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1521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 12, 2015, 06:50:50 PM
This is not true. Darksend was closed source until RC5 in August/September 2014, when the source code was released. The rest of the Darkcoin source was open, but the Darksend portion was closed until Aug/Sept 2014. I helped write the official press release about Darksend being open-sourced, so I remember it well =)

and I think that worked out well, don't you?  I mean, we did have a bunch of complainers/trolls again, saying you can't close source it, but it is after all a company, Dash is, and we should use tactics that protect our intellectual property until it's needed to be open sourced, which is required to be taken seriously in the crypto world for good reason.  Still, while working on it, we don't need to let everyone see what we're doing.  We can hide until the big reveal just like Apple does.

There are no plans to close source anything. We're just going to build it privately, then open source it as soon as we launch  Smiley.
Sounds good, so Dash maintains first-mover advantage without the calls of "closed-source!" which at one time were louder than "instamine!".  Smiley
1522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 12, 2015, 03:58:44 PM
So I was going to vote and I dont know how, did not find a guide on dashtalk in the guide section,
evan uses this vote many command that i have not setup (have to figure that one out someday)

so im voting on each indivitual masternode,

this does not work: mnbudget vote-many d06d273364938cd2083d6f46264c05d38ff7b96c5705604e709f2b4a0e26e0e3 yes

Do i do this on my cold or hot wallet ?

a idiots guide would be good  Tongue
Hot wallet.

./dash-cli mnbudget vote ... yes/no

Vote-many requires a masternode.conf.

1523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 12, 2015, 05:34:31 AM
1524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 11, 2015, 12:10:30 AM

It mustn't be too hard to include voting in the GUI client, or even to have a client only for masternode owners. Dashwhale looks great and I'm sure it is very convenient for those that use it, but I think for something as important as decentralised governance of an anonymous cryptocurrency, a trustless solution would be ideal.

Yes, but the work has already been done. Dashwhale pushes out notifications, encrypts your genkey for voting safety, has a new incident log for each user, and keeps churning out the innovation.

Well, I've heard Visa are already processing millions of transactions a day... why should we bother continuing with this project..?

Just because a centralized MN services solution has been created doesn't mean that we shouldn't push towards integrating the features of dashwhale into the core client at protocol level..

Walter

Sure, but the devs are busy (obviously) and in the meantime this is an available tool to the less-than-ultra-tech-savvy club of MN owners, which apparently includes toknormal and myself. If you think MN's should only be run by geeks, then not a lot of real investment is going to happen here.

Services like Dashwhale and Node40 demystify and simplify the process of MN ownership/voting and throwing out some Visa quote like I'm an idiot doesn't really move the conversation forward.

I'm only saying: "Give them a chance, they're an excellent service to help bring in new MN owners and to help existing owners to have a voice in the voting process".



I politely disagree. I don't suggest for one minute that you're an idiot.. Please don't think that my intention is to insult your intelligence  Smiley My point is that we shouldn't give up on creating a number of decentralized services within the Dash ecosystem just because we already have 'excellent' centralized services that are available. Dashwhale is great (I'm a happy member), however, any service like this ultimately goes against what we're trying to achieve...

I suppose it's a complex argument but what happens when dashwhale becomes 'the google' for masternode services? It becomes indispensable to us MN owners... Do we - as masternode owners - continue to cede to potential demands in the future for more blockchain funds to ensure these 'vital' services continue to be run? regardless of the marginal cost of producing the service the 'owner' of dashwhale could legitimately demand dash funding in excess of their needs in order to profit - is this acceptable? My post is not to judge either way... It is merely to discuss the complexities of the subject.

Maybe decentralization only matters at the 'top tier' as Evan would say...? the rest of the sub-ecosystem can be as centralized as many real world services with a true market dynamic in place with profit the primary motive?

Discuss. Grin

Walter






Centralized services will always be created. Some will be very useful and valuable. However, the ultimate goal for Dash as a currency should be decentralize, decentralize, decentralize to avoid the single points of failure. This is the whole point of crypto. Development should always continue on the core protocol no matter how convenient centralized services seem.

And decentralized development doesn't have to mean complicated. Masternode maintenance and duties can be made to be easier as Dash refines.
1525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 10, 2015, 10:03:40 PM
I will add my two cents on the DashWhale proposal. I think that it is a service that is optional, so the people who choose to use that site and enjoy it's benefits should pay for that experience.

Asking for DGBB money just seems wrong when a majority of Dash community members are not using it. Proposals should be used to directly benefit Dash. There is not a lot of money right now, and we need to get the most bang for our buck out of it.

Don't get me wrong, I love DashWhale, but it is just one website, not THE website, and as such should generate it's own funding.
1526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 09, 2015, 09:20:28 PM
So much wrong in your last post.

It certainly wasn't worth deleting and reposting, which just proves that this is all a game to you.

How sad and pathetic your life must be, fighting a losing battle against a legit project, having your main investment tank, and getting owned over your BS arguments time and time again.

On top of that, all the real Dash work is done away from this thread. Dash has grown up and expanded to beyond the little world of BCT.

