Olivier Giroud, even if he's already old he behaves as if he were still twenty, headers have always been his specialty. As for Milan, he won by suffering, but that was the only thing what did it matter! has finally closed the negative trend, losing again meant saying goodbye also to the Champions League race, but there are still many games to play and the competition for second, third and fourth place is very high
Milan still hold on to third place but there is a lot of competition for the first, second and third places so it is doubtful how long they will be able to hold onto their position.AC Milan have been playing very well so far and are winning their own games but their style of play is not very favorable so they can get out of position at any time. But hopefully they will correct themselves before they are knocked out of their position
I don't agree so much, if Milan had played well so far they wouldn't have found themselves at -18 from first place, by now I would exclude it for them, they can still play for second, third and fourth place, but another misstep could be hard to digest, because those three positions compete Inter Roma Lazio Atalanta and AC Milan
It is true that Roma & Lazio are strong rivals of Milan.  And especially these two teams are doing their best to overtake Milan to the 3rd position and I believe Roma can overtake Milan anytime to take over their position. Milan won today's match with Torino 1-0.  Let's see how many runs Roma can beat Lecce. I think Roma will beat Lecce 2-0 in today's match.  And the game is going to start after just 5 min.  Lecce vs Roma

Roma and Lazio and also Atalanta are very competitive teams this year and Milan will have to fight against them until the end of the championship, yesterday Milan were a bit lucky because Roma didn't go beyond a 1-1 draw against the Lecce and Lazio lost to Atalanta now in third place tied on points are Atalanta Rome and Milan so this is the standings

3-Atalanta 41
4-Roma 41
5-Milan 41
6-Lazio 39
7-Torino 30


The fight for fourth place is getting very tough for Milan Roma and Atalanta, the Milan-Atalanta match will take place on February 26, overtaking them in the standings will be played
1508  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 11, 2023, 03:19:55 PM
Prior to the beautiful header of Olivier Giroud, the match was could go to either team. AC Milan is again not performing at its best, but Giroud saved the day for them. In their subsequent matches, Milan will undoubtedly improve. However, the fact that Olivier Giroud is still performing at a high level despite his age left me awestruck. He is, in my opinion, underrated and one of the best headers in football. Even though Milan is not my favorite team, I always look up to Olivier Giroud and admire him.

I fully share your thoughts for Olivier Giroud, even if he's already old he behaves as if he were still twenty, headers have always been his specialty. As for Milan, he won by suffering, but that was the only thing what did it matter! has finally closed the negative trend, losing again meant saying goodbye also to the Champions League race, but there are still many games to play and the competition for second, third and fourth place is very high
Milan still hold on to third place but there is a lot of competition for the first, second and third places so it is doubtful how long they will be able to hold onto their position.AC Milan have been playing very well so far and are winning their own games but their style of play is not very favorable so they can get out of position at any time. But hopefully they will correct themselves before they are knocked out of their position


I don't agree so much, if Milan had played well so far they wouldn't have found themselves at -18 from first place, by now I would exclude it for them, they can still play for second, third and fourth place, but another misstep could be hard to digest, because those three positions compete Inter Roma Lazio Atalanta and AC Milan
1509  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 11, 2023, 11:53:28 AM
Prior to the beautiful header of Olivier Giroud, the match was could go to either team. AC Milan is again not performing at its best, but Giroud saved the day for them. In their subsequent matches, Milan will undoubtedly improve. However, the fact that Olivier Giroud is still performing at a high level despite his age left me awestruck. He is, in my opinion, underrated and one of the best headers in football. Even though Milan is not my favorite team, I always look up to Olivier Giroud and admire him.

I fully share your thoughts for Olivier Giroud, even if he's already old he behaves as if he were still twenty, headers have always been his specialty. As for Milan, he won by suffering, but that was the only thing what did it matter! has finally closed the negative trend, losing again meant saying goodbye also to the Champions League race, but there are still many games to play and the competition for second, third and fourth place is very high
1510  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [LIST] Open Source Hardware Wallets on: February 11, 2023, 11:43:12 AM

