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1501  Economy / Speculation / Re: what you think about bitcoin in like 5 years? on: October 08, 2017, 09:36:25 PM
My best guess is that at a certain moment btc will stagnate in price and will be overtaken by some more usable coins/applications. Bitcoin will be the safe haven in this world

exactly, there will be large hedgefunds and pensionfunds built around the top 15 cryptocurrencies, led by bitcoin at a price of 30K probably
1502  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: red pulse ICO worth it? on: October 08, 2017, 09:35:21 PM
Damn they raised 15 million in a few hours, the hype is real, glad I got in on time!

It was one hour and ten minutes to be precise.

wow that 3500$ a minute, quite a nice result imo
1503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Effects of ICO ban in China on: October 08, 2017, 09:32:58 PM
China released a statement saying they're gonna have a zero tolerance policy towards crypto crimes, which means they're gonna regulate it, which means both the exchanges and ICO's will become completely legal again soon.
most of the regulation with recent updates had help some price increase.

exactly they basically said chinese people could invest again, be it with tighter laws
1504  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 17th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 08, 2017, 09:32:09 PM
I'm looking in the website and the Whitepaper for some intormation I haven't found yet.
IF you want to become a storage provider it's not really clear how much storage you should be able to provide and what would the return of providing this storage be?
Is this all information to be determined?

While there are a lot of ambiguities, but I think the developers will work hard and will report before ico

I believe they'll release a beta in q1 of 2018, and they'll probably adapt to whatever they find out about how much storage is needed/how it'll work.
1505  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best ICO in October on: October 08, 2017, 08:40:42 PM
Today is the Red-pulse day.
It will intersting to see how the ICO will attract investors with all the chinese stuffs and the coming BTC-Gold fork

the investors were present. the ICO was sold out in less than 65 minutes.
well done!

red pulse has already ended and ico lasted only an hour, did I understand it correctly?

I think so, they raised about 15 million dollars

Well, yes, a small capitalization at this level hype. then this is expected, good ico

definitely!
1506  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: October 08, 2017, 08:40:04 PM
this is very crazy you can get money for free from mining genesis address if you can get 1 MNE / day thats mean you get 0.01 BTC / month
i see on last month Minereum price on Cryptopia is 0.001 BTC but now just 0.0003 BTC very high risk to invest in this token  Undecided

they had good intentions and a good project, but those two things aren't enough to manage and grow a company.
1507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Binance: $BNB The Future of Exchanges. on: October 08, 2017, 08:37:50 PM
I agree, Binance is growing very quickly, and despite the fact they are an eastern exchange the 80% of their users are western, so it's very famous. And in the meantime there are the "old" exchanges such as Bittrex and Poloniex which are not doing that well: Bittrex doesn't add any new coins, actually they are delisting 5, and Poloniex well, a lot of people are leaving it because of the bad customer service and various problems with withdraws, frozen accounts etc.

If Binance keeps going in this way they could become the best exchange.

Bittrex is fucking things up, if they plan on delisting NEO because gas could be considered a dividend, it won't be long until Binance becomes the worlds best exchange (which it already is in my eyes).
1508  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: red pulse ICO worth it? on: October 08, 2017, 08:35:21 PM
Damn they raised 15 million in a few hours, the hype is real, glad I got in on time!

Yeah man.. in the first 20 minutes they were more than halfway towards the hard cap.
I didn't know the second round was a guarantee.. I thought it was possible all coins were sold out in the first hour. I've seen a lot of complaints about the second round, so I'm not quite sure what happened there.

But hey.. happy with the ones I got Smiley

The more money they make, the bigger and better they can make the project so I'm all for it
1509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 17th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 08, 2017, 08:34:42 PM
WOW 5000 ETH is already raised. Interesting. Going to read whitepaper for more detail. project looks interesting

Hello, where did you see this ? I was looking for the details of the presale.

It's on their website, but there aren't a lot of details
1510  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are ICOs scam? on: October 08, 2017, 08:33:31 PM


Holy shitballs Cheesy this is exactly what I've been talking about actually, so many of my friends keep sending me websites and stuff for new ICO's yet they don't even bother to check if the team is actually doing anything. The process you describe in that picture would honestly barely take 1 day, and you can literally make half a million dollar in 1 week doing this Most people won't fall into your trap, but some would. It's like sending out an email about being a nigerian prince and wanting to share your millions with them, provided they pay you 10K to cover expenses. if you send it to 100.000 email addresses, I'm sure 50 of them will send you the money, and boom you just made half a million bucks

Indeed. I once wanted to launch an ICO for a coin project with a client of mine, i got hold of a DEV immediately during negotiation he wanted 30% of the ICO that would be gathered.... The problems lies that ICO's are so easy to set up and you will always have suckers putting money into it. Even a retard could set up a coin with an ICO and walk away with free BTC's, it has become breeding ground for fraudsters. Just see how many pop every week hundreds....

