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1521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey on: December 11, 2023, 07:44:25 AM
a cigarette addict can stop when he experiences something that has a bad impact, for example a cigarette addict suddenly stops smoking after feeling pain in his chest and this is the same as a gambling addict who will stop immediately when something happens such as losing all valuables and money lost in gambling and that when he will stop suddenly and have the thought of stopping not to gamble anymore and only by stopping immediately can a gambling addict really get rid of his addiction because if it is done slowly, people mindset usually changes quickly and they can start gambling again.

Gambling addiction happens to be the worst kind of addiction with no other ways of redirecting the addiction. Unlike the physical feelings of pain in some parts of the body, gambling addiction requires mental stability to get hold and stop gradually. If a gambler isn't prepared to stop gambling, even when he's not addicted it'll take some time until he'll think about stopping gambling. The same applies to the addicts. Like I said, the addiction is mentally dealing with the gambler, and sometimes they don't feel the impact and how low in funds they've gone. Instead, they try to gamble more and engage in illicit activities, lying to family members, to raise money to gamble again. Running out of funds doesn't stop addicts from gambling. It can only stop a nonaddict. When a person is addicted to something, nothing stops them, they can't sleep or have fun without participating in gambling or whatever it is that led them to addiction. That's why we hear numerous stories of gamblers who hurt themself after taking loans to gamble.

A lot of addicted gamblers require lots of external help to change. There is nothing their self-control can do to help the mental problem addiction has caused the player. Do you know that sometimes the gambler gets to understand he's addicted, but feels confused about the gravity pushing him to gamble any time he's got money in his palms? Gambling addiction seems like the worst form of addiction, as the addict thinks he's doing something that could fetch him money. The other addictions don't promise money to their victims, hence they can restrict their emotions from repeating that same thing. Some drug addicts, wake up one money and decide to stop taking drugs. But, a gambling addict is unsure whether he's addicted or not. So, while the addicts work towards going cold turkey, the newbies should endeavor not to fall into the same trap, in their course of venturing into gambling.
1522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one you are good at? on: December 11, 2023, 06:50:25 AM
I'd say managing my bankroll is what I'm currently good at, as it's completely under my control. Unlike predicting games, that always changes to negative results before the game is over. Judging from the recent results of big teams losing their games. Many players lose their predictions and don't understand why a team like Arsenal won't be able to score a single goal. I'd play clubs like Arsenal to score, not to win, but the game results don't fit into any of those categories. Imagine millions of people who would stake Arsenal to score. They'll all lose their money. So, since the money management depends on the gambler, it's better to bet a small amount on such games than wagering too much hoping to win big. However, the regret comes when the team ends up winning the game. The gambler will feel greedy, and think he would have won bigger rewards if he wagered more money. Sometimes the risk is worth it, and another way around it's safe to manage our funds. Instead of losing out on a game that'll consume a huge portion of our savings.
1523  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 10, 2023, 10:51:27 PM
I don't regret it as I never felt bad gambling except the few times that I overdid it.I know it is my responsibility to behave correctly,to know when to quit and not go deep down to lose money I cannot afford to lose as that would only bring negative consequences.Based on this I think that it depends on people character,the ones with a weak one most probably regret it a lot while the people with strong character are the ones who don't care what happens to them as they are strong enough to overcome any situation no matter how bad it can be.
Anyone whose intention is to gamble be it for fun/entertainment or as a source of alternative income which is not encouraged should spend more time planning, scaling, setting limits, researching, and executing in Small Amounts. And Loosing first time lots of money is a good lesson. Loosing at first will leave you with a lasting impression and lesson about gambling that winning at first. Do not ever keep gambling without a strategy put in place.

While it depends on different categories of people, we need to understand the type of gamblers who fall for these mistakes of regretting the act of gambling. The lonely players tend to regret gambling, newbies without strategies also regret failing too many times in gambling, and those with a lack of self-control. Many other people can regret gambling, but we can interlink them according to their behaviors and childhood neighborhoods or even family rules. Some kids who grew up around gamblers, even without research, would think gambling is quite a good money-making method. If the player doesn't win enough money or loses his money he'll feel a rush of regret on his brain. Some might end up crying or feeling deep remorse for spending their money with no caution. Hence, I'd say that those with strong character, are responsible gamblers who play to enjoy the process. And doesn't care whether they'd win or lose. This means that such a player already budgeted some money for gambling and it won't affect his financial responsibility. While those who regret gambling, may be close to problem gambling, they still need some gambling orientation like putting a strategy in place, before gambling.

