You want an even better dumb option (in reference to your Serie A jibe)? Liverpool are 27/1 to qualify to the next stage. Take out $1700. Bet the rest on that. That would be severe punishment for everyone except yourself.
Damn! Even $10 can make a nice profit to have a night out LOL. Putting $100 there means you are off for a whole month (depends on the life style you have)! Share your next leg picks please. I need to at least put something while you're on a hot streak! May be KTChampions can share his slips with us and when we win we reward him with nice tip. His performance on the CL and EPL pool, especially CL pool is too good so I will trust his calls. Problem is bookies may not like it as they will consider it group betting then can ban all the accounts LOL. |
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Anyway, this forum is all about evidence, right? I have given plenty, Betnomi nothing. That's cool. The only evidence I'd like to see is screenshots of the full detailed betting history. Since I can't log in anymore, they'll have to show it to me. Will you do that Betnomi?
May be you can send them a PM telling the new finding of the bug which removed everything from your account. Tell them to response here. I don't want to bother them PMing again but I will wait for their response in the thread. I have subscribed to the notification so anything posted is notifying me on my email. |
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I am just thankful for the points, the Top 10 is going away from me lol
Top 10 for me like But I am still hopeful as the prize money will be for top 20 😉 We are in the same pot. 8 rounds ago i was first now i am 27th in the pool so this is painfully for me. I think there is no comeback for me in this pool this year. Hopefully i make some good results in next couple of rounds so i can at least try and get some rewards this year Damn Joca, I completely forgot that, I do remember seeing you in first spot actually, but I've been middle for most season and slowly breaking into Top 10 but now again finding it very difficult. It's really really hard to be consistent, especially when you know the odds and expert opinions have to favor the stronger team but FORM is so important too. 12 more rounds though so lots to fight for  12 more rounds means roughly 120 more matches. All you need is the consistency. When I do my picks I do not expect much but I expect the round does not end worse. 8 to 10 points that what I target. But thing does not work like you plan. Sometimes you get extremely lucky and knock a very good round or few. But when luck is bad then one or two bad round takes you down. Key is not to miss your pick in any round. Good thing which I noticed other day, only being in the top 20 is giving you something. @Joca97, 27 is not end of it. Still few good rounds can bring you in top 20. For me I just hope I do not do worse in any of the coming round. If I even can make it to top 10, I am happy. |
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I think that City's victory in regular time is far from a guaranteed outcome of the game. Leipzig have only lost once in their last 22 games (and that was Union Berlin, which, unlike City, was able to win away). I don't think the odds difference between 1.20 and 1.44 is big enough to take the risk of City drawing in regular time. In any case, thanks for the wishes! I have not yet decided what I will do next (especially looking at today's game Real - Barcelona)  Some wise words. As a gambler I am more emotional than calculative. Other day odd for City was 1.50 so for me additional $0.30 was a nice opportunity to make some extra bucks. May be these greed allows the bookmakers to rob me 😉 The only goal which was an own goal made the difference in Real vs Barcelona. Unlucky Real but it allowed the bookies to make some good money. What did you get? |
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Indeed, Liverpool has been sleeping for a while this season, it is no longer a competitor for the league title, but it can advance in the ranking ladder to get the opportunity to participate in the European CL. While Manchester United have also found their usual form this season by being in the top three on the board. I don't think they will let the fierce competitor Liverpool beat them, the result of a draw will be more like a win for Liverpool  Just made my picks for the next match day. I went for usual favourits for me this includes Man U over Liverpool even though we are playing in Anfield. But hopefully we at least draw against Utd to keep us in the race for the next CL. Still there are a lot of matches to play which is a big hope. I am just thankful for the points, the Top 10 is going away from me lol
Top 10 for me like  But I am still hopeful as the prize money will be for top 20 😉 |
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good evening everyone. Today I ran into a problem that made me ashamed of such a well-known casino as Steak.
I bet on table tennis, at the moment the score became 10-9 in favor of the one I bet on. I immediately understood that if the score becomes 10-10, then I will redeem the bet (with a score of 10-9, bets are closed in this casino)
the score became 10-10 and I immediately clicked on the redemption.
as a result, the site thought for 7 seconds, and while these 7 seconds went by, the score became already 10-11 and I was not allowed to redeem the bet. just because their website is lagging. support did not help me, they just unsubscribed
" I am sorry but there is nothing that we can do in these situations, when our odds provider rejects cashout attempt all bets are being settled per the final result as stated in the sportsbook rules."
I just want people to know that there may be bugs like this on this site and support won't support you.