I don't own OneKey hardware wallet so I can't answer everything you want, but I know they are forked from Trezor wallet with added secure element ATECC608A.
They are making regular updates for their native OneKey app, but not all of their devices have battery, only OneKey Classic 100 mAh and OneKey Touch 800 mAh.
I am not going to recommend any hardware wallet, you have the list with more information, and you can make your own decision based on your needs and coins your use.
oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one
If you are paranoid, honestly get yourself a Passport batch 2. It is on the expensive side, but it's worth its price, since the hardware (and of course, software) is all open source and verifiable, so it has no hidden mini chips in the camera, display or elsewhere running closed firmware. It is also just very convenient to use.
Click the hyperlink for my full review, otherwise I'll start repeating myself.. Wink

I had never heard of this hardware wallet passport batch 2, thank you for letting me know, I saw the prices and they are a bit high but obviously you pay for the quality, as soon as I have two free minutes I read your review carefully so don't ask questions you may have already answered in the thread. Thanks again
1511  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 10, 2023, 09:50:50 PM
in the second half it seems that the match has livened up a bit! perhaps a little more from Turin, but Milan had the most tempting opportunity to take the lead denied by milinkovic Savic on the goal line! right now while I was writing Giroud scored the 1-0 goal, I was just thinking of making a live bet but I think I can now abandon the idea, what do you think is the case of a live bet maybe on Gol/goal?
In the second half it was very visible that AC Milan began to build attacks and control the ball better so they were able to produce a goal in the 62nd minute through Giroud. That is a very good thing for AC Milan because the team really needs to win at home after having had several bad results in the previous matches. And for the problem of direct betting, I personally cannot give a more detailed opinion because it has a different risk than ordinary betting in general.

I was listening to the match on the radio, and from the commentary it seemed that Torino were creating good chances, but obviously watching it on TV gives you a better understanding of the match! for Milan it's a big breath of fresh air after the recent negative results, I hope this victory brings peace of mind to the team, I wanted to bet live but in the end I decided not to do it even if the goal / goal quote was quite good but it was highly risky
1512  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 10, 2023, 09:14:30 PM
Still 0-0 in the 1st half between Milan and Torino.
The game is balanced without any dominance shown.

Anything can still happen.

in the second half it seems that the match has livened up a bit! perhaps a little more from Turin, but Milan had the most tempting opportunity to take the lead denied by milinkovic Savic on the goal line! right now while I was writing Giroud scored the 1-0 goal, I was just thinking of making a live bet but I think I can now abandon the idea, what do you think is the case of a live bet maybe on Gol/goal?
1513  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: wallet Bitcoin con supporto LN on: February 10, 2023, 08:00:06 PM


perche anche io uso phoenix e man mano sale btc le fee diventano pesantucce


Il problema di Phoenix è che per semplificare al massimo la user experience, nasconde completamente la creazione dei canali che sono necessari per gestire i pagamenti.
E, sempre per lo stesso motivo, impedisce l'apertura/chiusura manuale di un canale.

La creazione di canali "on the fly" costa 1% dell'ammontare ricevuto con un minimo di 3000 sats.
Un modo per evitare fees impreviste è disabilitare questa creazione automatica (impostazioni-->payment options and fees)
Così facendo, se l'importo che si vuole ricevere è superiore alla disponibilità la tx non va a buon fine.

 

Quello che avevo fatto io, ma a via di accumulare satoshi su satoshi poi il canale arriva alla capacità massima. Anzi nel mio caso dovevo riceve 15k di sat con canale a capacità massima di 67k e di cui ne avevo in balance solo 21k e mi faceva abortire la transazione nonostante ci fossero più di 15k di capacità! Muun non fa vedere se hai i canali ed è un peccato perché non sto capendo come funziona
1514  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [LIST] Open Source Hardware Wallets on: February 10, 2023, 07:49:54 PM
oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one
I wanted to buy one for my testing when it was dirt cheap, but I gave up on that idea and I didn't want to wait for delivery from China.
Open source doesn't automatically mean that something is more secure, it's easier for secure experts to inspect the code to find bugs, but that can also be done by malicious actors.
You might want to read up the latest post I wrote about OneKey wallet:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439320.0