Moreover, a gambler with a strong character can still regret his action, if he's faced with some problems, which led him to gamble irresponsibly. It's rare to maintain our self-control in all situations or conditions in life. Many people who never gambled for the first time, spent money in gambling because of a piece of sad news or depression. And the gambler with a strong character isn't exempted. As gamblers, we can't detect for sure, when we'll make a mistake or have a problem gambling. And when that happens, we have to regret our actions. The major problem is having to regret every single time we gamble. Which isn't great, but sometimes every gambler will regret making a gambling mistake. Hence, my advice would be for gamblers to control their actions or decisions, not to repeat a mistake over and over again.
1524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: With gambling, it's probably easier to quit cold turkey on: December 10, 2023, 10:20:21 PM
Quitting cold turkey, contemplating on your mistakes and talking about it with a group and some experts sounds like the best path. What are your thoughts? Could a problem gambler quit slowly and expect realistic improvements?

Gambling addiction is not just something that starts when someone just jumps into gambling; it is something that they gradually get themselves into, and most times they don't even realise when they have gotten to that point.
 
When you talk about slowing down and quitting gambling, which could lead to a reduction in gambling addiction, it's easier said than done. As long as the person is still in contact with a gambling platform, they will still not gamble above their limit, which is still no different from what they were doing before.
 
In my opinion, the best thing they can do to stop gambling addiction is to stop gambling completely for the main time, and when they notice they are no longer attracted to gambling anymore, you will completely know that they are off it. If by any chance they still want to gamble, they will have to undergo some self-training in controlling their own aspects of their gambling habits and staying within their bankroll.


That will be before they get addicted to gambling. When addicted the gambler can't stay without gambling. It all depends on the lifestyle of the gambler, where and who he spends his time with can help the player to change. But, it's wrong to say that an addict will instantly stop being addicted to gambling. If he's not getting help, the addiction will improve every single day. Especially, when he's alone and doesn't communicate with anybody about his problem. He'll be able to quit slowly if he's sincere enough to change, and controls his urge to gamble. Which is not simple to achieve. It has to do with mental health, not physical ability. Sometimes he thinks his friends will laugh at him for getting addicted, and won't open up to them. Many factors have made addicted players remain addicted, some try to claim all is fine when with other people. Friends who struggle with addiction and don't feel like sharing their problems can be detected by his recent livelihood. Does he cancel evening hangouts, stay broke often, and feel stress and anxiety all the time?

We must visit the person and have a close conversation with them, asking them questions about what's taking up their time. Although, the questions should be asked the right way, or he won't share any reasonable answer.

If he opens up, our contributions should be effective in changing the person. The gambler wants to change, but can't on his own, so if we show him that it's possible to change, he'll confide in us as a friend. Introducing them to a therapist works fine, yet can be stressful. If the client and therapist relationship doesn't seem strong. The therapist needs to act like the addict's closest friend to be able to attract him to therapy. Or he'd rather remain an addict than attend those sessions. We can also be a therapist to a gambler if he's our close friend and listens to our instructions. Limiting his bank account's daily expenses also helps in controlling the gambler's habit of spending much money on gambling. With all the processes required to cure an addict, especially in gambling, it's not an easy thing to go cold turkey in gambling.
1525  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap on: December 10, 2023, 09:35:13 PM
It's dangerous for gamblers who will think that they could repeat the same win over and over again. That could actually lead to gambling addiction because they are hoping over and over again and even if they are losing more they will try again because they already experience winning once or twice.
But correct, if a gambler is in control then this kind of trap is nothing to worry about. If we already accepted that it's going to be difficult to win against the house then we are okay. Only those who are too optimistic to think that they can defeat them with a large margin will be the ones who are in trouble.
I've experienced winning as a newbie and I already withdrawn the money from the gambling site and enjoyed all the profits with my kids. After that rest, I played back and luckily won again. Enjoyed that profit one more time until in the recent couple of months I am not able to win anymore. It's like everything I won was taken back and in my computation, most of the profits from before are almost equal to the losses in USD.
But that didn't make me a gambling addict, I still have control that whenever my budget is done, I will stop. That made me realize that gambling will take back what we won, it may take them a long time but they will claim it back slowly unless we get out of casino games.

