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1521  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting on: June 05, 2013, 10:53:48 AM
Okay. There goes my 0.1 ... where's my bitcoin supplier?

I can sell you some at Gox+8.5% but highly doubt you'll be interested Wink
1522  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting on: June 05, 2013, 10:49:05 AM
Quite Frankly had I have known that I would not have bet on PrimeDice.

I would have just stuck to coinroll.it

We are not saying Stunna cheated you (would still be very hard even if he wanted: he can't know when you withdraw. You can withdraw when you are winning and he cannot simply cheat to make customers always lose or it'll be evident Grin).
TradeFortress only pointed out that Primedice system can be improved.
1523  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting on: June 05, 2013, 10:42:54 AM
That line won't make it any more "provably" fair than it is now: all seeds can potentially be manipulated internally by the server (or the dice outcome can be totally indipendent from any seed for that matter). You can never know for sure what code is running internally, there's always trust involved to some extent.

Not really. That line will make it provably fair if it's on the client, and you can prove if the roll was not determined using your client seed + server seed. Hence the provable prat.

On the client it'll be exploitable by the user (hard to do but the risk is there).

Huh? You can change your client seed now.

The client cannot exploit it, he does not know the server seed (only the hash of it).

See this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=161236.0

Provably fair means:

1. Player can directly influence the results, but not know the end result.
2. Casino can directly influence the results, but not know the end result.

3. Player can prove the casino did not influence the result AFTER knowing the end result
4. Casino can prove the player did not influence the result AFTER knowing the end result

Currently, 3 is not true for PrimeDice.com as PrimeDice knows what each roll would be assuming default client seed. Making the default client seed generated by the client (rather than the server) would make it provably fair.

Yes, you are right. I'm pretty new to the concept, thx for the good explanation (was missing the "client doesn't know server seed, only the hash of it Wink ).
1524  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting on: June 05, 2013, 10:34:47 AM
That line won't make it any more "provably" fair than it is now: all seeds can potentially be manipulated internally by the server (or the dice outcome can be totally indipendent from any seed for that matter). You can never know for sure what code is running internally, there's always trust involved to some extent.

Not really. That line will make it provably fair if it's on the client, and you can prove if the roll was not determined using your client seed + server seed. Hence the provable prat.

On the client it'll be exploitable by the user (hard to do but the risk is there). (explained thx)
1525  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting on: June 05, 2013, 10:31:21 AM
That line won't make it any more "provably" fair than it is now: all seeds can potentially be manipulated internally by the server (or the dice outcome can be totally indipendent from any seed for that matter). You can never know for sure what code is running internally, there's always trust involved to some extent. (though casinò owner can't predict when a customer will withdraw, so even if it want's to manipulate rolls  in a non obvious way to profit it'll be tricky). (explained thx)
1526  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting on: June 05, 2013, 10:21:31 AM
this is why i preferred with coinroll due to this reason

prepared server-roll seed = doom

I've seen some 14-15 losses streaks with the 50% game at coinroll, as I mentioned before (I mean 15 losses in a row, without any wins in between), it's totally normal over a large number of bets (can go even worse).
(thx God my strat/instincts/luck worked till now at avoiding betting on those streaks Grin Except 1 time but I lost little and recovered soon).
1527  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coinroll.it - Dice rolling game | Instant bets | Off-the-chain | 1% House edge on: June 04, 2013, 04:47:50 PM
+3.4 profit, I like your casinò xD Let's see how long I can keep going (playing a little every day with micro bets)(USUALLY Wink ).
1528  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▌█【VENDO】【COMPRO】█【TOP SELLER】█[BITCOIN][ALTRE]█[POSTEPAY etc]█ ▌◄ 347-1724214 ► on: June 04, 2013, 03:33:01 PM
Grazie a te.
1529  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▌█【VENDO】【COMPRO】█【TOP SELLER】█[BITCOIN][ALTRE]█[POSTEPAY etc]█ ▌◄ 347-1724214 ► on: June 03, 2013, 08:12:10 PM
Arrivati, risposto Smiley A presto.
1530  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▌█【VENDO】【COMPRO】█【TOP SELLER】█[BITCOIN][ALTRE]█[POSTEPAY etc]█ ▌◄ 347-1724214 ► on: June 03, 2013, 08:03:24 PM
Se hai problemi con i messaggi sul forum forniscimi una mail e comunichiamo lì.
1531  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▌█【VENDO】【COMPRO】█【TOP SELLER】█[BITCOIN][ALTRE]█[POSTEPAY etc]█ ▌◄ 347-1724214 ► on: June 03, 2013, 07:55:59 PM
Messaggio privato. Guarda in alto nella finestra del forum, clicchi su "my messages". Ti ho fornito tutti i dati lì Smiley
1532  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▌█【VENDO】【COMPRO】█【TOP SELLER】█[BITCOIN][ALTRE]█[POSTEPAY etc]█ ▌◄ 347-1724214 ► on: June 03, 2013, 07:49:48 PM
Hai pm.
1533  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▌█【VENDO】【COMPRO】█【TOP SELLER】█[BITCOIN][ALTRE]█[POSTEPAY etc]█ ▌◄ 347-1724214 ► on: June 03, 2013, 06:18:58 PM
Risposto.
1534  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting on: June 03, 2013, 05:48:21 PM
If you don't mind a suggestion Stunna, you should create some sort of rolling list of previous rolls, see this site as a reference https://coinroll.it
Your graphics are way better, but the list is nice to have. (also, rolls' speed is fine but would be nice to have it a lil faster, maybe cutting some animation time somewhere).

Keep it up.

I just realized the list is actually there already xD You just need to put win and losses in different colors.
1535  Local / Mercato valute / Re: [COMPRO] Bitcoin con Paysafecard on: June 03, 2013, 05:23:59 PM
Non ho presente come funzioni quella carta, ma se puoi effettuare una ricarica postepay (anche senza averla, si puo' ricaricare alle poste o da un tabaccaio) dai un occhio al mio thread di vendita (vedi firma). Ciao.
1536  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▌█【VENDO】【COMPRO】█【TOP SELLER】█[BITCOIN][ALTRE]█[POSTEPAY etc]█ ▌◄ 347-1724214 ► on: June 03, 2013, 03:58:34 PM
ghibly controlla pm

Sì, ti ho risposto, avevo un attimo chiuso scusa Wink
1537  Local / Mercato valute / Re: ▌█【VENDO】【COMPRO】█【TOP SELLER】█[BITCOIN][ALTRE]█[POSTEPAY etc]█ ▌◄ 347-1724214 ► on: June 03, 2013, 03:12:43 PM
A te, alla prossima.
1538  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting on: June 03, 2013, 02:34:01 PM
How many posts to full member btw ^^'?

[Edit] there it is.
1539  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting on: June 03, 2013, 02:33:24 PM
Even 14 one time (free reply to get 100 posts Grin ).
1540  Economy / Gambling / Re: PrimeDice.com | The New Way to Roll | 1% House | Instant Betting on: June 03, 2013, 02:32:37 PM
I think I am done with PrimeDice  Undecided

another 8 outta 10 roll loss streak.

I got some 13 loss streaks on coinroll before xD Thx God I wasn't betting hard and stopped the martingale progression halfway, and recovered it later.... ^^''
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