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1541  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Gary, tell us what is Ethereum? on: June 18, 2023, 05:29:58 PM
Ethereum Redefined: JPMorgan Proposes Unique Categorization:
"As the digital currency landscape continues to evolve, it has become evident that the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and other U.S. regulatory bodies are eager to redefine the government’s approach to regulating cryptocurrencies. However, despite the SEC’s lawsuits against Binance and Coinbase and calls for SEC restructuring from the Grand Old Party (GOP), a clear way forward still seems distant. Adding to the complexity gripping the blockchain industry, a team of JPMorgan strategists led by Nikolaos Panigirtzoglou has suggested that Congress place Ethereum (ETH) in a new “other category” instead of the rigid classifications proposed by the SEC for tokens like MATIC, SOL, ALGO, and others."
1542  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Pirated Windows builds with crypto stealer on: June 18, 2023, 05:25:41 PM
You can buy a Windows license key for $9.
~snip~

You can buy it even cheaper if you look at the Goods board on this forum, noting that you should be careful because there are a lot of scammers who are willing to do anything for a couple of $ profits. But the question arises as to why people even pay for Windows if we know that at least version 10 was free to upgrade, and almost fully functional even without a license.

People have to completely forget pirated software if they do not want to infect their computers, and this is especially true for those who have crypto wallets on those same computers. A possible savings of a few dollars can mean a lot more loss if you download some malware that can empty your wallet.
I already bought a serial number on aliexpress and it still works, windows was activated as a licensed version. I know that some windows asked for reactivation after buying cheap serial numbers, and there are a lot of reviews on aliexpress that can be written six months after the purchase.
1543  Bitcoin / Mining / Bitcoin Mining Hardware from Blockstream on: June 18, 2023, 05:17:22 PM
Mining will continue:
Bitcoin technology company Blockstream has announced that it plans to reveal its highly anticipated Application-Specific Integrated Circuit (ASIC) miner in the third quarter of 2024. This marks the culmination of years of engineering work for the company. Blockstream CEO and co-founder Adam Back made the announcement during the company's inaugural media briefing. In 2021, Blockstream acquired Bitcoin mining hardware maker Spondoolies.

Previously, Blockstream successfully raised $125 million to expand its mining operations, and the company now plans to secure further funding. Initially scheduled for a 2022 launch, the release of the new ASIC miner has been delayed, and Back now expects it to be available in the latter half of 2024. Back explained that there are two manufacturing approaches, with the first being a test run referred to as a "shuffle run," which is anticipated to take place in the third quarter of the following year.

1544  Local / Майнеры / Re: Майнинг здох? on: June 18, 2023, 04:25:49 PM
Могу ошибаться, но в основном такой подход в цивильных странах не работает - "по желанию левой пятки введем налог/повысим акциз", а вот простой запрет вполне реален (ну или его градации в виде признания ценной бумагой и т.д.).
а это ли не один хрен, только сбоку? вместо налога будешь покупать лицензию трейдера или еще какое-то назовем его условно "майнерское удостоверение" потом такой же налог со сделок/прибыли/потребленной электрички в коммерческих целях.
сопсно никто в мире не захочет отказаться от возможности пощипать жирок. только в цивильных странах это оформят покрасивше. одно дело мерзкий пират, а другое - благородный капер.