The house takes everything we've won in gambling, you're right. Newbie gamblers fail to understand that competing with the house is quite demanding. And would eat up all their funds. Winning and withdrawing immediately sounds cool, but it'll be better to gamble a bit more, maybe twice, before taking the funds. Because if care is not taken the winner will wager all they've won and deposit more in the process of winning big. After the bank roll has been completely spent the gambler will feel sad for his mistakes. The problem revolves around every gambler who thinks they can win against the house. Those who gamble for fun have a better chance of winning than the loss-chasing gamblers. Who doesn't plan their money or time, while gambling? They also bring a bad name to the niche of gambling. As many hate gambling in society, because of the actions of addicted gamblers. Unless a person reads about gambling, they'll always see all gamblers as an irresponsible person. Due to their experiences with a loved one who has been abusing gambling. So, gamblers shouldn't believe in any win trap, they can only get lucky at some point, then withdraw money, like you, and move on. During their next gambling session, they can easily spend a few funds, if no win arrives, the player should stop and rest. Winning is not a must in gambling. Players who think it's a must to win in gambling will face deep trouble in gambling.
1526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can loneliness make one addicted to gambling on: December 10, 2023, 09:11:52 PM
Loneliness can lead ond to do several things, but for the csse of your friend, I won't call that loneliness, it's more than that. That's now depression. Depression has led people to become drugs and alcohol addicts.
When one is in that state they need something to help them pass the time, something that will take their minds off things. Some might go to drugs, others alcohol or like your friend alcohol.
First, he has to deal with his depression. As long as he's depressed he'll always have one form of addiction or the other. That's his own way of dealing with his wife leaving him so he has to deal with that rightly first before he can move on and put his addiction behind him.

Loneliness leads people to gambling, but they'll regret it in the long run, as their actions won't be rewarded, making the gambler feel sad. In the case of Op's friend, he's not supposed to be a gambler, but his wife's absence pushed him to gamble due to loneliness. Such things can be battled with different techniques or social events like playing sports games, meeting with old friends, attending shows, etc. Instead of gambling anytime we're bored, the person can think of something else. With Op's friend's condition, he'll need to gradually get a cure for his depression. But, it depends on the reason why his wife left. This leaves me with little facts on what to say regarding his addiction, as Op didn't mention all that, though, not necessary. However, if he had disputes with his wife before she left, then his depression would increase, causing him to gamble more than his bankroll.

The problem will be, putting his addiction behind him, as it'll seem impossible to control his addiction, while lonely. Who would be his companion, that can talk him into a different lifestyle? Even addicted gamblers with roommates still find it difficult to communicate their addiction to the next person. Hence, it's a hurt moment for the player. He'll find himself not feeling regrets for his actions, as he'll feel that's the only alternative to escaping his pains. Gamblers shouldn't let real-life problems affect their gambling attitude. Because many who out of heartbreaks, ventured into gambling have experienced difficulty or problem gambling. If he got addicted to another form of addiction, it would have been easier to switch habits. Gambling addicts, find it hard to get addicted to something else. Stressing the healing process of every gambling addict.
1527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: December 10, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
Of course, with 1% allocated you are not really worried about losing a lot of money because you have allocated 99% of your money to meet your living needs, in this case it means that you don't really prioritize gambling because what you prioritize is money for your needs.
At least with that 1% you can enjoy gambling and have fun without having to think about when you lose, where you are ready to lose that 1% and you can stop easily without having to deposit again to catch up on your losses.
By allocating 1% to gambling, of course you don't need to worry about being addicted to gambling because you have allocated 99% for your needs, not for gambling. If you are a gambling addict, maybe you will do the opposite.
By making an allocation, whatever the percentage, it must be adjusted to the amount of money you can afford so that you don't exceed the limits of what you can afford. This is to ensure that he does not lose a lot of money while gambling and that he can also fulfil his living needs well. With that percentage amount or one that has been adjusted to the amount of money he can afford, he can have fun well and will not think about winning or losing other than getting pleasure from gambling. And if he loses, he won't think about depositing any more money because he has already used his allocated funds for gambling. If he keeps depositing a certain amount of money, it means he is exceeding his limits, which could harm his financial position. And yes, by allocating a certain amount of money for gambling, he can avoid the possibility of gambling addiction, especially as many people have experienced this and it has become a serious problem that must be avoided by all gamblers who have not experienced gambling addiction.

Looking at the article you'd understand that it's not only limited to wagering 1%, the player is required to adjust according to the amount he earns each month or annually. This is a good strategy for gamblers to always manage their funds and lead a valuable gambling experience. Nothing is wrong in staking games with 1% of our income, regardless of how much we'd earn from gambling the little amount. It's better to depend on the money we earn from business than money made via gambling. As it's not a place to make money or earn a living. It's a bad decision to spend all the money we make from business or company in gambling hoping to triple our profits. The trauma such a decision can cause to a gambler would be enormous, as he won't withstand the number of losses attributed to gambling. However, not everyone would love to adhere to this type of advises, and they'll go ahead to wager more than they can lose. Affected in business productivity, the gambler would lose more; in gambling and income sources.

Wouldn't it be a severe problem for the gambler? Gamblers must follow instructions from gambling experts, as there is a reason why they devise such methods of coping with money management. Many have experienced the downside of loss of money control in gambling. And doesn't wish for somebody else to pass through similar disputes.