Exactly, we're entering a completely new world, which will benefit those who want to take advantage of the less clever

Its a chain of effects , if newbies took the time to read the forums they wouldn't loose their money.

Or just read the wp and google the teammembers and the tech they're gonna use. Took me about 1 hour of research to decide to invest in Change, 1.5 hours to decide to invest in Datum, and about the same for investing in Red Pulse
1511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: October 08, 2017, 08:11:40 PM
It was expected that price will see correction because major updates are still at some time away. By looking at positive side it is good that new investors made their way into SONM in last increase. Next increase backed by some solid update will take the price at above 10k satoshi.

Yeah indeed, it's still a great time to enter, in fact I sold some of my other coins with nce profits today to buy the sonm dip
1512  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum in 5 years on: October 08, 2017, 08:10:12 PM
Ethereum will be a new world money. 5 years a big time to analyze something like that. We even don't know what will be in a year.

Ethereum isn't actual money we'll pay for in stores, it's a platform, a fast growing one, and the money we'll use for its services will become more and more valuable no doubt
1513  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Stox - Prediction market platform | Token sale has ended on: October 08, 2017, 08:09:15 PM
Stox will grow above $50 a coin next year, mark my words.

It can happen if Gnosis at $110 and Augur @ $18

Stox is better than both of them..  would recommend just buy and hold

You are throwing dollar prices around here like if they were comparable. You should have a look at the supply and come up with a common denominator. This does not make sense at all.

Agreed you gotta look at the whole picture. And besides without a working product how can they even begin to climb back up? The only that was great about this coin was Mayweather shilling it hard. After that

whole epsiode things have been rough. I guess we know to stay away from celebrity endorsement deals in the future...or so Id hope  Roll Eyes

Haha I completely missed that. Did Mayweather talk about this coin? How the heck did he become aware of this project?


Mayweather posted a tweet on his twitter regarding the Stox Ico and how he's about to make millions. So that hyped everyone up, and Stox was pretty smart about leading on investors with saying that theres a huge announcement (Around the fight) so everyone thought Mayweather was gonna promote it on TV, like wear a hat or a shirt with the words STOX on it but nothing happened. The night after the fight Stox went from $2.70 to $1 then the next day it went from $1 to $.50 lol.

Hahaha oh my god, what a great story. And it shows how much the people care about stuff besides the development itself. Herd behavior at its best Cheesy Hilarious!

its not true
it did not fall to 0.5$ in 2 days


You're right, instead it had a slow sad fall and it took about week or so. But it did go from $2.75 to $1 in 2 days. lol

Cheesy he found a small piece of wrong info in the overall correct puzzle! Kudos Tongue

haha I wish I could upvote comments (I get that feeling a lot here lol)
1514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 17th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 08, 2017, 08:08:08 PM
well, just for the brain thinking Smiley

1 company will not pay you directly 2k$ for your data, thats for sure, maybe 10 Cent or 1$, but you will get your ~2k$ by many companys aka data buyers altogether.

I think you can sell your personal datas for way more than this.

More than 10$ easily.

If you have the right data for the company which want to buy, maybe yes.

But still I wonder, why should companies like Facebook or others stop selling our data themself? I mean, there are companies out there who collect everything they can get from us, they will not just stop selling it now.

they will not stop selling, but they are the middle men. If companies buy directly from end users, they wont need the middle men anymore. I love the idea Smiley

Facebook will buy from you as well, you know
Many companies will buy your data but best for me is that I could also decide that nobody will be allowed to buy my data.

Maybe I don't understand the project, but Datum won't/can't prevent facebook & co. from selling your data, right? This would mean, that I actually won't get back control of my data. So, even if I decide not to sell my data, whoever is interested in them, can still buy them from facebook + others.

You are right, if you back up your data to Datum, i guess you can sell it cheaper then social media sites do. Either that or let Facebook / twitter sell it to third parties and you'll get nothing. At least that's how i understood it anyway.

Exactly. It's not the data that facebook sells anyway, it's the actual real data. Have you noticed how some ads are not relevant for you? That's because facebook doesn't know everything. Now, once datum is up and running, facebook will want to get in on that, so they'll buy your data to give you relevant ads that you're actually interested in, so that 1. you'll be happier on facebook because you're not getting irrelevant ads, and 2. facebook advertisers will be happier because they're not spending money on irrelevant ads, 3. facebook will be happier because both parties are happier
1515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 17th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 08, 2017, 08:04:46 PM
well, just for the brain thinking Smiley

1 company will not pay you directly 2k$ for your data, thats for sure, maybe 10 Cent or 1$, but you will get your ~2k$ by many companys aka data buyers altogether.

I think you can sell your personal datas for way more than this.

More than 10$ easily.

If you have the right data for the company which want to buy, maybe yes.

But still I wonder, why should companies like Facebook or others stop selling our data themself? I mean, there are companies out there who collect everything they can get from us, they will not just stop selling it now.

they will not stop selling, but they are the middle men. If companies buy directly from end users, they wont need the middle men anymore. I love the idea Smiley

Facebook will buy from you as well, you know
Many companies will buy your data but best for me is that I could also decide that nobody will be allowed to buy my data.