На мой взгляд разница существенна. В папуасиях налог "просто потому что так хочется + надо кабанчика подоить", а в цивилизованных странах запрет возникает из-за того, что либо идет покушение на то что покушаться нельзя (грубо говоря кто-то начинает нарушать законы о ценных бумагах и какие угодно любые другие под прикрытием "крипты" или других "инноваций) и это лечится запретом. Причем запрет тоже возникает не по желанию левой пятки главного папуаса а через суд (как и тест Хауи возник) чем многие мошенники вполне злоупотребляют судясь с властями годами (смешная ситуация которую в папуасиях представить сложно).
Кто в Иркутске платил налог с первого дня майнинга? Они закрыли 1000 адресов, а майнит неизвестно сколько.
Система коррупции давно работает и в майнинге. В моем городе есть майнинг отель без регистраций и в 24 году не собираются закрываться.
У mak013 блатная розетка, у меня хороший тариф в деревне, но из за такого профита не хочется работать.
1545  Local / Майнеры / Re: Донеси на майнера в РФ on: June 18, 2023, 04:16:13 PM
Нет, лимит у всех разный.
Чаще всего это 5-10 кВт, но те у кого есть связи, деньги и необходимость могут провести к дому больше, за деньги разумеется.
Что касается того, что все восторгались властями Казахстана и решении развивать майнинг, легализации и тд.
Нам на голову просто упало счастье, когда Китай типа запретил майнинг. Мы реально были большой махиной и
вышли бы на первое место в мире если бы не эти тупые рвачи.
Была куча инвесторов со всего мира которые были готовы вложить куча бабла на ремонт коммуникаций,
привезти кучу оболрудования, создать рабочие места, платить огромные деньги за этот свет и плюс налоги.
И впридачу страна была бы переполнена криптой, а по итогу нихуяшечки! ничего из вышеперечисленного
Можно один момент уточнить? Сначала начались проблемы с оборудованием и запредельное воровство электрички или всё-таки сначала начали "хотеть денег"? Я без стеба, мне действительно интересно, что было первопричиной провала.
и еще вопрос, если в курсе. в ремонт и обновление электрооборудования вообще вкладывались за время после ссср или только аварийные случаи восстанавливали?

На счет ремонта и обновления могу сказать что это если и происходило то только в крупных городах вроде Алматы и Астаны. Та же Караганда, где огромные ГЭС, ГРЭС все в плачевном состоянии по сей день.

Летом 21го года к нам начало приехать много иностранцев и спрос на точки подключения, дешевую ээ начал расти как Доги кони после твитов Маска.
Электроэнергии в стране очень много, подключались везде и много. Осенью того же года владельцы точек прожарили тему и просили с майнеров
профит шеир. На мощные машинки брали 10-30% на средние 30-50%. Дошло до абсурда, поЯвилось кучу серых майнеров, но многие пошли подавать документы чтобы получить лицензию и официальное разрешение на майнинг.
Затем перед Новым годом мне поступила информация что готовится коллапс для майнеров и их будут жестко душить сразу после Нового Года, но у нас случились "январские события" когда весь Казахстан был на грани политического переворота и интернет был отключен во всей стране.
А уже после всего этого в конце января случалась типа электроду катастрофа на границе Узбекистана и Казахстана и после этого появилось распоряжение отключать майнеров. И тут первыми пострадали те, кто подал документы на легализацию. Их сразу отрубили. Затем пошли рейды правоохранительных органов по выявлению серых майнеров. Начали рассматривать законы для майнеров с таким жестким налогообложением что майнинг становился в Кз уже не рентабельным. Все произошедшее вкупе повлияло на то, чтобы люди выходили из этого бизнеса.
Плюс у меня была инфа, что зимой 2021-2022 в Астану прилетел Скам Бэнкмен Фрид и просил 200-300 мВт у правительства. Он был готов инвестировать деньги в обновление инфраструктуры, постройку больниц и школ ради этого объема. Но насколько мне известно, его послушали и ничего не дали,
оставили эти мощности себе и распределили их между нашими манерами из числа олигархов и правительства.
Забирать у майнеров 30-50% абсурд, в России на такое никто не согласится. 300 мВт немного даже для совковой тец, в Грузии мощности больше у майнеров.
Куда сейчас тратятся все излишки электроэнергии?
1546  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How can i start bitcoin mining? on: June 17, 2023, 12:04:54 PM
It's unlikely that anyone will teach you because it's a competition. I can only advise you to study in more detail the very nature of Bitcoin and how mining works. It may be possible to find some videos but don't get your hopes up for practical advice.
The competition in BTC mining is to determine who is going to add the next block into the blockchain, not against the entry of new miners, the system is open source and permissionless, so as many miners can join without anybody's permission, you only become a strong competitor if you generate enough hashrate.
It is better to try, to start with a little, and then you will understand as you go.
Importantly what you need in order to mine is Asics and cheap electricity, if you start small you'll not make any profit, so rather than being a solo miner without enough hashrate, it's better you join a mining pool and contribute what you can, to get revenue on your contribution.
A large hashrate makes it more likely to find new blocks, and the arrival of new miners reduces the share of your pool in the total hashrate.
But we have seen cases of luck when solo pools with a small hashrate are mining blocks, so solo mining is not dead.
1547  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: El Salvador to develop mining farm Using Volcano Energy on: June 17, 2023, 11:41:39 AM
Technically its not the volcano but the magma flow that goes to it. Its done generally around inactive volcanos for obvious reasons.