However, it's not easy to stick to those instructions, because we all enjoy gambling and would prefer to get more of the thrills. Then we forget that the thrill isn't a thrill if we end up regretting our actions. Now believing after the whole game, that the thrill was a trick, puts gamblers to another level of anxiety. Those who seize to practice what they've learned about gambling face more difficult times, and find it hard to give up the bad habit. As they wish to recover all the losses at one go, wagering more money for a jack pot. Which doesn't come easily, and before it arrives the gambler may have chattered his income and derailed productivity. Therefore, he becomes half addicted feels bittered about gambling, and is not able to help himself. Hence, whenever we gamble, it's important to manage the money we earn through businesses, then follow advice like OP's.
1528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I think gambling is inbuilt, kids don't learn it anywhere, they do it! on: December 10, 2023, 08:17:05 PM
In my opinion, gambling depends on the home environment and the environment where he plays with his friends, because if the environment and friends are good then his brain will definitely avoid gambling. However, if the place where you live and the environment is bad, many people gamble, then indirectly, if they have a track record, the people around them will also do the same. Not because of gambling advertisements scattered in the media, because if it happened because of gambling advertisements in the media the whole world would definitely gamble.
Of course a gambler's company plays an important role to make new gamblers. If someone has gambler friends in his environment then he will definitely become a gambler. Some may take more time and some may take less. But in most cases he will become a gambler. If a gambler wants to escape from gambling, he cannot withdraw from that environment. I have found that it is easy for gamblers to quit gambling if they can forget about it, but when close friends in one's environment are in constant contact with the gamblers, it is never possible to quit gambling. I agree that gambling advertising works far more than contacting gambling friends.

Gambling ads contribute to the dissemination of gambling in the society. Yet most people still don't venture into gambling after seeing those ads, because of their personal beliefs and understanding of gambling. The habit has bad publicity in society. So, we don't expect everybody to become gamblers. Another catalyst of gambling is the peers around the nongambler. People need to make money, and when they hear their friends talking about winning big through gambling they'll want to give it a try. Thereby, participating in a habit they don't have a prior understanding about. How easy does it seem to forget about gambling? Even when the player isn't with gamblers, he'll have his phone with him, nothing can stop him, other than his willpower. The bad publicity circulating in society regarding the disadvantages of gambling may have gotten to the ears of kids growing up. Which will lead them to ask or think about what gambling is about. Once they figure out it fetches money, they'll tend to try it while in an argument.

However, if addiction is hereditary, then the context of my thread is quite on point, as I don't understand how kids get to participate in gambling; locally. Who teaches them or do they learn from friends in school, can't explain. But, it'll leave me wondering how gambling habit is built. Lots of kids in a neighborhood where gamblers dwell must have had a relative who participates in gambling. That doesn't mean the child becomes a gambler, but there is a high possibility that the child, growing up will gamble one time in his life. So, those media advertisements can be secondary, word of mouth is the biggest form of advertisement. Especially in gambling, with addicted people getting in trouble every day. Parents will warn kids not to gamble. Remember that advice these days has different functions, it could help or destroy the person. If the child wants to know why his parents warn him against gambling, he'll gamble.
1529  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: December 10, 2023, 05:07:21 PM
If both of them are gamblers than maybe they should choose a game that suits both and the winner keeps on gambling while the loser has to quit. Gamblers should gamble over it, right?Cheesy
Consider the above only if you really have to choose one person to do it because IMO it's important to live in a healthy relationship. You don't want your wife to be sad and depressed because she lost against you and now has to quit gambling.

If we really had to do it, for instance to keep the kids out of it, we would be quitting together. Gambling shouldn't mean the world to you and you shouldn't put it above your family relations.
Either keep playing like you do and don't make it into a situation where only one of you has to quit, or quit together.

How about thinking of it from a perspective where both gamblers are experienced in gambling? One side doesn't have to feel bad for losing a few bucks in gambling. They both need to caution themselves on that. I'd say instead of quitting, they can play together and communicate about maintaining their habit. In your context, if the wife always has a mood swing after gambling, it's best to stop her, so that she won't get sad on the kids. They can still be playing, and maintain a rule of keeping the kids out of it. What is most important is to take the responsibility of the home most seriously. And gambling is a secondary priority. I prefer a family with both parents gamblers than one parent a gambler. In the later, the one person will hide his habit from his wife, just like most forum members testified, that they hide being a gambler from their wife. So, if the gambler loses a whooping amount, he'll lie to the wife about using it for something else. Which is not conducive to the growth of the family. On the contrary, both parents will easily flow together and watch each other gamble. Advising themselves on how much to stake each month. The kids won't find out about this unless their parents are compulsive gamblers, they can begin to suspect the chaos happening between their parents.
1530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 10, 2023, 04:37:38 PM
Even though you group two different types of gamblers, you need to know that both do not lead to anticipated losses because successful gamblers also experience bigger losses because they are always active in gambling, gambling is related to probability and luck which is closely related to the risk of loss and the more bets, the higher the losses, so change your mindset that gambling is not for chasing daily income but only for gambling for entertainment, avoid gambling addiction by limiting the funds used for gambling and choosing a type of gambling that has a chance of being won rather than slot gambling.
Every category of gamblers experience losses in one way or the other except they stop gambling els you can't be too smarter than the casino no matter how good you are or no matter how experienced you are with the casino, you must definitely suffer losses at some point but if you try to be too smart you may even suffer worse than expected.

