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1521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta on: July 30, 2014, 01:26:19 AM
I hope you all realize that this would dilute EXO's value in the long run for a temporary "token".

The only winner here will be NXT., one of the main competitors

Don't fall for it.

Just be patient, and don't let your impatience water down something that could be great when released.

How exactly would it dilute anything.

NEM got a huge boost in interest from the listing. If they still had nothing to trade, the interest would slowly fade away. Like it at this moment does for eXo.

Saying that it would only benefit NXT is BS. It would even hurt the price of NXT as people would buy those tokens with their existing NXT and the previous eXo holders would obviously sell their NXT.

A listing would IMO increase the popularity of eXo by exposing it to ~6000 active NXT AE users and through the trading possibility make quite some news introducing eXo to other more people.

But that is not my decision to make.

(Yes I hold NXT, but also eXo, qora, NEM, NODE, crypti and nearly every other good 2.0 coin...)

"Oh look EXO in on the NXT AE, let's buy NXT!"  NXT price goes up. (Just like NEM)

"Oh look EXO is going up, let's dump it to this whale" EXO price goes down (Just like NEM)

"Oh look at all the EXO I have and I'm a whale, I will manipulate the market."  Now it will be expensive, people will lose trust in the project and start to ignore it.

IMO it's not a good idea, I say just keep it the way things are.  You want to make a lot of money? It doesn't happen overnight, time and patience is required. Which the a lot of people in the crypto community lack.

Besides, why not wait? Unless you plan on becoming a whale of EXO yourself.

It'll be a lot more fair if we keep things the way they are

It is a free market. Preventing people from trading their investment is not a wise decision in my opinion, mostly because the promised timeframe was pushed several times.

This shouldn't be dicided by a few individuals anyway, put it to a vote or let anon make an exacutive decision.
1522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | 750 BTC goal is reached! on: July 30, 2014, 12:45:58 AM
any guidance at all?  is it hours?  or days?  no rush, just curious.

We want to make sure everything is ready on Bter side, over-caps are refunded, and Maxmint buyers had the opportunity to transfer their stakes to Bter, hence it will be couple of days.

You see, that was what I was looking for.

Couple of days =/= soon, very soon , soonish

Anyway, now my mind can atleast rest..

There are some serious time zone differences between China and Colorado and Western Russia.  I doubt if there is much overlap in work hours, so communication has to be done after work hours for someone, or answered the next day.

If you ever had to deal with employees or customers that were 10 time zones away, you would understand.

Actually I do, but it should be possible to give a rough timeframe instead of saying SOON, VERY SOON and SOONISH over and over. After the whole complaining, suddenly it was possible to say " as few days".

I bet I wasn't the only one who thought this launch might even be tonight...
1523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta on: July 30, 2014, 12:43:00 AM
I hope you all realize that this would dilute EXO's value in the long run for a temporary "token".

The only winner here will be NXT., one of the main competitors

Don't fall for it.

Just be patient, and don't let your impatience water down something that could be great when released.

How exactly would it dilute anything.

NEM got a huge boost in interest from the listing. If they still had nothing to trade, the interest would slowly fade away. Like it at this moment does for eXo.

Saying that it would only benefit NXT is BS. It would even hurt the price of NXT as people would buy those tokens with their existing NXT and the previous eXo holders would obviously sell their NXT.

A listing would IMO increase the popularity of eXo by exposing it to ~6000 active NXT AE users and through the trading possibility make quite some news introducing eXo to other more people.

But that is not my decision to make.

(Yes I hold NXT, but also eXo, qora, NEM, NODE, crypti and nearly every other good 2.0 coin...)
1524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | 750 BTC goal is reached! on: July 29, 2014, 11:53:25 PM
any guidance at all?  is it hours?  or days?  no rush, just curious.

We want to make sure everything is ready on Bter side, over-caps are refunded, and Maxmint buyers had the opportunity to transfer their stakes to Bter, hence it will be couple of days.

You see, that was what I was looking for.

Couple of days =/= soon, very soon , soonish

Anyway, now my mind can atleast rest..
1525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | 750 BTC goal is reached! on: July 29, 2014, 11:52:28 PM
Again with this BS: "SooN" "very soon".

How about an ETA or timer? I hate this...

Devs do not manage Bter so they do not know when trading starts. When/if Bter share with them this information they'll let us know.

Why not communitcate this?

If I run a company that just collected nearly half a million USD, I'd try to post accurate statements and not words like soon , soonish and very soon. People don't like that and might get aggressive...

Devs can't piss Bter off by emailing them every hour asking when they're starting trading. And Bter have lots of things to take care except Crypti to keep devs updated every 30 minutes.

Sure, but they said nowhere that it depends on bter.

Anyway, I got the feeling that the communication is poor, but maybe it is just me..
1526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | 750 BTC goal is reached! on: July 29, 2014, 11:42:19 PM
Again with this BS: "SooN" "very soon".

How about an ETA or timer? I hate this...

Devs do not manage Bter so they do not know when trading starts. When/if Bter share with them this information they'll let us know.

Why not communitcate this?

If I run a company that just collected nearly half a million USD, I'd try to post accurate statements and not words like soon , soonish and very soon. People don't like that and might get aggressive...
1527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta on: July 29, 2014, 11:39:31 PM
I wouldn't mind it too. Sounds practical.
1528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: July 29, 2014, 11:39:11 PM
Does anyone know who looks after the NXt Reddit (Berzerk?)

TeamWealth , me and Berzerk.

Why?
1529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | 750 BTC goal is reached! on: July 29, 2014, 11:36:24 PM
Again with this BS: "SooN" "very soon".