The magma boils the water underground, so all you need is drill a hole and it spits out steam that is used to turn a turbine, then you capture that vapor let it condense and send it down to the underground again.

Its not "like" geothermal, it literally is geothermal. It just happens that volcanos tend to have magma flows to them.

I think Americans have a place with geysers; Yellowstone park?, that's the same energy just being wasted. Underground water is being boiled until the pressure makes it "erupt" until inside pressure falls, the water returns underground and the process repeat.
wow!!! This is nice. For this those who are not conversant with the volcano energy will know it from here. Really I have not heard Volcano Energy but I have only heard about dustbin energy but I have not seen it. According to scientist, the waste that has been dump in a particular environment can be converted to electricity. Even river current which also known as dam. Now is volcano. All these natural resources are there to produce light but yet the governments will not invest on them but instead fuel. Why?

The thing that you're referring as "dustbin energy" is actually energy generated with the garbage that's thrown as waste. The energy actually comes from the solid part of that waste when it's burned in waste-to-energy plants. When the wastes are burned a stream is produced in boiler which is then used to power a generator based turbine. You can also call the thing as biomass-generated energy and it powers the generators which in turn supply energy.

The energy generated from Volcanos is often called Geothermal energy and that comes from the heat of the Earth's crust. This type of energy often works when heat from volcanos is captured with the help of running water which in turn converts into steam, that steam is then used to spin the turbines and the electricity is generated.

The Geo-thermal energy is renewable and it could be very helpful source of energy for the miners who have access to it. The type of energy is not for all miners because it's abundant in those areas of the world where volcanos exist. Well, I think El Salvador's Government has taken a very nice step for the Bitcoin miners. However, I believe that the cost of mining won't reduce with such type of energy source because it could cost the government huge sums of money to create such power-plants that could capture the geothermal energy.  
For good efficiency Geothermal power plant requires hot water with a temperature above 100 degrees. This requires drilling the earth for several kilometers. The pumps will consume a lot of electricity, so this is not the easiest way to generate electricity and depends on the location. And the temperature of the water on the surface of the earth in such sources is 30-40 degrees Celsius.
1548  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Free electricity, just the equipment left. on: June 17, 2023, 11:33:33 AM
I live in a federal school environment, and as a result, we have free-constant electrical supply, which I was expecting to put to good use by mining bitcoin with.
Having good electricity is just one of the hurdles to mining. With Free electricity you will be able to achieve a lot, you have already skipped one hurdle, but there are other factors you need to consider and prepare for because there are always obstacles. School environments can have bad boys, your equipment can be stolen if you do not try to make sure that they are safe after purchasing them. Do not tell people that you are mining Bitcoins, do everything in secret.
The problem is even more than OP pictured, if you are getting money through mining and you are in the midst of boys, they will want to know, if they find out what you are running 24/7 they will hate and this will even make the dream of you leaving the premises happens faster.

You will be busted in no time, I was not even talking about this before, I was focusing on the electricity bill, and Bananington, there is nothing like free electricity, he is prepared to steal the electricity that someone is paying for, I am curious if OP knows the type of grid meter that's been used in the school.

If it's the old school meter it's better, because there is no measurement on the electricity consumption, only bills monthly, but if it's the new digital like the meter that people use today in different countries there will be problems fast, because they are loading money on the meter using the meter recharge card, once the loaded amount that was supposed to be managed within a month or two finished in 2 weeks, there must be some explanation.

The problem and unrest will start from there.
Modern electronic meters with SIM cards are not so common in many countries.
These electronic meters are put on new houses and commercial real estate and the owner pays for it.
If the old electricity meter has an expiration date, then it will not be changed at the expense of the owner. And the energy company doesn't want to pay for it.
1549  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Pirated Windows builds with crypto stealer on: June 17, 2023, 11:23:23 AM
Doctor Web has discovered a malicious clipper program in a number of unofficial Windows 10 builds that cybercriminals have been distributing via a torrent tracker.
Use official software with money you pay for its license key is safe.

If you don't want to pay money to buy a license key, you will use cracked software with many backdoors that can infect your devices.
If you want safety and don't want to face with risk of malware, trojans from cracked softwares, you have to consider Linux operation system. It is free to download.

