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1541  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 10:47:48 AM
Every time we get one of these crypto-market 'rotations' the first thing I do is look to see if any of our gift coins are going anywhere.

BTG is not going anywhere.

Stellar is, if you claimed yours several months ago. I did.

I missed that one, and Bitcoin Unlimited. I've totally dropped the ball on these forks I think. B2X is out in the wild. No idea about it at all.
1542  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 10:36:26 AM
Every time we get one of these crypto-market 'rotations' the first thing I do is look to see if any of our gift coins are going anywhere.

BTG is not going anywhere.
1543  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 09:28:55 AM
let's predict things for 2018 Roll Eyes
one I saw was: 'Trump to tweet about btc in 2018' Sad
mine are not least: btc will reach a hundred k then crash to fifty, and will cause bmb to feign fretting about being 'poor again'


I believe that is sarcasm. We can all afford cats.

not meant to be as harsh as sarcasm. maybe gentle irony

also do you north americans not sleep?

I'm on medication. I'll sleep when I'm dead.
1544  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 09:18:42 AM
let's predict things for 2018 Roll Eyes
one I saw was: 'Trump to tweet about btc in 2018' Sad
mine are not least: btc will reach a hundred k then crash to fifty, and will cause bmb to feign fretting about being 'poor again'


I believe that is sarcasm. We can all afford cats.
1545  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 09:13:15 AM
DUDE, there you are WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?!?

Jesus, it has been mayhem out there

I sedated myself, had a dream we crashed to 11 dollars. There was no bounce Undecided
1546  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 09:09:22 AM
the fuck is a Cardano?

That's what the English have for breakfast. Tea and Cardanos. I saw it on the tv.
1547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Explanation for ripple price increase? on: December 30, 2017, 09:06:48 AM
It will dump like Crohn's Disease. Be careful out there.
1548  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 09:00:56 AM
yet

1549  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 08:52:55 AM
Ripple quite soft on the 6 hour chart. 

I expected when the bottom fell out of that thing we'd lift off. I'm confused and alarmed.
1550  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Explanation for ripple price increase? on: December 30, 2017, 08:49:57 AM
Whale traders. They call it 'rotation'.
1551  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 10:49:31 AM
Breaking: National suicide hotline staff doubled.

If I didn't know any better I'd swear someone ate their own wall at 15000.

But why?
1552  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 10:39:53 AM


They had a good run..
1553  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 08:07:18 AM
Ever since Twin Peaks ended this thread is the best show on. Good night Bitcoinland.
1554  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 07:40:36 AM
this Coinomi is a phone thing?

don't tell me people are keeping real money on phones...

It's an android wallet we trust exclusively for sweeping forks, afaik
1555  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 07:36:57 AM
Breaking: National suicide hotline staff doubled.

If I didn't know any better I'd swear someone ate their own wall at 15000.
1556  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 07:27:49 AM
I really think now is the time to just completely get out of Bitcoin.

Comedy gold.
1557  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 07:21:52 AM
I don't mean to split hairs, but is there any reason to trust a hw wallet less than Coinomi?
1558  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 07:18:39 AM
See now I'm confused. We blinked and it came back down. It's almost as though _nothing_ we do or say here has any impact on the market. Just puzzling.
1559  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 06:54:35 AM
The part in question is the STM32F205RET6 ARM processor which is easy enough to order up at the usual sources.

Unfortunately, counterfeit parts are epidemic in the components industry today, and the incentive to spin up a "special" one of these is...rather large

Can't you trust the usual places to source you clean parts? Where do SatoshiLabs order their parts?

Now you are starting to think.  THAT is a very good question.  One would hope that they have a secure delivery arrangement with the manufacturer...one would hope...their website is mute on the subject.

You guys had convinced me to get one until I read this post.

Is there any evidence to raise the minimum glimpse of suspicion? #doyouknowsomethingwedont?



I'd like to know how much damage one of these counterfeit parts can do? How nefarious can they possibly act in this context? Given the amount of dough other people have at stake, I suspect there's already been a lot of digging. I'm personally willing to risk being weirded by technology more than I'm prepared to have someone walk away with a paper wallet. But just barely.


It'd be big, specially for Trezor as a company; but I don't think it would be that big or even profitable in terms of money if you think about it. Being offline devices, the damage would be considerably mitigated by time alone. You'd (hopefully) get an email from Trezor an hour after the first few cases confirm a trend warning you to not plug and power your hw anywhere.

Going through the long con of modifying a chip design, going into production, distributing to retailers/waiting for the chips to be used by a company, and then sold and used; only to then choose a date when enough are in circulation to trigger the 0day, and only get as bounty the first random few wallets that come online that day... There are probably easier less involved ways to be a criminal.

They could try to simply sneak out a couple packets with key data every so often, and just acumulate them for the future; but that would get easily found out by people using them in secure networks.

That's exactly what I was thinking but in good words and infos. Thank you.
1560  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 06:48:55 AM
Ah. Sweden. Sounds lovely. Smiley
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