How about an ETA or timer? I hate this...
1530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] - Which exchange should leonArdo support next? on: July 29, 2014, 11:34:38 PM
Add Nxt Multigateway, almost decentrlaised trading exchange   Grin

+++

Tried to add Nxt Multigateway, but it doesn't get added. Is there a limit of only 9 items in a poll Huh



There were polls with >50 items in that poll. So I guess not.

I think multigateway will have its own trading bots. Tradebots (the asset formerly known as NXTcoinsco) >>>> https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/nxtcoinsco-nodecoin-svmcoin-and-more-coins/msg71530/#msg71530

Vote ccedk instead Smiley

NXT will still need someone to arbitrage between NXT AE and other sites.
1531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] - Which exchange should leonArdo support next? on: July 29, 2014, 10:09:59 PM
Add Nxt Multigateway, almost decentrlaised trading exchange   Grin

+++

Tried to add Nxt Multigateway, but it doesn't get added. Is there a limit of only 9 items in a poll Huh



There were polls with >50 items in that poll. So I guess not.
1532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | 750 BTC goal is reached! on: July 29, 2014, 10:07:54 PM
Prediction: 2250satoshis per coin!

First trade, average first day price, lowest sale,or highest sale?  Be specific.

it will trade around this price after the bigger volatility settles.
1533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | 750 BTC goal is reached! on: July 29, 2014, 10:02:24 PM
Prediction: 2250satoshis per coin!
1534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta on: July 29, 2014, 07:55:43 PM
With all the delay, we should have exo on Nxt exchange a couple of months ago when anon was willing to issue the asset for it.  It would have been better for exo.

I think we are still few months off from release, given what exo posted two days ago about what more needs to be done before the launch (like code review, which can take months, and will cost money). 

 Anyone wants anon to release Exo tokens on Nxt exchange?

+1
+2

Send anon a message and invite to this thread. He will issue an asset and we transfer out stakes to it. We can contribute 1000 Nxt transaction fee

He said that he won't be doing this, and I can understand this. It is very cumbersome and much extra work. If he does it, then only for a big cut of the action (5% or so) I bet.

He actually wanted to this 2 months ago, but people in this thread said no as it was supposed to launch soon.



Oh wow, I guess he changed his mind. I missed that.

If this is still valid then from his side, I say: Go for it!


Where did you see him change his mind? It can't that hard.


He declined transfering eXo for trades from one person to others, multiple people asked him. Also IIRC he was asked a few months back if he wants to list it on NXT ae and he said that he won't be doing that.

But maybe my mind plays some tricks on me Wink
1535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: July 29, 2014, 07:54:11 PM
For some kind of reason he deletes all his posts in this topic, very weird...

Edit: after some research, I know why he deletes his bashing posts:

https://bitcointa.lk/search/9607/

He does this to many coins, with very very weak english.... I don't get it..
1536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Crypti | Launch August | 100% POS | New Source | 750 BTC goal is reached! on: July 29, 2014, 07:50:35 PM
Devs pls set in OP countdown to start of trading.

yes please. I always miss launches because of ninja announcements...
1537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta on: July 29, 2014, 07:43:19 PM
With all the delay, we should have exo on Nxt exchange a couple of months ago when anon was willing to issue the asset for it.  It would have been better for exo.

I think we are still few months off from release, given what exo posted two days ago about what more needs to be done before the launch (like code review, which can take months, and will cost money). 

 Anyone wants anon to release Exo tokens on Nxt exchange?

+1
+2

Send anon a message and invite to this thread. He will issue an asset and we transfer out stakes to it. We can contribute 1000 Nxt transaction fee

He said that he won't be doing this, and I can understand this. It is very cumbersome and much extra work. If he does it, then only for a big cut of the action (5% or so) I bet.

He actually wanted to this 2 months ago, but people in this thread said no as it was supposed to launch soon.



Oh wow, I guess he changed his mind. I missed that.

If this is still valid then from his side, I say: Go for it!
1538  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make $7000 A Week on: July 29, 2014, 07:39:45 PM
I find it hilarious, that most people ITT think they can exploit such opportunities faster than bots that are programmed to do that 24/7 with a reaction time of a few ms.

Moving fiat across exchange takes time.

The fiat part of transfering money is not really part of the arbitrage. The important part is executing the trade fast and without/little slippage. Sure if Fiat takes ages to move around, then your expected value will decrease over a given time frame, but the absolute% return of the arbitrage trade isn't depending on this.
1539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta on: July 29, 2014, 07:37:22 PM
With all the delay, we should have exo on Nxt exchange a couple of months ago when anon was willing to issue the asset for it.  It would have been better for exo.

I think we are still few months off from release, given what exo posted two days ago about what more needs to be done before the launch (like code review, which can take months, and will cost money). 

 Anyone wants anon to release Exo tokens on Nxt exchange?

+1
+2

Send anon a message and invite to this thread. He will issue an asset and we transfer out stakes to it. We can contribute 1000 Nxt transaction fee

He said that he won't be doing this, and I can understand this. It is very cumbersome and much extra work. If he does it, then only for a big cut of the action (5% or so) I bet.
1540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NXT] Nxt - Official Thread on: July 29, 2014, 07:26:50 PM


what? this non-existent 'coin' is still here?

Still here, still not have any real coins, just hype.

What exactly is it, that you cannot hope to believe about NXT?  Initial distribution and premine? The lack of POW and incompetence of dev?

So tell me, how are devs incompetent?

As far as I can see, NXT has developed greatly over the last 6 months releasing a dozen of new features, that no-one was able to exploit until now..
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