Gambling shouldn't be seen as a place where you can get daily income as you may be disappointed by the possible outcome if you Chanel your mind in that direction, this will most likely make you chase losses because in a bid to get something out of gambling daily you may turn out to loose some money and not willing to accept such losses you will want to keep playing maybe you could be lucky to recover and gradually addiction creeps in and you get a second problem to deal with again.

If you look at it that way, it's a must to have everything. I mean it will be a combination of your skills and good self or emotional control. Being wise about knowing where to stop is always the best attitude when you are involved in this kind of industry. I see the point where gamblers do have that mindset that they can win, and they can make decent profits when playing / betting.

It's a kind of adrenaline that keeps on lingering inside you that you can have that chance to win over. If you can control that, it will lead you to a bad gambling habit or much known as addiction.

There is no other skill in gambling other than self-control and money management skills. Every other possibility or probability skill relies on luck. The self control and money management skill is on the gambler's decision. Professional gamblers who spend much time gambling, limit the time and money spent on gambling and don't lose control over changing their decision when they're losing or winning. However, some will spend more time if they win more money from the money limited to gambling. For instance, if a gambler wants to gamble with $200 for 2 days, he'll gamble $100 per day, hence allocating at least 5 hours each day for gambling. They'll have to play the game bit by bit until it gets to 5 hours. If eventually the gambler wins an extra $50, he can gamble more with the $50 he's won. Which won't affect his decision to gamble for two days. it'll only shift the 5 hours meant for gambling each day to at least an extra 2 hours making it 7 hours. When the money is exhausted, they'll stop gambling for the day. Because they're not there for the profits, the player doesn't care about those wins. He only gets happy because it'll buy him more time to gamble. I think it's what makes a successful gambler different from irresponsible gamblers, who will gamble more than the $200 set aside for gambling, in the adventure of making more wins. 
1531  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 10, 2023, 04:13:09 PM
Those who have regrets are those who risked a lot of money on gambling and they haven't make a lot to recover all they have spent, now they are all in regrets, you see, that's gambling for you and that's why it's not worth risking a lot of your money on.

I mostly take my time off gambling at times because of risk funds aren't available, my mind isn't always about what I will win you know, I only take risks on gambling when I can afford it, this way I already accept the possibility of losing the money.

If you can't afford to lose your money, you can either quit or lower the amount

Whenever a person does something they didn't plan on doing, they'll regret it, if the action doesn't have a positive impact. Gamblers who out of loneliness or boredom spend money in gambling will have regret or remorse. Especially when other neglected financial responsibilities begin to pop out of his mind. The blame goes to gambling, for taking all the money meant for other utilities. Hence, gamblers must have a rethink before gambling. Maybe, have other events to distract the mind from going to gamble. When in that condition, boredom, hanging out with friends are also an anti-dote for compulsive gambling, which may lead to problem gambling. Because, if they try to reduce the amount of gambling, the player still has control over the money, he can still increase it, till all his budgets get swept away. Even, during shopping, we do have a budget, but most of the time, it changes when we find ourselves in the mall. The same is true with gambling, discipline, and self-control matters. Those who lose control can windup the initial plan of spending a specific amount in gambling. There, the regrets begin to erupt.

Many criterion contributes to regrets in every gambler's experience. But, we all are expected to accept the responsibility of wagering money in gambling. The decision is ours and not of the casino. Blaming the casino or gambling for our mistake isn't helpful to the gambler. If a gambler blames himself, it'll help him avoid gambling much money next time. But, because they don't acknowledge their mistakes, the urge to repeat the same mistake can't be stopped or controlled. At least stopping when the initial funds, set aside for gambling, have been exhausted is a reasonable idea, in battling addiction. As you said, any gambler that's self-conscious of his gambling self-concept will not regret gambling, for any reason whatsoever. Some gamblers even when they can't afford to play, try as much as possible to do anything within their jurisdiction, including borrowing, to gamble. And if a gambler stops to regret his bad habit, I think he's already on his way to addiction.
1532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Behavioral Change!!! on: December 10, 2023, 02:21:11 PM
I am trying to wonder what is in the minds of those who vote “no” Cheesy How does gambling not have behavioral changes in the gambler?! When you gamble and win, are you the same? You’re just going to be unshaken? No. When you win, you may not jump up but you’ll feel a sense of excitement and joy. The same thing applies when you lose, people feel a sense of sadness, depression, etc. Even before you win or lose, anxiety can come in because you don’t know what it’s going to be. All of these affect your behavior and how to react within that moment.