you are absolutely right, open source is not synonymous with security, but in some ways it is always safer than a closed source, which you must necessarily trust! by that I don't mean that there are malicious companies to steal funds, but scams are always around the corner. that's why I got paranoia 😅. I've had a look at your new thread and I have to say it's a good thing that OneKey commissioned this bugbounty. they fixed quite a bit of a problem
1515  Economy / Services / Re: [CFNP] Coinplay Crypto Sportsbook & Casino Signature Camp. |Up to 80 $BTC Reward on: February 10, 2023, 07:40:38 PM
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1516  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 09, 2023, 09:56:28 PM
AC Milan will protect Torino in Serie A this week, the problem now is that AC Milan is in a negative trend with even 5 matches without a win, while Torino, who will be their opponent this time, is a team that cannot be underestimated. In the standings, Torino is right below them with a difference of 8 points. It will be a difficult match for AC Milan, will they continue with the negative trend or can they stop their bad run in this match?
Torino is also not a club that can be underestimated. Their positions are sequential and usually this will make Torino's spirits rise. But on the other hand, I'm sure that MIlan will not let them lose for the umpteenth time in Serie A. There is indeed a lot of homework at the Milan club. But I believe they should be able to overcome it for their position and prestige as a big club in Serie A. If they fail again, they will really be trash.

Milan is in a very particular situation, it comes from a negative trend with 5 games without a win, to be premised that Turin itself eliminated Milan from the Italian cup, now they find themselves facing each other again! Turin has nothing to lose, however Milan is at great risk, I believe that in this match Milan will try to reverse the negative trend and will try to keep Turin away in the standings, already against Inter we had seen an improvement in defense from part of Milan! for me it will be the right time for Milan to win or draw
1517  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [LIST] Open Source Hardware Wallets on: February 09, 2023, 09:20:27 PM

I don't own OneKey hardware wallet so I can't answer everything you want, but I know they are forked from Trezor wallet with added secure element ATECC608A.
They are making regular updates for their native OneKey app, but not all of their devices have battery, only OneKey Classic 100 mAh and OneKey Touch 800 mAh.
I am not going to recommend any hardware wallet, you have the list with more information, and you can make your own decision based on your needs and coins your use.

oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one
1518  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [LIST] Open Source Hardware Wallets on: February 09, 2023, 07:22:54 PM
I think it's time for me to change hardware wallet, this time I would like to take an Open source hardware wallet that doesn't cost much, I looked at your list and the onekey classic caught my attention, it looks like a good device but I would like to ask what do you think? Are the updates regular? does the battery have a long life? Or would you recommend a different wallet? thanks to whoever replies
1519  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: wallet Bitcoin con supporto LN on: February 09, 2023, 09:07:33 AM
Leggevo non mi ricordo dove di muun che pare sia migliore di Phoenix per la questione delle fee.
Quale secondo voi, bisogna usare wallet per perdere meno fee possibili?
Chiedo a causa della mia mente curiosa!

Ho alzato personalmente io la questione sul gruppo btctalk Italia, utilizzavo Phoenix per ricevere pagamenti ma erano di piccoli importi ed ogni 3 o 4 pagamenti mi richiedeva di aprire nuovi Channel, il problema era che li apriva di piccole quantità (magari per errore mio) e ogni qualvolta si apre un Channel chiedeva o 1% di fee o minimo 3000sat , ora non è tanto il pagare quel .80 o .90 centesimi di dollaro ma perché deve pagare chi riceve? O perché deve aprire Channel di piccoli importi? A lungo andare potrebbe diventare dispendioso! Quindi ho spostato tutto su muun e finora non mi ha chiesto fee sulle tx in entrata ma è ancora presto per dire se muun e migliore o meno

tienici informato il primo pagamento che fai
perche anche io uso phoenix e man mano sale btc le fee diventano pesantucce
quindi.. non so appena compri un buono bitrefill.. o meglio, potrei farlo io a sto giro Cheesy
massi dai
me lo installo anche io muun

Vi terrò informati non appena farò un pagamento, oppure non appena mi decido a usare bitrefill!
Infatti la mia perplessità stava proprio nel costo delle TX più sale btc e più grossa diventa la spesa! Cioè viene a costare di più una tx offchain che una tx onchain

Provalo muun secondo me ti piacerà
1520  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: $8 LNbits DIY Wallet on: February 09, 2023, 08:16:59 AM

Everything works fine and I didn't have any problems, but I am not using it very much and device is just ''sleeping'' in one of my tech drawers.
I remember there was some small issues during initial firmware and software installation, but this was related to my operating system, not with device itself.
Device I used was dirt cheap and I printed my own case, so it's easy to do it yourself.


Fantastic! great to know that your creation still works and without major problems, as soon as I find some time for myself I will also try to build this HW, I wanted to ask you with which operating system did you encounter problems with firmware and software? If I were to encounter the same problem Can I ask how did you solve it? Thanks in advance and congratulations again for your creation which I find really fantastic
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