Linux: https://linuxmint.com/
How to Install Tails OS on USB flash drive for Wallet Purpose
You can buy a Windows license key for $9. If the link does not open, then look at
https://aliexpress.com/
https://aliexpress.ru/wholesale?SearchText=windows+10+pro+key&g=y&page=1
I downloaded the original Windows image from the official site using MediaCreationTool22H2.
Such Windows is dangerous for software wallets, but I would not spare $ 9 even if I had a hardware wallet.
1550  Other / Beginners & Help / Pirated Windows builds with crypto stealer on: June 16, 2023, 01:19:04 PM
"Doctor Web identifies pirated Windows builds with crypto stealer that penetrates EFI partition
Doctor Web has discovered a malicious clipper program in a number of unofficial Windows 10 builds that cybercriminals have been distributing via a torrent tracker. Dubbed Trojan.Clipper.231, this trojan app substitutes crypto wallet addresses in the clipboard with addresses provided by attackers. As of this moment, malicious actors have managed to steal cryptocurrency in an amount equivalent to about $19,000 US.

At the end of May 2023, a customer contacted Doctor Web with their suspicion that their Windows 10 computer was infected. The analysis our specialists carried out confirmed the presence of trojan applications in the system. These were Trojan.Clipper.231 stealer malware as well as the Trojan.MulDrop22.7578 dropper and Trojan.Inject4.57873 injector, which were used to launch the clipper. Doctor Web’s virus laboratory successfully localized all these threats and neutralized them."
https://news.drweb.com/show/?lng=en&i=14712
1551  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How can we be sure that our private keys have been generated safely? on: June 16, 2023, 01:17:36 PM
Hello,

I understood that Trustwallet is closed source, so it's not great. Atomic wallet has just been hacked. Ledger offers a recovery service that raises questions.

How can we be sure that our private keys have been generated securely?

Thank you
It is impossible to make the necessary knowledge and checks in a security company.
Specialists connect wallets to their servers to check the data sent and the entropy of the seed phrase.
An open source application is easier to hack than a closed source application.
1552  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How free crypto wallet devs make money ? on: June 16, 2023, 01:09:58 PM
With this Atomic wallet hack, I have a lot of questions. For example, how do free wallet developers make money? It's probably a naive question, but in the end, safety also depends on the reliability of the team, and they're not going to work for free.
The main income comes from affiliate rewards and advertising.
There are many opportunities to offer various exchanges, services and even hardware wallets for added security. Or a team invests money in a project to steal the wallet of a large company
1553  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Free electricity, just the equipment left. on: June 16, 2023, 12:52:04 PM
I live in a federal school environment, and as a result, we have free-constant electrical supply, which I was expecting to put to good use by mining bitcoin with.

Here's the question(s): Is there a website where I can buy used mining equipment at a low cost? And, if I intend to purchase all of the essential equipment using this technique, what is the estimated cost?


It would also be helpful if you could provide me with a list of the items I will require for mining. Thank you.



What is a "federal school environment" you also mentioned your dad's house, so I don't understand that.  Putting that aside I'd say:

- It's probably illegal to use free electricity (paid for the by the government / tax payers) to mine bitcoin

- Even if it's not specifically illegally, once they discover that you're mining bitcoin (especially if you get more than just one mining machine) they're likely going to make you stop and possibly charge you with theft (doesn't have to be a law specifically about bitcoin, you can't open up a business with free electricity)

- It's going to be loud, very loud.  Especially if you have more than one mining machine.   The noise is going to bother you and anyone else around the machines, you don't even have to be in the same room.  The noise comes from the fans on the front and back of the ASIC mining machines.

-  You've also got to get rid of the heat produced by the mining machine(s) so you can't just put them in your closet (unless you rig up some airduct somehow and have somewhere to get rid of that air) and even at that it's still going to be hot, especially if you have more than one mining machine.

-  The electrically wiring in your house / school (or wherever) is going to have to be large enough (the gauge of the wire, or wire size) otherwise the amps the machines draw are going to burn up the wiring (more so if you have more than one mining machine).   The breakers are also going to turn off if you pull too many amps (or more than the breaker is built for, example 20 AMPS).

- You're going to have to mine on a bitcoin mining pool so here are two mining calculators (a simple one and a more advanced one):

Simple: https://btc.com/tools/mini-mining-calculator?lang=en

example: hashrate of 14 TH/s (terahash) which is about what an Antminer s9 does (since electricity is free for your you don't need a new machine, and these are only about $100 on eBay nowadays) and you make about 0.000035 BTC every 24 hours (or about $0.09 dollars (or 90 cents)).