It depends on the person, that's why people vote No. Every gambler has different ways of adapting to win or lose. Not all will easily get paranoid and transfer aggression to kids around them. Sometimes, it causes us to feel depressed about losing so much money, yet most gamblers don't lose money to such an extent. They stop along the line and rest or rethink their predicting strategies. Those who experience behavioral changes are mostly addicts. And if care isn't taken, the gambler won't stop being angry after losing money in gambling. It all has to do with our mental health. How the gambler was groomed as a child. Gambling could be what helped in developing such a bad attitude. Because you can't say people have not been spending money all their life. Why do they now get angry after spending money on gambling? Because they think it's a waste of money if the promised win doesn't arrive. Hence, it's safe to say that the type of gambler with behavioral change is chasing losses. It's quite disappointing not to win after a long chase. Although, the percentage of people who voted "no" is little, they're not wrong.
1533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: December 10, 2023, 01:35:34 PM
Both spouses should embrace the gambling habit and learn more about gambling. They'll have fun as a family. What matters is being able to prominently control the affairs of the family. It's not bad for gamblers to be married. Who then will stop gambling, it's not bad. Unless they're pruned to getting addicted, then it's of no use to continue gambling. The fun gets better when they both, visit offline casinos and lodge in hotels to gamble during vacations. I understand that in a family where kids are just growing, they'll need to focus more on disciplining their children, and also maintain a mutual understanding of not discussing gambling-related topics around the kids. Don't think it'll be right for them to stop gambling.

They both have jobs and should know how much to spend daily on gambling or set out an amount for monthly gambling. If their gambling habits begin to affect the family lifestyle, then it means they're getting something wrong. They can discuss ways of controlling money spent on gambling. Isn't it a nice experience for the gambler, who married a female gambler, or introduced his wife to gambling? Discussing with our wife about gambling and how to manage money. Gamblers need a companion to discuss, often their gambling attitude and encounters. One party can't get addicted without the next person being aware.

But, in families where the man is gambling, the wife won't be aware if their husband gets addicted. Thereby causing more harm to the success of the family, mentally, and financially.

provided that gambling is legalized in their country, then nobody is expected to quit. They'll be able to manage their bankrolls. I've read of a wife who is mainly interested in slot and the husband a poker player. They spend their vacations together in casinos and end up winning more money. Enjoy free hotel rooms, and food and get fun, as they're comp members. After their vacation, they'll go back home happy. In a family like Op described the kids seem to be young. In the long run, both spouses would appreciate being gamblers, if they maintain responsible gambling. But, OP, if they are currently undergoing any form of addiction, then open up in your thread. From what you wrote, nothing like that, you only care about their financial well-being. Which shouldn't bother you. They've figured out how to handle that aspect.




1534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap on: December 09, 2023, 09:01:38 PM
What I experienced when I first started gambling was that I was not given a win and often I lost, and the win that I got was a process and the win happened in the long term.
However, the first thing I feel in gambling is curiosity, and when I lose I feel curious and hope that on the next bet I will win. And when I win I feel addicted and keep betting in the hope that on the next bet I will win again, and these two things make me continue gambling where actually after I realize I lose more than I win.
But that has passed and has become a lesson for me and now I just gamble for fun with sufficient capital with a little hope that luck will come. If I'm unlucky, and the little capital I have prepared runs out, then I stop.

The early wins trigger the gambler to play more games, even when faced with consecutive losses. Gamblers shouldn't mind the thrills of winning and stop when they feel their money has gone so much into gambling. Ending our bankroll in one day isn't a reasonable gambling strategy. With limitations, a gambler can gamble for weeks without running out of bankrolls. It's good you worked towards money management. Many newbies have been victims of running broke through gambling. Which isn't ideally a sensible way of gambling. The aim of participating in gambling is to be able to know our predicting level. Excellent gamblers don't find it difficult to face life, because they know of the benefits of gambling. Being able to understand, decisions to make in real life. The casino devises different strategies for gamblers, to make more profits for their gambling business. Hence, gamblers are expected to have unique strategies, to avoid the deceits of the gambling house. Some gamblers fall for the strategies of the house, which is giving out few wins, to keep the gambler rolling. Hoping to hit a big win. Then, they'll end up losing out every fund they've won, in one sitting.
1535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for newbies on: December 09, 2023, 09:59:30 AM
By patience, do you mean waiting or continuing playing till they get a win? It sounds that way, but leaving the computer would be better advice for the gambler.
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Leaving the computer might make you calm down and help to make more rational decisions (including not to bet more then you can lose), but it doesn't really help with the outcome of the gambling. Unless you are doing sports bets and got bored of waiting for good opportunities