It's Stake not Steak 😉 I assume you are talking about Cash out. And in Tennis, badminton, table tennis the point market moves very quick. If they suspend it then you can not cash out. When you clicked the cash out and the market is suspended you still can not cash out. And in live match placing a be takes few seconds delay, the same with cash out too. I do not think what you are complaining here. If you are an experience online gambler then it's should be a common thing you are seeing all the time. it was the lag of their site. Yes, I can and will refuse, because the situation is absurd. I have been playing in this casino for several years, I bet small amounts, but quite often, during this time I have filled myself with VIP, and in such a situation the casino simply refused to compensate for its lags. especially since I asked to just cancel the bet as it would have been logical, but in the end they just ignored it.
Instead of just blaming them, have you noticed that your internet connection was normal that it was not slow or on your browser something did not allow it to refresh it. There could be many technical issues from your side too. May I know how much the stake amount was and how much you were about to win? |
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Glitches are fine. Month long glitch though, supposedly fixed by this time so only affecting me? Bit suspicious. Bet history on the 9th November. Then the 14th. Following day, geoblocked. Asked for the bet history on this thread, zero answer. Like none of this strikes you as shady? https://imgur.io/a/xOG8CsCNot one person has even noted they accepted proof of address then banned the region. We're way past benefit of the doubt. Its understandable, you are angry. If I was in your situation then I would too. But we need to accept the reality. Besides, Betnomi has a long history on the forum. As per them they have paid many big wins too so I would like to give them benefit of the doubt. Let's wait for the next response from them on the matter as this issue might overlooked by them too. I am not in either side. But I would love to see the misunderstanding resolves and you get what you are asking for. |
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I think you forgot about something.
It resolves the mystery from my side. Thank you. And the bet history being 'fixed' was vouched for by 3 of the friends, yep. But their posts did not magically fix mine. Thanks for stopping by.
They are not friends in fact in this place no one is friend to each other. They are just forum members like us and shared their side of observation. Nothing wrong I can see but you have your points. Technical glitches are part of any online business and we all need to accept it. |
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Someone should setup an image host dedicated only to Bitcointalk, that converts all images to a working format.
You, TryNinja are two guys I see are capable to do that. OP, there are image converter sites online, free tools. You can convert webp, svg or any other format to png, jpeg etc. Use them. |
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The user purposefully took screenshots of an empty page to manipulate the situation and add credence to his baseless accusations.
Yes, screenshots can be manipulated, I agree but how would we handle it? @betnomi, just asking some curious questions.
Consider I do not have a regular income but I have bitcoin and holding it from long time. Was lucky to be one of the bitcoin whale. These days I do not need to do any work, business or anything. I live a lavish life.
I decided to deposit more than $50k in your casino. Played, won and made it to $200K. Now want to withdraw.
Ownership of a business: Invalid for me
Employment: Fuck it
Inheritance: I am self made, bitcoin made me rich
Investment: Buying those bitcoin was fun at that time and I was working in Sainsbury's as a floor cleaner. Who the fuck is going to remember that memory from back in 10 years ago and keeping the documents too.
Family wealth: No inheritance means nothing from family.
Are you saying you are good to take my $50k?
You are in bitcoin ecosystem but applying some rules that are created by the financial institution. It's a conflict zone you are doing your business.