Advanced (although you don't really need this because it's for calculating electricity and the price of the mining machine (new machine usually): https://btc.com/tools/mining-calculator
The heat that is generated from ASICs and noise can be hidden if water cooling is used. To connect video cards in a private house no more than 10 kilowatts per hour, I replaced all the wires with new ones from the power company poles to the meter and from the meter to mining farms. I found damaged sections of wires that could lead to a fire under load.
1554  Local / Майнеры / Re: Майнинг здох? on: June 16, 2023, 12:42:29 PM
В Иркутске с начала года выявили свыше тысячи новых адресов «серого» майнинга
Работники «Иркутскэнергосбыта» с начала 2023 года выявили почти тысячу новых адресов «серого» майнинга криптовалют. Об этом компания сообщила в пресс-релизе. Всего на карте «серого» майнинга зафиксировано свыше пяти тысяч адресов подпольного майнинга. В числе лидеров остается областной центр. В нем обнаружено около тысячи адресов с признаками «серой» добычи криптовалют.
https://ru.beincrypto.com/irkutske-vyyavili-tysyachi-majninga/

Что майнеры копают с начало 23 года?
В 24 году обещают точно закон о майнинге Smiley
1555  Local / Майнеры / Re: Донеси на майнера в РФ on: June 16, 2023, 12:38:51 PM
ко мне и многим другим пришли по наводке. 10квт потребления всех не проверишь, но есть "добрые" люди, которые
подсказывают куда надо сотрудникам наведаться.
Это очень прибыльно было для них. Оборудование дорогое и как правило на большую сумму.
Глаз у них наметанный, высчитывают общую стоимость и просят 10%, по итогу на 3-5% соглашаются
"добрые" люди имеют свой интерес, полагаю?
а вообще классика. у соседа корова сдохла. мелочь, а приятно. я не знаю как в мире с этим обстоит, но во всех без исключения республиках бывшего ссср процветает такая зависть.
по факту, как я понял,  остался только "официальный" майнинг с околонулевой доходностью и майнинг "уважаемых людей"?
У них с налогами и ценой за свет неразбериха по таблицам, но если платить за свет и налоги по хорошим коэффициентам, то с прибылью проблем нет.
С их тарифом и дешёвыми рабочими можно майнить меньше 15 тысяч долларов за биткоин, и даже после халвинга выжить, но возможно на старье будет трудно.
а если не платить, то вообще нарядно получится Smiley хотя про "если не платить" это везде так.
то, что я видел у них в решениях по майнингу выглядело как установить тариф на уровне, чтобы сохранить минимальную прибыльность. но, как видим, и на один тариф можно взглянуть с разных сторон.
ЗЫ. помнится были восторги от продвинутости казахских властей. по факту вышло те же яйца, только в профиль. может даже хуже, чем в россии.
Это выгодно когда платить только за свет недорого.

У нас даже по частным домам ходили в прошлом году.
У друга 50 квт, и он в подвале эфир майнил до последнего, плюс Чиа небольшая ферма.
Ему позвонили в дверь и хотели зайти все осмотреть, он тупо не открыл. Все отключил и перевез, спрятал хорошо.
Чаще всего наводчики в доле с теми кто приходит в гости.
Но сейчас когда майнеров не осталась все успокоились и забыли. Полгода побегали, дань собрали и пропали.
В Казахстане в частном доме лимит бесконечный? 36000 киловатт в месяц в частном доме как-то много? не? Grin
Ко мне через месяц придут, если столько подать.

Нет, лимит у всех разный.
Чаще всего это 5-10 кВт, но те у кого есть связи, деньги и необходимость могут провести к дому больше, за деньги разумеется.
Что касается того, что все восторгались властями Казахстана и решении развивать майнинг, легализации и тд.
Нам на голову просто упало счастье, когда Китай типа запретил майнинг. Мы реально были большой махиной и
вышли бы на первое место в мире если бы не эти тупые рвачи.
Была куча инвесторов со всего мира которые были готовы вложить куча бабла на ремонт коммуникаций,
привезти кучу оболрудования, создать рабочие места, платить огромные деньги за этот свет и плюс налоги.
И впридачу страна была бы переполнена криптой, а по итогу нихуяшечки! ничего из вышеперечисленного
В России можно 25-50 подключить, у меня знакомый сделал 25 КВт без взяток, потому что у него отопление электрическое.
Потом энергетики находят майнинг и требуют доплатить по другому тарифу или будет уголовное дело.
1556  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin - how low will we go in 2023? on: June 15, 2023, 01:34:11 PM
I bought the other day and we have seen yet another crash since then it feels like there is so much bad news and FUD at the moment.