It won't help with the outcome of the gambling nor will it contribute to a better prediction. But, it helps in saving the gambler from losing more money or being exposed to gambling addiction. Because as a newbie, they'll be tempted to win, at all odds. Not talking about sports betting, but other games like slots. Most people lose huge amounts of money, trying to win back, what they've lost. So, whenever a gambler is getting to a point where they don't know whether to continue playing or stop, instead of looking at the screen and waiting for the right decision, isn't it better to close the computer and take a rest? Because at that moment the gambler isn't enjoying his habit anymore. I'll put it to a halt. Because my next moves wouldn't be calculated and may cause losses. Then, the gambler is introduced to compulsive gambling as a result of the anxiety from consecutive losses.

Many gamblers continue playing even when they don't enjoy it anymore. They're now like kids begging to get their cookies back after willingly gifting them to an elder brother, who already ate the cookies. The child ends up angry and cries himself out. The same applies to gamblers, they lose more trying to gain the lost money, which was willingly used to play game. Thereby ending the initial fun. Sports betting is somehow helpful, as the gambler would have to wait or watch the games. Slot isn't like that, it consumes time, money, and brain power. And newbies play slots because it doesn't require much skill to play slots. They're only required to click on the play button and wait for the results; win or lose. The instant results, like Esport players, contribute in developing problem gambling.
1536  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to know penalties are about to be played in football matches on: December 09, 2023, 09:21:17 AM
It'll be hard to get such an app that does that, but watching penalty shootouts is interesting. However, I was expecting you wanted to gamble or stake games on different games hoping that they'll play penalties. If it's what you need, you can watch penalty shootouts after 90 minutes, then predict from results or record, teams that usually tend to play penalty. Teams with the most rough defenders, easily get penalty shootouts. However, your topic sounds more like how to know if a team will play a penalty, from the way the game goes, then you'll predict. In such a situation, we can predict penalty if an attacker is moving too fast into the 18-yard box, but the defenders always slide to intercept the ball. There'll be a high chance of a penalty shootout in the game. Reading further, the context of the thread changed, where you only wish to watch live penalties in every soccer game around the globe. Switching from one game to another doesn't seem enjoyable to me. Thinking of a better way to achieve that, is by staying active on social media platforms where football games are analyzed. Yet someday, in all games played that very day, there wouldn't be any penalty shoot-out, . It's better to watch a documentary of penalty shootouts on YouTube channels, as what you want can be very stressful. But, it's quite a nice initiative to develop an App that solves such a problem, if none exists.
1537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: December 09, 2023, 08:58:35 AM
People who are wise in gambling, they can control themselves when they win or lose, because with self-control they are able to limit their own gambling.

If you can control yourself when gambling, you will definitely avoid gambling addiction. We know that addiction is difficult to cure, which is why it is important to manage your emotions and control yourself when gambling. Don't be reckless in taking unnecessary actions when gambling, for example trying to recover money lost from losses. because it will only continue to drain more of the money we have.

That's why it's important to play responsibly and wisely in limiting bets when gambling so that you don't go beyond the limits which will end up playing emotionally and seem careless. Gambling is not just about money and winnings, but taking advantage of it. The most important thing is to always limit every budget and Time when gambling is very important to limit yourself.

Avoiding gambling addiction is actually easy if we have boundaries and a strong stance on gambling, it's just that many people can't control themselves so they can't limit themselves in gambling making them addicted to chasing their lost money. the possibility of those who do not have gambling restrictions, they are easily attracted to gambling so they don't think about the risk of losing a lot of money. It is unfortunate that they are already addicted to gambling, of course this is not a good thing if they are already addicted to gambling. So we should gamble reasonably not to exceed the obvious limits that will harm us. As much as possible we should be able to have limits in gambling because that can help us ourselves not with others.

Many things will be harmed if you are addicted to gambling. Gambling addiction can occur because they cannot control their emotions when they lose, because they cannot accept the defeat they get makes them irresponsible in gambling. No one else is influential in gambling, because other people can only give advice the rest of the full control is in us. So it's best to accept advice and input from others for consideration so as not to become addicted to gambling.