You should grow up as well. Put the broken iPod out of its misery, and rethink your life, because you really come across as one hell of a dick here.
1527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 08, 2015, 06:01:38 AM
wat is DASH?  Wink
Dash is digital cash! An exciting and dynamic cryptocurrency, where there is never a dull moment. The Dash team is not only reinventing crypto, it is quite possibly reinventing money! Find out more at www.dashpay.io, and hey, thanks for asking!  Grin
1528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 08, 2015, 04:53:31 AM
Is Dash withdrawing ok from Cryptsy? or is it frozen/delayed?

frozen/delayed

I guess that "dash is instant" or "dash has no delays" is rubbish when it operates on an exchange that obviously is having more than transaction malleability issues.  Roll Eyes
Did you seriously just post that? Credibility=Blown! That was a new low...
1529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 07, 2015, 07:10:55 PM
What is Dash "News" (Community Promo)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Zsl_3uAF8

https://twitter.com/TaoOfSatoshi/status/651836646736924673?s=09
1530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 07, 2015, 12:03:47 AM


sh****t  !  I never realised you had so many followers   Shocked

Better watch what I write in future   Tongue

Didn't I tell you before I was going to make you famous?  Tongue Grin
1531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 06, 2015, 11:31:29 PM

****************** Bitcoin's Vanishing Nodes ******************

Have a look at this.

https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/incentive/

This is Bitcoin's equivalent of an incentivised masternode policy - except for Bitcoin full nodes which do no more than serve up the blockchain. They offer no complimentary diversified protocol logic like a masternode does.

It basically amounts to a third party corporate body (1 guy and his pocket money actually) running a lottery for full nodes, with a prize of $10-$30 a week if your the lucky node. At the moment there are 177 Eligible nodes, that means you have a 1/177 = 0.5% chance of winning 0.08 BTC in a given week. Now they're getting support from 21 Inc - one of the high venture funding bitcoin startups. (No prizes for guessing why they're fundng it - the words "turkeys", "christmas" and "please save my $116M venture capital" spring to mind).

http://www.coindesk.com/21-inc-pledges-support-to-bitcoins-vanishing-nodes/

Don't get me wrong - I think it's good that somebody's concerned and trying ot do something about the 12% per year dwindling full node population, but the utter futility of this approach surely shows you what Bitcoin's up against while simultaneously demonstrating the elegance of fully incentivised, decentralised masternode network. (For a start, you don't have a 0.5% chance of getting the 'reward' each week, you have a 100% chance).

So much for decentralisation. Bitcoin's nodes are now on life support from a $116 million bunch of venture capitalists. Next it's going to be life support from payment channels cos the blocks are getting full.

My cynicism isn't because I want to attack bitcoin or to see it die - I want to see it succeed. But it unambigiously vindicates the priorities that Dash has made and for which it has taken flack from all quarters throughout its lifetime - including the bitcoin devs themselves. Maybe some need to start tending to their own backyard first.



Thanks for the material!

https://twitter.com/TaoOfSatoshi/status/651529491580325888?s=09
1532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 05, 2015, 08:02:45 PM
edit : thanks for your quote Tao...
No problem. It jumped right off the page at me!
1533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 05, 2015, 07:21:28 PM
Holy F !!

Bitcoin Exchange Gemini Approved for Launch in New York
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-exchange-gemini-new-york/

Quote
Gemini, the much-anticipated bitcoin exchange led by entrepreneurs and investors Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss, has received approval from the
New York State Department of Financial Services to begin serving US customers in 26 states as well as Washington, DC.

Quote
Gemini said it is now onboarding customers and will officially open for trading on Thursday, 8th October at 13:30 UTC. Transfers to and withdrawals from the exchange will be free,
though a charge of 25 basis points the value of every trade will be applied to both buyers and sellers.

No wonder 900 amount BTC buy-orders are starting to pop-up

Liked this quote:

"We’re a digital asset exchange, we happen to be doing bitcoin right now, but we have the ability to incorporate other digital assets," Winklevoss continued, adding:

"There will be digital assets that do things that bitcoin is unwilling or unable to do. It’s a total possibility we will be doing more assets in the future. What those assets are remains to be seen."

 Grin
1534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 05, 2015, 04:26:00 AM
Profile: Evan Duffield

http://www.bitcoinwednesday.com/dash-profile-evan-duffield/
1535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 04, 2015, 05:47:59 PM
Want to join Dash IRC but are not sure how to do it? From DashTalk, via @Buster:

"I set up a embeded IRC webchat to the freenode #dashpay channel to make it easier for people who do not know much about IRC. You can access the webchat at www.dashchat.co"

www.dashchat.co

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/650727373592227840    Thanks, Buster!

Cheers, Tao

1536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 04, 2015, 04:37:49 PM
The trolls are loving this moment, let them enjoy. It's a party for them when Dash loses significant value like this. Their shallow lives seem fulfilled, as sad as that is.

Remember, the focus here is long term. All of this current price action is just background noise that the sideshow clowns amplify as part of their show. Nothing has changed fundamentally, news is almost always positive, we are building the foundation for the future.

As I've mentioned before, most people I talk with outside of this toxic environment are bullish on Dash. How could they not be? A quality product backed by a solid community and dev team, with a business case for real-world use. Ignore the price swings, let the dogs have their day, and focus long term. The future is extremely bright. Now, back to your regularly scheduled clowning... Cool
1537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 03, 2015, 05:30:08 AM


https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/650178048772435968
1538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 03, 2015, 04:09:07 AM
Great article. Reads like an advertisement for Dash...

https://twitter.com/taoofsatoshi/status/650159394806726656
1539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 03, 2015, 03:46:23 AM
Does anyone know what's the actual story behind the Wisdom displaying Dash market only for certain countries? What reason do they have?

Just use Cryptowatch.

https://cryptowat.ch/poloniex/dashbtc
https://cryptowat.ch/cryptsy/dashbtc
https://cryptowat.ch/cryptsy/dashusd
This. Great website, timely updates. This is my chart site of choice now.
1540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW, Darksend and InstantX on: October 02, 2015, 09:06:06 PM
Multicoin wallet UberPay now supports Dash

Looks to be another solid wallet, providing another option for Android users.

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