BitcoinGirl.Club, This is a great question. We will take this opportunity to clarify our position on KYC and other user verification processes. We are not a traditional casino, but a crypto casino - The concept and principles behind crypto is something we strongly believe in. Although there are some regulatory and compliance requirements, we walk a fine line between complying with the laws and preserving users' privacy and anonymity as much as possible. The KYC process at Betnomi is in three stages. - Basic - Basic information
- Intermediate - Proof of identity and address
- Advance - Source of funds
The reason for these separate steps is to preserve users' privacy and not be unnecessarily invasive and intrusive into our user's privacy. In most cases, users are required to complete just basic KYC. For intermediate and advanced - this is subjective and a judgment call that our team rarely makes on an individual basis. If we detect suspicious or fraudulent activity based on its nature and extent, we request the appropriate level of KYC. If there is a legitimate win, you can be sure you will not be required to go through any such process. For example, we recently paid out 400k ETH win on Baccarat the withdrawal was processed without any KYC requirement. Several users have successfully withdrawn large amounts without KYC, but you can be sure we will enforce KYC and other fraud-preventative measures when we detect such cases. Thank you for your time to spend a lot of time to response it. This KYC thing is very difficult to understand for crypto users like us. What I understand if I play in your sportsbook and if you ask me to show proof of income then I will fail massively. May be you can add some additional information for your clients when they are about to deposit a large amount of money. Like once they enter a deposit amount over $5k then before showing the deposit address, give them a form to fill up. Let the form pop up with part of the questions to check: Would you like us to know your ownership of a business? Yes/No Would you like us to know your employment status: Yes/No Would you like us to know your inheritance? Yes/No Would you like us to know your investment? Yes/No Would you like us to know your family wealth? Yes/No Once they check everything "Yes" then allow them to deposit. It will help you to stay out of questions and the user knows exactly what troubles they will need to be. |
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Continuing my attempt to rob betnomi:  I was pretty lucky (although it was not luck but analysis) as I missed a lot of random games that looked like iron, but were in fact complete nonsense (mainly due to the fact that such is the stage of the season now). Should I continue? There are interesting games ahead, or simple picks like "City qualifies" with odds of 1.20 - looks very attractive to me as City annoys me so much that I'm willing to pay that money to see them eliminated at the 1/8 stage Congratulations man, you are not robbing only betnomi the bookmaker or any bookmaker you are with, you are also robbing the entire CL pool LOL. The difference from the 2nd position is 8.50 which is more than enough to keep you ahead even by accident you do not participate in a round. Do you know we are planning to ban you from a whole round? 😂 City home match seems too easy to win but you are considering City to qualify. If I was you then I would go for City to win, it's still a safe bet but if you want excitement and like to see City eliminates then why not enjoy betting on Leipzig to win. Even a $50 bet will make you a lot. If you lose then you are losing just $50. Whatever you do, good luck! |
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I have been following these accounts for quite some time and looking at the alt information I see that they are very similar in campaigning, moreover, the busd migration time also coincides.
I was just looking at your post history and found you had another alt hunting topic back in August. Other than hunting alts you are not trying to contribute in anything. Is there any specific reason? It's obvious you are not new to the system. Why don't you do that from your main account. Or I am wrong? good question mate , i am looking for merit by exposing scammers in bounty campaign . Hopefully you succeed but merit, rank up, all these things should be a by product of the things you do in the community. You really don't need to portrait a character of a merit hunter. Many people will not like it and some day they will start digging you and will give you unnecessary troubles why you will make finding scam accusations, finding alt accounts as your full time job here. There are many ways to earn merits. Share your knowledge, not everyone is expert in everything. You must have some specialty that you know better than anyone else. Learn bitcoin technology, seek questions on the technical boards, learn how to keep your wallet safe, share the methods of securing your bitcoin. Know the forum rules and when anyone seems confuse guide them and help them. Be friendly with everyone. Most of all spend time in the community. |
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I wondered if they thought we are referring to the aforementioned case, not realizing we are talking about a different one. Let me try to PM them again, this time with something clearer.
If they're online after I sent the PM and still not appearing here, I'll support the flag, but not because I believe one side is correct and sure which side cheated who, it's to persuade them to give a better explanation with concrete evidences against your case.
I also asked them in their ANN thread and we got an answer. They will unlock OP's account and allow them to withdraw funds from his casino, but his account will be banned after that. So, lesliegray try to withdraw your funds from Betnomi and inform us did you manage to do that. if you succeeded in withdrawing that amount, then great, log out of that casino and forget about him forever. is there any chance betnomi or someone who represents them will respond in this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440776.0 thread and thus end the drama going on there? I understand that anyone who loses money in a casino believes that they have the right to complain, and it is difficult to answer everyone. But otherwise, it would be desirable if Betnomi representatives participate more often in that section with relevant answers. even if they were baseless accusations they should not be ignored. Just my 2 sat's. Examplens, Thank you for notifying us. This user is really manipulating pricing which is against the rules of sports betting and we are confident that our risk management tools gave this case the right assessment. Thus, there is no question that he abused our trust. Our rules (T&C) are straightforward and simple, we will actively enforce them. However, we are unable to share the details of this case, other than those previously disclosed, as in the long term, it could jeopardize our risk management practices and other internal mechanisms and processes. For this reason, as a gesture of goodwill, the user can withdraw his funds, after which his account will be blocked. Good to see some progress, it does not matter they reply me or other member but what matter is the accusations are looked at and responded in a way that accusers are happy. I still have few questions that I left for them but I will reserve it for later, don't want to be an asshole right now. Hopefully betnomi will find some time someday and satisfy my curiosity. Can't login. "The user doesn't exist".
Edit: Made a withdrawal request. I will give further updates when everything is done.
Since you came to this far, I believe it's already resolved. Good work betnomi and congratulations to you too. |
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Either you didn't read what I said correctly or you are deliberately misrepresenting it. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and think that you didn't read what I said correctly. You can quote me if you still think you are right.