Some data will always be outside of your control I'm afraid, as long as you're living on the grid
1516  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Next 100x? on: October 08, 2017, 08:02:13 PM
TradeCoinv2 is where I see 1000x - I have spoken with the team and look forward to the release of MN, once the MN is released it will hit 100x guaranteed. 1000x next year easy...

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tradecoin-v2/
The problem with these kind of coins is very low marketcap. It's only $60. How will i be able to buy around $300-400?

You mean volume, and normally some people have sell orders ready so you should be able to buy
Why would have problem on this one?As you said there are sell order which have been set by people which you wont really have a problem on buying worth $300-400. Marketcap is just the total amount or value of the coins which is circulating.If you would able to buy more coins then expect you would able to affect price since it has a low supply it can somehow easily be manipulated.

What he said haha
1517  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: red pulse ICO worth it? on: October 08, 2017, 08:00:08 PM
Damn they raised 15 million in a few hours, the hype is real, glad I got in on time!
1518  Economy / Speculation / Re: what you think about bitcoin in like 5 years? on: October 08, 2017, 07:55:40 PM
I think in five years the value of bitcoin will be substantially higher, and sovereign nations may start accumulating the cryptocurrency and possibly others. Despite what the doomsayers believe, bitcoin is here to stay. It will reign supreme due to its brand.

I had never considered that, but you might be right, maybe one day federal currency will be backed by bitcoin. If that'd be the case, bitcoin would have to rise up to at least 50K
1519  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract - ARTEMINE ICO NOW LIVE on: October 08, 2017, 07:35:57 PM
This coin will be one of the top 10 in the coming years. Just keep your coins.


Yep, instead of just fudding we should be patient and spread the word about MNE/ART that way more people would get know this and maybe the prices will go up Smiley
But what is there to inform people about? I am not trying to spread some FUD or anything, I am just truly interested what is so good about this coin that will make some positive progress in the future? Dev is anonymos, never communicate with people except making announcements. Only functionality for now is token creation, which to be honest I have no idea why choose Minereum over other coins that offer this service. World app was only announced and after that absolutely zero information about that.

Actually I have one question about world app that I already asked but nobody answered. Where will the coins for that come from? Dev is claiming that he doesn't have multiple Minereum genesis addresses. So where will he get coins to distribute in Pokemon like app or whatever it should look like?

Of course some will scream FUD or whatever, but there is so many question marks in this project and dev definitely doesn't help to clear anything.

Your questions will never be answered, and it will always be taken as fud... As there arent many that still believe in MNE..... The ones that say this project is good are either new and haven't researched... Or they are one of the select few with a Genesis address and they still want to sell their coins for $$$..

It's a fact over 3400 gen addresses are held by one or two people... Now take in the unused addresses which are most likely a part of those... And you have someone that is in total control of the coin.... This was a well planned scam, you'll never see a world app... The dev has proved nothing!!! Nothing to show since the launch of Mne..
Nothing...
 What happened to the marketing for arte, the company in zug..the whole "dev always comes thru" is b.s.. It's sad I fell for the scam as a lot of other did as well.. I took my loss and make it up elsewhere, just hope someone can read this and save themselves before its to late...

 3400 gen addresses belonging to one or just a few people, whoever they are, make this coin a farce. Decentralization is gone forever for this coin, so why bother getting some?
Why bother getting some? if you can have some at a cheap value, why not right? if the development is actually happening why not right?
Its just like bitcoin concept ion a way, if most miners the big ones, are the only one getting the mine bitcoins??? Why bother buy bitcoins?

I get what you're saying, but bitcoin has proven itself, it is facing global adoption, and it has a clear purpose. Minereum is used for practically nothing. If they had the world app in beta phase before they ever started promoting it, sure, it could've gone to be something truly great, but they didn't. So, the centralisation isn't really a big problem in itself, but it's pretty much another nail to minereums coffin. They could still save the project by:
1) being transparent and letting us know who they are and how many gen addresses they have
2) getting the lottery/world app ready
3) writing a decent whitepaper for both artemine and minereum
4) communicating more and addressing the scam-rumors
5) getting listed on binance/bittrex/poloniex

(in no particular order, allthough I'd start with 1 and 4)

Well, this sums everyhting that is going on with Minereum "project". Half of the supply was burned, one could expect a price increase due to the low circulation of tokens but we must notice that demand has also decreased. Why would people need Minereum? What is beeing done in terms of development?

There are hundreds of other coins with lots of potential. If Minereum wants to catch up with all those other projects it needs to show way more, starting with the updates and team presence/communication.

agree 100%
1520  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Binance: $BNB The Future of Exchanges. on: October 08, 2017, 07:35:04 PM
Does anyone think BNB can ever recover to its ATH?

Yes, the platform is adding new coins every month, which will drive overall volume up really high, which will in turn create more demand for the transactioncoin that is bnb
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