Your last line is important in neglecting gambling addiction. I mean, there've been millions of pieces of advice circulating the net about how to handle or avoid gambling addiction. But, lots of people still fall for it, we'll blame it on gamblers who don't read the advice or aren't knowledgeable about the information. yet others who read this information on gambling precautions still get addicted, leaving therapists with the conclusion that, the cause of gambling addiction could be unknown as any gambler could get addicted. The control is in us, like you said, the whole thing depends on the gambler. Hence, we must practice what we've read, while gambling. Instead, it won't be of help to us.
1538  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risking 1% in Gambling on: December 09, 2023, 08:30:50 AM
You decide to gamble with the amount of money you can afford to lose but I never want to lose my money by gambling. I have earned even one percent of my total money so I definitely don't want to lose even one percent of my money by gambling.

So does your statement implies that you are anti gambling? If so, then there's no reason for you even participate in the gambling discussion as your statement is more like discouraging people because of the possibility of losing. No offense, but gambling is not about losing that you'll have to spend for it, it's about enjoying, getting the entertain and you are willing to risk money for that, even if you lose.

His opinion is owned by him, but he sounds like a careful person, who doesn't want to lose a dime in gambling. Why he's here in the first place, may he be preparing or reading to know more about gambling? A person may not be interested in paying to watch a football match, but he can stay around those who discuss football. And he's completely welcome to participate in this discussion. Even if his points or response ain't valid, we also need his abstract comment to understand that not everyone thinks like everyone else in the discussion. Which balances the discussion and turns it into an argument. However, paying 1% of our income is not too much to ask, as we spend lots of money to maintain other responsibilities in life. Hence, anybody who feels like getting relief through gambling after a stressful day, week, or month. Can easily gamble for pleasure and revive themselves for a better performance the next week.

However, not all humans understand the importance of gambling, they think it's a waste of money. But, fail to remember that they also spend money on hotels, drinks, etc. Even those other ones don't have any possibility of rewarding the buyer with money. I understand he wants to stay safe and doesn't want to get involved in gambling because of all he's heard about gambling. It's good, instead of becoming one, which might get addicted to the habit. Everyone is entitled to what they choose to do with their time and money. Hence, no need to think he's anti-gambling, if he is, he wouldn't be here. And a person who gets discouraged due to his response also isn't on the wrong side. Gambling is a free-will activity, as the risk is enormous. Although the goal is not preventing people from gambling. If someone is unsure about their ability to manage gambling-related problems like addiction and financial loss, they can choose not to participate.
1539  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe you can win on sports betting by analyzing a betting lines only? on: December 09, 2023, 08:02:43 AM
In sports gambling, following analyses is great, until the game ends in a score contrary to our predictions. Some people follow a historical approach, but it's not 100% accurate. During the Arsenal and Luton town games, many people played Luton to win Arsenal, because they've read that, in the history of football, Arsenal never won Luton in Luton's home stadium. Along the line, it seemed like Luthon would win and they felt so happy, then in the last 1 minute Arsenal changed their predictions and they lost. The bookmakers also added more odds on Luton to win Arsenal. While it's good to analyze games, following the recent changes in the league is crucial. In the premier league for instance, instead of playing a particular team to win, it's better to bet on both teams to score. Or bet on more than 3 goals to be scored in the match.

Because smaller teams with low chances of winning, can defeat a big team with all the possible facilities needed to win; fit players and many consecutive wins. If you watched the Luton game, you'd notice that Arsenal almost lost the game. And the same thing had a tough time with Liverpool. Who would ever believe that Luton town would be a turn in the flesh of Arsenal fans and players that day? Analyses work but don't play a particular team to win another. Play based on the results you noticed within the past few games. Premier League games are easier to predict regarding goals predictions; goals, 4 goals to be scored, etc, but more difficult when we predict a particular team to win. Unless you won't watch the game, it makes me uncomfortable.
1540  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling? on: December 09, 2023, 07:44:30 AM
No matter how early, regret always comes late. Gambling is one activity that has the highest publicity. From childhood, people hear about gambling or see elderly people winning big in gambling. And the news circulates in the neighborhood. It'll be hard to grow up in a gambling-legalized country, and won't get to know gambling. However, knowing about gambling is also different from engaging in gambling. However, people who participate in gambling and have misbehaved due to their lack of gambling control, then battle with addiction, will regret knowing about gambling. But the common circulation of regrets after losses by a gambler doesn't sound strong to me, as they'll go back to gamble again. Most gamblers only have to regret it for a few days and don't understand why they're gambling again. Hence, when people regret being gamblers, they don't stop gambling in the long run. Staying close to gamblers, even as gamblers, at some point, we regret playing gambling with the money we would have used for some other things. I think it's mainly part of the fun. Humans are like that. After a bad experience, we'll say we are not interested, anymore, in a particular habit. But find our self engaging in the same habit again.
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