Why would I do that? See here is the problem. You leave half and keep half to yourself which is creating confusions perhaps conflicts. It looks like you have things you want to talk but you don't want to at the same time. You did the same with yahoo when you said you wanted to send second donation but you did not because of some dot dot. I did not read. You are quoted too. |
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I see a transaction to the given address, hopefully the refunded your deposit. In that case case close. P.S: The amount shows $3,705.97 though. if I am not wrong then your deposit was $4k to be exact. The amount deposited was 0.15913480 BTC, which was the amount requested, however a fee was deducted by the payment provider, as this was not sent through our automated payment system. We will get the rest over to him today. Edit: The additional is sent now, as well. Great job. I see the case close. Hi,
I'd like to proceed with a 3rd party arbitrator for the balance of the funds on the site. I'd suggest philipma1957, as he's shown an interest in this thread, is impartial and has status in this forum.
can we move forward with this? if so, how? Assuming philipma1957 is interested in being an arbitrator here.
thanks
jset21
Are you sure you want to do this? May be philipma1957 will give an address and you will send the btc that sent to you to his address. Betcoin.AG will also send equal amount of bitcoin (you claimed $8k) to make it the amount you are claiming. If he find you are fair then you take all but if Betcoin.AG is fair then they will get all. May be both of you can agree on to give a fees to philipma1957 for having a mediator. I need to grab my popcorn 😂 P.S: Before you agree I will suggest you to check every possible scenario from your side that no one actually requested to self exclude your account. We can not ignore the possibility of manipulation of data by Betcoin.AG too. It will be interesting how philipma1957 will verify it. |
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Yeah there's no proof if it's scam, but for me I'd choose to stay away.
May be the reason for choosing the name is to get traffic from the keyword Nakamoto. It's understandable and I do not see anything bad in it. If I find a nice name and think to use it in a way to make money, I can do that. Everyone one is free to do it. But since the name Nakamoto relates with the brand I would like to see something that will impress me and hook me. Not something already exists in the market and does not look even closer to the market standard. |
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As for the use of VPN, the TaC (point #11) of sherbet directly indicates that the use of VPN and similar services is a violation for trying to circumvent the access ban from a prohibited jurisdiction or with the intention of having more than one account, so most likely such users will be blocked.
Comment from the official representative: VPNs are 100% allowed, however, we don't officially support or endorse them.
Such a ban on the use of VPN can be found in almost any casino. But have you ever heard that someone couldn't get their winnings because of that ban? Well, as such, I don't think there will be a ban when using a VPN, but in case of a big win, you will have to go through KYC and there may be a problem if a person is in a prohibited region, of course this applies only to a small part of the players Other day I was asking questions about KYC and VPN to an established sportsbook on the forum, as per them for small amounts that we spend for fun, they don't need KYC but if this is large deposit and large withdrawal then they may ask for it no matter if you use VPN or your regular IP. However this large amount may depends on the casino can not afford to lose in the case of withdrawal. They will do everything in their power to deny the withdrawal LOL With any sportsbook when you plan to make big money, it's not your friend but go there, have fun, win little, lose little. You two are friends. After all casino and sportsbook are meant to be place to have fun. |
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Out of curiosity, I visited the "dating" site, and they ask for some info about you (Social engineering) and then probably link you to a profile of someone as a "beautiful woman" who will try to scam you afterward.
So let's seal that you have no chance for nomination in the next bitcointalk award Miss Bitcointalk category from me 🤣 These Beautiful women are pimps. @philipma1957, I can confirm I did not receive any such message. It's hard to know the motive but may be someone indeed wants you to check their hot girls LOL. God knows what are you doing these days online 🤣 |
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im willing to answer any questions openly in this thread to anyone who may have them, including betcoin.ag of course.
I see a transaction to the given address, hopefully the refunded your deposit. In that case case close. P.S: The amount shows $3,705.97 though. if I am not wrong then your deposit was $4k to be exact. |
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I am the player, i did not ask for any exclusion? why shuold i only receive my deposit back? do you have any proof that i requested an exclusion? I'm a profitable sports better with hundreds of thousands of winnings this year, why on earth would i ever ask for that?
you wanna shut me down? fine, but pay the full amount you owe - i did not exclude myself from anything.
Thanks
jset21
May be someone from the family did that if you are confident that you did not self excluded. Your account is not going to send an automated request to self exclude. The solution they are giving is to get return of your deposit. It's better to agree on it. I do not see any scam is happening here so having this thread in the scam accusation is pointless. This could be resolved on their ANN thread. |
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