I feel like having a break as I am starting to feel we could go close to the lows of last year, not sure if we will go that low but could go close so thinking of waiting until we see at least another 10% drop to buy more.

How is everyone else feeling?
Better think about how much the price of bitcoin can rise after the halving. Bitcoin mining cost after halving should be in the range of $20,000-$30,000.

The cost of mining bitcoin from large miners
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455754.msg62374983#msg62374983
It is difficult to buy bitcoin when its price drops, but the $18-20k zone will probably be the last one in this decline.
1557  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interested in investing in Bitcoin my childhood friend after losing business on: June 15, 2023, 01:28:12 PM
For several days now my friend has been asking me for some advice. Telling me that he wants to invest some of his money, telling me where to invest it. My friend works in a private company and he has saved some money from there. With that money they went into business in a four person partnership, initially he made some profit in the business then he suffered some financial loss. My friend knows that I am involved with Bitcoin. He got some ideas about Bitcoin from me. So he wants to invest money in Bitcoin. I didn't tell him anything about the risk of investing. Since he wants to invest, should I advise him to invest?
Tell him a little about the risk management system. Buying bitcoin is probably less risky when buying other cryptocurrencies, but the crypto market loves to take money from newcomers. If he invests all his money in bitcoin, then he too may lose the investment or lose bitcoins on the exchange. Advise him a good secure wallet.
1558  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Risk management on: June 15, 2023, 01:18:26 PM
If you want to reduce risks, then you need to not participate in risky trading transactions on the crypto exchange and understand the consequences of risky transactions.
But in less risky trades, there is little profit and a lot of time spent on trading. Classic traders do not use more than 3% of capital for risky trading, and those who use more than 5% for this are already trading incorrectly.
1559  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the most significant trading sacrifice you believe you have made? on: June 15, 2023, 01:04:18 PM
If you have been full-time into trading for one to three years, what has been the greatest sacrifice you've made to become a successful trader? And did it pay off?

Someone I know who a seven-figure trader is now made the sacrifice of moving into a shared apartment with a friend just to save money. Another person, who had previously started a logistics company, sold off his trucks and used the money for trading. Another person had to pay to be mentored. He did this because the mentor said people do not appreciate free things, and if he were not making the sacrifice of paying out of pocket, he probably would not be serious and would take it for granted. These people cited in here went on to become successful traders. It paid off.
If the logistics company has ceased to generate income, then such a serious step can still be understood, but according to statistics, transport companies make good profits and drivers receive good salaries even in the most crisis periods, because it is difficult to work without transportation.
1560  Local / Майнеры / Re: Воровство на майнинг пулах on: June 15, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
У пулов сложные времена сейчас, если они готовы платить через час, а награды за блоки майнеров получить через неделю.
Некса не даст им много профита, однако на miningpoolstats вули сейчас на 2 месте. Из солидарности к ним не пойду, можно подождать неделю, сливать монеты невыгодно.
а у них та же логика, что у тебя. можно подождать неделю. им платить надо в-принципе всего неделю из своих, дальше пойдут доходить первые награды. ну может с учетом роста мощности чуть доплачивать. не думаю, что у них на это нет денег.
они вообще по многим позициям в топы вылезли, агрессивное продвижение и акции приносят плоды.
Они в русском сообществе майнеров сильно обгадились.
У других монет блоки зреют быстрее. Комиссии с пула они держат на уровне других пулов, поэтому идти к ним после обмана не стоит.
Нексу майнить на многих ГПУ или с убытками или с окупаемостью выше 7 лет Smiley
я думаю не только в русском. и не только они. и ничего, в топах сидят. мне кажется это просто последний случай, поэтому он наиболее на слуху. пройдет время и про них забудут. или перебьют повестку новым скандалом. а вули будет продолжать рубить бабло. ну может чуть меньше из-за принципиальных, не забывших и лично пострадавших.
Согласен что забудут. По памяти трудно вспомнить кто попался в 17 и 18 годах на воровстве, а тогда это было очень профитно.
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